elect elected officials, police, all of us. then quote, we need healing. more than anything. that's what we need to do as a nation. we need to heal. and the current president wants you to live in fear. he advertises himself as a figure of order. he isn't. and he's not been part of the solution this far. he's part of the problem. the problem that i, as president, will give you my all resolve to solve. i'll deal with the virus. i'll deal with the economic crisis. and we'll work to bring equality and opportunity to everyone. we've arrived at a moment in this campaign we all know, including the president in front of me, knew we'd get to. the moment when donald trump would be so desperate, he'd do

anything to hold on to power. donald trump has been a toxic presence in our nation for four years. poisoning how we talk to one another. poisoning how we treat one another. poisoning the values this nation has always held dear. poisoning our very democracy. now, just a little over 60 days, we have a decision to make. will we rid ourselves of this toxin orwillwemakea permanent part -- we make it a permanent part of our nation's character? you know, as americans, i'm confident we believe in haonest and decency, giving everyone a fair shot, leaving no one behind, giving hate no safe harbor, and demonizing no one.

until, recognize there's something bigger than ourselves. trump doesn't seem to believe in any of that. look, i've said it before and i'll keep saying it. america's an idea. it's the most powerful idea in the history of the world. and i believe it beats in the hearts of the people in this country. all men and women are created equal, and they deserve to be treated equally. trump has sought to remake this nation in his image, selfish. angry. dark and divisive. this is not who we are. at our best, america's always been -- and if i have anything to do with it, it will be again, generous, confident, an optimistic nation, full of hope and resolve.

donald trump is determined to instill fear in america. that's what the entire campaign has come down to, fear. but i believe americans are stronger than that. i believe we'll be guided by the words of pope john paul ii. be not afraid, be not afraid. fear never builds the future but hope does. and building the future with america does, what we've always done. in fact, it's what we've done best and continue to do the best. this is the united states of america. there's not a single thing beyond our capacity when we decide to do it together. so, let's get together. i want to thank you all. may god bless you and may god protect our troops.

>> all right, joe biden in pittsburgh delivering a speech, asking americans, essentially, are you safe in donald trump's america after america has -- trump has tds americans will not be safe in joe biden's america. i want to bring in our folks to talk about this. our political director is here with us as well as our former police commissioner of philadelphia, along with our cnn senior political reporter. david, what did you think? >> i think that was joe biden's i'm not going to take it speech. he's not -- he clearly went out there to reject this change in conversation that donald trump is trying to program and reject the frame in which this law and order, using the images of violence from portland and kenosha, and trying to hang that on joe biden. joe biden just came out and made

clear he's not going to stand by for that and he's going to do his best to flip it on its head. this is where we are with nine weeks to go until election day, brianna. the campaign frame is being sent here on this topic. and what joe biden is saying is these images you're seeing are in donald trump's america and i'm going to remind you every single day about his character, his dishonesty, that he's not to be trusted and that he is a toxic force inside american politics a poison in our democracy, and that this election's about deciding whether or not, as the former vice president put it, ridding the country of that toxin or n deed, allowing it to change the very character of the nation if he's elected the next four years. the stakes couldn't be higher, the way biden has framed it, to flip on its head what donald trump and his team have been doing.

>> i like what i heard. ia know, i won't deal with the politics of this. i'll focus on the policing part of this because there's been a narrative out there that somehow he's antipolice. he's antibad policing and we should all be antibad policing. i had the opportunity to work with joe biden when i was chief in washington d.c. and commissioner in philadelphia and believe me, nothing could be further from the truth. we worked on a lot of different issues. the man is sincere. he supports please butted good, constitutional policing. and that's something everybody should want to see. i was really glad to see him include that in his speech. because i think it's very important. and the whole issue of violence taking place. i mean, i had to kind of check to see if i was hearing the right things every time i hear, when people are discussing it, as if president trump is not president. someone else is president.

i mean, the violence is happening now, we're dealing with kenosha, min -- all this stuff right now. and so, i'm glad he took that on. because it's about time. to stand up to some of the nonsense we've been hearing. >>nia. >> you know, i think in many ways this was a fact checking from joe biden for many of the things we've heard donald trump say over these last couple of years. talked about fracking and joe biden not being against fracking in the way donald trump has said he is. he also, i thought, expanded the topic beyond criminal justice and beyond what we're seeing in places like kenosha and portland as well. he basically talked about the aca, american affordable care act. he talked about social security and crime. he also talked about soldiers not necessarily feeling like they're safe either in the theaters of war. so, i thought in that way, he

expanded and said none of this will be safe. the economy's not safe in donald trump's america. social security isn't going to be safe in donald trump's america. you could also tell he was specifically, at one point in the speech, reaching out to catholic voters, siting pope john paul ii, as one of the most beloved popes, particularly among older catholics. because last week you say donald trump use lou holt to go after joe biden's catholic faith. i think in that way you see in the midwestern states, particularly, their older, white catholics, who might find some affinity for joe biden because he's catholic as well. and i think we know joe biden thinks he had to make this speech because of where donald trump has been over these lasts couple of days with the convention, not necessarily changing minds, but certainly setting this frame.

