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critic alexei navalny arrives in germany after a suspected poisoning. live from cnn headquarters in atlanta. welcome to you, our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm kim brunhuber, and this is "cnn newsroom." a warning from health experts to the united states. the death toll could be nearly double by december, unless americans take the coronavirus more seriously. according to johns hopkins university, more than 175,000 people have died how of 5.6 million infected. uninfluential model says things could get much worse. the death could top 300,000 by the beginning of december. that's at least 1,000 americans dead every day for the next

three months, and that number could rising to staggering heights after december begins. >> we have the worst scenario in what we release, and that's many, many more deaths. and in fact, by the time december rolls around, if we don't do anything at all, the daily death toll in the u.s. would be much higher than the 2,000 deaths a day we would expect by december. could be as high as 6,000 deaths a day. depends on what we do both as individuals and what governments do. >> but the model also gives some help. it says the projected death toll could fall to 70,000 if people wear masks and stick to safety guidelines. a big if. all of this as the u.s. begins a new school year, already there are outbreaks on college campuses. meantime the director for centers for disease control and prevention is sounding a new warning, athena jones has more.

>> reporter: as college students head back to campus, coronavirus outbreaks at universities in at least 19 states, representing 1900 cases among students and staff leading to persons like this. a large gathering at penn state prompted the school's president asking those flouting the rules, do you want to be the ones responsible for sending everyone home? mississippi colleges warned to be careful. since they make up the highest proportion of cases there. >> we know we've got a lost work there and something that we have to work on over the course of the next 12 months. >> reporter: while states face reopening like mississippi and new york, florida is in goo position to reopen schools. governor andrew cuomo saying he has questions to. >> they're still working out what the plan would be.

i would have a lot of questions. parents do have a lot of questions. this is a risky proposition, no matter how you do it. >> reporter: and with u.s. death averaging more than 1,000 a day for 20 consecutive days, the cdc is projecting 195,000 deaths by september 12, three weeks away, suggesting that staggering death rate will continue, at least in the short term. >> we are beginning, i think, to turn the tietde. >> reporter: still cdc director robert redfield says 30 to 60 million who have already contracted the virus. we could see the daily number of deaths decline as more people follow public health guidelines like mask wearing, handwashing and social distancing. >> hopefully this week and next week, you'll see the death rate drop again. >> reporter: new cases are steady or falling in 40 states. but redfield warned that positive trend isn't taking hold

anywhere. >> middle america right now is getting stuck. we don't need to have a third wave in the heartland. >> reporter: coronavirus cases are on the rise in states like wyoming, iowa and illinois. with a new emory university study suggesting superspreader events are driving it in rural areas. meanwhile on the vaccine front - who country can just drive this out until we have a vaccine. >> reporter: the 1918 pandemic lasted two years. he hopes this one won't. >> and even if we do have a vaccine, it wouldn't end the pandemic on its own. progress does not mean victory. >> reporter: and there is another sad sign that victory over this virus is not yet at hand. we learned that a 6-year-old girl in florida's hillsborough county has become the youngest person in the state to die from covid-19. athena jones, cnn, new york.

democratic presidential challenger joe biden says he's prepped to take drastic science-based action, even shutting down the economy to fight the pandemic in the u.s. he appeared with kamala harris on abc news in their first joint interview since the convention. >> i would be prepared to do whatever it takes to save lives because we cannot get the country moving until we control the virus. that is the fundamental flaw of this administration's thinking to begin with. in order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing and people employed, you have to fix the virus. you have to deal with the virus. >> so if the scientists say shut it down? >> i would shut it down. i would listen to the scientists. >> but the democrats' convention done and dusted, the spotlight shifts to next week, and president trump gives a preview of how he plans to counter joe biden messaging.

