conspiracies instead. if green wins, this unwelcome debate among republicans could be entering the halls of the capitol. erin? >> thank you very much and thanks very much as always to all of you for being here with me. "ac 360" with anderson starts now. good evening. joe biden and kahlcamillkamala appeared together after the campaign announced biden picked her as his running mate and that for the first time a black woman, also a south asian american woman would be on amajor party presidential ticket and the significance of the event can't be over stated in part because the political history being made but also, because this was the first time that american voters in particular democrats got to see what kind of message and energy these two former opponents for the nomination would bring. biden began the event and spent a significant amount of time hitting the president on his record and the coronavirus and environment, he spoke about the history that harris' election would mean for millions.

>> as a child of immigrants, she knows personally how immigrant families enrich our country as well as the challenges what it means to grow up black and indian american in the united states of america. her story is america's story. different from mine and many particulars, but also, not so different in the ed -- essentials. she's worked hard. she's never backed down from a challenge and she has earned each and every accolades and achievements she has gained, many of them often in the face of obstacles that others put in her way but never quit. and this morning, all across the nation, little girls woke up, especially little black and brown girls who so often feel overlooked and under valued in their communities but today, today just maybe they're seeing

themselves for the first time in a new way as the stuff of president and vice presidents. >> senator harris also spoke to the history of being made with her nomination but much of her time was devoted to attacking president trump and his administration's poor management of the country promising fund mental change. >> everything we care about, our economy, our health, our children, the kind of country we live in, it's all on the line. we're reeling from the worst public health crisis in a century. the president's mismanagement of the pandemic has plunged us into the worst economic crisis since the great depression. and we're experiencing a moral reckoning with racism and systemic injustice that has brought a new collision of

conscience to the streets of our country demanding change. america is crying out for leadership. yet, we have a president who cares more about himself than the people who elected him. a president who is making every challenge we face even more difficult to solve, but here is the good news, we don't have to accept the failed government of donald trump and mike pence. in just 83 days, we have a chance to choose a better future for our country. >> well, it was a preview of what americans can expect of her as a campaigner and mike pence can expect of her as a debater. >> this virus has impacted almost every country, but there's a reason it has hit

america worse than any other advanced nation. it's because of trump's failure to take it seriously from the start. his refusal to get testing up and running. his flip-flopping on social distancing and wearing masks. his delusional belief that he knows better than the expects. all of that is reason and the reason that an american dies of covid-19 every 80 seconds. it why countless businesses have had to shut their doors for good. it's why there is complete chaos over when and how to reopen our schools. mothers and fathers are confused and uncertain and angry about child care and the safety of their kids at school, whether

they'll be in danger if they go or fall behind if they don't. trump is also the reason millions of americans are now unemployed. he inherited the longest economic expansion in history from barack obama and joe biden. and then like everything else he inherited, he ran it straight into the ground. >> president trump has taken several shots at kamala harris and took note towards the end of his speech. >> it's going to be gratifying to see the strong enthusiastic reaction to senator harris as our next vice president. you know, it comes from people all over the country. it already occurring. all over the country, all views, all backgrounds. events, of course, we are

predictable, some of them. it comes from all over except, of course, from donald trump's white house and his allies. we all knew it was coming. you could have set your watches to it. donald trump is already started his attacks calling kamala, nasty, whining about how she's quote mean to his appointees. it's no surprise because whining is what donald trump does best, better than any president in american history. is anyone surprised donald trump has a problem with a strong woman or strong women across the board? >> well, shortly after that event i spoke with the chairwoman karen bass a former contender for the vice presidential slot herself. she was excited for the nomination of her fellow californian and what you heard joe biden mention from president trump. congress woman bass, seeing vice president biden and senator

harris together today for the first time, having been on the short list yourself what your impressions were. >> well, i thought it was very exciting. i think it an exciting moment in our history. when she ran for the presidency, that was historic, and so now that she's going to be our next v.p. because i am positive about that, i am enjoying this moment in history. >> what do you think, i mean, for as a historical moment, what it means for the country and also, for the dynamics of this campaign? >> well, you know, after three and a half years of such a divisive president, the president that is clearly has just made racist remarks on a regular basis to see our ticket, to see the unity of vice president biden and senator harris on that stage together to me it was electric and i think it going to excite people where

