35 years. he loved golf, a good burger, and love all his family, including his beloved health provider, alex. may they rest in peace. to all the caregivers, we say thank you. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next the postal service warning states it may not be able to deliver election ballots on time, this as president obama accuses president trump of trying to quote, kneecap the postal service in order to win election. plus jared kushner fanning the birther attack on kamala harris. why aren't republicans stepping up and shutting down this rausist conspiracy theory? tonight the u.s. topping another 1,000 coronavirus deaths today as cnn is learning another controversial doctor has the president's ear. let's go "outfront." good evening everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin

burnett. kneecap the postal service to win election. serious accusation from former president barack obama aimed at president donald trump. >> what we've seen in a way that is unique to modern political history is a president who's explicitly trying to discourage people from voting. what we've never seen before is a president say, i'm going to try to actively kneecap the postal service to encourage voting, and i will be explicit about the reason i'm doing it. >> this comes as the postal service tonight is reportedly warning 46 states that mail-in ballots may not be returned in time to count for the election because of lags in mail delivery. why a lag? because the postal service is starved for cash at a time when demand for mail-in ballots has never been higher. all the while, president trump's hand picked postmaster general,

a campaign donor, is behind a major restructuring of the agency that includes cuts to hours, banning trips to deliver mail on time, and removing high volume mail processing machines across the country. all of these moves will very likely lead to even more log jams, something the postmaster general admitted, saying, unfortunately this transformative initiative has had unintended consequences that impacted our service level. the president today says he'll continue to oppose $25 billion in funding for the postal service unless democrats give in to his demands. >> would you be willing to accept the $25 billion for the postal service including the $3.5 billion. >> it's not what i want. it's what the american people want. >> would you sign off on the money for the postal service? >> they're not giving it to me.

they're giving it to the american people. >> you would agree with that? >> i would certainly do that, sure. >> it seems more than clear now. he has no desire to allow this to happen because he said the quiet part out loud yesterday. >> they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting because they're not equipped to vitt. >> there's no way to know for sure if one party benefits more than the other, but it's crystal clear one party is more willing to consider it. a new poll found that 72% of democratic voters were very or somewhat likely to vote my bail compared to 65% of republicans who said they were not at all likely to do so. it seems clear what the president's doing, trying to use the postal service to his advantage in the election. jessica schneider is "outfront." jessica, is the message from the president honestly that he would

rather have people risk their health in the middle of a pandemic to vote rather than allow mail-in ballots that he believes will hurt his chances? >> reporter: kate, the president has been persistent in this message that he does not want widespread mail-in balloting despite the fact this pandemic has caused a lot of concern for many americans about actually going to polls. so, tonight, while the president continues to push this false claim about widespread voter fraud and also points to possible problems at the postoffice, well, his and first lady melania trump's mail-in ballots, they're getting ready to go. >> when florida holds its primary election on tuesday, president trump and the first lady will be voting by mail. the couple requesting ballots as president trump has repeatedly claimed wide n voting leads to widespread voter fraud. >> it will end up being fraudulent because if you look at what's happened over the last few weeks, look at the few instances where this has

happened. it's turned out to be fraudulent. >> reporter: cnn's fact checking team has debunked that claim. more states are using mail-in ballots. new jersey is just the latest state. that makes nine states plus washington, d.c. that will now give all voters the option to vote by mail and most have in-person voting known as a hybrid model. >> everybody gets a ballot. we have a hybrid model in november. >> some voters say they are increasingly confused by election information they're receiving in the mail. in d.c., there were erroneous instructions, and in new hampshire and virginia, the mailers contained errors in the return address. in pennsylvania, republicans are racing toward a friday night deadline to turnover evidence that proving their claims of mail-in voter fraud in the state's primaries. it will be a pivotal point in a battleground state.

