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hello, everyone. i'm kate baldwin. one day after the united states hit its highest death tolerate of the summer so far, the cdc is warning the next few weeks will be bad. the coronavirus could kill another 22,000 americans by labor day if things do not change. the country is now, once again, averaging more than 1,000 deaths a day with 18 states seeing an
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increase in deaths over the past week. and the number of new infections are now back to about 50,000 a day. so here we are, halfway through another round and it is abundantly clear that once again, as a country, we are losing valuable time. it was just a few weeks ago dr. anthony fauci said the infection rate never got low enough. and that when we -- and that was when we averaged about 20,000 cases a day. now our average is more than double that. and as more schools open up and more children head back to class, dr. fauci is making it clear that he does not like where things are headed. >> bottom line is, i'm not pleased with how things are going. this is the thing that is disturbing to me is that we're starting to see the inkling of the upticks in the percent of the tests that are positive. which we know now from sad past
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experience that that is a predictor that you're going to have more surges. to think that you can ignore the buy logic and get the economy back, it's not going to happen. it's just not going to happen. you've got to do both. >> and with that in mind, there's a new warning today for one of the first states to reopen and a state seeing a major spike right now. the "atlanta journal constitution" is reporting the task force sent a warning to the state of georgia that it is simply not doing enough. there is widespread and expanding community viral spread. cnn's martin savage is joining us wise from atlanta with the latest. martin, what else are you learning of this memo and is there any response from the governor who everyone knows now has resisted many health recommendations all along?
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>> this report is without a doubt a double slam against governor brian kemp. number one, it's very blunt in saying you're just not getting the job done. and number two, this is coming from president trump's coronavirus task force. brian kemp is a staunch supporters of president trump so it has a real political sting to it, as well. going through some of the language, listen to this. current mitigation efforts not having a sufficient impact. in other words, what you're doing isn't working. the task force is finally recommending that the state have a mask mandate, period. that is something the governor has pushed back continuously on. georgia allows nightclubs in bars and gyms to be open. with some restriction webs but this task force is saying in the hardest hit counties, you cannot continue to allow them to remain open. it talks about restaurants. in georgia, you concede to as many people as possible as long as you sit them six feet@part. the task force says no, you can
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only go up to a quarter of the restaurant's capacity. and it goes on and on. social gatherings, the state allows you to have up to 50 people. the task force is saying no, you have to keep it to 10 and under. so what is the governor saying about all this? there was a state that was put out. but it didn't appear to be reacting to these criticisms. it says this, governor kemp continues to rely on the data, science and the public health advice of dr. tomey. as the governor said many times before, this fight is protecting the lives and livelihoods of all georgians. he's losing lives. twice this week, the state set records for coronavirus deaths. and there's no doubt if this spread continues, the economy will suffer, as well, kate.
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>> yeah. i mean, it is an indictment of their policies so far. there is no question. martin, thank you very much. joining me now is dr. jaw. we have been hearing what the white house task force told georgia in this memo from you for quite some time. i mean, what do you think of this? >> yeah. so thanks for having me on, indicate. this is not rocket science. we know the major public health interventions that georgia needs. and georgia has been ignoring the public health scientists. and now we find out that they've also been ignoring the white house task force. so, you know, the problem here is there are two things. one is there's a misunderstanding that somehow there's a tradeoff between lives and livelihoods. there isn't. places that do well on protecting public health can get their economy going much faster and much better. i think the governor seems to not understand that. and second is that, you know, the lives of georgians aren't
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going to get better until he implements the things that the white house task force is suggesting. so doing it sooner rather than later will save lives and will get the economy in better shape. >> yeah. now, dr. jaw, you have been talking about testing and leading on the testing front for a long time. and i wanted to ask you about this. the top person on testing in the country for the government is saying that the goal should not now be to test as many people as possible frequently. i want to play what admiral jewal said on a call to reporters. it surprised me. >> not only do we not recommend this strategy of testing everyone on a frequent basis, but i think it could instill a false sense of security. do you agree with that? >> i don't. and i don't know any public health person who does. and i think the admiral fundamentally misunderstands the purposes of testing, which is unfortunately because he is our
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national testing czar, so you would think he would have a better understanding. the point of testing is to identify people who are sick and offer a bit of protection over the spread of the disease. if you never try to test and identify asymptomatic people, you're going to miss all of them and you're going to miss you all the big outbreaks, which is what is happening in the united states right now. so none of us are arguing that we should test every american every day. that would be great if we could. but we have to be able to test a much broader swath of the population, particularly high risk people, particularly students who are going back, nursing home residents, admiral gerard seems to have given up on all of that and is taking a approach that is not going to protect the american people. >> we have to dive further into this. he was frustrated in this call with reporters is what we're hearing. and he really pushed back. let me read you other statements
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that he made on this call. it is a false narrative and i'm tired of hearing it by people who are not involved in the system that we need millions of tests every day. you beat the virus, he also says, by smart policies supplemented by strategic testing. you do not beat the virus by shotgun testing everyone all the time. what do you think of that? >> so on one hand, kate, the proof is in the pudding. we have the worst response of any major country in the world. and our testing infrastructure is in trouble. so what i would say to the admiral is, first, please focus on trying to deliver testing for the american people. a lot of americans are frustrated about how hard it is to get a test, how long the results are coming back. instead of attacking experts who -- right, rather than arguing over this. >> yeah. this is -- in my mind, can we focus on testing, please? can we focus on the virus, please, and not argue about things that no public health person is arguing about.