80 plus days away and they can't go by fast enough. i just believe it's going to really energize folks in the way they need to be and we have to turn out and vote early, because there are so many shenanigans going on on the other side to suppress our vote so i hope this will add to the momentum. >> do you worry about -- i mean, i know you seem optimistic they are going to win but people are optimistic in 2016, as well, up until they weren't. i'm wonders just in terms of the kind of campaign the this now is, it going to be unlike anything we've seen before. do you think it plays to the strength of a biden, harris ticket? >> well, you know, that's the difficulty is campaigning where you can't get out and be with people and shake hands and knock on doors, but i know that they will be just like i will be zooming day and night because there is so much at stake. part of the complacency before

was we had just come off of eight years of an incredible presidency of normalcy in our country. i think after three and a half years of what we've been through, after 160,000 dead americans and i know not everybody had to die, i just think the circumstances are so profoundly different people will be motivated in a way they haven't before. i think that's why they're spending so much time trying to suppress the vote. >> clearly one of the reasons vice president biden chose kamala harris, she's run a number of campaigns in san francisco, california and obviously, the run for president, as well. she has been in the arena and taken parts in debates and knows generally what this -- what is ahead. we've already seen sort of the line of attack that the white house seems to be developing, the president called senator harris nasty, which is a term he obviously uses for strong women

who stand up to him and i think he said she was just about the most liberal person in the u.s. senate and today said they are socialist essentially. i'm wondering what you make of the attacks that will go after senator harris and her ability to deal with them. >> well, first of all, she won't have a problem dealing with them at all. i think that they don't know what to do. they don't know what their message is so they are throwing spaghetti on a wall. i believe trump will resurrect the ghost and everybody will be a socialist and he'll be openly racist. his messages to the suburbs, it's very clear what he's saying. he's saying black people are coming. that's what the message is. >> cory booker is going to be in charge of it? >> exactly. and cory booker is going to be aware cory booker might move in next to you, you should be so

honored. this is an old playbook. the responsibility on us is to communicate number one, to expose that this is very old. this has been done before but also to communicate our message and our message of hope, of transformation, of normalcy, of empathy with an administration that, i mean, the first job of the commander in chief is to protect his people. this commander in chief really doesn't care about us. otherwise we wouldn't have 160,000 dead americans. >> as someone that worked closely with senator harris in san francisco and washington on police reform, what do you think she brings to some of the det e defining issues of this race, particularly racial justice? >> well, first of all, she brings her life experience. that's for sure. but she also brings her history of fighting for racial justice in whatever position that she's been in.

when i was in sacramento in the legislature serving as speaker, she was d.a. in san francisco and we worked on criminal justice reform together. we were both concerned about young people in the foster care system because we know that they fall between the cracks and wind up on the pathway to incarceration. we worked on legislation related to that and juvenile justice and so i think that she understands the issues. she has devoted her life to fighting for the same reforms and transformations that i believe are required in our country right now. >> you yourself have obviously had really extraordinary career. i got to ask, i mean, if joe biden and kamala harris win in november, california governor dev devin newsom can appoint to harris' senate seat. is that a job you'd be interested in? >> outside of my singular focus on these next 80 days, i want to keep all options available. >> karen bass, appreciate your

time, thank you. >> thank you. as we mentioned at the top of the program, president trump and his allies wasted in time attacking kamala harris. let's talk about the president's attacks on harris and how they have evolved over the last 24 hours. >> reporter: not really in the way you thought they would. we talked to trump advisors yesterday after the first briefing moments after they announced that it was going to be kamala harris and said they believed he needed to have time to work on his message, what he would do and line of attack. we didn't really see that change by the time he came out to the briefing today. he went after senator harris on things like fracking. he seemed to continue to be reading from a prepared list but didn't have this line of attack some of his aids and allies were hoping he would have formed by now 24 hours in. and the question is he going to be able to define her in a way that's effective before the election, and that's not only something he clearly is struggling with the vice presidential candidate but struggled with joe biden for the last several months finding a

way to define him in a way that's as effective with his supporters and voters like it was with hillary clinton in 2016. >> congress managed to go after president trump today in her speech in a very kind of conversational way that was very strong in what she said about him, very critical but done in a way that was almost disarming, i think, for those if somebody believed president trump when he said yesterday that she's nasty, it certainly didn't come off as nasty, it came off as sounding cutting. >> well, and he even seemed to kind of struggle to respond to her especially about how he handled coronavirus. he said he only watched a little bit and didn't watch the full speech today but a reporter in the room summed up for the president her attacks saying he did not take covid-19 seriously at the onset of the pandemic, that he did not trust the experts. his eyebrows went up when the

reporter repeated that comment she made and he did not push back on either of those and instead, talked about how many people have been tested in the u.s. so far. he talked about ventilator production but in any other way he didn't really substantively address those. he's been calling her nasty. that's often an attack he uses on women. one thing he's not addressed and advisors haven't addressed are donations he made and his daughter ivanka trump made to kamala harris' campaigns in the past. that is not something they really answered questions about so far. >> yeah, find it hard to believe he did not watch the entire thing but for another day. kaitlan collins, thank you. >> just ahead, more on how democrats believe the event went today and video of the call telling harris she was his pick and a believer in a bizarre conspiracy theory involving president trump who is -- this theory has a record of racist and antis-semitic troebs may

