tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 12, 2020 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT
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good evening, chris cuomo is off this evening, a big day for democrats who got to see their presidential ticket live if not in person. sharing the same stage a day after biden called harris, making her not only the first black woman but the first woman of south asian descent on a party ticket. biden spoke of her nomination at length. he talked about why he thinks
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harris is the right partner for his vision after president trump. >> we're at one of those inflexion points, you've heard me say that before in our history. a life changing election for this nation. and the choice -- the choice we make this november is going to decide the future of america for a very very long time. and i had a great choice. great opportunities. i had a great choice, but i have no doubt that i picked the right person to join me as the next vice president of the united states of america. and that's senator kamala harris. >> for her part, senator harris spent a significant amount of time hammering at president trump's record, in particular, his failures combating the coronavirus pandemic. >> there's a reason it has hit america worse than any other advanced nation.
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it's because of trump's failure to take it seriously from the start. his refusal to get testing up and running. his flip-flopping on social distancing and wearing masks. his delusional belief that he knows better than the experts. all of that is reason -- and the reason that an american dies of covid-19 every 80 seconds. >> president trump has already attacked harris calling her nasty and the meanest. biden said the attacks were proof that the president has a problem with strong women. joining me now is someone who knows joe biden well, valerie jarrett. when the perfect plan crumbles and the venture begins. thanks for being with us. some i have heard today described this moment of the obama/biden coalition passing the torch to the biden/harris
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coalition. i wonder what you make of their official launch of the campaign? >> what a terrific day it was. it just felt so wonderful to see the two of them walk out in lock step. to hear from both vice president biden and senator harris, the optimism i feel about the future of our country knowing that it could be in their very capable competent hands. listening to them speak honestly and directly, and it was so touching the way that senator harris talked about working with beau biden when he was the attorney general of delaware and she was the attorney general of california. fighting for all of those folks losing their homes as a result of actions taken by the banks. i was looking at vice president biden's face, while she was speaking, you could feel the tenderness, and i think the american people are hungry for that again. goodness, competence. i think that we are in for a very exciting next few months, and i look forward to january
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20th and seeing the two of them sworn in. >> you saw up close how joe biden was as vice president to president obama. i'm wondering what you think the biden/harris partnership will be like. vice president biden talked about wanting -- just as he wanted with president obama to be the last person in the room when the decision was made, he said he wants that of kamala harris. >> nobody knows better than vice president biden what it takes to be a good vice president. he served for eight years, he knows how much president obama relied on his council, his advice, his taking over responsibilities for big pieces 6 business from the recovery act to bringing back our troops to ending sexual assault on college compasses. just a wide array of responsibilities vice president biden had. he has said he selected senator harris because owe knows that he will get that same wise council from her. and he trusts her.
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and she's earned that trust and i look forward to the two of them taking that on the road so that the american people can see what i know up close having worked with them both for so long. >> you said that one of joe biden's strong traits as vice president is that he was willing to tell president obama when he disagreed with him. it's one thing to be able to do that when you're the vice president to the president, as president, do you think he will want to hear that from senator harris? he says he would want to hear it. >> absolutely. and look, that's the way he was when he was in the white house, he wanted to hear from his staff and the cabinet, i think he has a very open mind, he's curious, he believes he'll make more informed decisions with her advice and council. he wants her to push him. i watched him push president obama and president obama welcomed that. anderson, because he knew he would be smarter and make it would push his thinking. when you're making decisions that affect millions of lives, you want to get it as right as
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possible. having that open mind being intellectually curious, being fact based, focusing on science. i think that's the recipe our country is hungry for. particularly as we've gone through these treacherous last several months seeing one misstep after the other by the trump administration that has had real consequences -- all of their families that have been affected and the destruction of our economy. and the divisions we've seen, the racial strife. we need leaders that can bring us together. i am confident that those two will be able to do that in our country. >> do you worry about the days ahead -- i think -- i don't know, 85 plus days or so, about this kind of campaigning? i mean, it's not -- it's obviously unlike anything we've seen in our lifetimes because of social distancing, things like