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i don't know any public health expert who thinks we have enough testing in the country. we don't have enough testing for schools. we don't have enough testing for nursing homes. those are really important. instead of arguing, it would be helpful if the admiral focused on testing for the american people. >> look, i just talked to the head of an organize that represents nursing home. and he has been -- he says it's like a five alarm fire right now, once again, because they need more testing, they need more ppe in nursing homes. it is no joke right now. to be clear, i looked on the cdc website just to double-check. according to the cdc, there have been a total of just over 69 million tests performed so far in the country. dr. jaw, how many tests do you think we need to be doing. the level of the outbreak, we need at least 4 to 5 million tests. that is about 1% to 1.5% of the population being tested, not everybody being tested. 4 to 5 million gives us a fighting chance of bringing this
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virus under control. i'm not saying all we need to do is testing. but that is one of the critical elements that we need to have. and right now, we're testing 700,000 or 800,000 people a fraction of the number we need. >> and remember, everybody, back in july, gerard testifying before congress saying the government would be able to perform 40 million to 50 million tests per month. apply your math to that capacity. we've got half a month's worth that we would be capable of doing by the -- and he wanted to see 40 to 50 million tests being able to be performed per month by the fall. we are clearly nowhere near that. >> that was not anywhere near enough. kids are going back to school. kids are going back to college. colleges are going to start to try to test students and faculty. schools desperately want to be able to test kids and staff and teachers, but the testing
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capacity just isn't there. so i don't know why admiral gerard thinks we are doing plenty of testing when literally no health expert in the entire country agrees with his assessment. >> and you are not an alarmist. i don't get it. at this point in the pandemic where we are as a country, why he is saying this kind of stuff. >> so i've known admiral gerard for a number of years. he is a good person and i think he cares about our country and wants to try to get this right. the problem is that he's thinking as a doctor, as a diagnostician saying when a sick person walks into my office, he want to be able to do a test. that's fine. that's important, actually. but half the spread of this virus happens in people that are asymptomatic. you need a proactive strategy to go seek out the virus, figure
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out the high risk mayss and identify it. that's how every other country has brought this disease under control. he doesn't see things that way and i don't understand why. he has to put on a public health hat. he has to stop thinking about being a clinician in the office only without that we're not going to be able to get our arms around the virus. and i feel like he has not been able to shift his mind-set. and i think that's unfortunate. >> it's deflating to think of if that is the standpoint where this is all heading come the fall. i really -- it's -- i'm scared. dr. jaw, thank you. oh, go ahead. go ahead. >> i was just going to say, i think a lot of states are taking the lead here, so even if the federal government has sort of given up on this, i think we need to find way toes support states. many of them are being very proactive. so that gives me hope. >> i'll take it. i'm going to take it and i'm going hold on to it because it's a kernel and that is what we need right now. coming in, president trump's
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younger brother, robert trump, has been hospitalized here in new york. the white house has confirmed this to cnn just a short time ago. abc news was the first to report this and they added the details of his condition remain unknown. it is described as several sources as very ill. and they also say the president is expected to visit his brother today. we'll follow this close and bring you any updates we hear about robert trump. coming up for us, a florida school district planned to start the school year online and then the state weighed in. why that school district is now opening its doors weeks earlier than it planned. plus, a new memo from the head of the postal service about recent cuts. just as president trump explains why he is opposed to funding the post office. asher brands recommend cascade platinum... ...with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. for sparkling-clean dishes, the first time.
