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for legitimate reasons. in a separate case, something of a win for the trump administration, perhaps momentarily. a panel on the same federal court -- they can enforce is a in as, that could continue as well. >> a lot going on. i hand it over to chris cuomo. we have 64 days until election day. and i don't think that we have had a more dangerous period in our recent history. it's time to come together to understand the facts and for you to make the choices that will set our course ahead. the country is in the grip of two crisis. neither one is under control coronavirus continues to spread, now our kids are back in school in different ways, in different
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places, almost everywhere, without the kind of testing we need to track, to trace and to keep them and their families safe. the president continues to ignore this health crisis. he sees advantage in focusing on violence around the country. he's ignoring the real illness of systemic inequality. blaming his owe porn end and anyone and anything else he can for the growing disorder that's happening on his watch. >> the wave of violence and destruction that we've seen in recent weeks and months has occurred in cities exclusively controlled and dominated by the biden -- joe biden party. the violence is fueled by dangerous rhetoric from far left politicians that demonize our nation and our police. many young americans have been fed lies about america being a wicked nation plagued by racism. >> again, i don't know who's
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writing this stuff for him. you can see he's reading, you can see he's not all that familiar with the material, but he likes its intent. those people too are complicit in passing messages they know are not just wrong, but wrong forethe country. systemic inequality is real. you know it, i know it, we see it in our schools, our lending our courts, our prisons and our morgues. this president knows it too. all americans are not racist, no one should say that, because it's not the truth. remember our country was designed to be able to defeat inequality like this, and uniquely so. so why would this president lie about the reality? it seems this is just about scaring his base enough to win the election. and i have to tell you, whatever the polls say, it may work. the big question is, at what
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price. he is now literally painting a man who supports him as a victim, the same time the police are calling him a murderer. >> is that was an interesting situation, you saw the same tape as i saw. and he was trying to get away from them, i guess, it looks like. and he fell and then they very violently attacked him, and it was something that we're looking at right now, and it's under investigation. but i guess he was in very big trouble. he probably would have been killed. >> you guess? he probably would have been killed? the guy with the gun against the unarmed people? is this law and order? backing a 17-year-old who came to town in out of state, with a gun that was illegal for him to carry openly. who shot and killed people, only to have police have him walk by as the crowd shouted what he had
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done. what about the two people who were kills at the scene. you don't have to guess about them, they're dead. they were white too, maybe not trump supporters like the shooter, but think about it, how can our president believe that painting this shooter as a victim is good for our country. how does that not encourage more of what the local police called vigilantism. the violence in the streets, even when in the name of positive change is negative and wrong. you don't need me to tell you that lotting and rioting are not protesting. seas of blacks and whites being hurt is scary. all politicians should be loud and clear about that, it shouldn't be a point of division. this president has chosen to make racial equality an opposing force to his own political
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cause. he also defended supporters who shot paint balls at protesters in portland saying, paint is a defensive mechanism. blaming biden, who is not in office for what is happening while trump is in office. the democratic nominee had a reminder for the president today. >> the violence we're seeing in donald trump's america, these are not images of some imagined joe bide ing america in the future, these are images of donald trump's america today. he keeps telling you if only he was president, it wouldn't happen. he keeps telling you if he was president you would feel safe. he is president, whether he knows it or not, and it is happening, it's getting worse. >> it is getting worse. and in 60 some days you're going to have to decide what will make it better, that has to be our
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collective cause. now, our president is about to head to kenosha, local leaders there are uncertain about him impact. they think things are too unstable for him or for biden to go. i don't think they're wrong. the president barely spoke at this briefing today, about coronavirus. he declined to take reporter's questions from cnn, the pandemic is a problem and what is he going to do about it, instead of answering, he blasted out of the room. as we both know in our lives, very few problems get better when you ignore them. the unrest over systemic inequality isn't getting better, but we're ignoring it. we're getting sicker because of that, and literally because of a pandemic. we have more than 6 million of us infected with covid. we could hit 300,000 deaths by year's end. our president's answer? forget the facts. for get the reality.
