he enjoyed sharing stories about black history. he and his wife gene celebrated their 50th an yes, sir ri in march. thanks for watching. i'll be back tomorrow night for a special edition of "the situation room." 7:00 p.m. eastern. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, the influential model off cited by the white house now projecting 310,000 americans could die by december as top experts at the world health organization warn of new outbreaks. joe biden and kamala harris speaking tonight in their first tv interview, harris firing back at trump's attacks in which hec. the chief justice of the florida sre court during the 2000 recount with a major warning tonight. let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm erin burnett.

"outfront" tonight, that grim new projection. the model off cited by the white house now predicts the united states death toll could reach 310,000 deaths by the beginning of december. that's up 15,000 from its previous forecast just two weeks ago, 15,000 individual lives lost. experts say that number could -- the number could be cut by almost 70,000, okay, from 300,000 if people just wore masks. and yet today, this was the message from the president. >> in everything we do, my administration is fighting for the american people and delivering one victory after another. >> one victory after another. everything he does. tone deaf words at best right now, of course, but also factually wrong when it comes to the pandemic. 175,000 american deaths is nothing to ever call a victory. here are the facts. united states has more dead people than any other country in the world than coronavirus.

4% of the world's population lives in the u.s. and our death toll is 25% of the global toll. as a share of the population, the united states doesn't trail the countries we talk about in europe and asia. the u.s. is doing worse in places like iraq and iran. and trump is declaring one victory after another, comes just hours after the latest projection which projects 310,000 deaths by december. so, we did the math. that calculates to more than 1,000 deaths on average every single day for every day of the next 3 1/2 months. and the cdc says the one thing that could stop this from happening is masks and social distancing. >> this is why it's so important for middle america to recognize mitigation steps that we talked about, about masks, social distancing, hand washing, closing bars, being smart about crowds. >> be smart. in fact, just to be loud and clear about this, i want to say it again. the model used by the white

house says that 70,000 of those 310,000 lives could be saved if people wear masks. so, did the commander in chief act smartly today? did he do that today? no. and not only did he not do that, he held an indoor event where you can see for yourself. so, your indoor maskless people are sitting at tables with no social distancing. if i showed you this picture and i didn't tell you that it was today, you know, you might think it was last year. but no, that happened today, an indarr event, no social distancing, no masks, none by the president. when you look at the math and look at the numbers and look at the projections and what masks do, it is clear trump does not care that masks save lives. his behavior would have changed long ago. at least it would have changed with 1 of the 170,000 deaths we've seen in this country thus far was that of his friend herman cain who died after

attending trump's rally mask free. kaitlan collins is live "outfront" the white house today. the democrats spent the week hammering the president on the coronavirus. he's next up to bat. what are you learning for his plans for his convention next week? >> it's not clear there's going to be any kind of focus on covid-19, not significantly at least judging on the conversations we've had as we've been reporting on what the convention is expected to look like and what aides are working on when it comes to speeches and theeps of the day. we do know the vice president said today he will address covid-19. of course he's the head of the coronavirus task force. that's not a surprise there when he speaks on wednesday night. we have not heard from any sources that the president is in any way expected to do some kind of address or focus on that which is notable like you said for the last few days you've seen democrats hammering away on the president's response to covid-19. but really culminating into what

joe biden said. he was saying basically the president abandoned the one core principle of the job which was taking care of the american people. biden argued it was disqualifying for the president. how does he defense in his response? what does he say about it? you noted there were people with the president today. they are expected to have an audience of some sort next week. some of the speeches will be indoors at the auditorium here in washington. they're hoping to have an audience there though it's unclear what the masks and social distancing is going to look like. when the president speaks outdoors on the south lawn, they're also going to have an audience there on thursday night. >> all right, kaitlan, thank you very much with all those details. i want to go to dr. sanjay gupta now and dr. jonathan reiner, director of the cardiac cath lab at g.w. who advised george w. bush medical team. you heard coming on a night when we have 175,000 dead americans from coronavirus and the new

