so, why was miller fired? >> anderson, we don't know. but certainly if she had any role in what happened with announcing theemergency use authorization for convalescent plasma, that may be the issue. her boss, the head of the food and drug administration a medical doctor, one of the highest ranking physicians in this country got up and made a huge mistake. it wasn't murky, wasn't grey. it was black and white. he gave a statistic that made it sound like convalescent plasma was way more effective than the data shows. so, perhaps she played a role in that and that's what's going on. we don't know. >> obviously we saw a large crowd at the white house last night, hardly anyone wearing a mask. in the platform and the crowd seem to be wearing masks and we heard al sharpton from the

podium saying people, spread out a little bit more. people are not social distancing at this demonstration. this has to make public health experts nervous. >> for sure. anytime you see a crowd and they are not social distancing and you don't see uniform mask use, that is very worrisome. is it better they're outside than inside? yes, it is. however, it's problematic when you see people grouped together like that. the likelihood of demonstration but certainly uniform mask use. >> thanks very much. it's just past the top of the hour. thousands take part in a new march for justice for change.

today's march coming 57 years after martin luther king jr., when they brought a similar message. reverend king talked then about the polite of americans crippled by the change of discrimination. there was a call for civil rights. today the struggle continues. >> less than a year before he was assassinated, my grandfather predicted this very moment. he said that we were moving into a new phase of the struggle. the first phase was the civil rights and the new phase is genuine equality. >> martin luther king stood here 57 years ago and he told the world his dream. but i don't think you know that we're here right now and have the power to make the happen. >> that was the sister of george floyd. nearly six decades later black americans are still searching

for equal justice. this at the end of a tumultuous week where we saw a man shot point blank range by a white police officer, adding his name to the growing list of those killed at the hand of police. some of the others whose names have been spoken by speakers and demonstrators are today. sanchez is there among the marchers. what is the feeling there? >> well, anderson, there's a tremendous amount of pain, of frustration and hope in the form of a call to action. and that call to action is for people to take to the ballot box. and whatever form they have to in november to vote. just behind me the march from the lincoln memorial is set to get underway in moments. they're heading to the mlk monument just down the mall. all morning we've been hearing painful stories. you noted some of the speakers we've had, the family of jacob blake is here, of erick gardner,

as well as brianna taylor. we've also heard from prominent law makers, omar and congressman al green. and on top of that, we heard from martin luther king iii. his speech, the culmination of this event. and you noted concerns about coronavirus. we had to have our temperature taken to get into this part of the mall. they also made sure we were wearing masks. the concern is with so many people in such an inclosed space, it may be impossible to avoid the virus. what i've heard, speaking to demonstrators, is essentially the message of social justice outweighs any of the risks of this pandemic. and so, they're looking to send a message as they look to get this march underway to the mlk monument, specifically across the street where president trump accepted the nomination from the republican party last night and

running his re-election. >> and we're seeing some people wearing masks and some not. and obviously social distancing not really happening here. thank you very much. >> the 17-year-old suspect in a fatal shooting of four people in kenosha, wisconsin is scheduled in court next month. accused of opening fire on protesters during a night of unrest after the police shooting of jacob blake. we're learning more about the final moments leading up to the deadly confrontation and what happened after. what have you learned? in a court filing they list a lot of details on how they came about the charges and gathering evidence. and a lot of it relied on what we have seen. the video posted on social media and how they pieced it all

together. what they write in this criminal complaint is how a lot of the victims were trying to protect themselves in some ways because they were concerned about the 17-year-old and the way he was handling this long gun. one of the witnesses said it seemed as though the 17-year-old didn't know what he was doing and the other victims talked about how they were trying to get this large gun away from kyle rittenhaus. and they say they spoke to a friend of kyle, who said he called him in the moments after inshooting and admitted to him that he killed someone. and described how he was seated on the ground firing as someone was approaching him and one of those victims getting shot. they list a lot of details on how they brought the case against him. the other thing, anderson, and i think there's more to come, that

they charged him with possessing a dangerous weapon as a minor. you have to be 18. so there, are questions about how he came into possession of this weapon, anderson. >> it would seem his attorneys are going to argue he was trying to defend himself, he was trying to hit him with a skateboard after he already shot one other person. i think the person shot and wounded seemed to have a pistol in his hand. seems like there will be ane effort to make it look as though he's defending himself? >> reporter: absolutely. they've already made that clear. one of his attorneys, john pierce, conservative attorney, well known in the conservative arena, has already came out and said they intend to fight this