another key thing he said in this, which was you know me, you know my heart. do i look like someone who's going to be tactive of radical socialists? do i look like somebody who's going to back up looters? i thought that was an important phrase as well for this candidate, who, at this point, seems to be leading in the polls but we know they're going to tighten. you know he's got to get out there and put his messaging out there, reminding american voters this is donald trump's america. do you feel safe right now? >> seemed like he was checking very important boxes and condemning violence, insisting he's not a socialist. which that's not really considering his record, a hard sell, but a label president trump has tried to put on him. and he's very concerned, obviously, that might stick or be concerned to some voters. and then asking people, essentially, do they really feel less afraid with president trump in power when they look at how, for instance, american troops

with bounties on their head with the taliban by russia, and the president has not condemned that. in fact, the white house has largely not really dealt with that. i do want to bring in jaugosh campbell, who is in portland. and let's listen moments ago at the white house, where they're refusing to condemned armed militias. >> the president just said americans shouldn't be taking their own weapons to try to protect buildings and condemning the idea of people deputeizing themselves. does this white house believe that citizens should stop showing up in cities, especially ones they don't live in, with guns to protects buildings? >> they believe police should be fully funded, more police, rather than less, we shouldn't criticize our police, because it is the police officers responsible for taking to the streets and protecting us and when they're called cancers by congresswoman omar, compared to

the kkk by a current sitting vice presidential candidate, it's appalling, it's despicable. we need to fund police officers because they should be the ones patrolling the streets. >> and that's the contrags we're seeing and one the former vice president is trying to draw, right, as he is condemning violence, saying rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting. saying it's lawlessness plain and simple. but when it comes to armed militias, they're side stepping any condemnation? >> reporter: that's right and often times what is left unsaid is as important as what is said. there's a pattern of failing to come out and publicly condemn certain elements that, political experts, law enforcement experts tell us makeup part of his base. we haven't heard the president come out and forcefully condemn white supremacy and condemn this

fringe, anti-semitic. just discussing qanon, which believes a lot of terrible things. but you see the president come out time and again. he condemns cities like portland, oregon, run largely by democrats. i think the point that former vice president joe biden was trying to make is the president is the president of all the people and i think that would include public safety threats throughout the nation. you can't have a president picking and choosing threats he wishes to condemn and the failure to say as much can be telling but that's a pattern we've seen. this goes back before president trump took office. a obviously, we know about the events with charlottesville and white supremacists and the death of a protester, the famous comments now talking about very fine people on both sides. this has been the pattern. you talk to public safety

experts. a lot of the groups now feel emboldened because when you have the most powerful person in the world failing to slam them and push them back in the dark places, they now feel like they can come out in the light of day and spread a lot of this vit reall and whether the president believes what they're saying or not is separate but he's not using the power of his office to forcesfully condemn a lot of these groups. >> i want to ask david about that. prrls w why are we in this place where president trump will not condemn armed extremists and i mean, you hear joe biden coming out and he is condemning the violence and there seems to be, from the trump camp, this -- they're trying to create this idea that actually joe biden sanctions the violence. he's trying to make very clear he does not. why can president trump not condemn this extremism? >> you know, this has been a question, i think, about donald

trump, not just in recent days but throughout the course of his presidency at times. and there is no real good answer except that he must think that condemning some of these people and actions, somehow will hurt his standings in the polls or his popularity. that somehow he would be turning people off who would be otherwise, you know, aligned with him. because we've seen everything that the president does as in that context. and we have seen when he wants to go and condemn something, he has no problem doing it. don't go away from violence for a second. take a look at his recent question about qanon. these conspiracy theorists and he said you know, i hear that they like me and is that a bad thing? he doesn't want, no matter from where they come, if somebody is

