this. >> yeah. >> now, let's stipulate your motives were pure, came at this like a normal private sector ceo and want to save some money and make us work better. you wouldn't think that you might take into consideration the context and if you didn't as a good ceo when you saw unintended consequences which your testimony would have us believe, unintended, you take measures quickly to ameliorate, namely scaring the public half to death and anecdotal data in fact it affected the delivery of mail as the new postmaster general, you don't want to be seen as the guy who actually damaged the 244 reputation of the post service and scared voters into believing the ballots won't get on time because of your service, do you?

>> so i -- i understand the context and i think when we took in terms of the context it was a summertime. mail volume was down. you know? significantly. so it was not at a -- we are getting ready for the peak season and election is three months away. it was a good time to start to try to roll this out. again, the request was just run your trucks on time. put a plan to run your trucks on time. okay? i mean, the impact, the impact is probably about -- for that, because if the mail gets processed and the truck leaves, that mail will move on the next truck or the next day. all right? so these long stories of nine days and so forth were not impacted. those service levels if we add one day -- >> forgive me. i have limited time. you made a statement before the senate the other day to senator

gary peters, you have had no contact with the trump campaign during your tenure. is that correct? >> i have not -- i have spoken to the president. i have spoken to steve mnuchin. i have spoken to other people but i have not -- no contact about the postal service. >> did you not tell the board of governors in august that you have had contact with the trump campaign to ask them to stop their attacks on the postal service and voting by mail? >> i have put word around to different people that this is not helpful to -- >> so you did have contact with the trump campaign for a good purpose? >> i'm trying to think of where -- the trump -- when you say the trump campaign, i have not spoken to trump campaign

leadership in that regard. i have spoken to people that are friends of mine that are associated with the campaign, yes. >> one of whom was steve mnuchin? >> he's secretary of treasury. >> i know. >> yeah. i never spoke to steve about telling the president to not do something. >> i thank you, mr. dejoy. >> the gentleman's time is expired but you may answer his question. >> what was the question? >> the question was, what conversations did you have with the secretary of treasury mr. mnuchin about the postal service, your hiring and the consequences that seem to have unfolded with these operational efficiencies? >> the conversation with the secretary were when i came here we had this note that was kind of stuck in the mud and i worked with him to get the note done. it was really, you know, we are going to -- it was i'm going to try and control cost and grow

revenue and it was very high level thing and let's try and get the deal done so we have the loan. that was really it. >> thank you. mr. jordan is now recognized. >> thank you, madame chair. mr. dejoy, was it the postal service's fault it took six weeks after the june 23rd chairwoman maloney's election to be declared the winner? >> i don't know the details but took a long time. >> but i'm asking, that wasn't your fault, was it? >> no. >> the postal service's fault that new jersey counting ballots four weeks after the election last month? >> no, sir. >> how about the democrats' iowa caucuses? was that the post office's fault? i don't know if we still figured out who won the democrat iowa caucus? >> no, sir. >> i want to be clear. you got $14 billion cash on hand. $10 billion line of credit.

is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and changing out the sorting machines and removing and changing out mail collection boxes is nothing different than happened before? right? every postmaster general, every year we do those sort of things. is that right? >> yes, sir. >> yeah. so there's no different. what was the number? 2011 to 2016 like 12,000 mail collection boxes that were removed, changed out by the obama/biden administration. is that right? >> a lot. >> a lot. you didn't order a reduction in overtime or hours? >> i did not. >> so why are these guys out to get you? what is it? >> i don't -- they have their own concerns. i assume they're legitimate with them and -- >> you assume they're legitimate? why are they out to get you? mr. dejoy, they have people protesting at your house last night. they have been doing it for weeks and called for you to resign. they passed a bill before they

even talked to you. before they even had a hearing. they're not interested in a bipartisan solution and the chairwoman didn't contact the white house chief of staff who had a bill that worked with the late chairman cummings of the concerns of the post service. why are they after you? you were appointed by the board of governors. right? >> i was appointed by a -- >> unanimous vote. bipartisan. not all republicans. democrats thought you were the right guy for the job. right? >> yes. why are they out to get you? >> i have -- i have no idea. i have a lot of support amongst the employees and people in america, though. i receive it every day. >> got an amazing record in business. you got an amazing history of community service, help kids with education, serve the community and the country and the people out to get you.