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the nominee a short while before his campaign informed the world. >> all right. >> hi, hi, hi, hi, sorry to keep you. >> that's all right. you ready to go to work? >> oh my god. i'm so ready to go to work. >> first of all, is the answer yes? >> the answer is absolutely yes, joe, and i'm ready to work. i'm ready to do this with you, for you. i'm just deeply honored and i'm very excited. >> i'm joined by democratic strategists and commentator and howard dean, chairman and vermont governor. what was your initial reaction when you saw that today? >> i don't know how anybody can hear that and just not tear up. to be myself, just thinking about being like a little black girl, having political hopes and dreams hence the career path we

chose and getting a call to be on a vice presidential ticket, we can't imagine how overwhelmed she felt. i felt pride and joy hearing it. so many of us, i keep talking about how senator harris is a possibility model. it matters that we have models and reflections of black women doing amazing big things and so i just am so proud of her and i'm readily thankful that the campaign decided to share that with us because it is a really huge moment. >> governor, obviously, i'm sure a lot of democrats would have like to see a large campaign given the limitations of the pandemic. i'm wondering how you think this went and jones i talked to after harris stopped speaking was talking about how there is an intimacy to this kind of campaigning through the television screen and also without an audience that allows for sort of a more conversati conversational style that we certainly saw from kamala

harris. >> yeah, i think that's exactly right. you know, the most gripping part of that for me was the dead silent pause that kamala harris gave. she was shocked. even though she knew she was a good possibility, she was shocked. you just get asked to be the vice president of the united states. it was a warm moment you could feel good about because she was genuinely surprised and that is an advantage. there are a lot of disadvantages to having a campaign this way. one of the great advantages for somebody as genuine as joe biden, you get to see him and what americans will really like, there isn't a genuine ounce of anything in donald trump. biden is the exact opposite and i think harris is going to be a really good addition to the ticket. >> in terms of what you saw from senator harris during her speech day, her talk, one of the things she brought up is a new collision of conscience. do you think that's a preview of something we'll be hearing more from her about?

sorry, iesha. >> that the introduction of a new messaging line and i think it really brilliant. we talked so much about the obama collision and that's become a buzz work for diversity, right? for white people feeling hope and supporting the first black president. this idea of a collision of conscience, i really think that people are going to glam on to because keep in mind biden started his campaign as like the anti racist, right? donald trump is a biggot and a lot of things and he started on the backdrop of charlottesville. what we saw with white supremacists marching is despicable and the vast majority of americans don't agree with that ideology and behavior so he's continuing that thread and so when senator harris said today they are forming this collision of conscious, they are appealing to the better angels as americans that are, you know, doesn't matter what you believe or where you live, certainly

this bigotry and racism is something they are as a ticket symbolizing how they look and the appeal. i'm going to stomp out but i think that is really the under pining of this campaign and it's the out growth of the obama collision. at that time, president obama was a little tempid about race but now faced with such a viral racist who is proud of his bigotry, i see this campaign kind of smacking that back saying no, no, no, we have a conscience and we'll be the anti racist. >> governor, i'm wondering how you thought this kind of rollout today went. vice president biden also brought out the fact senator harris should challenge him if she disagrees she wants hers to be the last voice he hears before making a decision, the last person in the room. >> this is the advantage. i think kamala harris was the safe choice and i knew in my heart joe would pick her. joe is a creature of the senate.