and they intend to say this was self defense. there's a lot that you can argue in court about the idea that this 17-year-old has this kind of a weapon, just should not have happened. if you read the complaint, there could be an argument from prosecutors that he was the aggressor and the other people were trying to defend themselves. one of the victims was using a skateboard to try and defend himself. that person died. and in the complanlt, they talk about another victim who had a gun a pistol in his hand. but what they say is this person raised his hands with the gun in his right hand and he was raising his hands and that rittenhaus still shot him. there's a lot there and obviously this is something, as you say, likely will go to trial and will be for a jury to decide. >> appreciate it. thank you. after being shot in the back seven times by police, jacob

blake's family is obviously praying for his recovery. blake's family says jacob is paralyzed, currently shackled to his hospital bed, according to his father. his family continues to pray. one is offering his advice. in november 2012, leon ford was pulled over by pittsburgh police, who mistook him for a suspect with a similar name. he was shot five times. he survived. one of a the bullets has pierced his spine. he's been helping ever since victims and their families. i can't imagine what it must be like to suddenly learn about jacob blake's situation, so similar, in ways too, yours and the end result. when you first saw it, what went through your mind? >> when i first saw it, it really triggered me and reminded me of my experience so, even

jacob's paralysis is similar to what i went through. his experience in the hospital. when i woke up, i was shackled to the bed. my family had to hire an attorney to file a motion to figure out where is leon and how can we get this family to see him? my mom could not see me. my attorney filed a motion to get my mom access to the hospital. i remember my mom trying to kiss me and the officer screamed at her and said don't touch him. my mom wasn't even allowed to touch me when my lawyers filed the court order to grant her access to see me. >> you were shackled in the hospital bed? >> yes. i was shackled to the hospital bed and i was on 24 -- under 24-hour security.

>> i know you tweeted that when you get shot by police officer and die, your family suffers but when you get shot and survive with paralysis, you suffer. what advice do you have for mr. blake, for his family? >> i would say, you know, i would encourage the family to focus on healing. i know there's this immediate responsibility to speak out and lead a movement but we have to focus on jacob's physical rehabilitation. i know his attorneys are going to focus on the legal aspect of things. but his family really needs to heal. their world has been altered. i wanted to encourage jacob that he is not a burden to his family or friends to embrace the love too, embrace the support and

just take his time. it's going to be a roller coaster for anyone with a life altered shift with paralysis, you really -- you know, you're trying to find your new normal. takes about three to four years to really figure out and master how you're going to live your life. during that three to four years, i mean -- i had moments i didn't want to live. i had moments where i had to question am i a good father because i can't run with my son? i couldn't hold my son. in the beginning. so t was -- it's going to be a tough process. it's going to be a hard journey for him and his family. because he has to adapt to a new normal and his family does as well. >> the night your son was being born, you were in the same

hospital, i understand, recovering from being shot? i mean, i can't imagine -- i mean, as you said to not be able to hold your son. >> yeah, it was so traumatic. and it's interesting because i've been going to therapy for about a year now and that has really helped me become a better father. i realize i couldn't be fully present as a father up until this year because i was dealing with so much trauma as a result of me being shot by this police officer. and so, a lot of times people think about me going through therapy and having this platform. smiling all the time. but they didn't fully understand the scope of my adversity, the scope of the trauma that i experienced from that night and what i still experience today. i always tell people i go to therapy because i need

maintenance. i need maintenance to help me cope with my experience, as well as the continuation of me being exposed to other police shootings. it's extremely traumatic for me and it's traumatic for our country. i encourage everyone to be mindful of self caring and healing because what we're seeing is not normal but it is our reality. >> yeah. i really appreciate you speaking with us today and speaking about therapy and speaking about the continued road that you're on and thank you for all the work you're doing. >> thank you. i appreciate you. >> leon ford. coming up next, we're going to hear from jacob blake's father, whose son is handcuffed to the bed asking why police shot him so many times. and kenosha's past remarks about black people are under