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that. it's -- if people want to volunteer, normally they can get involved, people want to be involved in campaigns, it's -- i am sure campaigns want to be involved. it's a different kind of involvement, how do you see this playing out. >> the campaign is going to have to be creative, unfortunately, i know many of the young superstars and not so young superstars working on the campaign, and they will get creative, they're going to use social media and technology as a strength and advantage to get our message out. i will tell you what i do worry about, the fact that i know that we're going to see a lot of horrendous language directed primarily at senator harris, whether it's sexist or racist. you know a group of women sent a letter last week challenging the media to say, ask yourself the question, would you describe a man in the same way you're describing the nominee? and we put the letter out ahead of the selection because we were already beginning to see signs
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of discrimination and racist and sexist troeps and we wanted to call it out and put a marker down. later tonight there will be a letter by over 200 women leaders from around the country of all ages. supporting senator harris' selection wholeheartedly saying vote for her, but we also are going to say, we're going to check people who come at her on anything other than substance. she is more than willing. in fact, looking forward to a debate on the substance. do not come at her with what we see as a traditional way of attacking women, stripping them down. calling them names like mean and nasty, we know the intention is to diminish them. all we want is an even playing field. that's what we're going to demand on her behalf. >> it's fascinating that president trump continues to use the word nasty in relationship to strong women. >> yes, it is quite old school, old fashioned and outdated and irritating to women. it's irritating when he says
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what suburban housewives are going to do. i think they can make up their own mind about what they're going to do. i don't think they're worried about black people moving next door to them, i think they're worried about whether they can send their children back to school safely. whether they're worried about their family coming down with covid, they've been getting mixed messages from the government and governors are forced to go on their own and pay common senexpensive amounts for equipment that should be provided on the federal level. there's so much that people who are living in the suburbs are worrying about. what president trump brought up was intended again to create a racial divide, it was intended to set a message that was not at all subtle. we're going to see the same thing along gender lines, and i'm here to say there is going to be an enormous push back on all of that. >> you used the term suburban housewives. as if it wasn't obvious enough. cory booker, a black man is
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going to be in charge of it. >> exactly. exactly. it's not subtle any more, i think part of what he's trying to do is to appeal to a shrinking base. and i don't think that that's going to work, i'm also worried about the effect it's having on our country. all the more reason why we need the leadership of vice president biden and senator harris. >> valerie jarrett, i appreciate your time, thank you very much. >> thanks, anderson, have a great night. i want to bring in someone who knows senator harris very well, beth foster hale. thank you for being with us, i'm sorry for the loss of your husband. when you saw senator harris speaking today as vice presidential candidate, what would that have meant to tyrone and what did it mean to you? >> anderson, first, thank you so much for having me on the show tonight. it's an honor to be here, and it's an honor to share part of tyro tyrone's story. i think it's sort of indescribable what it would have
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money the to tyrone. tyrone deeply believed in senator harris and her leadership. and he would have given anything to be a part of this moment and see her elevated to this position, which we all know she would be an incredible vice president. >> what was it about her that -- what did tyrone see in her. he went to work for her as a freshman senator? >> yeah. absolutely. tyrone was coming off the loss on the clinton campaign. he worked for secretary clinton and had the opportunity to start in senator harris' office in january of 2017. and he -- you know, tyrone was this relentless optimist and he believed that senator harris was someone that we needed in this era, she was someone that could take the fight to trump. and tyrone believed deeply in representation. as a black man, he really
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believed that nothing in this country can change until the people in power look like the people that they represent. and so getting the opportunity to work for a black woman, especially in this moment was a lifelong dream of his. tyrone was the son of a jamaican immigrant much like senator harris. getting to work with someone that had his share of life experience and brought that to the policies in the work she did, was an amazing experience nor tyrone. >> i love seeing your wedding photos, by the way, they're so beautiful. senator harris has spoken about tyrone's legacy, she described it, for tyrone, nothing was too small to do or too big to take on. he did this work tirelessly. he never lost faith in our ability to do good for the people in this country. >> yeah, i mean -- hearing those words. they make me a little teary.
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that was tyrone to a t. you know, whether it was sort of the dark days of the trump administration or when he was fighting his own battle with cancer, he always believed that tomorrow was going to be better. and he instilled that belief in everyone around him. sometimes to the point of annoyance, but it was just this wonderful quality he had. >> you both saw a side of senator harris that most americans don't get to, especially in tough times. who -- how would you describe her when the cameras aren't on? >> yeah, absolutely. you know, tyrone a few months after he went to work for senator harris, his colon cancer came back. he had been in remission and it came back. i vividly remember when he told senator harris about this.