none of the facts -- as "the wall street journal" said it is a giant conspiracy from the democrats. i'm just -- i want to know what could be their reason? what could it be, mr. dejoy? we know it's not based orin the facts. what could it be? might it be politics? might it be? might it be the election coming up? might it be the fact they want to wait and count votes after election day? maybe they want six weeks after the election. maybe they want to count votes six weeks after the election, presidential election, the biggest election we will have. maybe like the chairwoman's race or four weeks after like in new jersey or maybe they want to wait forever like the democrat iowa caucuses. might that be the reason? the chaos and confusion we saw with all three of those elections and what they want. could that be the reason, mr. dejoy? >> i don't know what motivates people to have different

opinions of me. >> they have called you all kinds of names today already. protesting outside your house last night, weren't they? >> yes, sir. >> banging pots and pans outside and disrupting your neighbors and you. the facts are not close to what they've been saying for the last three weeks and saturday on the house floor. this is -- we know what this is about. we all know what this is about. this is about these guys wanting chaos and confusion because they know on election night president trump is going to win and election day the vote count president trump's going to win and they want to keep counting, six weeks, four weeks, iowa caucus, whenever, i don't know when they decided that and i don't know if it was bernie or biden or whoever was running then. that's what they want. and they're willing to go after a guy like you who has served our country, community, helps kids with education, amazing record in business and go after you and been on the job 70 days

and everything you testified is nothing new, same thing's been done by other postmaster generals and yet they come after you because that's how much they want do get this president. it's disgusting. we all know what's going on and the fact you know it, too. you won't say it. i think that shows your character, as well. i'll say it because it's the truth and american people see it and see through it. i yield back. >> the gentleman yields back. congressman? you're now recognized. >> good morning, mr. dejoy. >> good morning. >> before becoming postmaster general i believe you appropriately resigned from being the finance cha for the republican national convention. correct? >> i did, sir. >> i say you appropriately resigned because even in your written testimony you said we should keep the nonpartisan tradition of the usps and in this case occupying a high level political post at the same time you'd be occupying a high level usps post would create at the --

>> i'm john king in washington. the house committee with the postmaster general. in florida the president of the united states if you look at the right of the screen has gone over the top. president trump is renominated as the republican -- nevada i'm told did that moments ago. the president of the united states renominated as the republican nominee, on the way to charlotte. the vice president of the united states spoke at that meeting. down there. the republicans doing it differently from the democrats. they have a daytime session. both the president and the vice president in a room in the presence of delegates as we go into this convention. the president will speak momentarily. we'll bring you that live. we have dana bash, rye i don't know -- ryan nobles, sung min kim. delegates in the room. a different look from the democrats and most importantly the president of the united

states renominated first time four years ago with a talk of a floor fight and this very much a coronation in 2020. >> reporter: yeah, john. you know, this is something that the republicans have been working on essentially since president trump won the election four years ago. they wanted this convention to be smooth sailing for the trump/pence ticket, no disagreement as to who the republican standardbearer was going to be and in the midst of coronavirus and the other things that have been thrown at president trump and this ticket they were able to pull that off. in many ways the republican convention this week not only what we see here this morning but see in the prime time programming in the week is really all about donald trump, even more than it is about the republican party broadly. you are going to see a member of the trump family speaking every night of the week, you will see the president himself making an appearance in some respect every night of the week and even as you go through the roll call

from all the various states across the country as they cast their delegates and ballots in favor of president trump there's a nod to the work that president trump has done over the past four years so if there's an ambiguity of where the republican party stood since 2016 it is made very clear here this morning and will be in the rest of the week. this is donald trump's party and he hopes to continue that on with a win in the fall. john? >> and, dana t, to that point, donald trump jr. will speak and melania trump and more members of the trump family will speak and the president appearing every night and i say that -- oh. sorry. back to the proceedings now. listen to a little btd of the roll call. >> president trump. new mexico, 22 delegates with a following banned delegates. 22 president trump. >> madame chair? on behalf of the good people of