clearly, if you're in the senate that long you have a great respect for senators. this is a great match. there is genuine respect for people. but a lot of it is just you respect somebody who is in the similar body you're in and i just think the chemomiistry is very, very good. this is, you know, i think exactly right, this is a kind of chemistry that's good for the country. we're looking forward and trump is really catering to the worst in people, their fears, their anger, their terror, and biden and harris are now saying no, there's hope and we're going to be the example of how great the united states can be. >> there is a disconnect in this kind of a campaign. it not something you can go and volunteer. you know, i guess you can go and volunteer and make phone calls and stuff but it's not so far it's not the knocking on the

doors, all the traditional things we're used to in a campaign. i mean, does that play to senator harris' strengths? how do you see this campaign kind of playing out? >> i have to say that one of the things that had been missing at least, you know, for people that i talked to from the campaign trail generally over the course of the last year was a real gravitational pull towards optimism and hope and ideas of who we could be as opposed to the muck that we're currently in and we've been in this real depressed state and i think that what they did today is the two of them and their energy and i want to call out that senator harris talked about her relationship with beau biden and that to me was overwhelming and beautiful because we got a personal connection in sentiment mentality that gave us a sense of connection and hope. and that to me is what will drive people to the polls. that will drive people to engage in the digital ways we have to engage in the wake of covid.

we won't knock on doors, we'll call people and text people but to me it's the inspiration of the emotion that we saw today, the connextcteconnectedness, co humanity and fight against bigotry that will bring us together and i think we feel good. we haven't felt good in a long time and that feeling good is what is really going to mobilize people. >> governor, what do you think this campaign looks like? i know we're almost out of time but what do you thing? >> always a referendum on the president. the president is not doing well at all and just as she said, he's selling fear and biden and harris are selling hope. that's always going to win. it's what did it for bill clinton and barack obama and i thinkist will do it for joe biden and camillkamala harris. president trump today compared the pandemic to the flu and heart disease. we'll have more on what he said. he said people are being forced to stay home not because of health but because of politics. a former cdc director and dr.

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insist that all is well. as long as you don't live in a state led by democrats. >> we're doing better than almost everyone with the economy and i think we're, you know, we face a head wind because democrats perhaps for political reasons don't want to open up their states and that's having a huge toll. that's taking a huge toll on people within those states. when you look at north carolina, you have a man doesn't want to open it up. you look at michigan, you look at some states, i mean, they just want to keep these people in their houses in their prisons. they call them prisons. and i think a lot of it is for political reasons because they want to look as bad as possible on november 3rd but i don't think it's going to matter because we're doing so well in so many ways. >> just factually, his theory is that democratic governors want to keep people in prisons in

their homes and not send their kids to school because it's going to damage him politically by making all those parents furious and upset and feel like they are in prison and not able to educate their children and that's somehow going to help democrats at the polls to have a lot of angry people who have kids who want to go to school. i want to bring in former cdc director and chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. the idea that some communities are taking preventive measures because of politics, i mean, does that make any sense to you? it seems like there is plenty of good reasons to be taking presentipresen ti -- preventive measures. >> there is only one enemy, that's the virus. what we've seen over the past few days is a neuro radiologist, someone with no public health experience who has advocated for herd immunity advising the president of the united states. this is a man without a plan. or more specifically, a plan for herd immunity and you know what

herd immunity means? herd immunity means 1 million dead americans. that's what it would take to get to herd immunity. that's not a plan. that's a catastrophe. >> sweden, which is a country that did try to go for herd immunity had a much higher death toll than the other countries on their borders. didn't have much better economic picture and still didn't get wide spread herd immunity. >> absolutely. the fact is we all do want to get our kids back to school, but guess what? we've got some hard choices to make. you can either leave your bars open or you can open your schools and keep them open but you probably can't do both. any community can open schools but only a community that does two things can keep them open, first, control covid so it not spreading. school is not a bubble and second, adapt in the schools. understand it's going to be hard. there are kids and staff,

teachers who have underlying conditions. they're at risk and we need to protect them. and the idea that some states are doing this for one reason or another, you know, there's a very simple way of looking at it. how widely is covid spreading? right now, the northeast is doing a good job of controlling covid and therefore more likely to be able to restart schools in the fall. >> sanjay, the president claimed ever again today the u.s. is doing significantly better than europe, which is not true and while overall cases in the u.s. are down, we had more than 1,000 deaths again yesterday and the national positivity average has not gone down. explain why that is significant. >> well, you know, with regard to how the united states is do k versus europe, we can show you this graph to give you an idea, we've gone from being, having seven times roughly as many new infections per day as europe down to, you know, 5.5 times as many new infections per day as

the european union. so yeah, it's gotten a little better, you know, i guess in that regard but still far worse than how they are doing in the european union. the numbers continue to grow, anderson. that's what we're seeing. the death rates usually as you know are lagged behind after people have been diagnosed with this infection so the death rate that we're seeing now sort of reflects something four or five weeks ago perhaps. it really going to be a question where does the trend go over the next several days? does it continue a downward slope that is hopeful, what we want or do we continue this roller coaster ride we've been seeing? >> the president announced his administration is ready to put 175 million masks and cdc teams to help schools meet safety standards. the idea of there being enough cdc teams to go to the schools in america just seems on the face of it highly i'm probabl i.