the trump campaign has sued for changes to the mail-in ballot. now a judge is making them prove there are problems. democrats said republicans should not be allowed to make such claims in this national climate. this is the fight over funding at the u.s. postal service continues with a new letter obtained from cnn showing the trump appointee and long time republican donor acknowledging the recent changes have had unintended consequences but says the cuts are necessary since the financial condition is dire. >> people have to go to the polls have vote like the old days. >> cnn has learned that the president met with the postmaster last week at the height of funding talks as he opposed widespread vote by mail. >> president trump is lying about vote by mail. he is lying about mail ballots. colorado has a clean history of

oning great elections with vote by mail. >> the internal watchdog for the postal service is reviewing recent changes by the postmaster general lewis dejoy also looking into whether dejoy followed the ethics rules. 10 page letter demanding answers. but kate, dejoy has denied that all these changes would disrupt service, instead saying that these cuts are necessary because of the financial condition that the usps is in. >> thanks for that. appreciate it. "outfront" now, the democratic secretary of state of vermont, thanks so much for being here. "the washington post" is reporting that 46 states got letters from the postal service that they might not be able to deliver ballots in time. have you received one of these letters? >> to my knowledge, we have not received the letter from the postmaster general at this point. i guess it could still be in the mail. >> i guess -- and there's some joke there. what do you think of this

warning though, secretary? 46 states. it's likely to be an issue for vermont as well if they think that they're not going to be able to turn ballots -- get ballots back in time. what do you make of this warning? >> so, it's very concerning. and we've been working with our postal liaison since probably mid-april, and we've been meeting with her weekly. and we've been assured that election mail will be given a high priority. you know, we've followed all the regulations of the post office. we've got the post office logo on there for election mail. everything is really to the letter to meet the postal service needs as well. so, we just came off of a primary on tuesday this week, overwhelming primary that had an increase of close to 50% over our previous record.

and probably 75% of that was vote by mail. we had stories coming from town clerks around vermont that talked about how the postmasters in the local post offices were calling them to tell them that they just received two or three more election ballot. and the town clerk would send someone down to pick those up. so, we feel pretty confident here in vermont. i am concerned about my colleagues across the country. let me be clear, kate, this is not a red state/blue state issue. this is about our democracy. the more voters that we have, it strengthens our democracy. >> everything that we've laid out that's going on with the postal service -- and when you look at what the president has said that he is trying to do, do you think it's voter suppression? >> absolutely i do. i think this is blatant voter suppression, and i find it remarkable that we have a president of the united states who is in that position to push

the voter fraud mantra. if you think about it, the real voter fraud in this country, the really true voter fraud is to deny any eligible american their constitutional right to vote. that's why dismantling the post office is so dangerous to our democracy. >> does knowing this, even with the plans in place, are you thinking of changing how you're going to run voting in the state come november? do you need to come up with contingency plans? are you nervous? >> well, we're going to look at all our options, and we will continue to adjust as necessary. i work with our legislature to have the authority to move quickly and nimbly in making some decisions that we normally wouldn't be able to do all because of covid. you know, you said it earlier that no american -- no voter should have to choose between their health and their right to

vote. >> it's true. that's just the honest to goodness truth. mr. secretary, thank you for your time. "outfront" with me now cnn chief political analyst gloria borger and professor of law at new york university. got almost 50 states now being warned mail-in ballots may not be received in time to count. president trump is opposed to mail-in ballots and holding up funds for the service. are there any doubts at this point what is happening here? >> no, i think quite clearly when you look at, for example, what the secretary of state was saying and what the president is saying, this is nothing less than an effort to undermine democracy in this country. the president is on the one hand complaining about a rigged election. on the other hand, he seems to become complicit in trying to rig it. the president is telling people effectively, your ballots won't be counted. the post office can't do the job

they're supposed to do. the funding they need they are not getting. his hand picked postmaster general of all things decided to streamline -- and i'm using that in air quotes -- streamline the post office during a pandemic and right before an election. how silly is that? so, what you have is a system that is clearly under stress and a white house that is putting it under more stress as people want to figure out how they can vote in a safe way. >> and look, we're hearing it -- heard from the secretary of state right there from vermont. you heard it from the secretary of state of colorado yesterday here on the program. voter suppression. do you see it that way when you look at the law there? >> well, i think there's very little other way to read this. i mean, it's very clear that mail-in balloting and voting by mail does not increase voter fraud. so, the president's claims that

this would increase fraud seems to fall on deaf ears. instead, what you're left with is the two choices. it's either a situation where he's trying to prevent certain voters from going to the polls or alternatively set up a narrative that if he loses there's something me fanefariou work here. >> gloria, president obama tweeted the trump administration is more concerned with suppressing the vote than suppressing the virus. he also talked about in a podcast as well, let me replay that for you. >> what we've seen in a way that is unique to modern political history is a president who's explicit trying to discourage people from voting, right? what we've never seen before is a president say, i'm going to try to actively kneecap the postal service to encourage voting, and i will be explicit about the reason i'm doing it.