the state of new mexico, a land of blue skies, limitless horizons and unvistas, where faith, freedom and family dominate our values, we all saw mr. trump come down that escalator and he gave voice to the fears and the anguish that we all felt for this country. and then he began to speak words of strength and purpose, words like courage and liberty, prosperity, truth, hope and life. and we saw him begin to rebuild this country. then we saw that rebuilding interrupted by the covid-19. so now we have a choice. a choice to continue the rebuilding, the revival, the renewing of this great land. new mexico is proud to vote for that renewal, that revival by casting its 22 votes for donald j. trump, the next president of

the united states of america! >> new mexico adding to president trump's total. not challenged at this convention in charlotte. sorry for the interruption to the panel. dana, the rnc member from new mexico there giving the state's votes to donald trump essentially framing what this convention is about. watching the democratic convention joe biden and the team want to say this is about the pandemic, from late january to today and what hthey view as donald trump's failed leadership in the pandemic. the democrats want this to be a referendum on the last seven months and then through the election on american life. you heard the new mexico delegate saying this country was doing great, the economy rebounded up until the pandemic and let's go back to those days. >> that's exactly right. we heard more broadly, we were listening while we were also in the coverage of the hearing, the postal hearing on capitol hill,

the vice president giving a real indicator of where the themes are going to be this week, talking a little bit about what we heard from the gentleman from new mexico, but even kind of at a higher level about the fact that joe biden is part of the radical left, probably a term that can be easily used for a drinking term this coming week. then we heard about lower taxes, about as you say getting the economy back on but also, they're trying to frame it as freedom, as an idea that democrats will curb and will put the screws on your freedoms and we will make sure that that won't happen. i think that is the kind of thing that the vice president was talking about and that is the kind of thing that we are going to hear as the through line throughout this week. one of the things you can't miss is law and order.

the vice president talked about the thin blue line of law enforcement, back the blue, back the blue is another term i think we will hear a lot this week as the prime time events begin to start. >> reminiscent in many ways, people drawn the comparison, my first campaign 1988, dukakis with a lead and then george h.w. bush with a law and order campaign and look at the philadelphia suburbs, cleveland suburbs 32 years ago. i was talking about how it's a trump party now, so much so the president will appear every night. the family members speaking just about every night. missing are republicans to expect to see at a convention this close to the election. we are now ten weeks away. endangered republican senators like of colorado and maine. traditionally see the party saying we have embattled incumbents, give them a boost

and a national profile but the trump party doesn't work that way. >> exactly. republican senators that you mentioned, also missing from the list are the previous living presidents and mitt romney and george w. bush not on the speaking list for this -- more surprising -- republican senators not in a speaking list is tom till lis of north caroli. remember, the republican festivities are in charlotte north carolina so for the home state senator not to have a position is -- a speaking position -- republican national convention is a pretty -- surprising move and do see while republican senators can't completely extricate themselves from trump he is the top of the ticket, you see how they're trying to distance themselves in their campaign back home and focusing on their own record.

>> especially in north carolina, a state where they have the convention and had special permission to put the delegates in the convention hall. but the numbers still pretty high in north carolina. stand by. we're tracking the republican nation a national convention. you see the count. donald trump the incumbent president is the republican nominee now officially for 2020. also tracking that contentious hearing for the postmaster general. we'll be right back. when we started carvana, they told us

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welcome back. the proceedings at the republican national convention beginning today in north carolina. the president of the united states renominated just moments ago. donald trump officially not just the incumbent president but the republican nominee for 2020 and will speak momentarily. meantime, let's continue the conversation. cnn's ryan nobles at the convention site for us.

dana bash and sung min kim join us, as well. ryan, dana was noting the heavy law and order emphasis. the interesting thing to watch will be do they try to project a big tent like the democrats did with republican speakers? so far you look at the speaking lineup tonight is the mcclosky's, a couple from midwest who had weapons drawn. mark was on fox news this morning explaining why he decided to walk into that confrontation. >> we have a god-given right to defend ourselves, right of self defense is a basic civil rights, human rights, and that the world, that you cannot have freedom and an opportunity to advance unless you have basic safety and security and that it's not just limited to big

cities. they bring it to a neighborhood near you. >> that sounded very almost like a president himself talks about that all the time saying you e lebl elect joe biden you'll bring crime to the suburbs. >> reporter: the thing that the trump campaign tried to do is amplify the culture wars to try to drive angst particularly among suburban voters and the president is falling behind in polls and with a big tent image, you really see the republicans kind of retreat to these building block issues that president trump is championing for four years in office and even when they will present speakers what come from diverse spectrum, a number of african-american speakers tonight, including senator scott from south carolina, one of the prominent speakers tonight, they