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her mother passed away from colon cancer, so she knew this journey. and this fight that tyrone was going to have to face. and she -- you know, she found so many ways to pick him up during his cancer battle. she would tell him how handsome he looked even when he lost his hair and his suits were baggy. she would call him to the point where tyrone said, she checked in on him more than some members of his family. and she just -- she found a way to treat him with so much compassion and love. but also held him to a high standard, which tyrone wanted and appreciated. he knew that this was his life's work. and he didn't want her to let up on him or go easy on him. and, you know, if i may, there's a story i want to share. i don't talk about it very often. it's a little difficult for me to talk about, but it's about
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the night that tyrone died. and, we -- tyrone's death was relatively sudden although we had a few hours to kind of prepare. he was hospitalized at memorial sloan-kettering hospital in new york city. and so we let friends and family know the end was near, and word reached senator harris. she dropped everything in the middle of a congressional work period and flew up to new york city to be with us. and she unobtrusively came into the hospital room. she held tyrone's hand. she told funny stories about him. and she said good-bye. and she hugged me just as everything in my entire world was falling apart. and she looked deep in my eyes and told me she would have my
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back forever. and it is a moment i will never forget for as long as i live. it's not an easy thing to go through and experience like that, it's not something i would wish on my worst enemy, senator harris volunteered to be there, and she volunteered to share that moment with us, for someone she hadn't known that long. that's the compassion that she has. >> it's also a testament to your husband and the loyalty he engendered in others. >> i know you set up a scholarship fund in tyrone's name to help others, more black americans get into politics. how can more people find out information about it? >> if you google the tyrone gayle scholar's program, you'll find out information, or go to gaylenation.com and it is a fantastic program, it's changing the lives of black students. >> that's g-a-y-l-e.
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>> yes, yes. >> thank you for sharing some of tyrone with us tonight. i'm sorry for your loss. >> thank you. thank you so much for the opportunity. coming up, the diversity of the democratic party versus president trump's rhetoric on race. that discussion with dr. cornell west. we'll delve into the latest on the coronavirus.
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we mentioned at the top of the program, democrats were celebrating the diversity of their party. donald trump tweeted -- the suburban housewife will be voting for me. they want safety and are thrilled i ended the long rung program where low income housing would invade their neighborhood. biden would reinstall it with cory booker in charge. he tagged maria bartiromo.
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joe biden mentioned that his event today took place three years after charlottesville. >> remember what it felt like to see those neo-nadsdyes and those klansmen coming out of fields carried lighted torches, faces contorted, bulging veins, pouring into the streets of an historic american city. spewing the same bile we heard in hitler's germany. in that moment i knew i couldn't stand by and let donald trump -- a man who said there were very fine people on both sides. "very fine people on both sides." no president of the united states of america has ever said anything like that. >> my next guest was in charlottesville three years ago, joining me was cornell west.