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forget that we need testing on a scale that only he can make happen. instead he wants you to believe the statistics are grossly exaggerated. do you need me to tell you know someone in your own family or the family you choose who's had this thing? you heard the stories of people being sick? you're hearing the stories of them staying sick. we're hiding from it, we can't. starting tonight, i'm going to start talking to you about what people are still suffering even when they get mild cases. instead of protecting the herd only the way this president can. you have dr. atlas saying, the herd is going to have to protect itself. he's trying to get the administration to go for a herd immunity strategy about that means you have to have a lot more people get sick so we can get this over with. i hope this isn't the best this administration can do, i really
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hope it doesn't happen. but hasn't trump already told us that he's okay with staggering losses? remember, he responded to news of the death toll by saying, it is what it is. how do we make it better than that? his fda chief is mulling fast tracking a vaccine, trials aren't complete. you have tony fauci and other task force members warning against that. and again, the backdrop, remember where we are today, kids all over this country going back to school in all these different ways, hybrid in, out, tracking, why? because they can't test the kids effectively in timely fashion to manage the situation. we should have done better. you see what's happening at our colleges? these reckless scenes. we should have been better than this. it's not fair to the kids, it's not fair to any of us. let's bring in former cdc
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director tom frieden. thank you for being with us tonight. what is your take on what you understand dr. atlas and that part of the kabal pushing as herd immunity. >> well, in the past week we saw two very concerning things, we saw the fda have a decision on emergency use of plasma, which may have been the correct decision, but politicized in how it did it, where it did 2, what it said. and you had the white house and hhs overrule the cdc and say, no don't test people who are contacts of people with covid if they don't have symptoms, which makes absolutely no sense. that will let covid spread. this concept that young people will get covid. they won't get very sick and then we'll all be okay. ignores the fact that we're all connected. what starts in the young doesn't stay in the young. there have already been more
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than 215,000 excess deaths beyond baseline between march 8th and july 31st. 71% of those deaths had a doctor write on a death certificate covid caused it, the others could have been from covid that wasn't diagnosed or people who couldn't get to the doctor to get their heart attack taken care of on time. we've had too many casualties from this pandemic, too many people have died, too many jobs have been lost. there's been too much harm to our economy, we can't let the fda and the cdc be the next casualties of this pandemic. >> you tweeted about what happened with herd immunity in sweden. you compare how that worked for sweden versus denmark, norway and finland. what's the point there? >> the point is, that sweden took an approach of saying,
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let's let a little more economic activity go, and have it voelen terry rather than mandatory, it didn't work out. they have a much much higher death rate than their neighboring countries and their economy is doing worse as well. the only way to control this virus is to control the virus. it's not a question of health versus economics. the way to regain our economy is to control the pandemic. >> the vaccine, everybody knows they're going as fast -- they keep being told they have an all-star team working on it. however, now the u.s. food and drug commissioner dr. steven hahn is saying the agency could possibly green light a vaccine before phase three trials are over. is phase three somewhat superfluous? once you get into it you know you have a winner? >> vaccines are really
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complicated. you need to know, do they work? are they safe, and will people trust them? we have vaccine manufacturers who have never made a vaccine before. i think at this point we would all be surprised if there weren't a surprise announcement of a vaccine in october. but the fact is, a vaccine may be the single best tool we have to fight covid, it's why it's so important we get it right, that we not cut any corners on safety, if people don't trust it, if it's not approved with clear data. if there hasn't been complete trans paerngscy about what's happening, we risk a blow back. one step forward, three steps backwards, that's what happened with this administration opening too soon. we don't want that to happen with a vaccine, because vaccines are precious, they're our most powerful tools to control a
