hello, everybody. i'm john king. thank you so much for sharing this day with us. it is joe biden's big week and it's changed and challenged by the coronavirus. democrats open their nominating convention tonight and you will hear about the coronavirus disruption as the biden/harris ticket and allies make the case president trump's pandemic performance is a disaster. the numbers out this morning show a little promise. a weekend dip in the coronavirus case count but the daily death count over 1,000 for the 21st consecutive day.

170,000 americans in all have died from coronavirus. the president is enthusiastic about another unproven and experimental drug, an extract. the president says maybe or an ally says it would help treat the virus. it is not a medical expert urging the president to do this. it is the my pillow guy on the board of the company that makes that product. that fits with the case the democrats' case that the president and science remain strangers seven months into this pandemic. biden enters his convention week with the polling lead but beating an incumbent is a very difficult task so team biden is looking for venues to reach voters. this is a new interview with the rap star cardi b. >> the rest of the world's always looked to us. why have they looked to us? not because we're so powerful but the power of our example. look what they're seeing now with this president. he's literally promoting hatred.

promoting prejudice, racism. this is all about, all about the game of making people hate each other because that's how he wins by dividing us. you are going to change it. your generation is already doing it' always a major convention goal and the challenge made much more difficult with no packed arena, no funny hats, no con fe confetti, no balloon drops. john kasich is a republican saying the country needs democrat joe biden to end the trump chaos but the headliner is michelle obama. ream in 2016, the message when they go low, we go high and democrats appear determined to set a much tougher tone for this year's event. >> donald trump is going to do his best to raise every racist, nasty, ugly, false argument that he can.

but we are all there to support kamala harris. >> everybody gets the fact this is the most consequential election of our lifetime. >> the president seems to have a project of undermining the confidence of the american people in our own institutions in a way that undercuts democracy itself. >> let's get straight to delaware. jessica dean, wilmington, the hometown of joe biden and will not be in milwaukee but this is a giant moment, a big week for the presumptive nominee. >> reporter: yes. a pivotal moment for joe biden in his long storied history in public service, john. you have to think back 1972. he was first elected to the u.s. senate. he's run for president three times and finally made it this to moment in time and like everything else in this campaign season it is not normal. to your point we are in a parking lot in delaware. when we were supposed to be in milwaukee, wisconsin, to watch

joe biden accept this nomination. so it is a huge moment for him perm personally and professionally and we know that he will be accepting in person at the arena as well as kamala harris. now, this convention coming as you mentioned new polling out from cnn, take a look at those numbers. we see a bit of a tightening race between joe biden and president donald trump. biden leading 50% to 46%. take a look at the all-important battleground number. biden at 49% to president trump's 48% so again showing the race narrowing between when we last had some polling from cnn, john, but the democrats hoping to get a conventional convention bump. we'll see if that actually happens. you said michelle obama, john

kasich, we'll see them tonight as the democrats go remote for the 2020 convention. >> going to be fascinating to see it. joining us now to continue the conversation, host of "the ax files," david axelrod. you write today joe biden is in the strongest position of any challenger to an incumbent president in recent history. if you average our polls, we get 51% to 42%. a nine-point lead for joe biden but as you know, as you know you were in obama '08 and obama re-elect in 2012 when people thought mitt romney might have a point. we have had three two-term presidents in a row, an anomaly. what is challenge number one for joe biden with this congress veng -- convention? >> getting people to know joe

biden. people don't know that much about joe biden. they have a -- they know he was vice president under barack obama. they don't know that much about what he did as vice president. they lived with him the loss of his son beau and see people connection with people who struggled and suffered loss, that's important. but he also needs to i think, john, tease out his economic message here and make clear his vision for the future is. this convention can't be just a look back but a look forward and the economy is one place where trump has maintained a small lead in terms of people's confidence. it is important for him to lay out an economic vision during these four days. >> and opening night tonight looking at the speakers, jim

clyburn, member of the house democratic leadership. governor andrew cuomo of new york. senator klobuchar, a campaign rival. john kasich, never trump republican saying, hey republicaning, give up the trump chaos. bernie sanders, gretchen whitmer and focus on someone you know very well, michelle obama. this is the tone we heard from her at hillary clinton's convention four years ago. >> we tried to guide and protect our girls through the challenges of this unusual life in the spotlight. how we urge them to ignore those who question their father's citizenship or faith, how we explain that when someone is cruel or acts like a bully you don't stoop to their level. no, our motto is when they go low we go high.