projection from the model often cited by the white house is 31,000 deaths by december, more than 1,000 deaths every single day between now and then. 70,000 of those lives would be saved if people wear masks which of course didn't happen at the president's event today. is there any way to claim victory when it comes to the virus right now? >> well, if this commander is hit wi okay with a thousand americans dying every day, we need a new commanderment let's look at where we were two months ago compared to now. let me start with the good news. two months ago we're doing 500,000 tests a day. we're doing more. let's look at the positivity rate. that shows how much virus is in the community. two months ago, the positivity rate was 5.2%. now it's 6.4%, more virus in the community. daily positive cases. two months ago, 26,000 average

daily positive tests. today 46,000 positive tests. and finally, really the only number that really matters to me, which is number of people dying, two months ago, every day, 560 americans were dying of this virus, way too much. now it's a thousand. a thousand americans dying every day. that's not my definition of victory. that's a failure. we must do better. we can do better. we will do better. it's mind boggling. >> to me, it's just mind boggling when you see these numbers. and by the way, the thousand deaths a day is just what we've been seeing over the past 25 days, right? we've been seeing since the spring. it's not as if it's something that the president doesn't know can happen. they say masks could save those lives, and yet nobody wears them today. he doesn't wear them. no one wears them. sanjay, the w.h.o. today says that the progress made when you see cases dropping in places

like the u.s. doesn't equal victory. they're talking about outbreaks coming, second surge type events. but the president obviously holding that event today with no masks, no social distancing. and vice president pence said this today to defend the administration's response. here it is, sanjay. >> i truly believe that when president trump suspended all travel from china before the end of january, that bought us an invaluable amount of time to begin work on a vaccine. >> sanjay, no vaccine yet, 175,000 people died from when that travel suspension happened until now. what's the vice president talking about? >> i think he's co-mingling two different issues here. you know, the travel ban and the vaccine really have nothing to do with each other. it is true that the work on the vaccine started early. there was a genetic sequence that was shared with the united

states. we followed that story carefully. that was happening. that has nothing to do with the travel ban. the thing about the travel ban, that may, in fact, be a misnomer. you may remember, erin, there was a ban put in place but it was a pretty porous plan because a lot of people were still coming back in through airports. they were doing temperature screenings. when we look back, there was nobody stopped at the temperatu temperature screening points. the real problem was that there was a month after that, as you well know, where really nothing was done while a contagious virus continued to spread in this country. if you go back, i think that was one of the big original problems here. give a virus that contagious and nothing's being done to slow its spread. there was a testing failure in the beginning, as you remember. that is what really seeded this virus in this country. then we know the virus started coming in from europe as well. so, there was all sorts of problems. but i heard that. i've spoken to the vice president about this. he always points to the travel ban. he calls it that. but it was, obviously,

insufficient to really accomplish slowing down the spread. >> it wasn't a ban and the sequencing has shown that the virus seeded so much of this country actually came from europe, which at the time was not under ban. so, it doesn't add up in any way. never mind that the president of the united states at the time was saying there's one death, there's 15 cases, they're going to zero, it's going away. so, dr. reiner, the trump administration today now added this additional thing that's important to understand. they say the fda will no longer require premarket review of some lab tests which includes certain coronavirus tests. okay. so, what does that mean? they're going to say that's to try to speed things up, but obviously what matters here is that these things are accurate and they work. when you see this review that the fda would always have taken away, you think what? >> well, the first thing that i noticed was this is the hhs, the parent department for the fda,

fighting with their agency. so, essentially the political leadership of hhs is fighting with the professional people who staff the fda. the fda, early on in the pandemic, invoked a frequently used requirement to have these private labs submit an eua, emergency use authorization, for test for the covid virus. they took way too long to approve those tests. the first patient tested positive in the u.s. january 20th, fda didn't approve any of the private labs until february 29th. the fda received a lot of criticism for how long it took them to approve these labs. now they do completely the opposite and remove all oversight. so, certainly there's a middle space between having a pond rouse review of these lab tests and no review of the lab tests. and i think certainly we should

