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nneka oguwumike, thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. the news continues right now. hi, everybody. thank you for joining me. we begin this hour with america in crisis. a warning, some of the video you're about to see is disturbing. the latest incident in portland. so far there have been no arrests. "new york times" reports the victims was wearing a hat from patriot prayer. that group is part of hundreds who participated in a caravan in
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support of president trump. the motorcade rode through the streets of portland. overnight president trump praised thought activists as patriots. >> i can tell you we are ready -- in fact the position is real really it's not this president who has said let's defund the police. it creates a safer community. >> as we learned that the president is planning to make a trip to kenosha on tuesday. it was just two days ago since two people were shot there.
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mike baker is a correspondent for "new york times." mike, thank you for joining us. you've been following your tweets. walk us through this. not only were you documenting it, you were actually hit by paintballs from trump supporters. >> yes. it really started out in the suburbs. there was a huge rally of trump supporters, a lot of people with trucks, flags on their trucks. their plan was to drive around the city's highways, not really get into downtown, but drive on the city's highways. a lot of that crowd broke up and did go downtown. when they got there, there was a growing crowd of protesters who were opposed to the presence of this large trump rally in the city, and it really devolved from tro.
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>> we saw the video of paintballs being fired from the back up pickup trucks. people throwing things back. there were at times cars or vehicles that were blocked and people getting out and fist fights happening in the streets. i mean, there was growing tension tensions there. it was also scattered throughout downtown with a lot of individual vehicles driving up and down streets. while police showed up a few times to redirection traffic or keep the groups apart, it was really so dispersed, it became
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something that they couldn't handle. >> talk about the police presence. how present was it? was it visible? what role, if any, were they playing? >> when the first part of the caravan showed up downtown, some of the protesters were on the bridges been to block, and the police then -- they were in and out throughout the night trying to keep the caravan, but it's -- and then they were downtown throughout the night and on scene of the shooting pretty soon after it happened. >> but they were outnumbered, obviously? >> i mean, we're talking about hundreds of counter-protesters and hundreds of trucks with trump flags on them going in all different directions. it seemed like they didn't have the capacity to spend the entire
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time period in downtown keeping all those different factions apart from each other. >> it is my understanding that you followed this motorcade that was showing support for president trump. what did you hear from them? you can hear some people exchanging verbal, i guess, assaults at each other, but what was their goal during this time? >> in talking to them, they wanted to show their presence. they felt like, you know, portland has been a place that has been controlledly the protesters, and they're supporting the president, wanting to go into portland to demonstrate that, and for some demonstrate there wasn't a fear going into downtown portland and having their say. certainty you can't see some people who had already brought guns to the protests, even in the suburbs they were open carrying, shouting down some of
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the activists who had come up to demonstrate against the protests. driving through downtown they had paintball guns in the trucks, ready for some sort of conflict in one arose. >> now knowing that the president will be there tuesday, do you anticipate that these groups, both those supporting trump and those who are not will only increase their presence with the president there on the ground? >> i mean, this has basically been the third consecutive weekend where we've had some sort of right-wing conflict with left-wing groups. it was two weeks ago, one of the right-wing demonstrators fired two gunshots out of his vehicle, according to authorities, and has been charged in that case. last weekend we saw open fighting in the streets from some far-right activists and aim left-win protesters. in that case you had one of the
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right-wing folks brandishing a gun. this has been three consecutive weekends of this happening, and certainly some violence like we saw last night that doesn't seem like seems to be not ending. >> mike baker, thank you so much for your reporting. it's important for our viewers to see. >> thank you. cnn has reached out to portland police for details on the victim, and any additional suspect information. portland police have not released further details on either. all of this comes as president trump continues he so-called law-and-order campaign in the run up to november. sara, what is the white house saying about the latest outbreak of violence? the president has tweeted over
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nearly 100 times this morning, either retweeting or tweeting on his own. what is the white house saying officially, though? >> reporter: the president has been retweeting posts on protests, but the theme has been to blame democratic leaders, as they decry the violence, despite the president's message, is unfor thing on his watched. here's chief of staff mark meadows this morning. >> we've over 200 anarchists, they conduct violent acts, and it is in democrat cities. you want to talk about donald trump's america, most of donald trump's america is peaceful. it is a democrat-led city in portland that we're talking
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about this morning, who just yesterday denied help once again from the federal government. so, listen, we need to get to the bottom of this. we need to make sure that we hold people accountable. >> now trump a >>. >> reporter: on friday, mayor wheater published a letter to trump saying, stay away, please. a couple hours later the president tweeted -- if the incompetent mayor of portland doesn't get control of the city and stop the around arcists and looters, we will go in and take care of the matter the way they should have been taken care of 100 days ago. in that letter, the portland mayor said the earlier dispatch of federal actually made things worse.