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pandemic. >> by all cases, they announce a vaccine in october, it's not about science. it's about political science. it's right in line with when there will be an october surprise and there will be something positive by this election. i got to jump, dr. tom frieden as always, thank you for keeping us informed and helping us understand what matters here. >> thank you, chris. to me, what's more scary about this is not being told the truth about the numbers and what's happening. that's why we covered rebecca jones. the ousted manager of florida's coronavirus data tracking dashboard? she said, they're not doing numbers the right way in florida. she got savaged, she was right. she was asked to manipulate the numbers, her superior said she was fired for insubordination. now she's going to take us inside the reality of what's happening with schools. she has a kid herself. she's worried as a parent and as
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rebecca jones joins us now once again to talk about this groundbreaking covid-19 dashboard of hers. think about that, a citizen came up with how to track k through 12 school cases, not our government. good to see you, thank you for joining us. >> i'm always happy to join you,
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chris. you were in the middle of controversy the last time we had you on. they were saying we have to get rid of you. you said they told you to manipulate the data. now you're going to track it yourself. why do we need a dashboard that tracks it nationally? what will that mean for us? >> we've had no leadership at the federal level to embark on a mission to track students across the whole u.s. so i noticed there was a gap there, an information and data gap, having the resources and skill set i have, i joined up with fanmingo and decided to fix it. >> and how hard was it for you to do this by the way? >> very hard. it's more work than any one person can manage by themselves and that's why i was lucky to find people to help me build this project, help find all the
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data resources that are out there, and pull it all in, we're currently talking with potential contributors. >> do you have any early indication of what's going on out there? >> it's bad. >> how do you know already? >> well, schools in mississippi and georgia, alabama, a lot of places in the u.s. southeast have been open since the first week of august. governor desantis here in florida issued an executive order that was overturned last week that all schools here in florida had to open by today. >> but he's litigating it, so the order stands. which is why they went back to school. i told them in the last segment, you're a mom, and you have a kid who's in florida schools. this isn't just a clinical interest for you. is it true that in your home state of florida the governor has the schools not reporting cases? >> yes, it is.
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duvall county schools were ready to launch their own dashboard tracking cases in every one of their schools and across their whole district. according to the superintendent there, the state stepped in and said no, you need to ask us for permission before you even notify parents about cases in your school. >> okay. so let's say that's a protective mechanism, they're able to vet the data, make sure it's good data, what happens when people ask to release the data? >> they're told that doh is working on the best route to publish this data in a way that doesn't compromise patient privacy. but all of these states that are using hippa as a shield to not release data about cases in schools aren't using hippa correctly. it's designed to protect an individual health care record that can be tied to a person. you cannot identify any single person by saying the number of teachers who have tested positive across an entire school
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district. >> they're already putting out they don't like that, they're just being selective about this new category. is it true that at some point this month, florida actually released reports on covid-19 cases associated with day cares, schools and colleges and then pulled them back? >> yes, they did. for three days in a row, one day after another, they released a polished and finalized report that listed the number of cases in each one of those categories for every county in the state. >> and when called on it and asked about it, they said, we're not taking them off, they're note finalized. what does that mean to you? >> that means that i think someone was told to generate this report and upload it, before all the ducks were in a row at the leadership level. and leadership didn't like what the numbers showed, so they pulled back on it and decided they're not going to tell us anything. >> what are you worried about as a mom with your kid? >> that i'm not going to find out about cases in my son's
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school before it's too late to be effective. >> all the kids are okay when they get sick, it's like one in it a gazillion has something bad. >> that's not true. i still remember the names of the kids i wrote obituaryies fo. just 3,000 children in the state of florida have been hospitalized because of this illness, it's not just, they get better. children have been the single most shielded group since this started. we immediately cancelled schools for the rest of the semester in march when there were only a couple hundred cases in florida. so what do they think starting schools when there's a baseline of half a million active cases is going to do? >> i hope it doesn't look like the colleges? those scenes, and i get criticized for this. it's hard for me to blame the kids, you tell them they can