jim acosta has the details. >> reporter: eager to get back on attack, the president took aim, the theme running through joe biden's speech, that the trump administration hack a time of darkness. >> they spent four straight days attacking america as racist and a horrible country that must be redeemed. and yet look at what we've accomplished. until the plague came in, look at what we've accomplished. and now we're doing it again. when joe biden sees american darkness, i see american greatness. >> reporter: it was a carefully scripted rebuttal that surprised allies anowhere sleepy. >> this is our moment, this is our mission. history will be able to say that the end of this chapter of american darkness began here tonight as long and hope and light join in the battle for the soul of the nation. >> reporter: and yet in front of a crowd, conservative activists,

many not wearing masks, the president warned that the biden administration would lead to the same unrest on the streets that happened on mr. trump's watch. >> i'm the only thing standing between the american dream and total anarchy, madness and chaos. and that's what it is. >> reporter: the president reprised his attacks for mail-in voting. >> i want the fair results. >> reporter: louis dejoy denied he's trying to rig the election for the president after event revelations that processing machines have been removed at postal centers across the country. >> will you be bringing back any mail sorting machines that having removed. >> there's no intention to do that, they're not needed, sir. >> reporter: dejoy insisted they had met but not about the election. >> did you discuss the possible

changes about the november election with the president or anyone at the white house and i remind you you're under oath? >> i've never spoken to the president about the postal service other than to congratulate and accept the position. >> reporter: the president is vowing to send police officers to polling stations. >> we're going have sheriffs and law enforcement, and we're going to have hopefully u.s. attorneys, we're going to have everybody, an attorney general. >> reporter: on pro-trump qanon movement -- >> will you dismiss it? >> i just did, john. >> reporter: vice president pence tried to dance around the conspiracy theory. >> i don't know anything about the conspiracy theory. i don't know anything about qanon. and i dismiss it out of hand. >> reporter: the president doing dodging of his own insisting he hasn't been speaking to steve bannon. but sources tell cnn mr. trump

and bannon have spoken in recent weeks despite what the president has said. >> i haven't been dealing with him for a long period of time and most of the people in this room know, i haven't been dealing with him tom. >> reporter: over the weekend, the president will be speaking to aides, aides calling it a return to american greatness. a title that mr. trump is still in damage control mode as the nation is still reeling from the pandemic. jim acosta, cnn, the white house. >> all right. so to discuss the dueling conventions, let's bring in james davis, the director of political science, and he joins me from munich, germany. thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. so, general consensus, even among some fox news personalities is that the democratic convention went fairly well, and joe biden stepped up and satisfied the modest expectations. the rationale, did the convention change anything?

the conventional political wisdom, the days of the convention bounce are done or short-lived, especially when the opponent's convention is just days away? >> well, i think that's right. i don't thing conventions really fundamentally achieve much. but the democrats pulled it off in very strange times. it's the first time bewe've had such a convention. i think they did a good job. i think the going was to reintroduce joe biden to the american people. to set out an agenda, a set of themes, of items they want to address. things that draw the contrast to this administration. i think they did that. and they did it in an interesting way, through a series of personal profiles that highlighted things like the climate crisis, the covid crisis. the health care in general, the

failure of leadership in this administration. gun violence, the problem with the economy, the fact that the working middle class are not benefitting from the economy. questions of immigration. each of these was tied to an individual way to a story, and that linked back to joe biden, the kind of person and leader joe biden would be. i think by stressing those issues and stressing the fact that we would return to a period of decency in the leadership, the democrats did what they needed to do. >> let's leave the democrat aside for now. let's head to the republican convention, basically they'll put pictures of protests at portland and chicago on a loop and say coming soon to you in a city near you. >> i think they need to draw a contrast in both in style and substance. they have the advantage of coming second, that is to say,

they can learn what the democrats did in terms of a virtual convention. i think in terms of style, they'll probably try to have more events in front of live audiences, whatever size they think is reasonable. but in terms of substance, i think they are going to try and paint a very different picture of america. a picture that interestingly enough is the picture that's emerged under their leadership. so, they're going to try to make it appear that the country is out of control. you have to ask yourself, why is it out of control if in fact that's true, because that's happened under the trump/pence administration. they're going to try to make joe biden out to be somebody who is beholden into a radical fringe element. but i think that's going to be very difficult. joe biden showed himself to be clearly in the mainstream of american politics. he showed that he's a decent man. with kamala harris, he has a former state attorney general, a law enforcement figure at his