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>> we also know the president is preparing to visit the scene of another deadly protest shooting in kenosha, wisconsin. what are you learning about that trip? >> reporter: the president is heading to wisconsin tomorrow, expecting to immediate with law enforcement officers, survey some of the damage that occurred over the last week of protests, but wisconsin's governor is say the visit just won't be helpful. >> you look at the incendiary remarks that the president has made, they centered an entire convention around creating more animosity and division around what's going on in kenosha. i don't know how given any of the previous statements that he intense to be helpful. we absolutely don't need that right now. >> reporter: it's unclear whether the president will be meeting with the family of jacob blake while he's in kenosha.
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9 white house said at this point the president's schedule is still fluid. activists call on the white house to denounce the actions of a 17-year-old trump supporter. listen to what senator ron johnson told dana bash this morning when asked if he condemns the shooting. >> the 17-year-old accused of committing those two mohr murders was a trump supporter. >> it's a tragedy. >> do you condemn it? is. >> it's a tragedy. >> but do you condemn it? >> the entire situation is a tragedy. listen, i don't want to see any loss of life. the way you pry vent tragedies. but a tragedy could be a car accident or something -- >> but you don't allow peaceful -- you don't allow peaceful protests to turn siege into siege.
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listen, i don't want to see anybody lose their life. i don't want to see the violence continue. i don't want to see businesses burned down. i don't want to see economic destruction. i condemn it all. that condemnation to be 45 seconds. shimon prokopec joins me now. what are local officials say about the president's planned vif visit this week? >> reporter: are unhanes. some say there have been days of peacefulness and people coming together. much of them painting murals. a lot of the stores have been boarded up. the concern is, of course, that with the president coming here, it could incite people to act. there is concern here by the local council member who told or colleague sara sidner that it will provide further divisiveness in kenosha, any
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berg, the local council member, said it's not what the city needs right now. there's, of course, mixed feelings about it, but anytime the president goes somewhere, there's always concern, specifically with this president, with president trump, that perhaps it can aggravate situations. he said at this point he's only meeting with law enforcement. we don't know if the family of jacob blake is going to meet with him. just to put this into context, remember, trump won this state by less than 23,000 votes, and he was the first republican to within this county, kenosha county, in 44 years. of course, all of this playing out ahead of the november election. the we'll see what happens here. he's supposed to be here on tuesday. as we said, the city is preparing, the secret service will be here preparing. i think the next few days are
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going to tell us how people are going to react to this, bianna. >> the president wanting to ride on this law-and-order theme heading into the election. shimon, thank you so much. coming up, her father was brutally beaten by police decades ago. one of rodney king's daughters is joining with a major league baseball star to fight for change. and will democrats subpoena the nation's top spy chief to testify? then later fighting back against coronavirus, a great-grandmother reunited with her family five months after a hospital and reh rehab. she joins me live to discuss. that's straight ahead. (vo) businesses are always making choices.
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a top house democrat says it's possible that hi mae subpoena intelligence officials to testify. that comes one day after the office said it will no longer do in-person briefings. chairman adam schiff was asked about the controversy this morning on cnn. >> will you subpoena officials to appear in bub in a hearing before the election? >> that's certainly one of the tools we may use. i can't speak for what decision ultimately we'll make. that's a decision that will have to go to the speaker, but we will compel the intelligence community to give congress the information we need, also to speak plainly to the mesh
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people. dana, this information, this intelligent paid for by tax players doesn't belong to donald trump or the intelligence agencies, it belongs to the american people. let's bring in vivian salama. so why are democrats so upset about the end of these briefings they certainly shatter precedent in the past. s at least they will receive a written and not in-person briefings.
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to ensure inch essential the administration will do everything it can to protect the integrity of the electoral process. that's the issue at stake here. today you had chairman schiff and john ratcliffe on tv today. adam schiff arguing for in-person briefings. take a listen. >> you can make a written report, and you can state things in a written report their not correct. you can't be subject to questioning about it. this is the problem we've had. >> reporter: ratcliffe was on fox news, and ensures transparency. he says essential at the heart of this are leaks that were a big problem, particularly with
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classified information. take a listen. >> i reiterated to congress, look, i'm going to keep you fully and currently informed, as required by the law, but i also said we're not going to do a repeat of what happened a month ago, when i did more than what was required at the request of congress, to brief every member of congress. when i did that, maria, my only condition is you treat this information with the respect it deserves, and yet within minds of one of those briefings, a number of members of congress went to a number of different publications and leaked classified information against, for political purposes, to create a narrative that simply isn't true, that somehow russia is a greater national security threat than china. >> reporter: bianna, i don't note to tell you that the intelligence has been well established that not only did russia interfere in the 2016
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election, but that several countries are looking to somehow tip the scale for the upcoming election in two months. democrats are essential saying this is a real concern. if the administration shares this concern we should be doing more, not less to understand the problem which doesn't really make sense and ratcliffe ar -- wouldn't a leak be more prevalent and easy to make, given that some things are in written form? >> reporter: that's absolutely right. there's no way of ensuring which would change the calculus in in i way. adam schiff coming out and saying it's not only democrats that may be responsible, but he pointed the finger at some republicans as well, that they
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are also responsible for these situations. so it's hard to tell at this point whether this is going to change anything in temples of that outcome, but what we do know right now is that congress is unable to ask question to say briefer, and that does compromise their ability to make a really informed decision. >> it's hard not to see this as yet again another victory as we have more division within or government over that. thank you for the great reporting. well, just ahead, is the family of breonna taylor any step closer of seeing charges being brought against the police officers involved in her shooting? we go inside the investigation. changing data. more and more sensitive, personal data. and it doesn't just drag hr down. it drags the entire business down -- with inefficiency, errors and waste.