aligning themselves with him or supporting him, he's reluctant to say anything that might turn them off. >> we just had an undecided suburban female voter from the minneapolis suburbs, coveted by trump, who made it clear she would welcome a move like this. she voted for trump in 2016 and right now is not sure she can do it again. there are people he has to gain and that he is not gaining. it's very interesting. i want to bring in arlet sign whose has been covering this for us from pennsylvania and the white house says there are no plans for the president to meet with jacob blake's family. let's listen. >> did the president have any plans currently to meet with jacob blake's family? >> currently the plans are to meet with local law enforcement and business owners and he'll survey the damage. but there will be more detailed plans

forthcoming announced. >> and joe biden, worth noting, has spoken to blake's family. stands to reason that perhaps that interaction was more we welcome by the family. >> reporter: well, joe biden, last week, spoke with jacob blake's family and that's a point he talked about in his remarks today, saying he spoke to the family of jacob blake and george floyd earlier in the summer, as he talked about how he understands the loss they've gone through and also the racial justice conversations that are happening in this country right now. he also pointed to the powerful words from last week from jacob blake's mother, saying she's seeking justice for her son and praying for police. and you heard biden in his speech talk about how he wants to bring police to the table in this conversation. so, he's trying to portray himself as a unifier, who will also help regain and restore the character of the country, he says.

going back to the start of his campaign, biden said he entered this campaign after what he saw in charlottesville. and saw the fanning the flames of hate and division. he has warned he believes president trump has been stoking some of those flames of violence also, violence he talked about today in his speech. this also circles back full circle to the start of his campaign, when he argued this was a battle for the soul of the nation and that he is the one he believes can help restore the character of the country in this moment. >> all right. thank you so much. i want to thank all of our panelists for joining us in this conversation. new concerns now that political pressure may force the fda to fast track a vaccine before it is ready. plus, as the new task force doctor pushes herd immunity,. plus, two breaking stories out of washington.

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previously the baltimore health commissioner and currently an emergency room physician. what is your reaction to dr. hahn's comments about possible fast tracking of a vaccine, raising concerns among some about safety? >> we all want for a safe and effective vaccine to be approved as soon as possible. i am concerned about short cuts and a slippery slope. we heard dr. hahn say we need to wait for all the trials are in, and then maybe we can do emergency use authorization after phase three and now we're hearing we don't need to wait for phase three trials. we're talking about giving a vaccine to hundreds of millions of americans, who were previously healthy. so, we have to make sure this is safe. and the last thing we want to do is give a false reassurance to the american people, giving them a vaccine that doesn't actually protect them against

coronavirus. there's been so much talking about scientific -- interference in scientific decision. we don't want to give them even more reasons not to take this vaccine or, for that matter, other vaccines. >> i want to ask you about something the president's preferred doctor on the coronavirus task force, dr. scott atlas is saying. he's been touting this herd immunity concept. i wonder if you have any concerns about that approach. >> huge concerns. we cannot aim for this concept. so, the idea of herd immunity is when you have a large percent object of the population, 60 to 80% who have saparticular infection, who have recovered from it, who have immunity to it t protects. we don't know how long immunity really lasts. and if we're waiting until 60 to 80% of people have it, we're

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a key member of the coronavirus task force is urging students to stay on campus. a number have seen spikes as students are returning for in-person classes. the university of alabama is reportic 1200 cases and now they're urging any college stud tonight quarantine on campus, rather than go home and risk infecting family members. one kwauj student wrote this op-ed in the milwaukee journal sentinel.

now, and i miss my flends, my professors. notre dame's golden dome. now, as i sit locked away with covid-19 coursing through my body, i miss it even more. she's a junior at notre dame. if you could tell us how are you feeling? >> you know, i'm feeling a lot better, actually, so i had pretty mild symptoms and now the own wlae thing left is -- so, i'm on the mend. >> so, you had that symptom where you can't smell very well. one of the top doctors for coronavirus at the white house is recommending that students like you, who test positive, isolate on campus. you have done that. do you think most students will cooperate? >> if you test positive, you're immediately taken away to an off campus facility to stay in

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>> there was a huge surge after they found out they've been exposed to covid-19. and getting my way into the testing center but it took several hours to get a test. once i was tested t was a pretty easy process of getting into isolation. >> thank you so much. there's a lot of people in the situation where you are. we're glad to see you're feeling so well. thank you for talking to us. a new book claiming jared kushner's security clearance should be down graded. and now ending in-person briefings on election security, that is it a quote, precover up.