side. somebody who actually has been -- has a history of putting people behind bars in jail. it's going to be hard, i think, to make that case. but that's the case they're going to try to make, radical rift under joe biden, and more violence in american cities. >> but then those facts appeal to the middle. i mean, we saw the democrats clearly trying to appeal to moderate republicans and undecided voters even featuring some republicans in their convention like kasich and cindy mccain. will there be any outreach ear here or rallying the base? >> they can't run on the record. there are no jobs, 20 million less. the economy has not lifted the prospect of the working class or middle class. and you're right, they need to go for that, i think, small group of undecided, white suburban voters who will make a

difference in some of the swing states. if you can't run on your record, what are you going to do? i think the attempt is going to be suggest that with a series of race-baiting whistle calls, that if you vote for biden, poor people are going to move into your neighborhood. your neighborhood is going to become destabilized. your property values are going to go down, that's what they're going to try to do. i think joe biden tribiden triee same voters who aren't quite decided, on the fence, tried to reach, say, look, you've got somebody like me from the mainstream of politics, a trusted and decent guy, who cares about you and your family. and i think if you have to put those two pictures next to each other, i think the biden picture is the one that those suburban housewives, those middle class americans who are on the fence

are going to go for. >> all right. we'll see. i'm sure the republicans will disagree with that. and i'm sure their convention will be entertaining if nothing else. thank you very much, james davis, we appreciate your thoughts on this. and as we said, next up, the republicans. tune in for our live coverage of their national convention. it starts on monday evening at 7:00 p.m. eastern. of course, we'll also have full coverage and analysis on cnn.com. all right. coming up after the break, scorching temperatures and dire predictions that the worst may yet to come as california firefighters battle more than 500 raging wildfires. plus, a frequent foe of put put ha vladimir putin has arrived at a german hospital. we'll have the latest on alexei navalny's condition and what is ahead for him.

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well, look at this terrifying and tragic image of california as firefighters short on resources battle hundreds of wildfires across the state. the worst burning around the san

francisco bay area. california's governor is pleading for federal help and help from other states. he says all of california's firefighting resources are already in the battle. and it's not nearly enough. >> the challenge that we're facing here in the state is now disproportionately impacting northern california, and that is because of close to 12,000 lightning strikes that we experienced over a 72-hour period. just a day ago, i announced that we are struggling to address the needs of suppressing some 376 fires in this state. that number has grown to about 560 fires. >> all right. let's bring in meteorologist derek van dam. derek, a state that seems to be setting new records for wildfires every year. another huge one this year and the weather not helping us. what's the latest?

>> yeah, the resources in california so stressed at the moment. talking to personnel there in california, they're talking about how days for the firefighters usually last to 12 hours, they're now being doubled to 24. even in some cases, 48-hour stretches of work trying to battle and contain the blazes. talking about the records, kim, we have currently right now the second and the fourth largest fires in the state of california's history. this is ever. just incredible to see what's happening within the northern and central portions of the state, particularly. and you can see the containment there really not that promising, anywhere from 2% to upwards of 15%. a long way to go for t the ever-lasting battle for the wildfires. there's an incredible submission of smoke in the upper levels. what you're looking at is an experimental model of noaa. and it's traveling from

california, roughly 2,000 miles across the great plains. it will eventually reach the east coast with this as well. more smogky mission has been measured from the satellite. at any point since measurements have been taken, dating back to 2005. that's just incredible, putting that into context of how severe this fire season has been. even more context here, the three largest fires taking place in california right now, we refer to them as the lightning complex fires. they've burned over 600 acres so far. last year in the state alone, 260,000 acres in the state. we have doubled that over three months. there are other wildfires, it's not just california, it's colorado, it's oregon. but it's the state of california

with over 90 active wildfires. just as california is breaking records we're not even in the peak season with the ant that anna winds, but we're breaking records with two tropical systems heading towards the gulf of mexico. we have over 1600 miles of threat in tropical conditions next week. tropical storm laura and you can see the tropical storm warnings lining puerto rico and the bahamas. it does forecast laura to become a category 1 hurricane before making landfall on wednesday in louisiana. kim. >> thank you, derek. gravely ill opposition leader alexei navalny has now arrived in berlin.