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it was a historic week as athletes sat out games. major league baseball player yasiel puig saying his foundation is partnering with the rodney king foundation. joining us is the founder and director of the rodney king foundation. thank you for joining us, lora. tell us about the partnership and the work that the foundation is doing. >> thanks for having me. we're honored to be working with yasiel and wild horse foundation as well as tranquility counseling services of long beach.
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we all have this big thing we have to answer to in american, and what they're doing, on please brutality, and the whole movement farce black lives and valuing them, and to see the thing that's changed. former nba champion, craig hodges wanted the bug and lakers to protest the game 1 of the 1991 finals in response to his beating, and he says he was called crazy and too extreme at the time, and here we are nearly 30 years lay, what does it mean to you to work with people
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appear like you? it's a big act of current. when he does it, it was like he was that's wee we have joined forces with the wild hours foundation, so that we can create change, we now in unity, working together, we create on change, otherwise it will never get there. i want to read a portion that president george h.w. read after
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the acquittal. he said -- let's talk about the beatings of rodney king. beyond the urgent need to restore order is the second issue, the question of justice, whether roddiening's rights were violated. what i saw was revolting. i felt anger, pain. i thought how do i explain this to my grandchildren? what impact did that address and those words have on trying to bring the country together, and what do you feel about how president trump's approach is playing out? is. >> it's powerful words. it's true. we live in a world that speaks volumes on, you know, peace, but yet whee literally watching african-american men being slaughtered. i have a 1-year-old son, and
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he's innocent, yet some look at him as he's not. even the thought of speaking that is sickening to me. we shouldn't be where we're at. we need to push laws to prevent this, to prosecutor police officers, because they're not above the law. that's why it's important for for us to unify, so we can create change. it's prosecutors they officers, getting them put in jail, and not just for show. >> there does seem to be a false binary choice, one is either for law and order and civil obedience, and respecting please, versus focusing on injustice and inequality in this country and racial division. there is a great deal of mistrust between the police departments and clients they serve across america.
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i know you partner across -- what needs to happen to make this trust national now, aside from just los angeles? >> we need to have these uncomfortable conversations, we need to have these meetings of law. it doesn't need to be pushed out. it needs to be considered a state of emergency, like the looting and things like that. it needs to be -- it's just sickening where we are today. that's why it's imperative we join force with his like-minded people, people open to st. louis formed that's the main ingredients. that's solutions. otherwise we're still going to be where we're at today -- nowhere. >> it's been eight years now since your father has passed. of course we all remember his famous words, can't we all get along? that's a message you're trying
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to portray through this initiative and the fonts and the works you're doing. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. we're going to talk to the attorney general daniel cameron. he says his office has received an fbi ballistics report tied to the shooting of breonna taylor. the ag's office is working to determine if the officers involved should be charged. >> we have received that ballistics report. again, that is a critical piece of this investigation. it's not the end all/be all. there is still some testimony. we will be meeting with the fbi the beginning of this upcoming week to have a painstaking review of that information. the. ben crump, who represents the family, says he hopes it leads to a speedy conclusion to the investigation.
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doctor, thanks so much for joining us. first of all, tell us what do the phase three trials usually consist of. how concerned are you that there could be a vaccine available to the public without these trials? >> good afternoon, bianna. you know, i'm weed concern the explanation of face three they'll and the scientists conducting the trial will dern the number of people inphetted by that tick hear disease. that usually takes months, if not years to determine who is at risk. if we're rushing that, we're not going to have that data that we
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typically would use. there's been some discussion about whether or not you can actually expose people to the so when we look at shortening that time pearl, all we can believe is we're missing out on dahl, so i'm quite concerned. we're already going literally at warp spied to get it done. performen an eua to get it done before the data is available, i find it concerning. how does that difference from what russia did?
