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animals, yet the mypillow person is calling it a cure. >> sir, you've seen this test but where is it? >> the tests are out there. phase two -- >> show it to us. >> i don't have the test on me. >> who did the test? what university? what doctor? >> well, i guess you'd have to have dr. carson and the company that all the tests were done. >> you read the tests. where was it done? >> on over 1,000 people. >> where was it done and what were the procedures? >> the procedures are it was used against cancer. when you do a safety test phase one, phase two, it's to see -- >> there's been no phase one and phase two. >> absolutely there has. the fda has had it since april. >> he sits on the board of this
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bio tech company and gains to benefit financially. barbara starr at the pentagon. one of the places to have testsed is at an army lab. that is no longer the case. explain what's gone on. >> reporter: well, i talked to officials at the army lab and here's what they are very happy to have the public know. they were very open about it. they did look at testing oleander extract and they did in a laboratory and put it in the culture dish and see if it had any impact against the virus, any ability to kill cells and the results were inconclusive, is the polite way of putting it. they could not have any conclusion it had any impact whatsoever. so, they rapidly moved on. because right now in the u.s. military research, medical research, community, they are moving very rapidly to what they
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think might have some efficacy to what might work and when they looked at oleander and they tell me they conducted multiple tests within the government and with contractors, they could find no conclusive evidence that it had any benefit whatsoever. inconclusive results is the world we got from the u.s. army today. and the u.s. army has decades and decades of researcher, experts in infectious disease around the world. because of course the military deploys around the world. so, they are very expert in looking at this and they're working really closely with the civilian sector on trying to find therapeutics that actually do factualy work. the army aware of this other research, that there's been tests in monkey, for example but no verified --
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>> they used monkey cells in a test tube and that is the -- what they claim -- it's an unpublished study, not peer reviewed, never been published. that's the one study that's out there. and two of the people who wrote the study are actually -- have a financial stake in this little company that is pushing this unproven substance. great -- i'm glad you were able to -- that they were so forthcoming and said they looked at it, no proof. and they moved on. >> quickly, anderson. the u.s. military were happy to tell me that they have moved on. >> barbara starr, appreciate it. want to reset our coverage,
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more than 170,000 dead from the coronavirus. and a poll found 55% of people believe the worst is yet to come. 40% believe the worst is behind us. even as the number of new cases on the decline in 20 states, compared to a week ago and a return to prepandemic life, dr. anthony fauci is talking about a race. to a vaccine. >> having a vaccine is different from proving a vaccine is safe and effective. we have six vaccines now. we haven't proven them yet to be safe and effective. when we do, then we can accurately say we feel comfortable distributing a vaccine to hundreds of millions of people. but before and until you prove it's safe and effective, you really don't want to be talking about having a vaccine. >> the "the new york times"
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reports dr. fauci and other health officials have stepped in to halt an emergency use treatment involving donated plasma by coronavirus survivors. explain what is the sticking point here. because a lot of people drew a lot of hope from this blood plasma idea. >> so much hope. people who survive from the coronavirus give their plasma to people who are sick and they see it if it works and sometimes they do get better. but is is there data behind it? did they get better because of the plasma? there is some concern this data is murky, that it's not really clear if this treatment works. and that's why there's been a hold put on any fda authorization for plasma treatment. >> now, if a vaccine is approved a new report shows who's likely to get it first.
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>> so, in this new report looks at who should be getting this first and the new report says frontline workers. and a lot of people agree it should be people at greatest risk for having complications. >> there's also the question of whether people are going to get vaccinated. cnn has a new poll out. >> it shows pretty bad news. and so, let's take a look at this. i think this is sobering for anyone working on the vaccine. we polled people august 12th through 15th and asked if you would get a coronavirus vaccine and only 56% said yes and 40% said no. it is going to be hard to reach levels of immunity with only 40% taking the vaccine. and we asked the same question in may. 66% said yes.
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now only 56% say yes. that's a 10-point drop in a matter of a few months. it's interesting because the antivaccine people have been really hard at work. you just have to turn to your facebook feed, filling facebook with lies about this vaccine that seems to have been effective. so far there is no organized government pro-vaccine campaign. so, in some ways, not shocking this is happening. >> thank you very much. joining me is currently an adviser to joe biden and served as the ebola zar. you see numbers of people saying they woulden't get a vaccine if it's available. it's surprising, perhaps not so surprising, given conspiracy theories and the like but it's alarming. >> it's very alarming, for two reasons. first, as your correspondent just noted. the way vaccines work, we get a shot, we're protected.