>> did you ever think that we would be sitting here -- you would see a sitting president of the united states go to the lengths to prevent americans from voting in the election? you hear obama kind of laughing because it is pretty unbelievable how it's playing out. >> it is. it is unbelievable. it's so unbelievable to hear a former president talk this way about a member of the president's club. he's effectively saying this guy is trying to undermine this election, and he's the guy sitting in the oval office. and that's, you know, even though it's an election year, it's kind of striking to me to hear it from a former president. but given everything we've gone through with donald trump, in a way, perhaps, it's not surprising. what is more surprising is that he can't get the message straight on this politically. i mean, on the one hand, he and his wife are going to vote absentee ballot, which is the same as, you know, voting by mail in the state of florida. and he's also saying, oh, by the way, some states are good.

like, if you want to vote by mail in florida, that's fine, but not other states that are run by democratic governors. people have to scratch their heads about that and say, wait a minute, what is the truth here, and what is he really trying to do? and understand that a lot of republicans are going to him and saying wait a minute, you may suppress democrats here if that's your goal, but you're also going to suppress some of your own voters. >> that's part of the head scratching bit. it seems even republicans don't want to hold up funding for the postal service. i want to play for your kevin mccarthy this morning. >> the postal service will have the funding that it needs, and we'll make sure of that. we want to make sure we have an accurate election. i think any republican who gets a ballot in the mail should vote that and make sure their vote is counted. >> that's what you want to hear. he says the funding is going to be there. i'm scratching my head at how this is playing out.

what do you want -- what questions do you have? what do you want to know now? >> it's very clear that voting by mail doesn't necessarily advantage either party. it just benefits democracy because more people are allowed to participate. the thing that i find striking here, it goes back to something that gloria just said, is this so unbelievable? is really isn't for this particular president. this is a president who has never been orthodox or cared about the rules of how things have played out. and it's not surprising that on an eve of an election where he's being pill ried for his terrible handling of a global health crisis, that he's now doubling down on the one situation, the post office, that could possibly facilitate voting in a safe way in an election he's likely to be unsuccessful in. >> thank you both very much. appreciate it. "outfront" for us next, jared kushner is fanning the flames of what is a racist lie about kamala harris. >> does the trump campaign

accept that kamala harris is a qualified candidate? >> look, at the end of the day it's something that's out there. >> why are republicans silent on this? plus president trump has a new person briefing him on coronavirus. who is scott atlas and why is the controversial doctor in task force meetings and the oval office? and kamala harris in her first interview since joining the democratic ticket. >> joe biden had the audacity to choose a black woman to be his running mate. how incredible is that? it's time for the biggest sale of the year on the sleep number 360 smart bed.

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why would the president want to be associated with somebody who wrote that? >> so, again, i have so much respect for you, so i'll answer this in the most polite way possible, which is the president was asked a president and he said he didn't know anything about it. >> would you apologize for your candidate for him spreading that information. >> the president is about to do a press conference. i'll let the cnn reporters ask the president that. >> jared kushner repeatedly claiming that the president didn't know anything about it. but here is fully what the president actually said. >> -- say whether or not kamala harris is eligible -- meets the legal requirements to run as vice president. >> so, i just heard that. i heard it today that she doesn't meet the requirements. and by the way, the lawyer that wrote that piece is a very

highly-qualified, very talented lawyer. i have no idea if that's right. i would have assumed the democrats would have checked that out before she gets chosen to run for vice president. >> and that's not exactly how kushner tried to spin it today. the president knows better. he could have said he didn't believe it. he says he doesn't believe a multitude of facts and reality on a daily basis. he knew what he was doing. "outfront" now bah carrie sellers. you heard tkushner saying the president didn't know anything about it. was that a wink wink nod way of having it both ways. >> i don't have a lot of faith in jared kushner. i don't have a lot of faith in people around the president to push back on his racism. this country is becoming browner and there's no one who will step in the way of the president of the united states' racism. we know that to be a fact.

so, jared kushner cowardice today is what we expect him to be day in and day out. but this is simply a distraction. what we realize is that while donald trump and mike pence are trying to build a wall, while they are trying to do everything they can to divide us and embrace the confederacy, you have a president and vice president who look like joe biden and kamala harris who resemble the harris and what we want this country to look like, a melting pot, which it is. we value diversity. there's no clearer contrast. we don't even get to the point where you have the president trying to disassemble the united states postal service and 130,000, 140,000 people dead on his watch. this is pure and utter racism and we have to call it such. >> congressman, kushner also was pressed about this on cbs this morning. he me just play for you how he went about it this time.