talk about things in this vein that president trump is talking about. right? they will echo that law and order sentiment, talk about the issui issues having to do with inner cities and democrat-led cities and the leadership that's led to the violence and unrest in many of the places and it's not necessarily the diversity of thought we got from the democratic convention a week ago but fall in line with what president trump is talking about this time and stoking those culture wars that president trump does as good as any politician. >> that is a reflection, dana, of the trump presidency and advisers telling him to dial it back, can't tweet as much, have a softer tone. but the president resists that because what he says is it's the same people that said he can't win in 2016 and he did. a lot of immigration, law and

order. a challenge is the party of trump this is right now. the president will speak every night. donald trump jr. will speak, eric trump, ivanka trump, tiffany trump. who we heard from this weekend is the president's older sister, maryanne trump barry, a federal judge with the secretly recorded audios by her niece with a scathing rebike of her brother saying he is a liar, a fraud and hearing the immigration policy she reacted this way. >> all he wants to do is appeal to his base. he has no principles. none. none. and his base, i mean, my god, if you were a religious person you want to help people. not do this. >> these tapes and stories about them released on the weekend between the democratic and republican convention. just a scathing character attack

on the president from the older sister. a goal of the president is to move on and change the topic as soon as possible. >> yeah. these are scathing is a really good word to use to describe. cringeworthy. it is kind of remarkable when you think about it. if you play the game, imagine if this is anybody else but trump, this would be all we would be talking about and the president would have to react over and of and over again and that would be the issue dominating but this is another data point in an existing narrative that has been there since he came down the escalator in june of 2015. and the president and the people around him understand that and what's fascinating to me is that something even close to analogous to this is "access

hollywood" tape four years ago and democrats and a lot of republicans said, game over. the democrats in particular have learned and they have watched a tape like this and said, okay, not great but certainly not a game changer. and they understand on the democratic side and also on the trump side that this kind of thing is baked in to the trump chashl character, the trump story even if it is his own sister doing this which is why you're going do see the republicans try to keep it big picture about you think you really want to fire this guy? think about who you're going to hire and if you want to hire joe biden and define him the way that they want him to be defined as opposed to what we heard the last week about why donald trump should be kicked out of office or should not get a second term. >> that's why the nights are critical for the republicans and then debate season in this

condensed democratic race with the coronavirus but one of the most fascinating parts is how the two teams at the moment decided to go about this differently. you see the vice president and the president. hearing from the president in charlotte. they're out in a room with delegates. many are not masks. the former vice president joe biden, running mate senator kamala harris will be cautious, careful. we think the best approach in a pandemic is not to do a lot of face to face campaigning. that in and of itself will be part of the contrast here. >> definitely. you saw -- president trump can't exactly replicate the big, massive rallies and convention halls for public health guidelines and the team is trying their hardest to replicate that in other ways that are plausible. i was traveling with him and one of the campaign events in pennsylvania last week and a

big, big venue outdoors, very, very enthusiastic supporters along the motorcade and at the facility but he did lose one of his most potent campaign tools and those are rallies and a lot of what you are seeing and how you see like each side approach their campaigns is kind of what their approach -- what each party's approach is to dealing with the virus. we have seen the president rosier than realistic projections on the future of the pandemic and how serious it was and the faster it returns to normalcy and the economy recovers the better for president trump and re-election chances and democrats focus on repeat last week the president's mismanagement of the pandemic. every statement from state parties, national parties, such a theme and they were pinning

the blame for how serious the pandemic has gone on president trump and the longer the rev n referendum on the president the better if the democrats. >> let's listen to the warm-up act from the vice president. he spoke a short time ago. he says give the president four more years and you get this. >> remember, it's going to be four more years, that means more jobs. four more years means more judges. four more years means more support for our troops and our cops. and it's going to take at least four more years to drain that swamp. >> ryan nobles there on the scene. i think drain the swamp pledge from the trump administration, we have three and a half years