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one of today's marchers is jac jacob blake sr. earlier today, blake gave an emotional interview to allison, who talked about finally getting to see his son in the hospital and realizing his now paralyzed son was handcuffed to his hospital bed. >> how is your son doing, mr. blake?

um, for the situation, he's doing -- let's make it very clear my son is fighting for his life. he's holding on. he's holding on. he's medicated pretty much all the time. >> so, he's sedated and medicated because, as i understand, he's in so much pain. have you been able to speak to him? >> yes. i got two days ago i got to speak to him. >> can you tell us about that conversation and what he said. >> um, at first his eyes were andi squinted when i walked into the room and i thought it was because he was in pain but when i got to his side, he grabbed my

hands and began to weep and he told me that he was hallucinating. and then he said i love you, daddy. daddy, i love you. >> it must be so hard to see him in this condition. >> yes. and his next question was why did they shoot me so many times? and i said baby, they weren't supposed to shoot you at all. the thing that bothered me the most is that my child is -- there's so many things that bothered me but when i walked into that room, he's paralyzed from the waist down. why do we have the chrome steel on my son's ankle? he can't get up. he couldn't get up if he wanted

to. so, that's a little overkill to have him shackled to the bed. that just makes no sense to me. so, you know, he was -- it was the oldest in the car was eight and the youngest in the car was three. >> and have you talked to them? >> oh, they're with me every day. >> what do they say? how are they -- >> the oldest every day, his question is daddy -- they call me papa. and all my grand kids call me papa or pop pop. so said papa, why did they shoot my daddy in the back? where's daddy? they want their father. because he was a part of their life every day. he's a person. he's a human being.

he's not an animal. he's a human. my son has not been afforded the rights of a human. he's not been treated like a human. he's a father. he's not a deadbeat dad. he's a father. that's with his children every day. >> blake also talked about coping with unequal justice, comparing how his son was treated to how the 17-year-old white teen charged with killing two protesters. and just in the ratings for the final night of the republican convention are in. what the numbers tell us how many people watched. when we started carvana, they told us

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father said, shackled to his hospital bed. what do we know about this warrant or the charges against him? >> reporter: so we're finally hearing from the sheriff's office in kenosha county and they say the reason he's shackled is because he has felony warrants on him and they say that this kind of classification, that anyone with this classification that we are guarding in the hospital would be treated in this manner. so, they're arguing it's protocol, essentially and that is why they're doing it. but you have to question this kind of protocol, given the condition that mr. blake is in. we know he's paralyzed. he can't leave. so t would be natural to raise questions on why you need shackle him and because it's protocol doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. but that's what they're argue.

and an incident on sunday, they knew there may be a person there that was wanted on a warrant. i listened to the radio transmissions and the entire incident that lasted minutes. we knew jacob blake was going to be there and they went in knowing they were probably going to be and how and why it escalated to the point where we see officers pulling their gun and obviously shooting him. >> in the official report, was that taser was deployed, didn't work and then that's when the video took up of blake moving from one side of the car to the other. do we know what the warrant was for? >> reporter: so, he has a prior

domestic abuse case according to the court records in kenosha county and that's what it is for. appears he had not appeared in court. and that's what it appears. the thing is a lot of this we have to find on our own and we have good teams on this because officials hava officials havant been sharing any information about why they were there. it's things we have to find on our own and dig up. and that's how we're lirn learning some of this. this morning they released information that two officers tased him and that did not contain him. again, we don't know what happens after that. what was said. and they needed to pull their weapons. >> appreciate it. more to learn, obviously. as health officials worry about the spread of coronavirus in the

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protesters marching in the capital. today's march announced months ago but happening days after a white police officer shot jacob black in the back seven times. it is the latest incident in which a black man was shot by police and demanded for change in the streets of america. today's protest coming 57 years

to the day after martin luther king jr. led the march on washington, delivering his i have a dream speech. we'll check in with brian todd who is the at march. >> reporter: the crowds are starting to march from the lincoln memorial to the martin luther king jr. memorial plaza and filing in as we speak. first i want to talk to a marchers. la mika, this is your first ever march or protest ever in your life. >> yes. >> reporter: what motivated you to come. >> i've never been part of a protest ever before. and i want to come be part of the history. >> want i want my voice to be h. and we need to come as one like a village. i just want to be part of history. i wanted to be here. as many of the voices, i want to be one of them. >> reporter: now george floyd's family and jacob blake's family