be able to have a rapid review, know that our tests are accurate, not sort of washing your hands and letting labs just produce any lab that they think is a workable system. >> so, sanjay, today the cdc director talked about rhode island, dr. redfield did as an example of successfully reopening child care centers. he gave numbers that did look very strong, basically saying if you do everything right, we can open all these institutions, sort of the implication. does it add up when you look at the numbers? >> well, the thing about it is you look at a community like rhode island and we can show you the things the cdc is recommending. one thing you have to look at is how is the community doing specifically. rhode island has a positivity rate -- dr. reiner was just talking about positivity rates. they're 2.5% over there. a good favorable positivity rating. all the things you see on the list are things that probably make sense, right? physical distancing, face masks,

ventilation. that bottom one, it's going to come up again and again. what is your plan if positive cases start to arise in your institution? what is the plan for that? it has to be very transparent and well spelled out for people, otherwise it's going to get confusing. and in rhode island the plan was to immediately isolate, have enough testing, isolate positive tass and quarantine. when you're doing that, there's some 800 people who are now under quarantine as part of these daycare centers as well, right? so, you've got to keep that in mind. they are acting very quickly, but it does leave an impact. there's repercussions to doing this because if you open up, people go into quarantine, they're not doing anything for 14 days. >> and you think about what that means for schools and implications. thank you both. i leave everyone with one thought, the model cited by the white house, more than half the deaths they're projecting between the white house, 70,000

would be saved if they're wearing no masks, and the president today inside with no masks and no social distancing. fla reporting its youngest coronavirus victim, a 6-year-old girl. joe biden speaking out in a new interview and taking on trump for what he has said about kamala harris. >> no president has used those words. and growing concerns about the upcoming election and mail-in voting. could 2020 be a repeat of what happened in 2000? remember the hanging chad? one person at the center, the 2000 recount with a huge warning tonight. it's time for the biggest sale of the year on the sleep number 360 smart bed.

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and i don't see it not happening given the burden of disease that's circulating in the community today. >> middle america right now is getting stuck. we don't need to have a third wave in the heart land. >> case counts climbing in illinois, iowa, south dakota. now looking a little sunnier in the south, rate of new cases falling in texas. even so today in dallas -- >> all the medical professionals were unanimous in their recommendation that there should be no in-person learning on september 8th. >> of the 101 largest districts in the nation, 64 now reopening online only despite pressure in the president and some of his that are not medical professionals. july 8th, the president tweeted this. in germany, schools are open

with no problems. the next day, 356 new cases in germany. today more than four times that. >> they're working out what the plan would be. i would have a lot of questions. parents do have a lot of questions. this is a risky proposition no matter how you do it. >> kicking up to college level, cases confirmed in 19 states, some reverting to remote learning. gatherings like this proving a problem. penn state's president asking the president, do you want to be the person responsible for sending everyone home? >> reporter: and the cdc has updated its guidelines for reopening k-12 and it's very clear that they want to have a situation where if you've got one case in a school you do not need to shut the whole place down. they are, as the administration is, very eager for schools to open brick and mortar. but i think you mentioned this, erin, earlier, a 6-year-old did

just die in florida from covid-19. yes, kids generally do not get it as seriously, but they do get it. erin. >> all right. nick, thank you very much. i want to go straight to dr. william schaffner now, former cdc official and professor of infectious diseases at vanderbilt medical center. the florida education commissioner just spoke with jake tapper on cnn about florida's decision to mandate in-person classes in the fall. he said sending kids back to school is safe because they have less risk of catching coronavirus than they do seasonal flu. here's what he said. >> the risks that are known are certain, are profound on not sending children back, child abuse cases, suicide deaths, drug overdoses, achievement gap exacerbations, food insecurities. it's far greater than the low,