of watching people associated with trump do their own business in washington. that's a tough one to sell. no question especially to the republican base the president has a strong argument to judges. democrats don't like it but he kept his promise to judges and the republicans that hold the nose at the personal behavior say we want to keep this going and the jobs parts is the fascinating question in the ten weeks to come. the vice president saying four more years means more jobs. because of the pandemic there are 11.5 million fewer americans working today than were working in january, just before the pandemic hit. the question for the president is can he change the numbers and e even if he does will voters give him credit? >> i think you see mike pence playing a specific role in the campaign, john. this is similar to the role he was tasked with put on the ticket four years ago and that is to reach out to the more

traditional republican, the conservative republican, the socially conservative republican and send out the talking points that make them feel comfortable to re-elect donald trump and did the same thing four years ago, talking about judges and the economy and law and order. he is doing it in a different way and a different approach than president trump might do and everyone if you're a republican that isn't a fan of the president's tweets, concerned of his character, you see in mike pence perhaps more of yourself and you see mike pence aligned himself with president trump then maybe it's still okay for you to support president trump and this is specifically pushing back the group of so-called never trumper. all these different groups that have been really pushing hard against president trump and even differently than four years ago have taken the step to endorse vice president biden. we saw a group of former

republican members of congress come out today to say they support joe biden and mike pence's job here to remind you if you are republican that if you vote for vice president biden you are voeting for a suie of issues you don't necessarily support with abortion rights, taxes, cops, guns. easte so this is mike pence telling you as a republican you may not be comfortable with president trump but the alternative is worse and it's a broader effort to make it a choice election between vice president biden and between donald trump as opposed to just a simple referendum on donald trump's last four years in office. >> i'll take you into the room now. state of florida. donald trump from florida but new york and the chairwoman tossing to florida. >> including 45th president of the united states donald trump. we are known as the sunshine

state. we have the best beaches in the world. they're is i could to none. we have a great economy and no income tax. we believe in the great american comeback. and we believe there's one leader that will deliver us prosperity once again, to defend the rule of law and that will bring great things back to our country. florida's home to america's number one anti-communist freedom fighter marco rubio, number one senator in terms of the economy and jobs and making washington work for us again, senator rick scott and governor ron desantis signing the strongest sanctuary city ban in the entire country and he welcomes over 1,000 people a day from failed leadership states like new york including individuals like our new favorite son donald j. trump. it is a -- for the 122 delegates

that are back at home and the over 5 million republicans that we have registered and it is an honor for us to award florida's 122 delegate votes to the next president of the united states, to delay his full-time relocation back to his home state of florida, donald j. trump for the president of the united states. >> the state of florida casts 122 votes for donald j. trump for president. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming the president of the united states of america, and our nominee, donald j. trump! ♪ and i'm proud to be an american where at least i know i'm free ♪ ♪ and i won't forget the men who died who gave that life to me ♪ ♪ and i gladly stand up

♪ next to you and defend her still today ♪ ♪ because there ain't no doubt i love this land ♪ ♪ god bless the usa >> thank you very much. thank you. >> oklahoma loves you. mr. trump. >> thank you very much. >> [ chanting "four more years" ] >> now, if you want to really drive them crazy, you say 12 more years. because we caught them doing some really bad things in 2016. let's see what happens. we caught them doing some really bad things. we have to be careful because they're trying it again with this whole 80 million mail-in ballots that they're working on.

sending them out to people that didn't ask for them. they didn't ask. they just get them. and it's not fair and it is not right and it is not going to be possible to tabulate in my opinion. it's just my opinion. we have to be very, very careful and you have to watch, every one of you, you have to watch because bad things happened last time with the spying on our campaign and that goes to biden and that goes to obama. and we have to be very, very careful, and this time they're trying to do it with a whole post office scam. they'll blame it on the post office. you can see them sending it up. be careful and watch it carefully because we have to win. this is the most important election in the history of our country. this is the most -- do you know -- for a long period of time, i would say, well, 2016, how special was that evening? was that one of the great -- that was one of the great

evenings but we have to be very, very careful and we have to win. our country is kourcounting on . this is the biggest. the country can go in a horrible, horrible direction or even a better direction. before the plague came in from china we were going in a direction like we had never seen. the most successful economy in the history of our country. the best unemployment numbers in history. for african-american, asian-moern, hispanic-american. women. college students. bad students, good students, everybody. if you had a diploma, if you didn't, didn't matter. you were doing well. everybody was doing well. and we were actually coming together. success brings people together. maybe better than anything else. so many times they say we're