>> you just said that he had no idea whether that's right or wrong. i don't see that as promoting it. but at the end of the day, it's something that's out there. >> it's something that's out there. he's one of his main campaign advisers and he apparently also does have a brain in his head. he knows better. what is also though noticeable is the silence from other republicans. the only republican who has spoken out is lindsey graham, tweeting that there's no question that kamala is an american citizen. why do they want -- speaking about republicans -- this non-sense and racism attached to the party? >> well, it makes absolutely no sense to me, erin, because this is clearly a smear. and at worst it's a dog whistle to the q nonconspiracy theory, black tinfoil hat wearers and run with it. they tried to do this against barack obama. it didn't work. it's not going to work against

kamala harris. this will further alienate many voters republicans -- particularly in the suburbs, college educated voters and any voter who can read because this charge is easily disproven that she was in fact born in california. so, i don't understand what they're thinking, how this helps. but it is maybe a dog whistle to the nativist element to try to drive them out. >> i would go as far as don't offend people who can't read because i think even people who can't read would get this right. the president was asked today whether he has an issue with powerful women of color. watch this. >> do you have an issue with a strong woman of color being in this presidential race? >> none whatsoever. >> you don't fear -- >> as you know. none whatsoever. nope, not at all. >> watching that -- i wonder if in that answer is concern over the power of black women voters? how concerned should he be?

>> he should be very concerned. my mom and her friends are organizing already. he should be concerned on a very practical level i think that the congressman can tell you that one of the most difficult constituencies that republicans have had to crack when they get mobilized have been black women. let's talk about his disrespect to black women as well. we can go back to women who worked for him like omarosa who there's no love lost between the two of us, or talk about well-respected women like april ryan or abby phillip. the list goes on and on and on of the rim and the black women and the women of color who he's disrespected. but also about the white women that he continues to categorize as something other than being human. donald trump is a misogynist. donald trump is an awful human being. that's who we have as president of the united states. we have to reconcile that that's where we are. the question is are women just deduced to being nasty and

suburban housewives, or can they be powerful voting blocs that change the trajectory of this great country? >> i hear you and i agree it is a distraction from the larger issues that are facing the kuhn think, like covid deaths, like what's happening with the postal service, worthy of calling out when calling out need be. thanks. the truth about coronavirus, why is it so difficult for those in charge to say what they mean? >> you were minimizing testing. you did talk about focusing on symptomatic people yesterday. >> no, i've never been -- i'm sorry if that's the way it was interpreted. >> and a controversial congressional candidate in georgia who believes the qnon conspiracy theories. why is trump still backing her?

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breaking news, the white house testing czar saying the trump administration has done everything possible to increase testing in the united states. he said that just moments ago. yesterday he said the goal

should not be testing as many people as possible and frequently. >> i've got to be candid. you seem like you were minimizing testing yesterday again. you're striking a different tone right now which is great. but you were minimizing testing. you did talk about just focusing on symptomatic people yesterday. >> no, i've never and i'm sorry if that's the way it was interpreted, but we've never talked about just testing symptomatic people. >> we're going to talk to sanjay about that in a moment. first athena jones is "outfront." >> reporter: tonight, new potentially promising developments in the search for a coronavirus vaccine. results published in the journal of the american medical association indicate early trials of a chinese vaccine says it is safe and produces immune response. this as updated guidance suggests people who recover from coronavirus may be protected for up to three months.

