we want to update you on the two former top aids. fly despite the fact that flynn pleaded guilty twice. he lost that appeal today, 8-2 effectively, this means the judge can examine whether or not the justice department dismiss the case for legitimate reason. in a separate case something of a win for the trump administration. a panel on that same federal court decided that house democrats could not pursue their subpoena of former white house council don mcgahn. that could be appealed as well. what goes on in the news

continue, we'll hand it over to chris cuomo to "primetime." >> thank you, i am chris cuomo, we got 64 days until elections day. it is time to come together to understand the facts and for you to make the choices that we set our course ahead. the country is under two crisis. neither one is under control, coronavirus continues to spread and kids are back in in schools almost everywhere. we need to track and trace and keep them and their family safe. the president continues to ignore this health crisis. he focuses on the violence around the country. he is ignoring the real illness of systematic inequality and instead of blaming his opponent

for the growing disorder that's happening on his watch. >> the wave of violence and destruction that we have seen in recent weeks and months occurred in cities and dominated by the biden party. the violence is fuelled by dangerous rhetoric by far left politicians, demonizing our police. many been fed lies about racism. >> i don't know who's writing this stuff for him. you can see he's reading and he's not familiar with the material. those people too are complicit. systematic inequality isra real. you know it and i know it. we see it in our schools and

courts and prisons. this president knows it, too. all americans are not racist. no one should say that because it is not the truth. remember our country was designed to be able to defeat in equal at t equality like this and uniquely so. why would this president lie about the reality? it seems this is just about scaring his base enough to win the elections. i have to tell you whatever the polls say it may work. the big question is at what price? he's now literally painting a man who supports him as a victim the same time the police are calling him a murderer. >> that was an interesting situation. you saw the same tape i saw and he was trying to get away from them, i guess, it looks like and he fell and they very violently attacked and it was something we

are looking at right now. it is under investigation but i guess he was in very big trouble. he probably would have been killed. >> you guessed? y he probably would have been killed? the guy with the gun against the unarmed people? is this law and order? backing the 17-year-old who came to town from out of state with a gun that was illegal for him to carry openly and shot and killed people. and the crowd shouted what he had done. what about the two people who were killed at the scene? you don't have to guess about them. they're dead. they were white, too. maybe not trump supporters but they're a shooter. how can our president believe that painting the shooter is

good for our country. the violence in the streets even when in the name of positive change is negative and wrong. you don't need me to tell you that looting and rioting are not protesting. scenes of whites and blacks, hurting and being hurt or scared, they're un-american. they're not progress. all politicians should be loud and clear about that. it should not be a point of division. this president has chosen to make racial equality an opposing force to his own political cause. he defended supporters who shot paint balls at protesters saying paint is a defense mechanism and blaming biden who's not in office for what is happening while trump is in office. the democratic nominee had to remind the president today.

>> the violence that were seen in donald trump's america, these are not images of joe biden's america in the future. these are i mages of donald trump's america today. he keeps on telling you if only he's president, it would not happen. if he was president, you would feel safe. well, he's president whether he knows it or not and it is happening. it is getting worse. >> it is getting worse. >> in 67 days, you will have to decide what will make it better. it has to be our collective calls. our president is about to head to kenosha. local leaders there are uncertain of his impact. they think it is too unstable for him or biden to go. the president barely spoke at his briefing today about coronavirus which is why he started holding briefings again. he declined to take reporters'

questions from cnn. the pandemic is a problem, what is he going to do about it? we know in our lives very few problems get better when you ignore them. the unrest over systematic inequality, we are ignoring him, at least our leaders are. we got now more than 6 million of us infected with covid. we could hit 300,000 deaths by years end according to a new projection. our president's answer? forget the feedbacacts and the reality. forget that we need testing on a scale that only he can make happen. he wants you to believe the statistics from grocery exaggerating. do you know someone in your own family who had this and you heard the stories of people being sick and you hear the story of them staying sick, long