>> what do you expect to hear from the former first lady tonight? they chose to make her the headliner on night one and clearly thinks she is very important here. >> look. she is a best-selling author. someone who people relate to, particularly women. and so, i expect you will hear more of the same. i think michelle obama is a -- she is very frank, she speaks her mind. she speaks with great passion. and i expect that, you know, though i said earlier that the goal is to boost biden and i think you will hear that in all the speeches tonight reads to me like a recitation of indictment about the crisis we're in. and then they're going to turn the corner and talk about how we get out of them and biden is the key to that and i think she will

come with a tough critique of what we have seen in the last four years, that's my suspicion. they have given -- i understand they have given her quite a bit of time in the context of a virtual convention so they're betting a lot on michelle obama and i can tell you from my own experience she is a very good performer in these kinds of settings so i think she will be outspoken, blunt about where we are and i think she will embrace biden and tell people why he is a contrast to what we have. >> you are one of the few people to speak to, karl rove would be on the other side, in a top leadership position in a campaign that's won two presidential elections. what are your takeaways of having watched 2016 and now in 2020 what is the single biggest lesson the democrats need to learn? >> don't allow your opponent to define you. make sure you fill in the gaps and this convention is very

important. john, you only get a few times in a whole campaign when you gather an audience of the size of the democrats have for four days. it is an essential task for them to not only define who trump is because i think that is well understood by people but really define who biden is and where democrats want to lead and a clearer sense of that coming up because next week he is going to be torn apart by republicans, the road to re-election for donald trump is to try to destroy joe biden. this week is all about fortifying him and giving people a clear sense of a way out of the kind of crisis that we are in right now and making him the hero of that story. >> david axelrod, appreciate you time and insights today r. don't miss the first night of the democratic national convention. coverage starts 8:00 p.m. eastern live on cnn. up next, "operation warp speed" slowing down? why some vaccine trials could be

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from a public health perspective. more than 170,000 coronavirus deaths here in the united states. take a look at the other trends as we begin the week. 13 states higher case count now opposed to a week ago. 13 states up higher. 16 states holding steady. 21 states in the green. they are trending down. if you look compared to a week ago the map not in as good shape as a week ago. 16 steady and a majority heading down. statewide, state by state. death trend, 15 states in red and orange going up. 20 holding steady. 15 states in the green heading down. death count lags the case count. we do know this. over time here's the interesting question as we begin the work week. yesterday 42,000 cases reported. that is down from recenter days

but you can see sundays over the weekend often you get a lower number on a sunday and then back up. here's the challenge through this work week. this is a high baseline in case counts. can it be shoved down? we'll watch that. this is coronavirus testing. june, yes, more tests in the united states and flattened out to 800,000 tests a day. the administration says that's good, enough. surge them when necessary. the positivity rate. right now national average in the country 5.5% nationally. state by state, different rates but nationally 5.5% positive. 2 1/2 months ago 5%. that's not a giant spike but the goal to push this down. when it was at 5% it is higher. still an issue in positivity. again, the white house says especially its testing czar says

things are better. this is a public health expert. >> the testing situation is not good in the united states. what we're not picking up are people who are contagious. that's the right word to use. probably missing 8 out of 10 people contagious and any decrease in testing is worrisome because we're already not doing well. >> with me now is dr. yasmin. doctor, it is good to see you. i want to start where we're all going through this, this struggle of back to school, the calendar to move into later august coming up on the fall and listen here to the former surgeon general saying we better be careful because if things are bad now, when flu season comes it's more complicated. >> the symptoms will be hard to distinguish and because of the challenges ongoing with testing capacity it may take us a while