the ngo said that his flight went well and navalny is in stable condition. he suddenly became ill on thursday in a flight to moscow. navalny has been in a coma and there are those who believe he was poisoned. but russian doctors dispute this. and navalny's wife yulia is traveling with him. these are pictures of her with him just a short time ago. in the flight thursday, as he fell ill, you can hear him groaning in pain. the plane made an emergency landing in omsk, russia, where navalny was taken to the hospital. let's go to cnn's phil black in london. following that plane that arrived in germany a short time ago. so what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, kim, as you say, he's arrived, he's stable. the flight went well and from his family's point of view, he's

now receiving independent medical care they can trust. from their point of view, they believe, beyond doubt, that someone tried to poison him with the intention of killing him. again from their point of view, for as long as he was in russia and receiving russian medical care, their fear, their concern, was that someone could seek to finish the job either through negligence or perhaps through something more pro active. because they already say that they think the russian authorities deliberately delayed navalny's release or transfer, if you like, his ability to leave russia. because they think there was an exercise to try to cover the tracks of the initial poisoning effort. they believe he was held in russia long enough to allow whatever poison in his system to dissipate to a point where it wouldn't be detectable by the time they arrive in independent

care. they believe he's will be in germany soon enough to save his life, and allow him to recover, but also to also find some find some evidence that would allow doctors to determine exactly what it was that struck limb down on that plane. >> well, presumably, if this was poison, this was meant to have a chilling effect on him, on the opposition movement. so, what's been the reaction in russia? and more pointedly, assuming he survives and is in good condition, will he go back to russia? >> reporter: well, if this is a poisoning that his supporters very clearly do believe it was, yes, it was a message, basically saying no one is untouchable. that anyone who defies the russia probe, they're doing it at the risk of their own safety and their own lives. because among their supporters,

there are those who believe he's been so courageous in challenging putin and the political system that he was consistently endangering his life. he believes he had been potentially poisoned once before this particular event. but also there's a theory that says he's so influential, his following is so strong, that to some degree, he was protected by this. because to get rid of him in some way, that would carry political consequences. that would make the russian political system less stable in its own way. but this will have a chilling effect on the russian opposition, there is no doubt. because of that warning which says very clearly, if you defy the system, this could also happen to you. navalny himself is a hugely determine man. and you would have to think if he does recover, he will return to the fray, if you like, return to russia and continue his work. but what will be left of the

opposition when he does return, should he return, is very much an open question at this day. >> thank you so much for that. we'll continue following the story, cnn's phil black live in london. appreciate it. well, new coronavirus cases on the rise across europe weeks after tough restrictions ended, numbers are tracking up in germany, spain and france. we're going to have a live report straight ahead. plus, beijing is letting down its guard, telling people they no longer have to wear masks outside. we'll explain why. stay with us. all otc pain relievers including voltaren

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countries. germany reports its highest number of daily infections saturday since the end of april, more than 2,000. infections have been climbing there since late july. and on friday, spain reported more than 8,000 new cases in 24 hours, one of the highest daily increases since restrictions ended. meanwhile, health officials in france warn that the virus spread is accelerating. daily cases passed 4,000 friday for the seventh consecutive day. for more on this, let's go tour london to milena veselinovic. as cases ricse, what countries are at concern here. >> reporter: in spain, health officials say that the virus is out 0 of control. and in the capital of madrid, living in the most affected parts of the city, to actually stay home.

spain has the highest virus infection rate out of the entire european continent according to the european centers for disease control. but other countries, france, italy, germany, have had their highest daily increases in the virus this week. since the peak. on friday, actually the highest number of cases in one day since the entire pandemic began. authorities had to ban large gatherings and actually mandate the wearing of masks indoors and outdoor. here in britain where i am, officials are worrying that the outbreak is growing in certain parts of the country. and britain's birmingham is teetering on the edge of a lockdown because of a huge rise in infections there. >> is this all just the familiar recipe of reopening and relaxing your guard? >> reporter: well, the world health organization said that this is a consequence of soci y