the agency saying people who have tested positive for covid-19 do not need to quarantine or get tested again for up to three months as long as they do not develop symptoms again. meanwhile -- >> we're still in a really bad place with this pandemic. >> reporter: the cdc is now forecasting america could see another 22,000 covid-19 deaths in just the next three weeks. the agency says nearly 189,000 people will have died from coronavirus by september 5th, a startling prediction made concerning since deaths have surpassed the roughly 65,000 the cdc predicted by saturday. >> this virus hasn't changed. it's the same as it was before. >> reporter: while new inn fekss are steady or falling in 44 states, over the last week, the united states has added more than 365,000 new cases. that's enough people to fill up mercedes-benz stadium more than five times. california becoming the first state to report 600,000 covid-19

cases. and 35 states seeing higher covid test positivity rates this week than last. georgia, where deaths are also on the rise, is leading the nation in new cases per 100,000 people, averaged over the past seven days. the atlanta general constitution obtained the white house coronavirus task force's recommendations for the state which argued on august 9th there is widespread expanding community viral spread. and the state's current policies are not enough, the report calling for mask mandate and other measures, advice brian kemp has followed. the governor's office said he continues to rely on data and the advice of the state's health commissioner and that this fight is about protecting lives and livlyhoods. >> there's a misunderstanding there's a trade off between lives and livelihoods. there isn't. places that do well can get their economy going much faster and much better.

>> reporter: and speaking of those white house coronavirus task force recommendations, one of the main ones is a mask mandate, something the vast majority of americans support but that governor kemp has resisted. georgia is one of only a dozen states without a statewide mask requirement. kate. >> athena, thank you so much. "outfront" now, dr. sanjay gupta and dr. reiner, advised the white house medical team under president george w. bush. sanjay, we played that exchange you had with the man leading the white house effort on testing. what did you take from that conversation this afternoon? >> i was confused by it because he almost directly said the opposite thing today as compared to what he said yesterday. it was a recorded conversation yesterday, in which he said, look, we've got the winning strategy is to focus on testing symptomatic people. and we're doing plenty of testing. today, it was a little bit of a different message, where he said no we do have to focus on people

who don't have symptoms, acknowledging that they often are the one who is spread the virus unintentionally, unknowingly. i was so confused that i called him afterward because i wanted to understand. and we had this conversation. i took notes. what he said was yeah, clearly, we need to be doing more testing in this country. they're working on all sorts of strategies to do that in terms of new technologies. but he does continue to say he feels they've done everything they can with what he's been given in terms of establishing testing. it's clearly not enough testing. that's for certain. and i think even he would acknowledge that. >> dr. reiner, the czar also was responding to something that dr. ashish jha of the harvard global health institute told me earlier in our conversation today that to really get control of the virus that we as a country need to be doing up to 45 million tests per day. the administration then says we've done everything that we can. that's what he said, we've done everything possible that we can. do you believe it?

>> well, we clearly haven't done everything that we can. look at the positivity rate for the virus in the united states. as a whole, the united states has a positivity rate, testing positivity rate of about 7.3% which is way too high. and if you look at parts of the south, places like florida, we're at 17% or texas where it's 20%, mississippi at that level. that shows you that we're still not testing enough people. the more people you test, the more virus you find, the more people you can quarantine. and that's how you disrupt the chain of transmission. so, in order to test more, we have to be innovative. we have to bring new tests online quicker, antigen tests, point of care tests, cheap tests, paper-based tests that people can take in their house, that you can take when you get to work and be sent home if you're positive. we need to widely pool samples, test large safrps together and retest batches where there are positivities.

so, there are ways of ramping this up. we have to have the will to do it, not to throw our arms up in the air. it's insufficient. and you're right. every public health expert in the united states says the same thing. we need to test way more. right, about 30 million a week. that's about the number. >> and you need it to be a priority of the leader, of the president of the united states to lead that effort. >> right. >> sanjay, you also just learned that president trump has a new adviser on covid response, dr. scott atlas. he's formerly a doctor at stanford who has been a proponent of controversial strategies relating to coronavirus. he's now in the room, in the oval office. why? >> yeah, that's a good question. i talked to sources at the white house, and they were sort of -- they were concerned about that. i mean, dr. atlas -- and i don't really know much about him. nobody really seems to. but he is a proponent for something known as herd immunity which many people may not know