low risk of even less than seasonal flu. >> what's your reaction to that conclusion? >> he doesn't know that. i don't know what data he's using. as nick said, opening schools is a risky business. we're doing it all over the country in various ways trying to do it carefully. but we all know, in effect, we're doing an experiment. we'll have to see what happens, and we must have a plan to respond if there are cases. dr. gupta said that in your previous segment. he's absolutely right about that. we have to be flexible and be able to respond if cases occur in a school. >> so, one top w.h.o. official earlier today, doctor, compared the patterns of this pandemic with those that we saw in the 1918 influenza, in which more than 15 million people, the

w.h.o. says, died. here's what they said. >> they took three waves for the disease to infect most of the susceptible individuals. and then seasonal patterns. this virus is not displaying similar wave-like pattern. >> so, what's the significance of this, dr. schaffner, that he's basically saying it took three waves then and the most susceptible people had it, then it became seasonal and less of a threat. he says this is not acting that way. what does that mean? >> first of all, this virus didn't go away in the summer to come back in the winter. it's kept spreading. so, we don't think this is going to be a very seasonal virus. remember, this is a new virus. it's writing the textbook as it goes along. the other thing we have to remember, back in 1918, we didn't travel. we didn't communicate the way we did. we had a much smaller population. we were much more ruler and

separated. it took much longer for that virus to find us all because we were fewer and more separate. today we're together. we can get in a car and go almost everywhere. so, this virus has many more opportunities to spread widely, as it's doing now. >> you make a really good point because i think we all remember as you were saying that, maybe other people's memories were jogged as well, they did think in the summer it would get better because of the statistics the cdc has put out. we know the half-life of the virus plunges in humidity and heat and sunlight. they really expected there to be a benefit. we've been at this 1,000 deaths a day now non-stop. so, what does that say to you that the experts with all the information they had were wrong about that? >> well, we were very careful about it. we said we didn't know whether

this virus would do that. you know, it's human cousins the ones that cause us colds. we thought they would behave similarly. this virus said, nope, not going to do this, going to keep spreading. this virus is not going to just disappear. and we need a vaccine, but the vaccine is not the complete answer. this virus has to be also combatted with masks, social distancing and avoiding large groups. that's going to be part of the program for months ongoing. otherwise, we'll continue to suffer these deaths. >> dr. schaffner, thank you. >> thank you. >> and next, trump claiming the postal service is not prepared to handle 51 million ballots, which it is anticipated to have to. the 2000 recount judge is my guest to talk about the upcoming election. president trump going after the democrats' convention.

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new tonight, president trump claiming that widespread voting by mail in the presidential election could mean never knowing who won. >> we're not prepared for this, 51 million ballots. it will be a tremendous embarrassment to our country. it'll go on forever, and you'll never know who won. >> this, as trump's hand picked postmaster general testified today that the u.s. postal service will make delivering mail ballots on time a priority, and in fact, said that he plans to vote by mail as well. charles wells, chief justice of the florida supreme court during the presidential election and recount. as you see this coming, you have seen the last time there was such uncertainty and insecurity in the vote, in the count, in the outcome. we remember the hanging chads,

dimpled chad, the magnifying glass. it was awful. it was scary. we all count on this system. right now nine states have vote by mail as the primary way of voting. we're going to see a lot more now, right? there's going to be a lot more states with tens of millions of ballots that no one expected to happen by mail. what do we need to do to get this right? >> the first thing that occurs to me, erin, is we have got to learn from the contested elections that we have had in this country. there's nothing as important to our democracy as electing the president of the united states. and in 2000, one of the things we learned was that there are two levels of law that are applied to presidential campaign and elections.