societies resoaping. people getting more relaxed after months of lockdowns and dropping their guard a little bit. infections have been rising steadily since the restrictions have been peeling off in the last few weeks. experts are worried as colder weather comes to europe in the next few weeks and months, people will be spending more time indoors as they do indoors, and it will coincide with the flu season as well. >> another troubling aspect of the story. thank you so much, cnn's milena veselinovic in london, appreciate it. brazil is reporting more than 30,000 new covid-19 cases in a 24-hour period ending friday. more than 1,000 deaths were also registered on friday, bringing the nation's death toll to more than 113,000. brazil's 3.5 million cases is

the world's second highest tally after the u.s. and just the opposite is happening in beijing where residents no longer have to wear masks when they go outdoor. the government is lifting the mandate after just 20 new cases were reported across all of china friday. and 1 million cases in beijing for the past 13 days. let's bring in cnn's correspondent selina wang from hong kong. the packed pool in wuhan, the epicenter of the virus, it's unimaginable from a few months ago, set ago side the wisdom of a gathering like that, it speaks to an amazing turnaround. >> reporter: kim, those images were striking. wuhan ground zero have not reported any new cases since mid-may. but those images are unthinkable to see all of those massive crowds packed at this electronic pool party, no masks, no social

distancing as you can see from those images. meanti meantime, life in wuhan is getting back to normal until beijing. they're getting more normal as well. according to government regulations people no longer have to wear masks in public as long as they're not in close contact with people. kim, just months ago, back in june, the capital was grappling with a fresh outbreak leading to the wholesale market. the city went down in partial lockdown and started testing millions of its residents. even though people aren't required to wear masks. some people still prefer to and some say it makes them safe and some feel that they're not sure to go mask-free. take a listen to what this 24-year-old had to say. >> translator: i think i can take off my mask at anytime. but i need to see if others accept it. usually when i'm running i'm not wearing a mask. >> reporter: after months of

enforcement it can take some time for people to ajudjust to this new reality. and, kim in non-covid times as well, masks are a sight in beijing, especially on days when there's heavy pollution. >> absolutely. well, it makes sense. so, i want to ask you about a u.s. intelligence report which suggested that china hit the full extent of the coronavirus outbreak. what more you can tell us about that report and the reaction from beijing? >> reporter: that intelligence report really provides more context and nuance to the claims that trump and his officials have been making for months. they repeatedly slammed decline for hiding the initial outbreak, allowing it to spread around the world. that is also seen as part of trump's election campaign strategy to deflect blame, as the pandemic ravages america, killing more than 175,000 americans. now, according to officials with knowledge of this report, they

say that local officials in wuhan were hiding information about the outbreak to the central government. experts have noted that in china's government system, local officials are known to hide information to beijing because of fear of punishment. one official, however, did tell cnn that they think beijing should be held accountable. and that there may have been some groundwork laid out to place the blame on those local officials as a scapegoat. beijing in response said they did everything to be transparent to the international community. >> launch so much for that. selina wang in hong kong. appreciate it. a change from the doom and gloom. visiting hours in the hospital in czech republic are quite a spectacle. check this out after restrictions to visitors to elderly patients were reduced due to the coronavirus, these

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president trump's former chief strategist steve bannon is among those charged with pocketing donations meant to pay for a private border wall. the saga that involves talk of $1 million boat and a man who sells trumble-themed energy drinks. cnn takes a look at how the scandal allegedly played out and what the president and his family may have known.

>> reporter: the president seemed to have amnesia over his once close relation stship to se bannon and the profit build the wall. >> i knew nothing about the profit other than what i read about it. >> reporter: that doesn't seem to line up with others say about the project like the former secretary of state and advisory board member of the we build the wall organization. who has repeatedly said not only did the president know about the project that raised $25 million in donations but supported. >> i've spoken to the president about this project on three occasions now. >> trump expressed clear enthusiasm for it. he wants it known that he stands behind this. >> and he went further and he said i want the media to know that about this profit. he was really making a point that he was point this. >> reporter: a point echoed by the chief financial officer of