hall syndrome. we are hiding from it. i am going to start talking to you about what people are suffering even when they are getting mild cases. instead of protecting the herd, he now has a doctor who's on your screen, dr. atlas sayi saying -- on his task force is trying to get the administration to go for a herd, immunity strategy. that means you have to have a lot more people get sick so we can get this over with. i hope this is not the best that this administration can do. i hope it does not happen. has trump already told us he's okay with staggering loss. he responded to news of the death toll by saying "it is what it is." how do we make it better than that? trials are not complete? you got tony fauci and other task force members warning

against that. zb aga again, the braackdrop, remember where we are today, kids going back to schools. why? because they can't test the kids effectively in timely fashion to manage the situation. we should have done better. you see what's happening at our colleges? these reclekless scenes, it is t fair to the kids. let's look at the path going forward. let's bring in tom freedman. thank you, for being with us tonight. doctor, what is your take on what you understand dr. atlas pushing as herd immunity. >> we saw the fda have decisions on emergency use of plasma which

may have been a correct decision but politicize it and you have the white house and hhs over ruled the center for disease and control preventions, don't test people who have no symptoms which makes no sentence. this is concept of young people get covid, they won't get very sick and we'll be okay. what starts in the young does not stay in young. there has already been more than 250,000 excess deaths beyond baseline between march 8th and july 31st. 71% of those deaths had a doctor who wrote on their death certificate, covid caused it. the others could have been covid was not diagnosed or people who could not get the doctor to get

their heart attack taken care on time. we have too many casualties and too many people have died and too many jobs have lost and too much harm to our economy. we can't let the fda and cdc be the next casualty of this pandemic. he tweeted of what happened with the herd immunity in sweden. you compare how that works for sweden versing denmark, norway and finland, what's the point here? >> the point is sweden took an approach of saying hey let's let a little economic activity go. they have a much, much higher death rate than enabling country. the only way to country this virus is to control this virus. the way to regain our economy is

to control the pandemic. the vaccine. everybody knows they're going fast and they keep on being told that they have an all-star team is working on it dr. hahn is saying the agency could green light a vaccine before phase three trials are over. is phase three virtualous or once you get into it you know you have a winner or not. >> vaccines are really complicated because you need to know do they work. are they safe? and will people trust them? we got vaccine manufactures who never made a vaccine before. we have vaccine technology that's never been used before. at this point we would be surprised if there were not a surprise announcement of vaccines in october. the fact that a vaccine is maybe

the single best tool that we have to fight covid so it is important to get it right and we not cut any corners on safety. if people don't trust it and not approved with clear data or if there is no complete transparency of what's happening. we risk a blow back. we risk one step forward and three steps backward. that's what happened with this administration opening too soon in southern states and that's what's happening in schools opening where there is a lot of covid. we don't want that to happen with the vaccines because vaccines are precious. they are most powerful tools to control the pandemic. >> they announced a vaccine in o october. . it is not about political science. something positive to line up for this election, i hope it is backed by science. >> dr. tom freidman, thank you

for keeping us informed. what's scared about this is the numbers not being told. jones said then they're not doing numbers the right way in florida. she got savage, she was right. her superior said she was fired because she did not file the whistle blower complaint. she's going to take us inside the reality of what's happening in school. she worries as a parent and as a scientist. she also launched a tool that may be the first and best of its kind to do something that nobody else have been doing for us, track covid-19 cases k through 12 all around the u.s. how could you not have that? rebecca jones with the reality and what the right way should be, next on "primetime."