i remember when contact tracing was being discussed, i believe the head of the cdc was saying we'll send cdc teams to help cities with contact tracing, you know, there's not enough people at the cdc to do that. >> schools are in a tough position. they do want to educate kids. we all want our kids to get a good education. it's really important, but there is probably, anderson, one thing that keeps getting lost in this discussi discussion, which is in so many ways, we're all in this together. forb for better and for worse. if disease is spreading in young adults, particularly people who are essential workers and have to go to work who get the infection there or in kids, it is not going to stay in that group. it a virus. it spreads widely in society and ultimately it will hit more vulnerable people and the vun people are not a small group but a third of all adults and

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tonight a part of a bizarre conspiracy group. margry taylor green won the primary in georgia's 14th district running against a consecutive. she has a track record of racist and anti ss-semitic comments, s embrace as conspiracy theory that traffics troebs and aloejs that satan worshipping child

molesters is pulling the deep springs in hollywood, media and everything around the world. >> q is a patriot. he is someone that is very much loves his country and he's on the same page as us. according to him, many in our government are actively worshipping satan. or they call molock. is it true the child ped fill ya in the elites in the washington d.c., is that what we're going to see come out? is it true, is the type of corruption we're going to see come out, is it going to be satan worship? >> some of the gop worked to stop her victory including steve scalise that maxed out the donation limit for her rival but most were silent about the win and a party official tried to deflect. president trump who today praised green as strong on everything and a future republican star.

beq they believe president trump is working to break up the child molesters and surfaced from the dark corners of the internet and began with cryptic messages from an anonymous person in a chat room. many of the earliest claims by this anonymous person or group or country, could be russia or iran or anybody have proven completely wrong but nevertheless, the conspiracy theory continues. it's impervious to it. it was just a pizza paralor and he's in prison. their claims are as nonsensical and slanderous as bogus. qanon made their way into a trump rally. you see the sign, we're q, the secret service doesn't ask them to leave and the white house welcomed a supporter and the president has repeatedly

retweeted qanon followers messages. she kicked the media out of her victory party but you caught up with green a short time ago. how did that happen and what did she have to say? >> anderson, following members of the news media getting kicked out of the victory party, i reached to the press secretary to do an interview. i did not expect to hear back and didn't hear back so we expected to travel here to rome, georgia 70 moo 0 miles northwes atlanta. i drove by her headquarters, i parked my car and it was margry green. her window was rolled up and asked to roll her window down. i had her mask on. i told her who i was. she did not look happy but i can tell you she was polite and core and she was. she said i'm not talking about that. i want to talk about the kind of business person i am. people don't talk about that, how successful i am and indeed, her and her husband are in the construction business and

successful. she's said she's not a racist and her friends know it. i asked her what's your position on qanon and what they stand for. she said i do not want to do an interview, i snapped a picture of her encounter. she drove off. she had a chance to denounce qanon and she did not do that. i talked with the executive editor of the paper here called the rome news tribune and he told me it wfwas unusual his reporter got kicked out and he's been here for many years. we saw the victory speech because it was put on facebook by margry green. she said something very profane and anti female about the speaker of the house. >> i just want to say to nancy pelosi she's a hypocrite. she's an anti american and we're going to kick her out of congres congress. >> reporter: margry green had a chance to hold up an olive

branch during that speech, she didn't. >> this is reliable republican district. she's won the primary. how good a chance does she have of winning the general election? >> reporter: so this district was created in 2010 after the census. it been held by a republican tom gravers. he's retiring this year. in 2018. he received 77% of the vote. this is a very red district and we anticipate that margry green will be the next congresswoman from this district. >> gary tuck pchmatuchman, than much. >> she investigated qanon for an issue. fascinating article. i encourage everyone to read it. fascinating. adrian, this group is really fascinating to me. early claims by these conspiracy theorists, they have been proven wrong over and over and over again. early on they were claiming robert mueller was secretly investigating this sex traffickers and satan