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but there's some people who can't get a vaccine. so, the way we protect populations is having high levels of overall vaccinations and having 80 to nienlt% vaccination rates. so, if we can't get it up significantly higher, the vaccine is going to protect a few, not all of us. secondly is look, it's not really a surprise. in adhiegz existing antivaccine movement, we've had a series of misinformation from the president. he's touting hydroxychloroquine and mr. lindel touting this false medicine you debunked. the president stirs the pot and doubts scientists t feeds this existing sentiment and makes public uncertainty about these vaccines even worse. >> it was interesting the same cnn poll, americans were asked
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if they were proud or embarra embarrassed of the coronavirus figures and 68% said embarrassed. >> let's talk about how people should feel about our response. yesterday the five largest countries in europe, which have about the same population as united states, those five countries combined, they had 60 deaths from covid. we have 1300 deaths from covid. so, if they can get it under control, it's underable people in the u.s. are embarrassed and horrified by our response and i think that's how people should feel. there's no reason why europe, which faced the same crisis we did in the spring is now at a handful of deaths and we're still seeing over a thousand deaths per day in the united states. >> how do you describe dr. fauci's role right now?
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he seems to be talking more as an observer when it comes to the federal response? >> i think it's -- he's largely ignored, consulted rarely and having to offer his views as an outside observer. he is our nation's best infectious disease expert. when i ran the ebola response, he was our chief medical advisor. i talked to tony almost every single day. five prior presidents counted on dr. fauci. there's no better person to have in that job but it only works if the president is willing to listen to him and i hope he does. joe biden said the day he's elected president, one of the first phone calls he's going to make is to dr. anthony fauci. i think that would make a lot of americans feel better. >> the president criticized the handling of the swine flu
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outbreak, calling it a disaster. you said this could have been a mass casualty event but luck was on your side. >> yeah, the point i was making about that is the vaccine, in that case, took much longer to develop than we wanted it to. we put in place tracing, the things to get it under control. it's sad that 13,000 americans died in a 13-month period from h1n1. obviously 10070,000 death said in six months is a completely different kind of failure by the trump administration. once more, we never had to close down the economy, close down schools. so, we were able to put in place, testing, tracing, all these things. the vaccine did take longer than we wanted it to with h1n1. i'm glad to see the effort to get a vaccine quickly on this disea disea disease but the trump
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administration's touting uncertainty, and people not being able to accept the vaccine when it is proven safe and effectival. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. anderson. second wave being blamed on two hotels. plus the president wants people to stop buying goodyear tires. and a week after the supporter of the bizarre anti-semitic qanon conspiracy theory won a primary and another biggeded conspiracy theorist wins another one in florida. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing.
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well, lower lumer is a far-right activist and now a winner in a congressional primary. she's a self-described, quote, islamaphobe and called islam a cancer by society. was banned from twitter after calling congresswoman omar antijewish. and she also travelled to parkland, florida, the week after the 2018 shooting that killed people, and accused the survivors of being puppets. that district also includes trump's mar-a-lago resort. the president is congratulating her on the victory, just one week after he congratulated margery green, who openly backed the bizarre qanon conspiracy theory, which thinks democratic leaders are satanests and running an international kabal
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of sex traffickers who drink children's blood. she won the primary. joined by "the new york times" opinions columnist, amanda carpenter. amanda, let me start with you. we're seeing trump embrace fringe candidates. he called the qanon conspiracy theorist a future star of the republican party. >> well, heres t's the thing. donald trump and misinformation, disinformation, grievance and conspiracy go hand in hand. you really can't support trump and his style of politics without also supporting that. and so, that has naturally created a big vacuum in the republican party from, into thez congressional seats. you see people who can't abide by that kind of style politics leaving the party, and so what
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fills that gap are candidates like laura lumer and margery green, who do embrace conspiracy theories and grievance, and they automatically get support from the president. it is a very direct shot where they can claim power in a way they never could have before. >> frank, laura, it's a -- she's in a district that votes democrat, so it's unlikely she will get to congress. the other, the qanon one from georgia, there's a good chance she will get to congress. >> yes, margery join will probably join her caucus and they'll talk about the qanon caucus. this has been a big week for the lunetic qanon party. and while laura won in part because there were a high level of republicans running in the