and the presidential election is different than the electing of a governor, electing of a senator or county commission. but the state laws that apply to those state offices, they apply. in florida, we had a number of mistakes, which if our state had gone back and corrected, we could have corrected those mistakes like the punch card ballots, the hanging chads, the pregnant chads and all that. we had the butterfly ballot. that was a form of a ballot, and that should have been corrected prior to election day. but we also have federal law. and the election of a president is controlled through the electoral college, and that has

laws that limit the time of counting and contesting in order to get under the safe harbor provisions of the federal statute. that's what we learned in florida in 2000. that's a lesson that has to be learned this year. >> and the president says, of course, this is going to go on and on, we'll never know who wins. he strongly opposed mail-in ballots even though he himself has voted absentee mail-in. he says if he doesn't win, the whole thing is going to be rigged because it's mail-in. >> this whole thing with this mail-in ballot, that's a rigged election waiting to happen. it's the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged. remember that. it'll end up being a rigged election or they'll never come out with an outcome. they'll have to do it again. >> what do you say to that? how worrisome is that? >> our experience in florida -- and we have been voting by mail

for a considerable period of time now. and during the period of time that i was on florida supreme court, which spanned a term of approximately 15 years, we did not have any alleged fraud arising out of the method by which we were voting. but we do have the problem that we had in 2000, that those ballots do need to be gotten to the county supervisors early and that on election night, the counting must begin. because the thing that i want everyone to understand is that in this presidential election, that in order for states to make sure that they get to protect their own votes for their

citizens, they have to have all county and they have to have the contest by december 8th. >> we don't get those votes then. well, justice wells, i appreciate your time. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. next kamala harris responding moments ago to president trump after he calls her nasty and a disaster. >> there is so much about what comes out of donald trump's mouth that is designed to distract the american people. >> and why millions of americans are now at risk of losing their homes. >> we just got into our apartment. we've been there for a year. i don't know what to do. i don't know what to do. i don't know what to do.

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and he also said she is the meanest, most horrible, most disrespectful of anyone in the u.s. senate. their response. >> i think that there is so much about what comes out of the donald trump's mouth that is designed to distract the american people from what he is doing every day, that is about neglect, negligence, and harm to the american people. >> and incompetence. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> the idea he would say something like that, no president -- no president -- no president has ever said anything like that. no president has ever used those words. >> that's probably true. the meanest, most disrespectful, nasty, biden would be accurate. "outfront" now senior spokesperson for clinton's 2016 campaign and john kasich, two-term republican governor

evof ohio. attacks like this from donald trump are nothing new, although, you know, adding t quite an ens. you did have to deal with them in the 2016 campaign right? the nasty woman rolled out then. how do you rate senator harris and joe biden's response? >> i thought it was pitch perfect. i mean, look, they are right to call it out as a distraction because a lot of what donald trump's strategy thus far in this campaign has been about focusing on atmospherics or trying to create attacks on joe biden, sleepy joe, and now going after these sexist and racist attacks on kamala harris instead of making the case for himself, what he's accomplished over these last four years and where he wants to take the kucountry. we hear nothing about that. it's all about attacks on others. it's important to call that out. the second thing i'll also

mention is i do think it is for others outside of the campaign to point out that the goal that trump has in doing this is about othering. it is about saying she's not one of us. she's something else. she's mean. and that's a long-held trope and stereotype that is held about women rather than talking about qualifications, he's attacking her on personal traits. >> to state the obvious, we have this special this weekend on 100 years since women's suffrage. you would never call a male candidate mean. you just wouldn't do it. it would be silly. governor kasich know, joe biden last night said president trump, his quote, has cloaked america in darkness for too long. and today president trump came back and said it was the dnc that was committing this darkness. here's what he said. >> over the last week, the democrats held the darkest and angriest and gloomiest

convention in american history. they spent four straight days attacking america as racist and a horrible country that must be redeemed. >> was he watching the same dnc that you were and that you spoke at, governor? >> first of all, erin burne, i' joe biden. but i want you to know for the rest of the campaign i'm going to call them like i see them, just so you know, as i do all the time even as a republican when i criticize republicans. in terms of what donald trump said, he wasn't watching the convention i was watching. i thought it was pretty good. i have to say to you that i've heard nothing but praise for joe biden's speech last night. people are saying for those that say he's slow and he doesn't have it and he's bad health and all this other stuff, i think he knocked it out of the park. it was very, very hopeful speech, and i think that convention all in all was extremely hopeful. and i was glad to be part of it. i hope i was part of the hope