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dr. west, great to see you. i want to ask you about the event today with biden and kamala harris. i have to talk to you about this tweet, trump talking about the suburban housewives and invasion of low income housing orchestrated by cory booker. that's not even a dog whistle, that's just blatant. >> yeah, trump is just being the gangster that he always is. he's desperate, he's not used to losing. he's been winning all his life by means of impunity, cold heartedness and mean spiritedness. i think nor the first time now, with biden and sister harris, that you actually have a team that might be able to win. and i hope we can push them across the winner's line because america. democracy is about to go under. the empire is in deep deep decay. i salute brother biden for his
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choice, really, because i think it's probably the only way he can win. you have 65% of white brothers who voted for trump and 53% of white sisters. you're going to have to have black folk, brown folk, asian folk, you're going to have indigenous people pushing a fascist out of the white house. at the same time, the real criteria of what was going on today was set by curtis mayfield with that song "move on up." he was talking about the people moving up from slavery, jim crow, jane crow. i'm from dilapidated housing, up from massive unemployment. and then you had our dear sister kamala, who got that special
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a/k/a stamp of brilliance, eloquence, charisma, and even much more than brother biden, i think he understands that, but they're going to work that out in their own way. the fundamental question, curtis mayfield was talking about moving on up from the vantage point of the black masses, not just the black middle classes. he wants to know, are they going to allow for black face in a high place once again or are they going to be able to deliver wrestling with poverty, wrestling with pentagon militarism, with wall street greed, with escalating wage stag nation and so forth. those are the deep courses of martin king of ella baker. that's the real challenge of our dear sister kamala. >> you've been critical of harris in the past, i think at one point you called her a centrist candidate that acts progressive. do you think those who criticized her prosecutorial
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record, maybe her record as attorney general will be able to see past it? obviously, right now the choices are biden/harris or trump/pence. >> right, i think right now, we have to be part of an anti-fascist coalition of conscious. our dear sister used martin luther king's language. we have to make sure trump leaves the white house one way or another. either by election or if he loses and he won't leave, then some of us will have to go and escort the brother. you know what i mean? it's time to go, you're done, you've damaged. when biden and harris get in there, if they still tied to wall street, militarism, they still tied to no public quality education. if they're tied to the same old neo-liberal elites we're going to have another slow disaster
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than a quick catastrophe. with trump you have a quick catastrophe, he has to go. i want trump people to know, i'm a radical, my dear sister harris is not a radical. she's a centrist and a moderate. i love the sister, but at the same time, i recognize that when it comes to serious class struggle that are going on, the class war of the bosses against workers, she's not always been on the side of the workers, neither has biden. neither has biden. >> it's interesting -- >> biden is linked to the major mass incarceration regime in the modern world. he helped create that, you know what i mean? we have to tell the truth about even those we vote for. that's why i don't endorse them, i vote for them. i try to stay true to curtis mayfield's music. he's talking about moving on up. he's talking about decency, courage, generosity, he's not
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just talking about winning the next election. and it's in our musicians and artists that they set the standards, when they play curtis. i said, oooh they're messing with a genius from chicago now. they're pressing with the great black musical tradition now. i think at this moment question have to push for those two, even though i love my green party folk and my movement folk, people's party we're going to be wrestling with. in the end, i don't think the democratic party is going to be strong enough to follow through on things the way others are talking about. >> it is -- i mean, there was something about seeing her speak today. when you think about the history of the democratic party and how the democratic party has depended on black americans as its backbone. maybe taken for granted, and particularly black women.
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and to -- i think for -- who have not gotten their due in the civil rights movement, and today. >> absolutely. in fact, the black freedom movement has been the levining in the democratic loaf, the loaf could not expand without the black movement, our freedom fighters have always said we fight first for those on the chocolate side of town and then it spills over and touches the soul of everybody. democratic party did that from the '30s thereafter. in that regard, the best of the american tradition has been the best of the black freedom struggle, and yet we can't settle just for symbol, the symbolic blow against white supremacy. the symbolic blow against male supremacy. magg enough sent. let's see the substance. by your fruits, you shall know them. after we push trump out then
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we're going to have to put such tremendous pressure on biden, tremendous biden on sister harris, because they're going to fall right back into their centrist ways again, friendly with wall street, letting them get away with their greed. the militarism, with military budgets that they themselves have voted for over and over again. they have voted for trump's military budgets. wait a minute, where's the coalition of conscience here, you know what i mean? the same is true, anderson in terms of the issues we struggle with with the palestinian thing. how can you be part of coalition of conscience and not be concerned of any occupation. whether it be palestine or elsewhere. some of whom are in favor of the palestinians. some of whom are tied to trump. how are you going to be against
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trump here and tied with the trump like figure there. how do you do that in such a way that you never allow for any type of anti-jewish sentiment, based on jewish values, justice shall you pursue. that's what the best of the great jewish prophets have told us, that's always the coalition of conscience, that's going to be a challenge to biden and harris, because at the moment they tend to be so tied to the deeply conservative lobbies. i don't want to take seriously the humanity of palestinian brothers and sisters. >> before we go, you mentioned curtis mayfield. i'm a big nina simone fan. if you had to pick a song -- >> old mississippi got -- we won't say it on television. but it -- >> i was listening to abada woman that she sings it's a live performance, and it's incredible. >> i'm going to listen to that
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tonight with my daughter. how's brother wyatt doing? >> he's doing well, he's listening to nina simone with me, i'm trying to teach him early. cornell west, always a pleasure. >> stay strong. a new study on face masks, those that do and don't work. and the latest progress. ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio (vo) because we know you want to get back to going your speed... ...steering life at 10 and 2.