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come back on campus, what do you think they're going to do. that's why leadership is about making decisions people aren't going to find popular. it's amazing you are putting together the national database and we don't have it at the federal level. thank you for staying in touch. and good luck going-forward for you and your family. >> of course, thank you. now, look, have you been following what happened in port land? it's not easy, we don't know what happened yet. we should, you should take time for facts to develop. sometimes people get ahead of themselves, it doesn't help anything. a man was killed in violent clashes that were going on between trump supporters and black lives matter protesters. i don't understand why those have become opposite causes. i don't understand why the president encourages that. we know the identity of the victim. and we have a reporter who was there. they have a video, this reporter. they will take us through what went down before the shooting. this reporter was hit by one of those defensive paint balls
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let's go to portland, oregon, okay? there is a lot that we don't know. start there, we don't understand what this dynamic was, but we're getting closer and i can help you do that right now. we know the name of one man killed saturday night, 39-year-old aaron j. danielson. he was shot as trump supporters got into it with people protesting systemic racism and police brew taility. cnn has video of the shooting from across the street. it's dark, it's tough to see what happens, i'll be honest with you. let's get perspective from
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someone who's on the ground to witness not the shooting, but what was going on that night in those clashes, okay? ? the reporter is named mike baker of the new york times, he's in portland, thank you for taking the opportunity. >> thank s for having me. >> tell us, what was it like on the streets? >> yeah, i mean, it became a real volatile scene that lasted for quite some time, the event began as a rally for trump supporters out in the suburbs and they were going to comb through, drive around the city on the outskirts of downtown, stay on the highways, a lot of them, hundreds of trucks with trump flags and american flags driving through the streets and a lot of them peeled often and came into right into downtown, right where a lot of the protesters were gathering for the night. and immediately became a lot of conflict. protesters blocking the vehicles, you had the trump supporters as you said firing
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paint balls into the crowd, some pepper spray being sprayed and then protesters throwing things back at the crowd. when their vehicle stopped there were people getting out and fist fights happening. it was an escalating thing over time. >> you saw them shooting the paint balls, you got hit with one of them yourself. the president says this is a defensive thing, a peaceful thing. >> it was clear these folks were coming in ready for something. they're sitting in the backs of pickup trucks with paint ball guns at the ready. they have bear mace at their side. for some of them, they were openly carrying when they were getting into their trucks to head down to portland, it was a -- you know, it was a scene where they were -- clearly ready for some level of conflict. >> did you get to talk to any of the trump supporters or get any sense of why they see it as
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being an opposition to the demand for systematic equality? >> for some it was a chance to come into portland. they were feeling like portland had been dominated for the past three months by these protesters that they see as left wing and in some ways anti-et ththetical what they believe. they wanted to fly the trump flag in portland, this was a chance for them to do it in big numbers. >> protests according to the president is a euphemism for violence. that's what's going on all over the country, what's your experience on the streets there? >> i mean, it's a different -- i've been out many nights now with the protesters and it's a different thing every week. i mean, from the time when the feds were here in portland, when there were thousands of protesters and the moms were out and these larger crowds to
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now -- i mean, when i was out last night, there were maybe 150 protesters out, and they went out to a police station and some of them were throwing eggs and rocks and the police came out and arrested 20 -- they arrested 29 people, maybe one out of every five was arrested last night. so in -- it's a totally different scene. 150 people compared to 4,000 that there were earlier last month. so it's -- it changes every night. >> your sense of policing, would you say that they are too soft? do you think they're too harsh? what's your sense of how police are dealing with protesters? >> i noticed a major change in their tactics here last week, they're -- they no longer use -- they try not to use tear gas, that's one of their obligations, they're limited on their use of tear gas, their new tactic seems to be rushing out and grab