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>> there's definitely a difference. however, the point is will we be pushing out an unproven vaccine? that doesn't mean just whether it's efficacious, but whether we have had superintendent -- there's entire networks where adve adverse -- one of the biggest issues is public trust. we only have one chance to get this right. if we rush out a vaccine and the public doesn't trust it, we're going to lose. we have to get this right the first time and have to get the public trust to make it happen. >> it's not a vaccine that saves
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lives, but vaccinations, and potential mesh will not trust it, already we have over 1200 students at university of alabama, how many outbreaks are too many? what should be the thresholds? we know there will be some. this is completely predictable. it will happen at some -- the difference between k through 12 schools and colleges, however, is that after-class social atmosphere. a k through 12 is much easier to control as far as the interactions, the spacing, and
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you can make them safe if you have the funding for your school to make it happen. no matter how safe you make that classroom is what happened after classes are over. we've already seen a number of schools with videos on the internet of bars being packed on opening week. that's where that virus will transmit. >> no doubt that students play a role in this as well. dr. james phillips, thank you for your time. have a great weekend. my pleasure. thank you. college life has been disrupted, so we have asked some students to take us inside their new reality. here's what they had to say. >> normally syllabus week would be passed. right now both the quads and
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campuses are filled with an eerie aura, that yes, it was opened, and i was filled with a sense of excitement, but also dread. how would they handle the fact the whole reason we shut down to begin with -- >> personally i did not believe the university of alabama would have in-person classes. i've seen people not prioritizing on social distancing. i was given a designated entrance to go into the building i was supposed to have that class in. the desk were all six feet apart. i wear my mask as well as my face shield before i go in, because i'm extremely nervous of getting sick. >> the way u.t. is handling it, such as the university of alabama who has over 500 cases right now. when you come to campus, most
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students are socially distancing. the desks are spread out. most people are wearing masks. the campus is truly empty. >> i had my first online elects further today. and it was kind of weird, and by sitting in a lecture hall listening to a college professor for the first time. at the end of the day it is what it is and we're trying to make the best of it. >> a whole new world on college campuses from around the country. just ahead, an amazing good news story. a great-grandmonth spent three months in a hospital fighting the coronavirus, only to have to learn to walk and talk again during rehab, but she's okay. i'll ask her what kept her going. that's next. (vo) businesses are always making choices.
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i want to tell you about an amazing coronavirus survival story. there haven't been too many of those these days that we bring you and that's why this is important. marie jeanne-pierre took the trip of a lifetime going to spain in early march but less than two weeks after returning home she was in the hospital after testing positive for covid-19 and developing breathing problems. for three months she fought the virus in the hospital not giving up, not letting it win despite being on a ventilator at one point and finally after two more months of rehabilitation, she was released and allowed to see her family again and i'm hay pi to say she joins me now from brooklyn. marie, thank you so much for coming on with us today. your story is an inspiring one, it is something that your daughter has been sending out to all of us to tell us about the strength you have exhibited as a fighter. what has this experience been
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like? how are you feeling right now? >> i'm feeling fine. thank you. >> what kept you going? >> oh, my children and a lot of prayer. and therapies. you know? the doctors. they help me really. they really help me. they don't let me lay down and give up. they talk to me and they make sure i do everything, the exercise and everything was very good. >> these doctors and medical staff were just amazing and they are heroes. you were transferred to a fac t facility to learn to walk and talk again. can you tell us about that and how difficult that was? >> i cried all night because it was so bad. it was hurting me and i couldn't breathe and they come to me and check me and see what's going on with me.
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but they put a trach in my throat and that's painful. but i learn how to talk because my speech therapy, she is so sweet and i work with my physical therapy because they said get up, get up, let's go. you won't lay down. >> they pushed you. they push you because they knew you had the strength. >> yeah. sometime i don't want to let go. lei leave me alone. >> that's what we call tough love i guess, right? >> yes. >> we saw an image of your family, six children, 11 grandchildren i believe, 9 great grandchildren and you couldn't see them except from behind the glass. how difficult was that? >> very difficult. i be crying.
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it was difficult because i could not touch them. they could not touch me. it was very bad. >> now you're home and we see you with them and you were crying when you were reunited. we want to hear about how it felt when you left. we can see your emotions there in the video. you were crying on the outside. what did it feel like on the inside? >> happy, i was so happy to see everybody. >> wow. marie jean-pierre, you are an inspiration and watching this right now you're sending a message to be fighters and fight through this as well. thank you so much for joining us and glad you're okay and reunited with your loving family. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> all the best. we'll be right back. what happens when 2 million people
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hi, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. we begin this hour with another protest turning deadly as the nation comes to grips with the fallout over racial injustice. those protests are increasingly becoming a flashpoint in the race for president. last night, a man was shot and killed in portland, oregon, during protests. a warning, some of the video you are about to see is disturbing. "the new york times" reports that the victim wearing clothing affiliated with patriot prayer. cnn reached out to police for details on the victim and any
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