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primaries, i think this still matters in a big spiritual sense. florida is a key battleground state with 25 key electoral votes. i don't think beyond that -- beyond this primary, beyond that district, in terms of how florida votes on and before november third, i don't think this is going to help donald trump win that state. i don't think this is going to make him appealing to swing voters. but he seems to have embraced a strategy of trying to jin oplimited base as much as he can and he seems to be abandoning the center entirely. >> i mentioned that president trump had called the qanon conspiracy theorist the future star of the republican party and i think scott said it was an asa9 comment he made and this is
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not the fucher of the republican party. but if it remains trump's party, it is the future. >> i do think this will be donald trump's political legacy. it's a mat ter of what degree. he explicitly caudals and cultivates this kind of thinking. what he picks up to directly appeal to that audience. and so, this isn't an accident. all these conspiracy theories, he's been touting since he launched his presidential campaign have consequences. and we're all suffering through it. it's no coincidence that with all the medical and political disinformation that we're suffering through an incredible politicized pandemic. people can pretend that this is just stuff donald trump says, but it has real consequence in our lives. >> yeah, frank, i mean, it's easy to -- when you look at what the qanon believers -- it's like
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a cult, when you look at what they're actually believing about -- i mean, it's so bizarre. it's like going down a crazy rabbit hole. it's easy to make fun of it when you first see it but there are people who have shown up with guns at pizza parlors. the the guy in d.c. showed up with a automatic weapon at a pizza parlor thinking he was there to rescue children and there are no children being held captive in this pizza parlor. it does have real-world consequences. >> yeah, we can't make fun of it. there may thought be many believers in any one conspiracy theory culture. there's a connection between welcoming margery green to congress when she comes and telling people they can't trust
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the election is legitimate or there's voter fraud here and there. he wants to create an information ecosystem that's so polluted and he wants people to distrust so many things that he can then fill that vacuum with whatever he wants them to believe. this is all of the piece. >> frank rooney, amanda carpenter, thank you very much. president trump urging his twitter followers to boycott an american company. attention veterans with va loans.
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president trump is calling for a boycott of goodyear because a employee claimed not to be allowed to wear a maga apparel to work. blue lives matter, all lives matter and maga attire is not. goodzeer says the slide was not created by their corporate office and ask from employees to refrain from political expressions. they support both equality and law enforcement and will continue to do so. still, the president arguing this is his chance to fight back against the cancel culture of the left. it's not lost on us that he's
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one of the founders of cancel culture. look at some of the companies he's called to boycott over the years, starting with his favorite medium, tv, he's called for entire networks to be boycott undercluding hbo and cnn. he didn't like cnbc after he was left off the list of most influential business leaders. he singled out fox personalities, karl rove, megyn kelly and the national review writers. for a president who likes to tell us how much he reads, he has called for boy kauts of "wall street journal" editorial board, "u.s.a. today" for declaring him unfit for office. and he's called to fire everyone from nfl players to deborah messing, who played grace along side will. and threatened harley davidson and called to boycott a whiskey
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brand because he wasn't chosen as top scott of the year. and he refused to sell his land to make way for a golf course and threatened to shut down social media companies, like twitter. and he once called on americans to boycott mexico. don lemon, host of "cnn tonight." with me now. and the company has a long-standing relationship with the secret service and the u.s. military. what do you make of this call to boycott a big american company? >> he's the biggest snowflake of them all. i should mention he has criticized me, you, my colleagues, called for the cancellation of cnn, and he tried to get involved in the at&t merger. so, he's a hypocrite when it comes to counter culture and it's because he's afraid he is about to be cancelled by the
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american people. listen, we shouldn't be surprised that this president is a hypocrite. we shouldn't be surprised that he is making something political that's not and we shouldn't be surprised he's a bigged. those aren't opinions. those are facts. >> it's what companies wrestle with all the time. goodyear saying this wasn't a corporate policy but in a presentation. whether it's maga attire or pride flag, what do you make of that? >> well, i think there's a difference between equality and politics, something being political. there is nothing, i believe, that should be inherently political about black lives matter or pride flag. that has to do with equal protection under the kaungsitution as a citizen of the united states.