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everyone they can get their hands on. it can be pretty aggressive, we saw people getting thrown to the ground pretty hard last night and some aggressive tactics to make that happen. >> well, when the police are getting aggressive, are they usually being met with aggressi aggression? >> you know, a lot of it is more -- every once in a while you see someone throw a water bottle, a lot of it is just yelling. the protesters here have endured three months of portland police, at the beginning, a lot of tear gas, and a lot of it since then has been chasing them through the streets and tackling them to the ground. so i think -- they just have an immense frustration with the level of aggression they see from police. and feeling like it's just more proof that this is -- this causes it for them. >> you did not see the actual shooting that took mr. daniel son. what is your concern from being on the street about what will
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happen going-forward here, and what do you think is needed. >> i mean, we're seeing a lot of concern from the protesters that there might be some level of retribution coming in. this was the third weekend in a row where there was right wing folks come into town and clashes with these protesters. and we saw -- three weeks ago it was someone that fired two gunshots from their vehicle. and then two saturdays ago it was someone pointing a gun in the middle of a really volatile situation. and then we had this shooting that left this far right activist dead on saturday. so three saturdays in a row where there's been guns drawn and violence on the streets of portland. there's a lot of concern that this is a flashpoint where this could get even worse, and the protesters are starting to figure out how to take precautions. they're note -- a lot of these
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folks have philosophical aversions to guns and gun violence. they spent most of their time preparing for tear gas and pepper balls, nothing like actual gunfire that they're afraid of now. >> especially in this charged political environment, as we're getting down to the election, which is turning into a d-day, you have an increase in the supporters of this president, meeting the protesters that they're being told by the president and others are a problem. in america. so you're in the right place, maybe at the wrong time, mike baker, be safe, thank you for giving us a clear perspective of what's happening for the new york times and for us today. god bless and be safe. >> thanks. let's go back from one crisis to another, covid. this conversation has to happen. i really wish it didn't. i'll be honest with you, this long haul syndrome, i wanted it to be just a pocket, i really did, yeah, some people, but they're super sensitive, and they were going to get sick
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now, some of us who have tested positive for coronavirus symptoms go away, some are very mild. now, for some of those people then something comes back. then even though they didn't have bad things in the beginning, they start to develop things later on. maybe related, maybe not. then you have another group, and i've been reluctant to discuss this with you guys, enough about me and the covid. i'm in this other group, okay? and you're going to meet my friend shelbey who is in my group as well. where we got sick and it's not really going away. this is more true for shelbey than it is for me. again, i am one of the lucky ones and i ain't that lucky, okay? for me, it's depression, my body isn't recovering the way it did. i'm having problems with my blood levels.
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and i do have a lot of antibodies, and dr. sanjay gupta and i are going to show you how to donate them. but my head isn't right, my lungs aren't right, shelbey was tested a couple times, negative then positive. testing is not 100%, and there's something called viral load. even though you may feel one way, it can trigger the testing. shelbey lives with everything from loss of smell to lack of feeling in her legs. she joins me tonight along with dr. william lee, okay? i met william lee through another friend who's dealing with long haul, he's been studying people like shelbey and me to figure out what's going on, he sees something that's not being discussed. first, shelbey, good to see you. thank you so much for reaching
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out and keeping me in the loop with stuff that is not comfortable to talk about. what do you want people to know about your experience? >> thank you for having me. i hate that you're still dealing with it as well. i'm going on month five, and i'm still dealing with neurological issues, cognitive issues. i was back in the hospital about three weeks ago, and i had to wear a heart monitor for two weeks because my pulse skyrocketed to about 150 beats per minute. it stayed that way for about 45 minutes and i've been having weird shortness of breath since then, chest pain. people are having real serious issues, very serious issues. i was a personal trainer before this, and i can't even do gentle