side of it, not the dark side of it. >> so, karen, the biden campaign says that the campaign, the dnc and fundraising committee, the combination of all these different things raised $70 million during the convention. they had 48 million and got that initial energy and 70 million over the four days. our own jeff zeleny is reporting there are no plans for biden to go back to the campaign trail because the coronavirus pandemic is still raging, until it's done, which it's not going to be during this campaign. so, is it going to be hard to keep that fundraising enthusiasm up without being physically out on the trail with crowds of any sort, karen? >> i don't think so. look, just as you pointed out, look at the amount of money that was raised just putting kamala harris on the ticket and the energy and enthusiasm and excitement around that. they're going to have to -- just in the same way that we had to

bring in that vision and reimagine the convention, that's what they're going to have to continue to do on the campaign trail between now and november whether that is more zoom calls -- how many zoom calls can you do in a day -- and town hall meetings with people. maybe we'll see additional -- i thought the tailgate rally was pretty fun. just going to have to be creative and find other ways to reach people. one irony about this is is yes, you can't do the big speech with the big crowd. but you get to have more conversations with people. so, i think you'll have to be inventive about that. >> i have to say from a mathematical point of view, they don't -- you don't have all this travel. that takes a chunk of the budget away. you can spend it on ads and have a targeted audience. i'm thinking in terms of reinventing this, there's a lot to think through there.

governor, during the interview we just saw a clip of with senator harris, biden said he is willing to shut the country down if necessary to fight coronavirus, even though we never had a full one, but to go back there to those days of early spring. here's what he said. >> we cannot get the country moving until we control the virus. that is the fundamental flaw of this administration's thinking to begin with. in order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing and people employed, you have to fix the virus. you have to deal with the virus. >> so, if the scientists say shut it down -- >> i would shut it down. i would listen to the scientists. >> of course, governor, you know, he was wearing the mask very early on and was scorned, the president retweeting, i believe brit hume scorning him. but, look, the u.s. never really fully shut down. but the shutdown that happened was awful for many americans, right, and had horrible economic

implications. he is right, economists do say, right, that you can't reopen if the virus is there because the economic damage will be even worse. but when he comes out and says i'm willing to shut it down again, is they politically smart thing to say? >> well, i think what joe's trying to do is to say that i'm not going to fool around with this, you know, that you had the president calling it a hoax. so, i think joe is trying to show that, you know, he's going to be tough. for me, as a leader, when i was governor, i would listen to scientists, but i would make up my own mind. but i think this was a matter of his trying to be very strong. where i think this will go, erin, is i don't know any of these epidemiologists or most of these doctors who say shut it all down again. i think what they say is the hammer and the dance. in other words, where things are under control, that's fine. but where things are getting out of control, that may take much tougher action. so, i think that's where we would end up on this and where we are going to end up on this. i think what he was trying to

say is i'm going to listen to scientists and i'm going to do the things that they say that make sense. and that's, i think, the effort to look strong. >> all right. thank you both. now months of the coronavirus pandemic, millions of americans are out of work. now, look, you're seeing people not able to pay the rent. you're seeing eviction. >> number of people in the household. >> i'm not the only parent out here that's struggling. i can't imagine how many other parents are sitting here. >> here at the los angeles football. >> put it park, please. >> this is my first time coming up and grabbing food. >> today is the first day of virtual school for her two children. >> my kids are in there right now like we don't have anything to eat. i'm like i know, let me go see what i can do. we were homeless and then we just got into our apartment. we've been there a year. we just got the car in november. everything has been a stair step

for me and now the stair steps are going back down. i don't know what to do. i don't know what to do. i don't know what to do. >> the single mother is thousands behind in rent. unable to work while also home schooling her kids. the $600 a week federal stimulus, that's gone, as congress fights over a new deal, just as eviction moratoriums expire in nearly half of the states in the u.s., leaving an estimated 20 million americans at risk of eviction by september 30th. >> i'm paying around 1,100 a month and obviously i don't have that amount of income at all anymore. >> before the pandemic, he was a photographer, restaurant server, and actor with small roles on hit shows like "grey's anatomy." >> i was actually only approved