have spoken and they have said in speeches this is the moment for change. if they don't do it now, they don't know whether they could do it. are you hopeful that the change in police reform will come from moments like this or are you skeptical? >> no, i think in the long run, with protesters, even if they don't protest regularly, with this march here, change is coming. change is definitely coming because there is only so much you could say and do before somebody gives in. >> reporter: thank you. great to talk to you. and congratulations for being here for your first time. i'm going to show you the crowds. they have started marching in earnest. thousands of people coming from the lincoln memorial and that is a much tighter space than the lincoln memorial and how much capacity is unknown and it is concerning that there are so many people jammed into a tight space back here. that is one thing that we're concerned about. but the message here very

positive and hopeful from people like la mika and others and they are hoping for change to happen. >> brian todd, appreciate you being there. we're learning four people have tested positive for coronavirus at the republican national convention in north carolina. two have tested positive upon arrival and were sent home and they joined the more than 5 million americans with coronavirus. last night we saw this, the president and vice president, about 1500 people gathering. few masks being worn in that crowd. it seemed like the u.s. is not experiencing the worst public health crisis in modern history. as i said few face masks and social distancing. a senior white house officials brushed off concerns telling cnn, quote, everybody is going to catch this thing eventually. let's talk about that with dr. rob davidson. emergency room physician and from the committee to protect

medicare. i wonder what you thought of the scene at the white house where there weren't many masks and the protests today, a lost people wearing masks, not social distancing, obviously not what it should be. >> yeah, i was very concerned about the white house event last night. 1500 people packed shoulder to shoulder. the head of the white house coronavirus task force in attendance without a mask with his family and his elderly mother without a mask and it is concerning. people weren't tested. only people in direct contact with president trump had testing done. and it is modeling bad behavior. juxtapose that to what is happening in washington, d.c., people are mostly wearing masks. true there is social distancing issues but this is a public health crisis, and the stemmic racism as taken so many lives in our country, if you were born black in this country, you have

a 3 1/2 year lifetime and you have a three times more chance of being shot by police than if you are white. so i think you do every risk mitigation that you can but we have to do the risk benefit analysis and those peoples are there doing something important today. >> excuse me. someone at the white house was saying eventually everybody is going to get this. i was surprised by that response. i wonder what you make of that? >> well i'm not surprised by their assessment of that. because clearly they're adhering to the recommendations of president trump and dr. scott atlas who is a neuroradiologists, probably hasn't done patient care and has no training in ep he had em eyology and they recommend that we should do social distancing and masks and the like.

i think the candor is surprising but the sentiment is not. i think they've been thinking this, at least the president and vice president pence has been for a long time. >> the coronavirus model is 170,000 deaths by december and they pointed out tens of thousands lives could be saved if the percentage of people wearing masks and social distancing increased. >> we could save 90,000 american lives if 95% of people wore masks by the end of the year. that is such a huge number of american lives that could be saved and the fact that this president will not issue a mask mandate just speaks to the people that he's listening to, folks like scott atlas instead of dr. fauci. >> do you think majority of americans have accepted this idea of that we are in the middle of a pandemic or do you think the numbers have now just washed over people and this is gone on so long and people are

so sick of it, there is this mindset of let's go about our business and see what happens? >> it depends on people you're talking to and where they get their source of news. we saw 21.5 million people watch the president. i think many of those people who support him probably think this is no big deal and that is the sacrifice is less than the lives sacrificed if we cracked down and made people wear masks because that is what they're hearing from the president and his allies. if we talk to folks listening to dr. fauci and folks in the health field, we're very much concerned about it. over a thousand deaths in the last three days and 6% positivity rate of test despite decreasing in tests. we are in the middle of this. >> dr. rob davidson. thank you. >> thank you. i'll be back at 8:00 p.m. for 360 and our coverage

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this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to "the lead," i'm jake tapper. we begin with the national lead. thousands of people are in washington, d.c. for a new march on washington for racial equality coming 57 years to the day after dr. martin luther king jr.'s, i have a dream speech in which mlk demanded racial equality saying, quote, we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream. let frequently quoted but part of the speech from 57 years ago king saying that we can never be satisfied as long as black americans are victims of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. more than half a century later the