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yoga without being in bed with horrible body aches and mains for days after. it's debilitating. we're seeing very severe issues. every organ system is affected. and it's very very scary. >> so shelbey, dr. lee is listening. you can't see him, but he's listening to you, and he's nodding his head yes, yes. in talking with him, i guess we take the word commiserate, people -- misery loves company. it is good to know you're not alone, but it's sad for everyone who's dealing with it. dr. lee, when i spoke to you, and told you the symptoms i was hearing about. you said yes. part that the scientific community is surprised as you have dedeuced to this point, it was seen as a lung virus. but now you see it as something else that is starting to make more sense to you in terms of what you're hearing from people like shelbey, explain? >> when the pandemic hit and we
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started to take notice of the lung aspects of the coronavirus, everybody was focused just on the breathing. but one of the things we started to notice that was curious is the covid toe, the brain syndromes, the strokes, the heart attack syndromes that turned out not to be a heart attack. one of the things that now needs to be discussed, we're seeing it far beyond the acute covid syndrome is the long term syndromes that are surfacing everywhere, this is a conversation that needs to be had in the medical and research community and not just in the sufferers who are actually dealing with it, one of the things that we did in my group is, we started to take a deep dive to find out what was happening that could connect all these unconnected symptoms and syndromes. and it turns out it may be blood vessels that the coronavirus is infecting, which then of course
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connect to everywhere in the body. >> what does a shelbey do about this? because everybody who goes to the doctor is told time. >> well, this is clearly not the average post viral syndrome. there's a lot we don't understand about it, so i think what's really humbling to those of us in medical research and in clinical care, when we confront something we don't know enough about, but we need to take it seriously, and we need to have the humility that we're just learning to connect the data now. what i'm trying to do is connect the dots, we've seen the virus infecting the lining of the blood vessels, cells getting inflamed and carrying that into blood clots that can rage across the body from the lungs to the heart. this long term damage may be due in part to vascular damage.
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it's kind of a footprint -- even when it's gone from the body. what's interesting about the heart, just a couple weeks ago, there were two studies out of germany, one of which looked at 100 patients with covid, recovered, including people that weren't in a hospital, and they all had chest pain and they actually had cardiac imaging done to look at their heart, they had fluttering as you said, and what we found was really amazing, 78% actually had some evidence of long term heart impact, that would be a depressed pumping ability, it could be fluid around the heart, and so one of the things we started to realize is that we really -- this is real. and we can't write it off. even in the brain, we're beginning to concept tullize that the blood vessels may play a role there opinion. >> shelbey's listening to you and she's like, great. it's could be, and a lot of this is attitude right now, shelbey was teasing with me, don't give
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me short shrift on this segment, i had my hair done for you. you see the pictures of people sending you all their hair from all this hair loss, especially women? >> yeah. >> god forbid. you lose some hair and it comes back. you noticed there's a whole community out there, shelbey? >> right, and i'm a part of a couple different groups, we have survivor core, long haul fighters. with survivor core, we're really doing a lot of research, conducting a survey right now that is actually looking into the longevity of symptoms. and i mean, it's -- we're just now seeing some of the numbers come in, and it is -- it's terrifying, and as you were saying, this is a conversation that is not happening, and if we look at one in three people that are having these long term complications, i mean, six
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million people have coronavirus in the united states. that's not even accounting for the people that didn't get a positive covid test. this is going to be a public health debacle that's going to last for i greatly appreciate your time today, doctor. bringing that up. that gives us insight. a lot of long haulers are watching. >> too many of them. for the long haulers they have the best thing in me you can ask for with the media is joint purpose. sometimes we cover things too much. and move awe way and don't care anymore. not that we don't care. the audience gets compassion fatigue. i can't have that happen. i support the work you you're doing. it will lead somewhere good. being honest with you and
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talking about what's going on and living it in realtime. i'm one of the lucky ones and i'm nowhere near where i was before i had it. i'm lucky i'm here. >> this is one of the things i think that having this conversation tonight is the beginning of actually being able to solve the crisis. you have such reserve and capacity to be able to communicate. i think one of the things you need to be able to do is be absolutely candid with the audience and encourage people not to hold back but put it out there and everybody will listen. this is really how it starts to solve problems. >> i agree. this is tricky. shelby said the same thing. this is what i have learned, when you say that you have brain fog and depression that doesn't go away, it doesn't exactly excite your audience and people weaponize it and say i knew hoefs crazy. we have all the stigma about