worshippers and that his team was actually secretly going to indict the democratic leaders and others for a global child sex trafficking ring and president trump was secretly working with mueller's team, all of which sounds ludicrous and yet, obviously proven wrong. that's not what mueller's team is doing and yet this conspiracy theory is impervious to fact checking. >> facts do not matter to these conspiracy theorists. it one of the more mind melting aspects of the qanon universe. you can present with evidence and demonstrate how predictions have gone wrong and they don't seem to care. it just, again and again that q is bigger than anything that they can be presented with to the country. >> the idea that all these people are following some person who could be some internet troll, could be, you know, someone in kim jong-un's regime or anybody who is just putting out ridiculously cryptic things and they're just sort of, if i just put out a cryptic message

now, you could connect dots and that's what people are doing, you know, and showing up at pizza parlors with, you know, heavy weaponry trying to liberate children, and, you know, i guess some of them are coming from a good place, but it's just and i guess some of them are coming from a good place. but it's just insane to me. >> this is one of the things that surprised me in the course of my reporting. i was curious, who is this person or who are these people running this account. the more i talked to true believers, they don't care who q is, it's this blind faith that keeps them drawn to the conspiracy theory. >> i get -- they reach out to me because i'm roped into this bizarre conspiracy theory. after the pizza parlor thing it seemed to tamp down a bit. the whole jeffrey epstein arrest, with that sick guy, there is now -- they've now

roped that in, floating around on the internet, a fake flight log that has 100 or so people from hollywood actors to allegedly i was on this jeffrey epstein flight to his island. which obviously i've never been on. i'm inundated by people who believe i was on this flight. and there's no evidence of it, there's no photos, there's nothing other than this fake, phony flight list. >> it's sort of like the granddaddy of all conspiracy theories that eats other conspiracy theories as it goes. if you go looking for any conspiracy theory on the internet, you can find a connection to q in some regard. >> you haven't said you're not a pedophile or you weren't on the flight, therefore, why don't all these people come out and say -- declare their innocence, which is ridiculous that people are completely innocent have to come out and declare innocence for

some insane conspiracy theory, but they take that as a sign of -- well, then they're guilty. if you do declare your innocence and talk to them and try to just rationally discuss it with them, they don't believe you anyway. >> trying to reason with a conspiracy theorist will not get you anywhere. as you've experienced. >> at the end of the day, for a lot of them, this is about -- for a lot of the people that are promoting this, it's about money. alex jones was promoting this, he's selling god knows what all over the place. there's merchandising involved in a lot of this. and people are making money off it. >> you can find q merchandise on etcy, there are people who develop these huge youtube foalings as the interpreters of q because it's so complicated and you see people rushing to

fill the space to profit off of this. >> i discovered according to this theory, my mom was in a child satanic ring of traffickers, which would come as a great surprise to her obviously. do you expect qanon to get larger? it is this perfect organism where no rational thought matters. nothing makes any sense, and yes, of course, there are sex traffickers and children are abused and that's a horrible thing, but all these people are not actually doing anything about that, a very real world problem. they have created this entire fantasy. >> right, it will be interesting if marjorie taylor green gets to congress and believes in q, is she going to make fighting child abuse her number one result. those are the questions we have to ask people who ernestly

believe in this. what are they doing to solve real problems. >> have they raised money for kids coming out of the foster care system? have they raised money for groups that raise money for people on the street. i don't think they have. i'm not sure some of these people really believe it, it's just they like it's sub versive and it's a theory -- like a string theory that allows you to make sense of things which you have no control over. >> when i went out to find the people who believed it, i sort of expected to find more people who didn't, and i was surprised by how many genuinely really did. and to your question about q's staying power. i think this is how trumpism survives even trump. if biden ends up winning in november, q's not going anywhere and this is how the protrump movement and all it represents

carries on. >> i've engaged with some of these people occasionally, they seem normal, they have families, i look at their instagram page and they seem like a hardworking decent person. you have found that that really do believe this? when i try to rationally discuss it with them, some of them have been rational and said, okay, that makes sense. it seems like no one is asking for proof, like this flight manifest thing, it involves tom hanks and i don't know who else is allegedly on this plane. >> they borrow from the language of journalism to say, we're just doing our own research. we're just investigating, they're doing so without actually carrying about what's true. >> your article is fascinating. it's definitive and it's just -- it's a fascinating thing. thank you very much. >> don't miss full circle our digital news show that gives us a chance to dig into several

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good evening, chris cuomo is off this evening, a big day for democrats who got to see their presidential ticket live if not in person. sharing the same stage a day after biden called harris, making her not only the first black woman but the first woman of south asian descent on a party ticket. biden spoke of her nomination at length.