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california hitting a new high today. it has just become the first state to report more than 600,000 coronavirus cases. that is substantially more than entire countries have seen. stephanie elam is in los angeles with more. as california becoming the first state to surpass 600,000 cases, the death toll almost at 11,000. now, to put that into perspective, new york state has a death toll of more than 32,800. but when you look at the case number, it took just two weeks to get from 500,000 to 600,000. also worth noting that there is still a number of backlog cases, including in this tally this week. overall, though, the numbers are looking better. hospitalizations are down. the number of icu admissions are down in the state and the
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positivity rate is now below 6% when in july it was hovering at about 7.5%. >> stephanie, thank you so much. let's go the florida right now. one county there is now making a last minute change to plans. after the state threatened to withhold funding if they did not. hillsboro county public schools previously announced it would start school all online for the first four weeks. and then the state stepped in. florida officials ordering all public schools to offer in person classes by the end of august or risk losing millions of dollars of funding at a time when no school needs less funding, they actually need more. so despite their original assessment, this school district backtracked. cnn's rosa flores joins me now from miami. you've been tracking this closely. what really happened here? >> you know, kate, if you asked the state of florida, they will say absolutely not. it has not nothing to do with funding because funding is set by state law. well, if you ask hillsboro county public schools, they said
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they would say not so fast. here is how this all went down. last week, hillsboro public schools voted for the reopening of schools for virtual school only for the first four weeks of the school year. shortly that far, florida's education commissioner sent a scathing letter to the superintendent saying that he had great concerns because what this school decided was against the emergency order that he issued, which requires schools to provide in-person instruction. now, in the past week, what has happened? the superintendent traveled to tallahassee to try to iron things out so they could continue with their plan. yesterday he tweeted the following. he said, quote, the department of education made it clear that any model outside the emergency order would result in a negative financial impact. and he goes on to say, let me be clear. our school board made an inform
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informed decision substantiated after local public health authorities. during the school board meeting, they had medical experts talk to and recommend and show the data to the school board members and the recommendation was for in person instruction not to happen because of the positivity rate. those experts were recommending the county have a positivity rate of 5 3e% or under. the florida positivity rate has been between 6.5 and 10%. now we did get a response from the florida's department of education. here is what they said. quote, we're glad superintendent davis worked hard to ensure the hillsboro county school board decided to provide choice and flexibility to students. what does this mean at the end of the day? this means schools in hillsboro county will begin virtually on august 24th and then they will
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if you haven't paid close attention to what has gone on with voting by mail, now is definitely the time to start. so many developments even in the last 24 hours that can and will impact the fall election. first, you had the president admit in his own words that the reason he is opposed to funding is because he doesn't want vote by mail to happen in this country. >> sthe need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all these millions and millions of ballots. if we don't make a deal, they can't get the money and they don't have universal mail-in voting. they just can't have it. >> a few hours later, the president didn't back down under questioning. >> they need that money in order
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to make the post office work so it can take all these millions and millions of balance y09s. and you said that would be fraudulent. >> no. i said it will end up being fraudulent because look at the few instances where this has happened. it's turned out to be fraudulent. >> once again, the president makes these claims of fraud, but doesn't back them up with evidence. then i guess you could call this irony, but it's more like hi hypocrisy. it was revealed president trump and first lady malania trump requested mail-in ballots for florida's upcoming primary. a federal judge is demanding the trump campaign provide proof to back up their claims of vote by mail leading to fraught in response to the lawsuit that the president's team filed to change how the team collects and counts mail-in ballots. that is not all.