divided. we were very divided under president obama. very divided. people have no idea how divided. they didn't talk about it as much, didn't say it as much, but we were really coming together. and i was speaking with democrats all of a sudden because the success, markets were at an all-time high. by the way, take a look at what's happening with the markets. the 401(k) which you probably do every hour. take a look at the stocks. we are very close to breaking the record and nasdaq has already done it. nasdaq has broken the record i think 16 times already. during a pandemic. hopefully we'll call it the final phase of a pandemic. you know? biden the other day said, no, he would shut it down. listen to some guy say and shut it down. we just broke a record on jobs. all-time record. there's never been three months

where we have put more people to work. over 9 million people and again we're just about ready to break the all-time stock market record. you look at it. we're just about ready to zo do again. everything will follow. very smart on wall street. the economy is coming up very rapidly. the farmers are doing well. the farmers are doing well because i got china to give them $28 billion because they were targeted by china. i got the farmers $28 billion. 16 and 12. that's why so in spite of the pandemic and our farmers did a great job in supplies food and the difficulties during this period of time. but we're getting ready to do things like nobody's ever seen before. but the best way to bring unity is success. success brings unity. and we were there.

and then we got hit with the plague. but we won't forget that. i just want to thank the people of north carolina because to be honest with you i felt an obligation to be here. you have a governor who's in a total shutdown mood. i guarantee on november 4th it will all open up. it will be fine like most other states. november 4th, you know, these democrat governors love shutdown until after the election is down to make the numbers look as bad as possible for the economy but the numbers are looking so good and frankly i used to say a "v" and people say i don't know, i don't think so. we have a super "v." you're right. it is now looking like it's a super "v." our automobile numbers are incredible. used cars and brand new cars. manufacturing number is incredible. putting the manufacturing jobs to work that the previous administration said you need a magic wand. you need a magic wand for manufacturing jobs. i don't think so.

i guess we had the magic wand. we are putting them again back. we are bringing them back. but think of your life just prior to the plague coming in. it was the best it's ever been. your state had the best numbers they have ever had. by far. we had the best employment numbers also. we were up to 160 million jobs. we were never anywhere near that. and then we had to shut it down and saved millions and millions of lives. we learned the enemy, all about the invisible enemy. how it affects really people that are older especially. the elderly. but older people with problems, with heart, with diabetes, with other problems and we learned and most of the country is right now doing very, very well. they have done an incredible job and to have a man sitting on television the other day say,

oh, i'd shut it down like it's easy. when you shut it down, we did the exact right thing, we shut it down and then reopened and we're well into it. [ applause ] if we didn't shut it down at that point we will have millions of people dead. millions of people. you see the numbers, the i don't know that mike pence and the task force and all of us together have done has been incredible, what we have done, what we have achieved, whether it's ventilators, whether it's supplying equipment to governors that were totally ill prepared. many of the governors totally ill prepared. the governors are supposed to do it. many of them did a fine job. many of them came back well. but most of them didn't have the equipment that they should have had. few of them had the ventilators which are very, very complex machines and hard to make and hard to manufacture.

and expensive. and we're right now making thousands of ventilators a month and we are sending them, we have all we can use. our whole country, every state, we are stocked. we are stocked. i'll say it again. never a person that needed a ventilator that didn't get a ventilator. every single person that's ever needed a ventilator with all that you have heard with how much, you know, they said we didn't have, again, i took over a country whose military was depleted and whose cupboard on this front were bare. the cupboards were bare. we didn't have anything. we didn't have a thing. we are had very, very little. we did a great job. we haven't been given and it is not for me, it is the incredible people, the generals, the admirals, the doctors, the nurses. and yet you saw yesterday convalescent plasma.