this term, but basically is this idea of letting people just become infected and something that the many task force members have talked about and said is a terrible idea. now, someone who's a proponent of this is in the oval office with the president talking about i. by the way, people think it's a terrible idea because in order to get to herd immunity, it would take a very long time, four years according to some models. but a lot of people would die. more than a million people would die according to dr. fauci. that's why they're against it. he is for it and spending time with the president in the oval office. >> dr. reiner, what do you think of this? >> well, he did the audition. he went on fox news on "hannity" and "tucker carlson" and "laura ingram" and said to the fox news audience exactly what the president wanted to hear. so, he's a radiologist. the people who i know who know him say that he's quite a good

neuroradiologist. and if you're having an mri of the back, he's your guy. but the president has sidelined people like tony fauci who runs the world's premiere institute for infectious disease n favor of this radiologist who promotes essentially herd immunity. to amplify what sanjay said, to get 70% of the country infected at .6% mortality, if indeed it is that low, equates to 1.4 million deaths in this country. that's what herd immunity, as advocated by dr. atlas would mean. 1.4 million deaths. >> that's also called unacceptable. gentleman, thank you both. tonight, a stunning number. 922. 922 u.s. health care workers have died of coronavirus. we honor those who courageously serve on the frontlines day in,

day out of this battle, including daniel morale is, a 39-year-old nurse from el paso, texas. daniel, his wife, and their four children, they didn't know when he went to work on july 6th, he wouldn't be returning home. he had contracted the virus while treating sick patients and he was immediately hospitalized. for 29 days, his condition fluctuated, though through it all, daniel was brave. but the virus prevailed, and it took daniel's life just days before his 40th birthday. may his memory be a blessing. "outfront" for us next, president trump is again praising a believer in the deep state and that 9/11 was a hoax. she also happens to be running for congress. >> she did very well in the election. she won by a lot. she was very popular. and kamala harris, she's a member of an exclusive group of powerful black women, the alpha

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president trump dodging a question on the qanon conspiracy theory. but really it's more of a virtual cult. earlier this week, the president congratulated republican house candidate marjorie green on her primary victory. green is a vocal supporter of the qanon cult, so the president was asked today about the group. >> green has been a proponent of the qanon conspiracy theory. she said it's something worth listening to. do you agree with her on that? >> she's done very well in the election. she won by a lot. she was very popular. she comes from a great state. and she had a tremendous victory, so i did congratulate her. >> do you agree with her on the conspiracy theory? >> ignored and ignored again. "outfront" now john kasich, the former republican governor of ohio. thank you for being here. the president very clearly is ignoring the question on purpose.

but this conspiracy group is one that pushes beliefs like top democrats and celebrities are involved in a vast sex trafficking scheme, even involved in cannibalism. what is going on in the republican party when supporters of this conspiracy theory are running for congress, all but certain to win, and republican leaders aren't denouncing her? >> well, i can tell you there has been a disruption in the u.s. house about this. there is a question about the strategy that was employed by republicans. and it shows another split unside the republican party. and so, kate, this is -- what's going on inside the party is they're trying to figure out what are they? are they the party that's dictated to by one guy, one person, the president? or are they going to begin to address issues that appeal to the majority, the growing majority in this country which are the gen-xors and the

millennials. the republican party is engaged internally about where it's going to go. if donald trump wins, that's going to have implications for the future about how people feel about his policies. if he loses, we're going to be in a situation where there will be a fight to claim the man tell of what it means to be a conservative and republican. the issues of the environment, immigration, health care, the wealth gap, all these issues have to be addressed and right now none of them are being addressed. that's a real problem for the party. not that the democrats have it all together because they're also fighting but the fighting is muted at this point. inside the republican party there's an ongoing significant debate about the future. >> add to the conversation now. i want to get your take because this distraction z that is out there now of another content, another conspiracy theory, this time against kamala harris, the president is not pushing back

when asked about this at all. what is your reaction to seeing this? do you think republicans -- >> the lady was born -- you know, it's kind of hard to say. the politics today is so crazy that people are absorbing only that that they kind of agree with. so, if you let that out there and you don't say anything, it starts to get fire going over here. she really isn't qualified. she was born in the united states of america. that's all you have to be in order to be the president of the united states which she might be if something happens to joe biden or she runs later. there's no scholars i can think of outside of one guy that's written a story that because of the world we live in has caught fire. it's absurd. it didn't work the last time. it isn't going to work this time either. that's just -- i think they're trying to throw things on the wall and see what will stick. this isn't going to stick. >> since you're talk about the struggle within the democratic