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the u.s. postal service is now planning to remove hundreds of machines from postal offices, machines that would help process mail including ballots faster and more efficiently and effectively. and as has been noted but worth repeating, that new postmaster general leading these changes is a top rnc donor, a trump appointee. former president trump is now saying this in an issue, everyone depends on the usps, seniors for social security, small businesses trying to keep their doors open. they can't be collateral damage for an administration more concern with suppressing the vote more than suppressing a virus. >> it appears to be the
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degrading of the u.s. postal service where we know many of americans are expected to use that very postal service in order to cast their ballot. and it doesn't end there. and i want to bring up one very important point that you mentioned there. the finance chair of the now done charlotte convention. as you and i know from covering politics, that is not a small potatoes. that is a big deal. that is a big time donor. we have learned today out of the
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two of them, president trump and joy met a week ago. the reason why this is racing questions is given the timing and what we're seeing at the post office. president trump a week later said he hadn't talked to the postmaster general, so trying to sort out how that works fueling these allegations that the trump administration is working with the post office to affect the elections. >> postal officials are saying right now these delays, this is going to contribute to postal delays down the road. they don't see a path to this making things more streamlined and efficient. and one other thing he said,
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it's very interesting particularly as we talk about this relationship between dejoy and president trump. he talks about how critics are always soon to go after the postal service aes dire financial situation webs but without offering any solution. and this comes at a time in which we know they're trying to get billions of dollars to the postal service during the election and it has been president trump himself who said he was opposed to that because of mail-in voting. >> you would think someone who would be a finance chair of an election could deal with having a opinion on that. now to the developing story out of washington, the government accountability office just put out a new report this morning and it says the top appointments at the department of homeland security are invalid. evan joins me now on this. why are these appointments invalid? >> they say under the vacancies reform act, this is the law that
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new this morning, top government scientists are crating a backup plan for the backup plan when it comes to developing a covid vaccine. dr. anthony fauci confirmed researchers are working on a plan d, create ago strain of coronavirus that could be used in human challenge trials as they are called. it is not imminent, but it is important.
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elizabeth cohen is joining me now. with challenge trials, it's very different. you intentionally infect someone. you vaccinate them and then you put the virus literally up their noises to see if they get sick or not. now, everyone has said no, we are not going to do this. there has been a decision. we're not going to do this. but what we've learned now is the nih is going to have a contract with the company to make a type of strain of the virus that can be used in these challenge trials. i spoke with dr. fauci and he said this is a far out contingency. this is very preliminary. they don't want to do these trials, but if they have to, they want to have the strain of the virus in the freezer that they could use. but, again, he thinks and everyone i've talked to thinks this strain will never be used. it will never be put to use. it will sit in the freezer.
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indicate. there is a new message today from the head of the nih and that is don't expect to see an approved covid vaccine by october. maybe november, december would be my best bet. the mention of october is significant because there has been concern among public health experts that president trump might be applying pressure on the fda to approve a vaccine ahead of the november election, an october surprise, if you will, to help his re-election. so where exactly are we in the race to find a vaccine? joining me now, dr. evan anderson.
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dr. anderson, thank you for taking the time. you heard there what dr. collins says about the timeline. can you tell me what you think the timeline is realistically for results from your time trial? >> yes. this is the first of the phase three studies that will be evaluating the maderna vaccine. and 30,000 individuals will be enrolled and followed for covid-19 cases over the course of the next month. and, really, up to two years from now. from that standpoint, i agree with dr. collins, at this point, it looks very unlikely that we would see any results before late november or december at best in my opinion. but it does depend how much covid-19 is circulating in the community at the time that the study is ongoing. >> and isn't it, illustrate depends on enrollment, how
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quickly you get to that 30,000 person enrollment. how is enrollment going for you all right now? >> ive think there were numbers increased in the week at 5,000. the numbers are increasing rapidly. >> do you have an estimation of when you think you'll hit that full enrollment? >> it is hard for me to estimate from the study standpoint when that full enrollment will be achieved. my guess is sometime in september. >> in september. and then it comes down to science. they get one vaccination and then a month later, if you will, another one. so there is this time period that has to happen. it has to lapse. that is a major factor here.
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if people want to enroll and want to volunteer, what should they know? >> so it is what we call a double blind blah zee bow control from that study. and we follow to see who acqu e acquires covid-19 during this study. we're able to see whether the vaccine actually works. it's as well an assessment of the safety of the vaccine in large numbers of individuals to look for relatively rare side effects. >> the trial is only testing the vaccine on adults 18 or older. so if this vaccine proves effective and proves safe, what does it mean for children?