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toi'm releasing a plan to save lives in the months ahead.irus. we need to increase federal support for testing, doubling the number of drive-thru testing sites. we absolutely need a clear message from the very top of our federal government that everyone needs to wear a mask in public. every single frontline worker should have the personal protective equipment that they need to be safe. we need to support schools and childcare programs so parents, if and when they can return to work, are confident that their children will be safe and cared for. and finally, we need to protect the populations most at risk: our seniors, vulnerable populations with pre-existing conditions. we need real plans, real guidelines,

with uniform nationwide standards. it's a simple proposition folks, we're all in this together. we gotta fight this together. we'll emerge from this stronger because we did it together. i'm joe biden and i approve this message.

rebecca jones, good to see you. >> i am happy to see you, chris. they are not big straight of the data. now you are going to track it yourself. why do we need a data to

democrattrack it? >> so i noticed there is a gap there and information and data gap and having the resources and knowledge and the skills set i have joined up with the financial profit and decided to fit it. >> how hard is its for y for yo this in. >> very hard. it is more work than any one person can manage themselves. that's why i was lucky to find people to help me build this project and find all the data i resources that are out there and pull it in. we are talking to potential contributors to add to this list of resources. it is a lot of work. >> do you have a lot of in occasi indication of what's going on

out there? >> it is bad. >> schools and a lot of places, u.s. southeast have been opened since the first 1st of august. governor desantis ordered all schools had to be opened. >> you got a kid in florida school. is it true that in your home state of florida, the governor has schools not reporting cases. >> yes, it is, duval is ready to launch their dashboard across their school district. according to the studeuperinten, the state stepped in and said no. you need to ask for our permission. >> okay, so they're able to

assess data and no calls panic. what happened when people asked to release data? >> they're told to publish this data in a way that does not compromise privacies. all of these states that are using hippa as a shield who are not releasing schools. a they are not using hippa correctly. you can't identify any single person by saying the number of let's say teachers who tested positive across the entire school. >> they're just now being selective about this new category. is it true at some point this month that florida release reports of covid-19 cases associated with daycare and colleges and pull them back? >> yes, it did. three days in a row, they

release a polish and finalize report in every category for every single county in the state. >> when called on and asked about it, no, no, they're taking it off and they're not finalized. what does it mean? >> correct. that means that someone was told to generate this report and upload it before all the docs were in a row at the leadership level and leadership did not like the numbers. >> what are you worried about as a mom? >> i am not going to find out about cases in my son's school before it is too late to pull them out to be effective. >> all the kids are okay when they get sick and one in a gazillion are not bad. >> that's not true.

i have written obituaries for kids. this is not something that kids are immune to. over 3,000 children are hospitalized. this does not get better. children have been the single most shielded since this started. we immediately cancelled schools for the rest of the semester in march when there were only a couple of hundred cases in florida. what will did you think of starting school when there is a baseline of half a million active cases. >> i hope it does not look like colleges. i get criticized when there are kids. you have kids there and you are telling them to go back to campus whar campus, what are they going to do? you are putting together the national database and we don't have it at the federal level. thank you for staying in touch and thank you for the work you are doing and good luck forward for you and your family. >> of course, thank you. have you been following what

happened in portland? it is not easy. we don't know what happened yet. we should take time to practice and develop it. no question sometimes people get ahead of themselves and it does not help. we know a man is killed in violent clashes that were going on with trump supporters and black looiives matter protests. i don't know why the president encouraged that? we know the identity of the vick. we ha victim. we have a reporter who was there. they'll take us through what went down before the shooting. all right, this reporter was hit by one of those defensive paint ball being shot by protesters by the president's support. what he saw on the street, you need to know, next.