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the right to wear a political shirt or hat in the workplace, i think it's protected in the constitution and no one should want to wear that and workplaces have rules. you have rules what you can wear to work. i can't wear certain things on the air because my boss and company deems it so. i think there's a big difference between something political and something that has to do with equality. i would not want to wear an obama shirt to work. i would not want to wear a make america great again hat to work because it shows my political stripes. everyone is free to do that. i don't think you should be able to wear anything you want to work. there are certain rules and when you get politics in the workplace, it starts trouble. remember, they started turning televisions off in gyms because people were having fights, anderson. >> i want to ask about the lakers, wearing their own red
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hat with a slogan that said make america arrest the cop whose killed brianna taylor. it's interesting how the red hat has become such a political flash point. >> i have a red hat. i don't wear it anymore because people think i'm wearing a maga hat. that's my choice not to wear it. i think that hat conjures up a certain feeling. many wear it, they say, out of pride, and others as an in-your-face sort of thing. this is my president and i believe what he believes. i think it's interesting the nba and lebron james picked up on that to make a statement. and you cannot be offended by lebron james and professional athletes or nba players wearing a a red hat that says make america arrest the cops that killed brianna taylor and not be
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offended by a maga hat. i think it's smart. i want to weigh in on the conversation you had previously because you're talking about qanon conspiracy theories and on and on. when you see the bigotry on the internet and the conspiracy theories about qanon and about jeffrey epstein. there's a picture of me on the internet where someone has superimposed the face of jeffrey epstein over the face of criss cuomo and i hanging out and there are people who actually believe it. people say not all trump supporters are bigots and racists. okay, fine. but when i look at all the people who put those things on the internet, 99 times out of 100 it is a trump supporter. people should think about that.
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>> there's a fake flight manifest that has -- >> you're on it. >> i'm allegedly on it. if you want to see who is on that flight, there are court documents and there's a handful of people whose hands you might know who were, who were ever on any flights of his, allen dershowitz, who i think was doing legal work. bill clinton went to africa. but again, this flight list -- qanon, it's trafficking in age-old anti-semitic, anticatholic, anti-immigrant troupes. there's this kabal of jewish bankers controlling the world monetary system. it's essentially kind of an offshoot of that, saying this is a kabal of sex traffickers who drink the blood of children and worship satan. it's insane. >> and the president condones it and promotes it and gives
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authority to it. i think the best line of the week so far may have been overlooked and that was the former first lady's line, when she gave her speech and said it is what it is. and i said that sums up the whole time we're in. it's a very concise way of saying it is what it is and we all know what it is. >> are you on three hours? >> i'm on until 3:00 a.m. i raced in here. you should have seen me. get in there. >> appreciate it. midnight to 3:00 tonight. the nation's college campuses are taking another look at reopening plans and the surge in cases as kids head back to school. and a nurse who cared for coronavirus patients has herself died from the virus. her co worker join sas.
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mullple institutions going fully online after a spike in cases on students and faculty. and assad is a senior, which resumed in-person classes today and writer for the school's paper. how are you feeling about being back on campus? do you feel safe? >> yv rrb been taking precautions, i've been wearing a mask and haven't had any in-person classes yet and all of mine have been assigned to be ehybrid. so far on campus i've seen about two-thirds of students have been wearing masks and a thrird haven't been wearing them. some on their neck and some don't have them but majority of
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students so far are wearing masks. >> they announced 26,000 students have tested, less than 1% are positive. proof of a negative test is required. i think six students are in quarantine. what protections has the school put in place? >> the university is having two dorms. they're going to quarantine those students and stutdants that have been exposed and live on campus, they're going to try to keep students with covid-19 in those dorms and recommend to students in contact with somebody with covid-19 to stay in their dorms or relocate to another quarantine location. students who don't live on campus have been doing health checks. so, you get asked every day do you have symptoms or have you been in contact with someone with covid-19?