we build the wall, amanda shea. she's married to one of the men indict and posted this photo last summer and said she talked to president trump and had a lot of conversations about we build the wall, he was impressed, she said. donald trump's son don junior reportedly impressed as well. showing him taking a private jet where don junior praised it. >> this is private enterprise at its finest. we need it faster and cheaper. >> reporter: kolfage, badolato, steve bannon worked together to miss appropriate hundreds of thousands of dollars for those funds. payments allegedly went towards a boat. a luxury suv, a golf cart, jewelry, cosmetic surgery. that boat is one that kolfage used in a florida pro-trump boat

parade. when asked about it last december, he and steve bannon joked about it. >> welcome back, this is stephen k. bannon, we're off the coast of saint tropez, we're on the million dollar yacht. >> reporter: not so funny. kolfage a veteran said he would not take any money. >> 1 oor00% goes towards the wa. >> reporter: reached by email kolfage said all parts of the income, in the past two years into the indictment. and according to the indictment, the co-defendants conspired to

pay kolfage's salary by using a second nonprofit and hidden payments. expert doug white said it's the type of alleged fraud. >> that's what really breaks my heart. here's an example, if the allegations are true of fraud at its worst, and they were defrauded out of maybe checks $10, $50, some many more dollars, but none of that should take place under the guise of having someone then take that money, or part of it, to go live a lavish lifestyle. absolutely has to be stopped. >> reporter: the others indicted, andrew badolato, a 56-year-old florida investor close to bannon for more than 20 years. in the early 20s, badolato and bannon were directors of a naval spray company. and they pushed to remove bannon from the board for not investigating gre ing improprie

allegedly tied to badolato. he's repeatedly filed for bankruptcy. the third conspirator, timothy shea is accused of secretly filtering donations to himself and kolfage, payments described as social media charges. denver media agent sells a pro-trump energy drink that comes in a can with a picture of trump in a superhero costume. the charges against the men, one with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering are serious with maximum sentences up to 20 years each. steve bannon has not bleeded guilty, the men were arrested, posted bail and will be arraigned later. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. after the break -- >> i feel like that's an excuse to commemorate individuals

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liverpool has a surprising link to u.s. slavery. and for years u.s.-based neoconfederate groups have come to the english city to celebrate their its controversial history. but as cnn's selalma abdelaziz reports. >> reporter: at the heart lies a conflict. >> i'm taking you to see the graves of two confederates. >> reporter: between the historian. >> since the confederate veterans came to liverpool in order to see the dedication of evan steven bullock's grave. >> reporter: the local council denied this to cnn, two former officials attended the ceremony. >> just because we're here, i feel like that's an excuse to

commemorate keepi ing people in chains. >> reporter: it's a neoconfederate group now fighting to preserve it in the u.s. over the years, that a city council and in 2016, installing this plaque. jerry wells' name was on the sign. he was there and organized a week long event in 2015. >> to let liverpool people know that there was a support in liverpool at that time. for the confederacy. >> reporter: wells said he coordinated with local officials. but the council denied involvement. the group raised the confederate flag during their visit. >> in fact, we had a 60-foot second national flag flying. >> reporter: do you understand why people might take offense to federal officials?

>> no, they weren't fighting to keep anybody inslaved. >> reporter: tracy gore wants to put those views in the past. she heads liverpool's new race inequality task force. >> i'm quite sure they understand the deep-rooted racism and i think it's born out of us in accordance. >> reporter: appointed by liverpool's mayor, gore says it's time to change minds inside city hall. what was the first you heard of neoconfederate groups visiting liverpool. >> last week from your telephone call. a shock. >> reporter: liverpool city council denying any direct dealings with confederate groups and say they oppose their presence. his search for his ancestors led him here to a square with a statue of two men with links stand tall.

>> these are actually built on the bodies of enslaved africans as well. >> reporter: please athese are s built on graves. but he does not want to knock down the past. >> i would like to see plaquing on these monuments to tell people the roles they played in the slave trade. >> reporter: they're working with gore to do exactly just that. and for the first time, erect a public memorial to the victims of slavery. salma abdelaziz, cnn, liverpool. >> that wraps this hour of "cnn newsroom." i'm kim brunhuber. up next is "new day."

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