party and the struggle within the republican party that's going on. since you announced you will be speaking at the democratic convention, it has been met by applause. but some progressives are quite unhappy. they're mad that democrats -- that the convention is allowing this and that democrats like alexandria ocasio-cortez, she's only getting one minute in a pre-recorded message, and you get a speech. do you think the criticism is fair? >> i mean, i'm like -- like, in my lifetime i've always been willing to walk a lonely road and i don't pay much attention. in our country today we're so triable. for those watching that are democrats, you can't hate republicans and if you're a repr republican you can't hate democrats. sometimes we have to take off partisan hats because nothing gets achieved in this country

that is of any significance when all we do is fight with one another. that's what is happening today. the politicians are fighting and the public is fighting, kate, and like nothing i've seen. i'm doing this for a variety of reasons but somebody has to stop saying all we can do is fight and somebody has to provide space for others to go through to say let's knock this off and let's be americans before we're republicans and democrats. >> i'm looking forward to seeing your speech, governor. thank you for coming on. >> okay. thanks, kate. "outfront" next, alpha kappa alpha, the oldest black sorority in the country. members include core coretta scott king and kamala harris. why this could propel harris to the white house.

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tonight, kamala harris speaking out in her first interview as joe biden's running mate. listen. >> he decided that he was going to do that thing that was about breaking one of the most substantial barriers that has existed in our country, and that he made that decision with whatever risk that brings. >> and harris has a secret weapon in the race. she's a member of alpha kappa alpha, the oldest black sorority in the country. 300,000 members strong. kyung law is out front. >> reporter: camilkamala harris major party ticket, the first black and only third woman to do so. celebrated. >> we were all on a zoom call. >> reporter: by the sorority sisters watching one of their own step forward.

>> the whole place, everyone is screaming and crying, completely overwhelmed. over the moon, so proud. >> reporter: we met them during harris' presidential run. >> we were all just right there tonight. we were all just, you know, regular girls and now here is kamala. >> reporter: all students at howard university, a historically black college that was formed when white schools shutout black students, the women joined in 1986 becoming line sisters, aka has a national membership of 300,000 women. the first black sorority in the u.s. established more than 100 years ago. >> when you think about it, in 1908 people were just a few ticks off emancipation and now find themselves in college and what are they trying to do? it's really an uplift mission. >> reporter: bound by that history these women forge their own paths, year after year. their lives weaving together.

>> we were down at the senate. she had a formal swearing in. at the time vice president biden had sworn her in. >> this is a recent picture? >> yes, this was at her g.w. book event and we were there to support her. >> you're also aaka? >> yes, i am. >> she talked about being a member of alpha kappa alpha and the room exploded. >> those are my sororities and my fans are in the room, as well. >> you could see her her response and our response, all love. >> reporter: this isn't just a friendship or sister hood, we're talking about political power. >> we're talking about political power and we have it. we have it and we'll leverage it and you'll see it's going to make a difference. >> reporter: black voters in south carolina propelled joe biden to victory in the democratic primary. black women supported democrats more than any other voting

subgroup during her presidential run, harris reminded voters of the power of that vote from the debate stage. >> candidates have taken for granted constituencies that are the backbone of the democratic party. >> reporter: to social media. >> we can't forget what is happening to black women. >> reporter: taking the lessons of the sister hood learned decades ago to a nation today. >> it says that we can succeed and be ambitious, that we can strive to be at the boardroom table and lead where women can now aspire and say, you know, i want to be like kamala. >> you can see how important those relationships are in the aka network. but here is something else. it's also a built in network to organize and to fund raise. expand that out to the hpcu divine nine fraternities and sororities, kate and we're talking about potentially

hundreds of thousands of people. kate? >> for sure. great to see you. great piece. thank you very much. thank you-all so much for joining us tonight. i'm kate bolduan. "a krr "c ark ""ac 360" starts now. controversial changes ordered by the postmaster general that slowed down mail service by eliminating worker service and hundreds of sorting machines. according to a spokeswoman for the inspector general and aid to elizabeth warren that requested a review, the inspector general is reviewing potential ethics complaints against lewis dejoy, an ally and donor of trump and president trump came out and confirmed he was holding up a coronavirus stimulus deal over money to help the postal service. >> now they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and