to figure out with a person with a fever has covid or something else which means if people isolated for longer and harder to keep workplaces and schools open. >> help us understand that challenge. a stubborn high coronavirus case baseline and the flu season right around the corner. >> so, john, we really worry about the two epidemics and pandemics converging because in an average pretty bad flu season just dealing with flu alone that in and of itself can start to overwhelm the american health care system. factor into that a pandemic that we have not been able to get under control for the last five, six, seven months and that's why the cdc director dr. redfield is saying we cob looking at the worst fall in american history and other thing to bear in mind is saying for months the rates of infection and covid-19 serious disease in children are very low but that data's been

coming when kids have not been at school. they have been at home. they have been sheltering in place. what we are seeing now as kids start to return to school is irn creasing numbers of cases of covid-19 and clusters. but it affects people at university, as well. so less than a week into the fall semester at university of north carolina at chapel hill we are already seeing four clusters of covid-19. oklahoma state university an entire sorority house is quarantined an enth quarantined and then about 700 cases in the state with cases or clusters of covid-19 and challenging to manage this in the context of increasing numbers of hotspots. parents watching this with a difficult debate and decision whether to send you kid back to school, depends on local covid-19 transmission and if rates are high where you live that just increases the

likelihood of there being covid-19 outbreaks when your kid returns to school. >> and so we are watching that play out and the pictures make you shake your head at knucklehead behavior. we wouldn't have worry as much and this is north georgia university on saturday night. a large crowd there. we wouldn't have to worry if we had a vaccine but we don't know where we are in that and explain why this is important, the recruiting for u.s. covid vaccine trials, 10% are black or latino and we know that about half of the cases, more than half of the cases have been in black and latino americans. why does that matter? >> it's really pompimportant pe in clinical trials for vaccine represent the general population because you don't want to be in a situation, john, which is typical where something like a vaccine makes its way through

the clinical trials but 90% of the people who it was tested on were white, young, healthy. your wa you want to know how it protects people from different backgrounds and seeing that covid-19 is disproportionately affecting and killing people from communities of color so those people do need to be included in the trials. people of color, black americans have not been included in trials because of these legacies of unethical experimentations so it's on us in medicine in public health to build those bridges with communities of color and say, look, theese are going to e safe trials to know that the vaccine will protect not just some americans but all americans. >> grateful for your insights. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, the president denyin

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the house is interrupting a planned august recess to challenge postal system changes the democrats say are designed

to undermine mail-in voting. speaker nancy pelosi in a letter to house democrats says alarmingly we see the devastating affects of the president's campaign to sabotage the election by manipulating the postal service. chuck schumer want it is senate to come back, too, but that decision is with leader mitch mcconnell and he said the postal service is going to be just fine. cnn's phil mattingly is following this controversy. phil, what will the democrats do? >> reporter: they're going to have a multi-pronged approach and had a prooit conference call with the caucus. speaker nancy pelosi, majority leader steny hoyer with the details of the legislation to vote on, on saturday, and the weekend vote in the middle of the recess sandwiched between

the two national nominating conventions will occur and the bill will block changes to the u.s. postal service starting at the beginning of this year through the end of this year or the end of the pandemic and it would also include $25 billion to deal with some of the fiscal issues that the u.s. postal service has had and the investigative side. the house oversight committee announcing of a hearing next week on this issue inviting the postmaster general and no response if that will occur and house democrats say if they don't want to come and comply with the invitation participates we should subpoena them. where does it end up? underscores two key points here. so many mail-in votes are expected to occur and also it's a potent political issue, the democrats are very clearly

seizing on knowing how much people care and recognize their own post offices, this is a diff making sure it is in the forefront from here on out, john. >> phil mattingly, appreciate that. state election officials carry the burden of helping people vote amid this controversy not to mention amid a pandemic. with me is alabama secretary of state john marel. some things have a political tinge to them as you well know. this is the july primary. we have pictures of you casting an absentee ballot. youov you over see the elections. >> we want the post office to