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>> i know you tweeted a photo on sunday of students waiting to get into a bar with the caption, who wants college sports this fall? obviously not these people. we have to do better for each other and our campus community. please wear your masks. have there been large gatherings like that on or off campus? >> it wads a good day where new sorority members used their house. so, those long lines are waiting to get insided the bars. bars are supposed be 50 to 60% capacity and employees are supposed to wear masks. good day, especially, students were having members take large class photos. so, there are between 80 and 100 new members on wearing masks and
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in tightly to take that class photo, and then there were parents and family members that wanted to see their daughters. and good news is probably the biggest cluster on campus so far. >> the world health organization warned young people they're not invincible when it comes to covid-19. i mean, obviously everybody has different opinions. but what attitude exists among your peers about covid, about what precautions to take? >> so, it's rather split. there are some students very concerned about their health. they have underlying health conditions or know someone who does and want to take the precautions to keep them safe. they're only going out for class or to go get grocery shopping. and there are other students who say, while we're going to be in covid anyway, and as long as i wear my mask when going to the
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restaurant, i don't see why i shouldn't be able to go into a restaurant or bar. so, it's been pretty split. >> i really appreciate your time. best of luck to you. stay safe and i hope the school year continues. >> yeah, anderson. thanks for having me. >> contact tracing has worked in other countries, and not widespread in the u.s., certainly not as much as it should be. much hoar on our breaking news. one of the most promising trials suffered a setback. and also a nurse who cared for up to 50 coronavirus patients a day has died from the virus. (ringing)
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. medical workers in augusta, georgia are mourning the loss of a nurse at the medical center. yolanda corp worked at the center for 13 years. georgia has been criticized for handling the pandemic. yesterday reporting 3,000 new cases and 69 new deaths. following another scathing report from the tank force saying georgia had the highest rate of cases ending august 14th and continues to be in the red zone. this is the chief medical officer of the augusta university health system. our condolences to you and the staff. could you tell me about yolanda. >> yolanda was a fantastic nurse
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leader. she had been with us for about 13 years an rich through the ranks and became a nurse manager for two different units in the facility. she was a bright, shining example of what a nurse leader should be. and was just loved by her colleagues. her motto was be exceptional and she lived that every day. >> it's got to be terrifying for all medical personnel and people who work in hospitals, but to then have somebody like yolanda who was treating patients and then herself getting sick, it's got to be incredibly frightening. >> it is frightening. and our staff are working incredibly hard to take care of covid patients in spite of that. i had covid-19 myself and recovered. i was one of the fortunate ones. and we have had several other
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staff members that became ill. this would be our third staff member that we've lost to covid-19. and it is a sad time for the team. but overall the team is working incredibly hard. providing excellent care in spite of all of that. >> and what are you seeing in the hospitals? the flow of patients? >> well, luckily we are starting to see our numbers decline. both at our facility and in georgia, we are coming down off of a peak and i'll tell you that the peak has been a bit of a challenge. it has stretched our staff, stretched our facility. but i'm pleased that we appear to be coming down off of that peak and appear to be over it and numbers declining. we've had a seven day average new cases in georgia down 26%. statewide our hospitalizations over the past week or so are down about 19% or 20%. augusta has been lagging a little bit behind the state in terms of the decline, but we're
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starting to see numbers decline now and that is a welcome respite for our staff. we would love to see them continue to decline. >> when a doctor, when medical personnel gets covid-19, what is the protocol? what happens? >> yeah, well, we have a whole protocol. we follow the cdc guidance for how people go into isolation, how long they have to be in isolation, a testing protocol, et cetera. and for health care providers in particular, we do universal masking so that we reduce exposure potential. luckily we don't see a lot of patient to nurse or physician or physician or nurse to patient transmission of covid, it mostly occurs outside or at the break room or outside of the work setting is where the majority of the cases that we've seen in our health care providers occurring. >> doctor, appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me.
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a top official saying to folks in their 20s and younger, you are not invincible and your lives an the lives of others depend upon the decisions you make. decisions about wears masks and congregating and hygiene. this comes as schools and universities are trying to confront increased cases after holding in-person classes during the pandemic. already notre dame, michigan state and unc kapel hill has all been forced to shut down classes week news the semester. more than 100 cases have been reported from each university. nationwide the u.s. surpassed 5.5 million confirmed cases of coronavirus just minutes ago. a new poll revealed that seven in ten people feel embarrassed and an understandable emotion given that the u.s. with about 4% of the world's population continues to have about a quarter of all reported infections around the world and more than 20% of all the world's
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