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will you know if it's safe and effective for them at that point? >> no. there will need to be earlier responses of the dose and the vaccine in children and to look at the safety in large numbers of children before it would be able to be licensed. this would take a while for the u.s. population, i think it would be good to be able to start those studies soon so that we might be able to help protect children from covid-19 as it is quite clear that they are infected with some frequency and do suffer life threatening and even fatal events related to covid-19 and the inflammatory syndrome that occurs afterwards. >> so i have to ask you about this russian vaccine. after claiming that they've come up with the first effective covid-19 vaccine in the world, russian officials are telling cnn now that the government has
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offered to help the united states effort and share information about their vaccine. there is understandable skepticism in trusting russia. one government official, i think, put it some way like there is no way we're going to test it, test that vaccine on monkeys, let alone on people. to put it bluntly. do you, dr. anderson, want assistance from the russian government on your drug trial? >> absolutely not. so from the standpoint of vaccine studies conducted here in the u.s., it's important for the public to understand the fda will review all the data before they make any decisions about licensure. and they will ensure the study is done with appropriate and informed consent and that the data are reliable and trustworthy. we would want that for any vaccine that were to move forward with licensure in the
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u.s. so it is an opportunity for russia to provide a vaccine. >> dr. anderson, thank you very much for your time and for all our your effort with trying to do anything that is going to get us back to a semester ambulance of normal for getting a safe and effective vaccine. thank you, doctor. >> you're welcome. thank you. coming up for us, joe biden and senator kamala harris calling for a new mask mandate, dropping campaign ads and making it clear how central the pandemic response is to the november election. nd your get-u. find pants that aren't sweats. find your friends. find your sense of wander. find the world is new, again. at chevy we'd like to take you there. now during the chevy open road sales event, get up to 15% of msrp cash back on select 2020 models. that's over fifty-seven hundred dollars cash back on this equinox.
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we're standing by for an event with joe biden and running mate kamala harris in delaware. i want to talk about this. right now we are seeing the biden campaign is making masks a very central campaign issue. in a new ad released today biden calls for a nationwide mask mandate. drawing a clear contrast with president trump on this simple thing. listen to this. >> joe biden knows we need to listen to medical experts and take action now. that starts by expanding testing, calling for mask mandates nationwide starting immediately and producing more protective gear here at home. >> joining me now is cnn's arlette seins in delaware. we'll call it tripling down on the message now. >> reporter: yeah. they certainly are. you have heard over the course of the past few months joe biden has repeatedly turned back to the coronavirus response and has
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been quite critical of the president's handling of covid-19. in the events that they held yesterday as well as these new ads you are seeing them reinforce that message. biden and his new running mate kamala harris had a coronavirus briefing yesterday with some public health experts and delivered remarks where they both called for that nationwide mask mandate and now rolling that out in even more tv ads. for the past few months biden's tv ads focused on the coronavirus response and trying to some of them almost even being on psa advertisements telling people to wear their masks and socially distance but it is clear that the biden campaign is trying to present that contrast with president trump coming the coronavirus pandemic. they feel that he was not quick enough to acknowledge the seriousness of this issue and that that is the reason that you are seeing the number of cases happening right now but biden
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has repeatedly gone back in the first remarks they did with kamala harris as a running mate, they slammed the president for coronavirus. yesterday they made that their central issue and likely to be something to carry forward in these coming weeks. today in just a short while we will see them together signing the documents to officially receive the democratic nomination next week, both biden and harris will be delivering acceptance speeches here in delaware as the coronavirus pandemic had derailed the convention plans in milwaukee. >> arlette, thank you so much. we are standing by for that event and bring it to you when it begins and see what we can see as they sign the documents. coronavirus pandemic hit communes of color especially hard. since 2013, cnn hero robin carol is helping people in chicago's west englewood neighborhood and now in the wake of covid-19 her efforts are needed more now than
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ever. >> what the pandemic showed was the inequities between white and black america. look at the amount of black americans that are dying from covid. we know that we are in a community that is very vulnerable and has very little resources and that they would be extremely hard hit. >> hand sanitizer? >> we needed to step in and just provide even more supplies and comfort and security. hi! >> how are you doing? >> i think we always heal in community. we just hold space for the fact that there's just a lot of pain and no matter how it comes out we are here to support you, help you. we see you. we see you. >> for more on robin's work go to cnn heroes.com. we'll be back. ♪
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we have to meet itg aas one country.. numbers don't lie. infection rates are now going up in more states than they are going down. we've got to fight this together. wear a mask, keep your distance, limit the size of crowds. it may be inconvenient and may be uncomfortable, but it's the right thing to do as an american. we need a president who will level with the american people, a president who will tell us the unvarnished truth, a president who will take responsibility instead of always blaming others, a president who will listen to the experts, follow the science, allow them to speak, a president who will lead and be an example for the nation. we have to do all we can to keep our fellow americans safe and healthy. i'm joe biden and i approve this message.
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