run properly and it hasn't for many years. >> are you worried about people getting medications? >> the post office is running very well. >> is the post office running very well in your view with a look toward the elections? 46 states putt on notice by the post office saying we might not be able to process your ballots in time. do you think the post office is okay? >> john, thank you for having me as a guest. everybody knows the post office is one of the most inefficient and ineffective entities that exist at the national level. it is definitely the one that most people come in contact with on a daily basis. there are concerns with the post office, not new concerns. first time that anything was introduced to me about the concerns with the post office as far as voting happened in california in april 2016. that's why when we passed our legislation in 2019 to revise

the absentee process we enabled the voters to return their ballots by using fedex, u.p.s. or other recognized carriers because there are concerns. >> so i want to ask your help here. i covered politics a long time and the secretaries of state normally try to operate in a bipartisan basis. you have an association. compare notes, learn from each other, borrow from each other, you learn from each other's mistakes. listen to democrats who they look at the white house and they think that the president is trying to put his thumb on the scale. >> the damage he's doing is to really the fabric of the democracy. we have peaceful transfer of power between parties and have done so successfully since our founding because people have faith that the final result reflects the will of the people and he is trying to damage that belief and it is incredibly harmful. >> i think it's shameful to the

extent that people in the administration are going to sabotage this election. >> help me, sir. just people out there are confused and we are in a political season and people have to do their own homework to filter out the partisanship. do you see aefrt by this administration to sabotage the election? >> well, john, i don't speak on behalf of the administration but anyone that votes by mail should feel secure about voting by mail through the absentee process in the state of alabama. we think it's important for people to be educated about what the concerns are related to that. that's why i eancourage our voters. to go ahead and apply for an absentee ballot now to vote through the absentee process now so they will not be concerned about whether or not their vote is actually counted for the candidate of their choice. we think that's very important.

but the day to be concerned about that is not october 25th, 29th or november 2nd. it is 73 days before the last day to make application for your absentee ballot. >> i think that is an excellent point whether you're a democrat or republican listening to the secretary of state in alabama. sir, quickly, the president said mail-in voting you are inviting fraud. is that your experience in alabama? >> only concerns we have seen have come through the absentee ballot process. we have had five convictions on voter fraud in the absentee area and three elections overturned and directly related to participation. we want people to know that our process is safe and secure and want them to cast the ballot for the candidate of their choice and one time and continue to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. >> amen to that. jon merrill, secretary of state

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a new saliva test for the coronavirus held out as a potential game changer developed by yale university and orr the weekend the food and drug administration issued emergency authorization for its use. shantel vogels is a leader on the team that developed this test. i'm excited to have this conversation so i was looking at sol of the pre-interview work

you did and saliva, spit in the cup and get it to the lab and know in three hours? >> that is correct. saliva is way faster, safer and more comfortable to use as a sample type so this is really going to be huge in increasing the testing capacity. >> that is amazing. some of the other tests there have been questions about the accuracy. how accurate is this test? >> we have compared our saliva samples to nasal swabs and 94% positive agreement. >> 94%. talk to me about scaling this up. you have obviously during your research i'm sure you're tracking the news and had issues with states not having enough tests and dealt with the frustrating stories about it takes eight days, ten days, 14 days for results and useless. how quickly can you scale this up? >> we think we can quickly scale this up because testing is going

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kamala harris knows her past work as a prosecutor worries some progressives including fellow black voters. her pitch look at the big issue. >> you may not fall in love with who you're voting for but if you just look in on a piece of paper at the issues impacting you every day or look at who's going to pay attention to whether the black community is going to have equal access to a vaccine when it's created and you'll know there is so much on the line in this election. >> let's get perspective from principal of the black to the future fund and a comounder of the black lives movement. thank you for being with us on

this important moment. i just warrant nt to show the v, this is you six years ago after the tragic killing of tamir rice in cleveland who was shot by a white police officer. you know in these marches so many of the people to them prosecutor is a dirty word and yet you have had a recent conversation with senator harris. >> i want to be super clear that senator harris has been in relationship with movement for a while, and you know, to say that does not mean that there aren't valid criticisms of her record, that there isn't more that she could be doing and not to speak for all activists who may or may not vote in this election cycle but what i can say is that we have had several conversations with senator harris about a range of policy issues, some things that we pushed her on and other things that we had complete alignment around. and so i think she is right when