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trump donor and an ally there. they set the deadline of last wednesday. up until now, we have heard no documents have been turned over. instead, two days after the deadline, dejoy sent a letter back incommittee and it said this, i frust my august 24th testimony before the oversight committee and reform clarified any outstanding questions you might have. which we know is not true because it was during that time ux during that time he was asked to provide these documents. to give an overall view of how we got here, these changes dejoy made were causing massive delays. there was concern that, given the relationship between dejoy and president trump, and the rhetoric on mail-in voting, at the he was going to somehow use the postal service to medal in the election. >> and in the separate case, they ruled against the judiciary

subpoena of white house counsel, don mcgahn. >> this is a big deal. they're essentially saying the house has no right to sue over a subpoena, to sue to enforce a subpoena. and evengsally, they say this is because there's no rule, no law in place that says that they can do so. that they can enforce the subpoena. in fact, they go on to say if the house wants to be able to enforce subpoenas, congress should mass a law enabling them to do so. so, this is going to apply to a much larger picture. but when it comes to don mcgahn and the former white house counsel, they were trying to subpoena him to get him to testify about president trump and any effort he had to try and end or thwart that russia investigation of robert mueller's friendship >> thank you so much. the "the new york times" is reporting the justice department took steps in 2017 to secretly lim that scope of its investigation into russian

election interference and possible coordination with the trump campaign. former deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein privately told robert mueller to keep the scope of the investigation to just criminal matters. that essentially stopped any investigation into the president's financial and personal ties to russia that could be considered national security threats. the paper says rosenstein believed the fbi had a mote sk for opening the counterintelligence investigations. quote, mr. rosenstein determined the investigators were acting too hastily in response to the firing of james comey as fbi director and he suspected andrew mccabe has conflicts of interest. joining me is andrew mccabe and a senior law enforcement analyst. he's also the author of "the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump." and first, what was your

reaction when you heard this report that rosenstein was secretly limiting the scope of the investigation and why do you think he would keep that a secret from you? >> so, as you would expect surprised and greatly disappointed. i, of course, was not present for any private conversations between mr. rosenstein and director mueller. but if those conversations took place as has been reported, they have the effect of essentially turning on the counterintelligence investigation that the fbi initiated. and then, of course, not telling the fbi that no such counterintelligence investigation would take place. it really, for me, leaves a lot of very concerning questions on the table. >> no, go ahead. sorry. >> i can just speak to our thoughts at the time. we had some information that indicated the president might pose a threat to our national

security, in that a counterintelligence threat, regarding the government of russia. a very, very serious issue, right? the -- as i said before, it's the dooms day scenario for counterintelligence investigators, that a president of the united states might be somehow connected to or obligated to the government of russia. so, that's something we felt strongly should be looked into. i think we have many more reasons to look into that now and special counsel and the senate intelligence committee. >> that's right. so, bipartisan senate intel report on russian interference in 2016 was released last week. that's the one you're referring to and it went far beyond the mueller investigation, perhaps because of this reason we're discussing and it's learning of interference in this election in the 2020 election. what are your concerns there?

>> well, 2016 was, by any account, a massive success for russia in terms of their primary desire to sew discord and mistrust among americans and their democratic process. in their desire to hurt candidate clinton, which they clearly did by releasing emails they stole from dnc and other places, and then, of course, to help president trump get elected, which was a suck sesz as well. so, coming off that kind of win in 2016, i think it's expected the russians will try to medal in the election in 2020. and they'll do it better. they've got great experience. they learned a lot from their last farra into this area. i suspect they'll be a much tougher adversary this time around. >> in"the new york times" report about rosenstein is part of a new book from michael schmidt. they're reporting white house

counsel wanted jared kushner and one of his top advisors, his security clearance down graded but it was approved anyway. do you have any fears that kushner and trump are beholden to foreign influence and that we might have learned more about that if the investigation had not been limited in scope? >> well, i can't speak to issues surrounding mr. kushner because those haven't been discussed and revealed in the same way the issues with the president have. so, i'm more free to address those. there's absolutely many good reasons to suspect or be concerned that the president might be beholdn on the russians. even back as far as may of 2017, if it was very clear the president didn't want us investigating the possibility of his campaign coordinating with russia.

he asked jim comey to announce to the public he was not under investigation. when we did not do any of those things, he fired the director, which we all believed is likely further effort to obstruct our investigation. we know from there special counsel's investigation that he went one step further and told don mcgahn to fire special counsel in the midst of his investigation. we know from the senate investigation that, in addition to the hundreds of contacts between trump folks and the russians, we have the release, by paul manafort, of confidential polling data to a known russian intelligence officer, that is a russian spy. so, the idea that these concerns of ours were somehow not valid is ridiculous. the idea we began our case without a proper basis is absurd. that is not a concern that mr. rosenstein ever voiced to any of thank you so much for jog

us, we really appreciate it. >> sure, my pleasure. >> nefrmt, president trump pushing conspiracy theories on everything from covid death tolls to protests and one of his closest advisers seeming to suggest it is part of his re-election strategy.