you saw remdesivir. you will soon see vaccines pouring out. years aheads of what they would have been under a more traditional, let's use that term because it's nicer. a more traditional administration where they would have taken years to come up with this stuff. we are coming up with it like nobody's ever seen before. the fda, dr. hahn, i want to thank him. alex azar, i want to thank him. they have come with things and done things that have never been done in terms of speed. and frankly, in terms of quality. if you look at what we're doing and what we're coming up with, drug companies are coming out with vaccines that are, i have seen some results already. it is going to be very, very soon. they're in stage three trials. it is unheard of. we wouldn't be there for two years if this were a more normal situation. [ applause ] i want to thank everybody for being here. i felt an obligation to come to

north carolina. its's been a place that's been very good to me. we won a lot of victories here. i haven't been doing this that long and i won every chance i had and in north carolina i everyone stole a great chief of staff, mark meadows. right? i stole him from north carolina. he left congress as a very popular guy. he came in and by the way you have a fantastic young gentleman going to take his place. he is a fantastic, young guy and he is going to be a real star in the party so i just want to thank everybody from north carolina and i do want to show a little bit of a difference because another state that's been very good to me is wisconsin. joe biden was going to have their convention in milwaukee and they didn't go there at all.

they didn't do this. we did this out of respect for your state. respect for the state of north carolina. because we said we wanted to hold the convention in north carolina and i think you will remember that on november 3rd. we wanted to hold our convention in north carolina. so i did that out of respect. and if you had a governor that would have let us have some people, he actually told me this. we had an arena that holds 19,000 people, totally jammed, every hotel full, everything. i called him and he said but we have a shutdown going on and according to the rules and regulation -- this is 19,000. he did say it. i don't think he'll deny it but he said according to the rules and regulations the most people you're allowed to have in that room, meaning that arena, he viewed it as a room is 10 people. i said 19,000.

you are at 10. can we work something in the middle? it didn't sound too good. so we really had no choice. it was a terrible thing and i felt so badly because economic development money, all of the things that happen but we decided, i was with rona and the vice president, everybody, mark, and we said, let's have our big deal, the roll call, let's have it right here and let's do it and i'm going to show up and not tell anybody. until a few minutes ago nobody knew i was coming. right? nobody knew i was coming. [ applause ] but what's more important than the roll call? you are the ones calling it. what's more important? >> we love you! >> so i have to tell you, we will do a lot of things. very briefly, we'll make a speech on thursday night. i hope you all will be listening. >> yeah! [ applause ] >> because i came in and i'm on air force one and more televisions than any plane in

history. they have got them in closets, on ceilings, floors, they have got more -- you can't escape a tell vgs. i turned to cnn and they didn't have this. they weren't having it. can you believe it? no, no. cnn didn't have our roll call. and i turned to msdnc as i call it. msdnc, a branch of the democrats. right? it is a -- i wouldn't say fully owned corporation but certainly a fully controlled or they control them. nobody really knows who's controlling who but you know they had it on television. i remember watching it. it was interesting. you see the different states and we say this and we say that. the great state of alaska, the great state of alabama, the great state of north carolina, the great state of all of them and very interesting to me. they had theirs on. but they didn't show it. instead they show the scam

because they're trying to show the post office so when the whole mail-in thing fizzles they try to blame it on the post office and showing the hearings that are very boring actually and not showing this either. not showing this. and fox had it on but unfortunately fox wasn't showing it too much with the announcers talking, talking, talking. i said i want to hear the delegates. so i think we had to switch over to c-span or to oan or somebody but i wanted to hear them. but i can promise you -- i can promise you a few things. we will not be taking the word god out of the pledge of allegiance. okay? [ applause ] like they did a number of times at their caucuses so they took the word god out. i heard it. i was listening. i said that's strange. sort of weird. you have heard it all your life,

right? under god. under god. those two words are missing. i said, oh, he must have made a mistake. he must have -- maybe the teleprompter wasn't working or the book i have right here. something wasn't working. the problem was then the next day i heard it again. i said that's not a mistake. and then they immediately went into a mode, oh no, no, no. we didn't say it for the convention. that's where they're coming from. you can say it or not say it. that is where they're coming from. just like with energy. they don't want energy. not working well in texas by the way. just looked at a poll. by the way, just came out that we have received 51% in the big and very important rasmussen poll and the numbers went up during the democratic national

convention. 51%. so think of it. think of it. [ chanting "four more years" ] >> thank you. i love this state! i like this place. you're from all over the place but this has been a good, a good one for me. no, but think of it. 51% in rasmussen. did you hear about it? they do the suppression polls instead of most likeliful its's supposed to be likely to vote. i ee i'm not voting. under the plan to send the ballots you don't have to want to vote. you get the ballot and then they they have harvesting. guys do you want to vote?