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cases in the last 11 days. still, far too high. >> we should not settle for having 50,000 new cases per day. >> any cases anywhere, really keep risk pretty high. all across the united states. >> reporter: cases averaging 1,000 a day for 16 straight days. florida and georgia hitting new records for daily deaths tuesday. those states always lead the country in cases per capita over the last seven days. north dakota has 20% more cases this week. data from the health department in louisiana, another state where daily deaths are climbing show some of the risks associated with reopening the economy. 835 cases traced back to bars, restaurants or casinos. >> we are now going to be living with covid for a long time. because of the sluggish response
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in the united states. >> there is new information about the toll covid-19 is taking on health care workers. a database developed by kaiser health news showing more than 900 have reportedly died from the virus. and amid often conflicting messages on masks. new guidance from the association of american medical colleges. >> urging people to wear face coverings in indoor public settings. minimizing any gaps. cloth masks should have at least two layers of fabric, preably three. dozens of covid cases in schools in georgia, mississippi. affecting plans everywhere. some 400 teachers refusing to return to in person instruction. >> i'm a little disappointed in that, but i'm also concerned for the safety of my classmates and myself.
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concerns about community spread also threatening college sports. with the big 10, and the mid american conferences all postponing the fall season. even as the big 12 plans to play. >> what was true in the spring is still true today, that the root to reopening sports, schools and the economy lies in dramatically reducing rates of infection in the community. >> just to drive home what a mess some of these community that is reopened schools are facing, at least three georgia schools have been forced to temporarily close due to covid cases. they are now going to be doing hybrid learning with students alternating days on campus. >> thanks for the report. >> we heard about the new guidance from a top medical group. at least two lawyers tight fitting, some masks are far more effective than others. which ones should we be wearing. which are best to stay away
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from. one of the researchers behind the defendant. thanks so much for being with us. let's talk about what you did. you did research on masks, were you -- how did you go about doing this? >> so we developed a simple technique to visualize the effect of the mask reducing those droplets you emit by speaking. it's a very simple technique that we hope gets out there in the community for other people to build this and test those masks themselves. >> so what -- you made the headlines talking about neck gators, that part of your study has gotten a lot of attention. let's get that out of the way. you tested -- i believe they were single layer gators. what did you find? >> right, so the ones we tested were single layer polyester spandex gator, it was pretty thin, if you held it up to the light, you could see through it. it was easy to breathe through.
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and keep in mind, there's a tradeoff between breathability and protection. if you can easily breathe through, the droplets will have around easier time getting through. what we saw in these masks was that there seemed to be more droplets coming out, and we attribute this to the bigger droplets being broken down into a bunch of smaller droplets. the smaller particles have an easier time being carried away by the air. the masks you had around -- you didn't test double layer neck gators. what about bandannas. >> right, i mean, not all bandannas, not all neck gators are bad. as you said, we tested a single layer, if you doubled them up, i'm sure this would get better, if you use a different material it would get better. the bandanna will be tested. also, a standard bandanna,
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double layer, nice triangle shape. that blocked about 50% of the particles which is better than nothing. >> and so what would you recommend in terms of -- if you were picking a mask, knowing what you know now, what would would you look for? >> i personally use a cotton mask, it's a good compromise between comfort and protection. the cotton mask, all the cotton masks we tried had about 80% reduction in particles and for every day use for the general public this is perfectly fine. it doesn't have to be a perfect mask. it doesn't have to be an n-95 mask to be helpful. we recommend that those masks are reserved for those people who need it. >> cotton masks two layers better than one obviously. >> we didn't do a systematic study of those. we can't recommend a number of
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layers. the more the better, again if it gets too thick you won't be able to breathe through it. people may not wear them because they're not comfortable enough. >> wear a mask, even if you think it's not doing much, it's better than nothing? >> we always recommend people wear masks. in combination with the social distancing, proper hygiene, hand washing by itself. >> appreciate it, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me, anderson. a new name joins -- chelsea clinton speaks about conspiracy theories next.