for $117 per week on state unemployment. >> what does that get you? >> like there's kind of a running clock of, you know, ticking time bomb of when things are going to happen. i think my best bet is to stay here until they try to evict. >> what we keep hearing from americans in all sectors of the economy, frustration. >> i don't want your unemployment. i don't want the $600 extra. i want to work. i want to work at what i do, and i want to utilize my 30 years of experience. >> for decades chris has been a live production manager making 6 figures for him and his two kids but his entire industry is shut down. li live entertainment won't come back until probably next year. he's choosing which bills to

pay. >> there is no direction, no answer, no plan, no hope. there is no outcome that is going to be financially viable for anyone at the moment. >> love ya. >> reporter: lawmakers in california are scrambling to keep people in their apartment. that's something facing a lot of states and there is no deal yet. so here is the reality check we're hearing. even if there is a deal, they have no idea how they would be able to pay the running tab. er ki-- erin. a coverup of someone who was apparently poisoned. what his family is saying tonight. all otc pain relievers including voltaren

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became very sick or died. >> reporter: the price of a position can be painfully high. the grunts from alexi. medics evacuated him from this flight forced to make an emergency landing when suddenly taken ill. a passengers recorded it being stretchered into an ambulance. russian doctors found no evidence of poisoning. but his wife and his supporters insist it's a coverup and delays to his evacuation from siberia to germany for medical treatment were an attempt to hide the truth. >> translator: swewe certainly believe it was made to be a chemical substance in his body. that's why he's handed over to make sure part of this will be solved. >> reporter: the hospital says at that time not true and worried about his clinical state.

he certainly knew the risks more than any other opposition figure in russia. he got ordinary people out to protest with an unrelenting campaign to highlight corruption challenging the kremlin making enemies on russia that's dangerous. >> a man appeared with a gun and shot us three times in the chest -- >> reporter: over years russia has gained a reputation for silencing critics. this was me in 2006 reporting on the killing of one of the journalist most critical of russian president vladimir putin's policies. she was gunned down in her moscow apartment block. shortly afterwards, alexander critical of the kremlin suffered a slow agonizing death after being poibe beingbe being poisoned with a radio active isotope in london. russia's leading of significant politician boris was shot and killed as he walked over a bridge near the kremlin with his

girlfriend. more recently in 2018 a sleepily corner of england was shocked when a military grade nerve agent was used to poison a former spy and his daughter. in all the cases, the kremlin denied any involvement. they isn't accepting a connection to this sickness but another outspoken kremlin critic has been silenced. matthew chance, cnn, moscow. >> now, this was a historic week for women. it has so many of us talking about barriers many of us face in this country. women represented, which area tomorrow night i spoke with many women including jessica al bar that told me a special story about a movie executive that refused to cast her and what she did about it. take a look. >> if you do have any story from

your career, anything that you went through of sexual harassment that you had to endure and get through that was really hard for you. is there any sort of a story you might be able to share with young women watching? >> i was told that after i had my kid, i was not an executive who is running a studio, president of a studio said i wasn't -- basically, i wasn't desirable anymore because i was a mom now and moms aren't that and i just can't believe that this person would say this. and i think that's sort of what got me to stop caring so much about my career in hollywood as it had been and these [ bleep ] that are running this business,

i don't need them. i spent about three and a half years dreaming up the honest company and really found my purpose in building this company. >> well, her company, the honest company became a billion-dollar company. hear hour discussion with al bb and others tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. good evening. more than 170,000 americans lost their lives and 5.6 million have been infected. we crossed that terrible milestone just late today at about the same time the university of washington's institute for health met tricks and evaluation released yet another new forecast. this time predicting a death toll of 310,000 people in this country by december. the institute director joins us to