she say that is voting is an opportunity for us to engage with the world that we want to see. it's one path. i think there are a lot of people who are very clear about that and a lot of people who want to see more from her and that is actually okay. in a functional democracy is we push candidates and she should be held accountable, she should continue to be supported in coming the right position on the issues we care about and we should also acknowledge where she is close or actually gone further than we thought and i think that's a blabs here and what black voters in particular consider as we move into the 2020 election cycle. >> honest conversation is the best thing any of us can have. especially on difficult issues. kamala harris would be the vice president if this victim wins the election. joe biden would be the president. a year ago you spoke to my

colleague van jones about some of your questions about the former vice president. let's listen. >> what's going to prevent me from or encourage me to vote for someone is somebody to talk to me to the issues from the way i experience them and tell the truth if their mind changed about their stances that they may have taken 20 years ago. >> you mentioned the conversation with senator harris. how about the former vice president soon to be democratic presidential nominee joe biden? is he convincing people like yourself that he has an open mind and that, yes, he's changed his mind from some of the things he may have done 20 or 25 years ago? >> i'll say this. the selection of senator harris as the vice president to run with joe biden on the top of the ticket is the right choice. i think that we have just recently started to engage with the biden campaign and there is still some work to be done

although we are very excited about some of the event additions to the campaign that have done a lot of work to reach out to us, to engage us and to talk with us about -- with real talk about the issues that folks are movable on and some of the other issues that they're not. again, in our approach to elections and electoral organizing we are super clear. in this case, senator harris being selected to run with former vice president biden at the top of the ticket was a good choice and in part because i think that there were a lot of questions with the biden campaign in terms of their engagement and positions on issues that are important to black communities. i can, however, say that they have reached out to have some more conversations specifically about the policy agenda they released not too long ago. my organization released a black agenda for 2020 that looks at how to make black lives matter

from city hall to congress and we've done a side by side comparison of the lift every voice plan and the black agenda 2020 and still some gaps there and also still less than 80 days that we have to be able to get these candidates closer to the issues impacting people every single day and that's the work we'll be engaged in moving forward. >> grateful for your time today. we'll check in with you. thanks again for joirnining us. a major election postponed because of, yes, the coronavirus. flexball five blades and a g designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. so you're ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face.

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protect him with all your heart. simparica trio. the coronavirus pandemic is raging in peru. the country added more than 10 thousands cases to the total just on sunday. peru is overtaken mexico with second highest number of confirmed cases in latin america. in new zealand, the coronavirus delayed a major election. >> i'm will ripley in hong kong. new zealand has fewer than 100 active cases of coronavirus right now and yet the country has decided that it will delay its national elections by more than a month out of concerns about the general public's health. the prime minister who was praised for the quick response to the pandemic in the early days a response that led to the nation declared itself covid-19

tree for 102 days up until the new cluster detected in new zealand's largest city of auckland. spread to now dozens of cases but again still fewer than 100 cases, 9 new cases reported on monday. in new zealand they're extending the lockdown in auckland with police check points, schools closed and they're testing tens of thousands of people to isolate all of the cases that exist in the country, get them out of the general population and until those numbers get back to that magic number of zero the government feels it woerntd be safe to hold a general election and this is not about politics or the economy. it's about public health the prime minister says. the party was expected to do well in the upcoming elections, specifically because of its effective response to the pandemic. thanks for joining us today. i'll be here tonight, join us

cnn special coverage out traitic national convention at 8:00 p.m. eastern here. anderson cooper picks up the coverage right now. have a good day. i'm anderson cooper. welcome viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. more than 1,000 americans on average died from the coronavirus pandemic. it's now the number three cause of death in the united states as the nation sets grim new milestones. at least 170,000 americans have now died the virus, 18 days ago that number was 150,000. while new u.s. cases are at the lowest levels since late june 13 states are now showing an upward trend as a new school year ramps up with developments at the college campuses. at the university of north carolina in chapel hill four clusters found just this weekend alone. three in dorms, the other in a fraternity houses.