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mental health and everything else. if i told people my elbow is swollen. which true. out of nowhere. they would be like wow that sucks that covid-19 is scary. if you tell them i have brain fog or my emotions aren't monitoring the way they usually do. now it's there's something weird about you. we're working through it. you know bii'll be in touch. as always if there's anything i can do to help. thank you fr helping us. >> thank you. >> god bless you both. i'm early on this, trust me, i'm not getting to something that nobody else is going it discover. doctor know. people all over the country are seeing this. politicians are aware. and that's why i get so pissed about politicians ignoring the
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pandemic. i want the republicans to say more about the pandemic or anything really at their convention. they also appear to have ignored a law to keep politics out of government. i wasn't big on telling you about what should have been obvious. you're not supposed to use the white house. there's a hatch act. sure, when trump does it. nobody else has does it. i'll use the words of trump's main man in the senate. about what this law means in terms of what we saw in the convention. and what we're seeinger day. not from me, from trump's main man. next. what happens now?
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now that the rent's due but they've cut your pay. now that the virus has cost lives but your healthcare costs too much. now that our president has had months but he still doesn't have a plan. what happens now? joe biden knows how to lead through a crisis because he's done it before. when our economy was on the verge of collapse, joe biden led the largest economic stimulus in a generation and saved millions of jobs. now joe biden is ready to lead us through this crisis. he knows rebuilding our economy starts with fighting the virus, increasing testing, getting more protective gear for healthcare workers and calling for mask mandates nationwide. as president, he'll get working families back on their feet by lowering healthcare costs and helping small businesses recover.
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so what happens now? we elect a president who will build back better. i'm joe biden and i approve this message. ♪ where everybody knows ♪ someyour name ♪ant to go ♪ and they're always glad you came ♪ applebee's. now that's eating good in the neighborhood.
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many of you watching the republican convention and saw the peoples house. your house transformed at your expense to the a political prop. president trump got what he wanted. he cared about covid-19 but took that message to the maskless crowd. the chance in cheers. the power position.
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and there was predictable lefty out rage. not from republicans. republicans loved it. what a great built in home field advantage. incumbents have advantages. to be in front of the white house, that's powerful. and they know it. and they actually didn't like it. until now. why? because the silence from republicans amplifies a sham. that we saw when people like mitch mcconnell fought against changes that would have loosened the restrictions between the work of government and politics. so we teamed up with cnn k file. follow these guys. they find things that you will not find otherwise. we discovered this from 1993. please listen. >> these are provisions. would in fact present the opportunity for federal employees to be heavily involved
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in the political process. heavily involved. what does that do to the confidence of the american people they have a non-partisan, civil service. not involved in the political process? it is indeed frightening to think of the federal work force out involved in the political process. >> it's frightening to have people who are working in government as part of the political process. that's senator mitch mcconnell. it's okay to have the secretary of state in jers lem pumping for the president. and staffers pumping for the president during a political convention in front of the white house. the confidence of the american people is what was at stake according to the senator. of course he's talking about 1993, hatch act. right? it's a mess.
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why? big name presidential appointees get a pass. average service servant ts can and do lose their jobs over doing the same thing. you know who used to know this? mcconnell. republicans. had high ground on this. keep it separate. they tried repeatedly during the obama administration to ratchet up punishment for violating this law. both sides do it, you say. why don't both sides care? a majority think most politicians are corrupt. this is why. that's what mcconnell and the republicans are counting on this. you don't expect anything better from these people. yet, he wanted you to expect better. when it served him to do so. thank you for watching us tonight. d. lemon. there he is. >>

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