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the fda says there's at least 270 active trials in this country for coronavirus treatment. 28 vaccines are in the human stage worldwide. if one breaks through and is proven safe, there's another barrier, fear. many families are worried about the pros and cons of taking a vaccine. others are exploiting that fear and spreading misinformation.
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i think it's a very effective vaccine. >> head of operations warp speed. to develop a covid vaccine. says the vaccine could be 90% effective or higher. and could be on the market as early as december for those at high risk? what if people refuse to get it. a recent cnn poll found that 1/3 of americans said they would not try to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, even if the vaccine is widely available and low cost. >> you don't need the vaccination. >> some advocates have been working hard creating fear of a future coronavirus vaccine. anti-vaccine lies are appearing on line. that the vaccine will leave an invisible digital tattoo. that dr. fauci is actually satan. that the vaccine is part of a
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cia illuminati to control the world. and it will make you look like this. >> polling has shown that many americans say they won't get the covid vaccine when it comes out. does that worry you? >> it terrifies me. >> through the clinton foundation and international speeches, clinton has become a leading vaccine advocate. >> have anti-valvers called you hateful names? >> i've been called a murderer and fear monger. i get quite a bit of hate. >> she knows personally how strongly anti-valvers feel. when she was pregnant with her first child. >> she looked deep into my eyes and said, please tell me you won't vaccinate your child. please don't do that. i was so taken aback. of course i'm going to vaccinate my child. she said something along the lines of, their death and damage
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will be on your head. >> what do you think of the job the cdc is doing in the area? >> they're not doing a job. i mean, they're not doing a job. nothing is happening in our country on this front at a coordinated level, from our government. from the the u.s. department of health and human services says their public health information campaign will focus on vaccine safety, efficacy and hesitancy. this should have been done months ago and the message needs to be loud and clear. >> it isn't like i like iced coffee and my husband likes ice quay. this isn't a debate about opinion. this is life and death. >> when it comes to people not getting vaccinated, i don't know you must encounter this from
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time to time. what do you say to people to convince them of the scientific evidence? >> we certainly see this all the time. the best example that probably everyone is experienced is people telling you they get the flu vaccine and get the flu or get a cold. in fact, we have extremely good randomized control trials that were done where people who got the active vaccine compared to the placebo were asked about side effects. the placebo group reported getting a cold or getting sick after the vaccine. it's the power of these individual stories countered by our ability to explain to people proven science. and this ability of us to communicate just like the last story that you had from chelsea clinton. it is tremendously important for us to be able to effectively
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communicate. not only proven science, but counter conspiracy theories. and even just the individual incredibly compelling stories that parents tell and associate what happens with the vaccine to their child. this type of communication is extremely important. it takes a tremendous amount of time and resource. and it takes tremendous trust in who the communicators are. and i think unfortunately we really just had a chronic under funding and recognition of the importance of. and even respect for public health in the united states. and public health, we realize now how absolutely essential public health is in response to every single nation response to this pandemic. public health is absolutely essential in non-pandemic times too. to provide the vetted factual
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information and debunk bad information. >> they have been able to eliminate polio in the world. the foundation and others. and yet, people view that as some sort of global conspiracy. it's so antiscience and just it defies logic in many cases. i understand a lot of parents just have very understandable fear and concern. when it comes to kids there's a survey found 84% of parents believe vaccines are the best way to protect kids. two-thirds are nervous because of covid-19. how important is it to get for kids to get vaccines as they head back to school? >> it's essential. this is something that we have to message about and if we
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haven't been doing it yet we have to start. we knew we would face this as a problem. and we know in the past century what's happened when groups of people have not been vaccinated. we have had out breaks of measles and epidemics of whooping cough. in the u.s. and other countries. it's essential that we get the proven information out to families. so that they understand how critically important it is for them to vaccinate children. against these diseases. >> yeah. what do you fear will happen if the number of kids getting vaccinations continues to decline and even the idea of finally a vaccine for covid-19 and people decide not to take it? >> right. it's the same thing about communicating. people have a choice. it's a matter of whether their choice is listening to the individual very compelling stories.
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