not really but i have a ballot. who is it for? sleepy joe biden. put it here. could i have it? tay take it. harvesting is illegal in your state. they wanted to putt a republica, a fine man, a pastor, put him in jail and now make it illegal. they'll put him in jail as a republican. right? if he was a democrat they wouldn't think about it. in california they do the same thing. no repercussion. in north carolina you had a fine pastor, a fine man, they got him on harvested and wanted to put in jail. so people will be sitting there, making them if you talk about 80 million ballots, could be higher than that. i used to 51 million and now 80 million. they said you're obs leeolete w the 51.

what is it? they said 80. they'll be dumping in neighborhoods, people are going to be picking them up, bribing, paying off people to grab some. this is going to be one of the greatest scams and common sense. nothing to do with politics. anybody -- you don't have to know politics. they'll mail out 80 million ballots. it is impossible. they have no idea. when's mailing them? mostly democratic states and governors. supposing they don't mail them to republican neighborhoods? they won't get it and then complain and then the election is over and say we didn't get it. big deal? you might lose the election. this is the greatest scam in the history of politics i think and i'm talking about beyond our nation. and they act like they're

agrieved. like we are saying such a horrible thing. we not patriotic by saying this. we voted during world war i. we voted at the voting booth during world war ii. the pandemic we're doing very well and people know how to handle it. look at the crowds. doing very well. very safe. going to be very safe. if you have an absentee ballot where you request it, we are all in favor of that. absentee like in florida. they have absentee is good. but other than that, they're very, very bad. they'll be millions of ballots. take a look at new york, virginia, new jersey. different cases. they had one last night, now they think about recalling certain elections that took place with mail-in. small, lirttle elections that ae easy to return. not millions bub thousands of ballots. hundreds of ballots but small and they can't control it.

they said 23% of the ballots were defective. what is defective? fraud. it means -- >> you have been listening to the president speak at the republican convention after being no, ma'am natded for president by the party after vowing to have a positive convention, the president goes negative in the first moments started to attack mail-in voting and continuing to do and as the postmaster general testifies that the attacks are unhelpful. that's his own postmaster general. he criticized the media for airing the postmaster general's hearing instead of the roll call and accused democrats to shut down the country to hurt the economy and help them at the ballot box. unclear how that would help them in the ballot box, attacked north carolina's governor for putting limits on a crowd. hear now john king, dana bash,

ryan nobles. it is sort of all the most recent greatest hits and false statements by the president and i imagine what we will hear a lot this week from the president who clarely wants to be out front every single day. >> underscores the challenge for us in the news business and really for people watching at home if you are a voter who has not decided, not firm in the decision, to watch the next four days because this is a sad thing to say but what you heard from the president of the united states is wrong, misleading or outright lies. and the president knows that. he came in with a script, started with a rift. decided to talk about himself. all the points you were just making about the mail-in voting, states have done this for years including republican states, increases turnout, very little fraud. the president knows that. look at utah, colorado, washington state and now in the middle of a pandemic just about every state says we need more

mail-in voting. the states administer the elections. not only sending ballots to the republicans or democrats. secretaries of state tend to operate on a bipartisan basis. a number of other things, the president talking about the economy. i'll just say this again. he did have a strong economy. if you take the pandemic out of this, right? to be fair to the president there are 11.5 million fewer americans working today than in january 2020 because of the pandemic. be fair to the president. take 2020 off the map. in the final four months of the obama administration, 7.1 million jobs. 5.8 million jobs in the beginning of the trump administration and you can conclusion that the trump economy stronger than the obama economy. it was not like the economy was

dead. the president inherited a very strong, vibrant, robust job creating economy and he likes to convince people he walked into a ditch and somehow turned around. you mentioned the shutdown. if the states reopen more quickly, we know what happened when the states started to reopen. that's when we had the summer surge of coronavirus cases and why the poll numbers are so bad and criticizing the governors saying they're keeping the states closed to hurt him politically they say and account to believe the people they did that to try to save lives. >> dana, to john's point, i spoke to the secretary of state in washington state who's a republican, she was on my program last week or two weeks ago. they have -- they mail out ballots to every household in the state. she said it doesn't impact republicans or democrats any differently. it's not -- doesn't favor a party over the other and the millions of v