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for teachers and school personnel educating students. these heroes are doing their jobs. now government must do theirs. keep working through a special session to combat this crisis right now and provide the revenues to solve the problems we know are coming. twitter had to take down a post re-tweeted by the president because it contained statements that were false. the tweet claimed the cdc had updated the numbers to admit only 6% of people listed as

coronavirus victims actually died from covid. well, that is just a blatant misrepresentation of what the cdc actually released. which was a statistic that only 6% of covid deaths had no other complicating factors or pre-existing conditions. it does not change that covid was the cause of death. cnn's chris cillizza joining us now. and the president re-tweeted a second article containing the same false claim and this is going out to the millions of followers. >> reporter: yeah, it is dangerous if you had 200 followers but it is dangerous when you have 70 million and his excuse is i see things and send them. he never understood the power of the presidency, it does good for him but not the down side which is a lot of people believe these things. qanon is a potential domestic terrorism threat and donald

trump said well they say nice things about me so i like them. he doesn't grasp the moral imperatives that come with being the president of the united states. he is not a conservative commentator. he is not a troll on twitter. he is the single most powerful person in the country. i'll throw one other one out there, by the way, that you didn't mention, but in that rampage of tweets and re-tweets overnight and this morning, i tweeted that governor andrew cuomo should be in jail for some reason. again, words have power. we know that. he's been proven over and over again that words have power and he still chooses, at this point, chooses not to get it. it seems willful at this point. >> it seems like he understands the reach he just doesn't care the harm it does. that seems pretty clear. and he's using the same tactic in response to racial unrest and the protests across country as well. working to create his own narrative that doesn't follow the facts. >> yep. well, look, he's tweeted out praise for a militia group going

into portland, that was unrest that left one of his, we believe someone aligned with him dead. we're not naming that person, donald trump did name that person on twitter. he has expressed sympathy for that person's death and not expressed sympathy for what happened in kenosha and the violence there. again, if it was a one-off, if it was one time where he seemed to take the side here of a militia group or a white group or a white person who died verse you an african-american or a liberal group, okay, maybe. but the problem is it is time and time and time, criticizing lebron james and don lemon for being dumb and kneeling players and charlottesville. there is a pattern here. and it is not just a pattern, it is a purposefully pattern. >> he's clear about which lives matter. you could see that in his twitter feed. and even his own aides admit

that he believes that this strategy is going to help him win re-election. >> yes. i want to place one piece of sound from kellyanne conway, soon to be former white house political adviser, but here is what she had to say about the strategy and here it is. >> i also noticed there was a quote from restaurateur in wisconsin saying are you trying to get donald trump re-elected. he knows full stop and mayor pete knows full stop that the may chaos and anarchy rains, the better it is for the clear choice on who is best on public safety and law and order. >> reporter: so obviously that is pretty blatant, right. donald trump does not win an election about coronavirus and his handling of it. a large majority of people in this country do not believe he's handle it well and blame him for the situation. more than 6 million people have got the virus more than 182,000 people have died, most in the

world on both counts. he needs to change the subject. this is his attempt to change the subject. that doesn't mean it won't work but call it for what it is, this is a strategy designed to make people, particularly white women in the suburbs nervous. donald trump said joe biden will destroy the suburbas in his convention. he said it right out. this is all a piece of that. >> it is so interesting. we just talked with an undecided voter from minneapolis who voted for donald trump in 2016 and the quint essential woman and she's not sure if she could vote for him again. she wants to give her a reason to but he's not. >> fear is a powerful motivator and that is what donald trump is going for. there is not a lot of fact behind that fear candidly, but fear is an irrational emotion and that is what he's banking on. >> and i'm curious to see how widely that works with voters

like that. >> thank you so much. >> our coverage will continue now with brooke baldwin. brianna, thank you. i'm brooke baldwin, you're watching cnn, good to be here. the united states reaching nernl devastating milestone. there are more than 6 million cases of coronavirus across the country. more than 183,000 people have died. mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, young, old, everyone in between among the victims. meanwhile, new concerns about this administration's strategy. "the washington post" is reporting that one of the president's top medical advisers is urging the white house to embrace this controversial concept called herd immunity and it is a strategy that would let the virus spread among the population, hoping a natural immunity is developed. let me get you back to that in a second. but we're seeing hot spots emerge with spikes across the midwest. th