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portland, oregon, there is a lot that we don't know start there. we don't understand what this dynamic does. we are getting closer. we certain lily know the name killed. the 39-year-old killed fb. cnn does have the video of the shooting across the street. it is dark and tough to see what happened. let's get some perspective from someone who was on the ground to witness, not the shooting but what was going on that night in those clashes. the reporter is named mike baker of "the new york times," he's in portland. thank you for taking the opportunity. >> thank you for having me. so tell us, what was it like on

the street? >> they were dpoigoing to come through and driving around the city. a lot of them are in the hundreds of trucks with trump's flags and american flag driving into the streets. and immediately he came. protesters blocking vehicles and you have trump supporters firing paint balls into the crowd and pepper spray being sprayed and protesters throwing things on the ground. it was just an escalating thing in downtown. >> you saw them shooting the paint ball and you got hit

yourself. the president said this was a peaceful thing. how did it seem to be deployed? >> it was clear these folks were coming in ready for something. they're sitting in the back with paint ball guns and they're ready and for some of them they were openly carrying when they were getting into their trucks to head down to portland. it was a scene where they were clear clearly ready for some level of conflicts. >> did you get to talk to trump supporters and get a sense of why they see it of being an opposition for demand of systematic equality. >> for some of them is a chance to come into portland, they were feeling that portland had been dominated over the past three months by protesters and they see left wing in some way and what they believe.

they wanted to come in in portland. this is a chance for them to do it in big numbers and show that they were not afraid to make it happen. >> protest according to the president is violence. that's what's going on around the country. what's your experience? >> i have been out many nights with protesters. it is a different thing every week. from the time the feds were here in portland when there were thousands of protesters and the moms were out and larger crowds to now. when i was out last night, there may be 150 protesters out there. some of them are throwing eggs and rocks and police came out and arrested 29 people, maybe one out of every five was arrested last night. it is a totally different scene. 150 people compare to 4,000 that

were there. so it changes every night. >> would you say they are too soft or do you think they're too harsh? what's your sense of how police are dealing with protesters? >> a major change the last week. they no longer using tear gas. they're limited on tear gas. they seem to be rushing out and grabbing everyone and getting their hands-on and insight for crime. it could be pretty aggressive. we saw people getting thrown to the ground pretty hard last night a night. >> when the police are getting aggressive, are they met with aggression? >> you know -- everyone seeing people throwing water bottles, a

lot of it is yelling. >> tand a lot of it has been chasing them through the streets and tackling them to the ground. frustration and lefvel of aggression they see from police and it is just more proof -- >> now, you did not see the actual shooting that took mr. danielson. what is your concern about what will happen going forward? what is needed? >> we are seeing little of concerns from protesters at some level of retribution. this is a third weekend in a row where there was right wing folks coming into town and clashes with these protesters and three

weeks ago it was someone that fired two gunshots and two saturdays ago it was someone pointing a gun in a middle of a volatile situation and we have a shooting that left the far right activist dead on saturday. three saturdays in a row there has been guns drawn and violence on the streets of portland. there is a lot of concerns that this is a flash point where this could get worse and protesters are starting take precautions. a lot of folks are philosophical versions to guns and gun violence. >> especially in this political environment as we are getting down to the election which is turning to a d-day, you have the increase of the supporters of this president meeting

protesters they are told by the president and others are a problem in america. you are in the right place. maybe at the wrong time. >> mike baker, be safe forgi gi perspective of what's happening. god bless and be safe. >> now, let's go back from one crisis to another. covid. this conversation has to happen. i really wish it did not. this long haul -- some people are super sensitive and they're going to get sick anyway and now it is just worse because of covid. many who have suffered with this virus continued to suffer. they're starting to get new illnesses. i started reaching out to people because there are support groups that you can find on social media. more and more people are sending me the scariest stories.

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all right now, some of us tested positive for coronavirus symptoms go away, some are very mild. for some of those people then something comes back. they did not have bad things in the beginning, they start to develop things later on, maybe related or maybe not.

then you have another. i have been reluctant to discuss this with you guys because enough about me, so many people have. i am in this other group, okay? you will meet my friend shelby hitchcock who was in my group as well. we got sick and it is not really going away. this is more true for shelby than it is for me. again, i am one of the lucky ones and i ain't that lucky, okay? for me is the depression, my body recovered the way it did. i do have a lot of antibodies and sanjay gupta and i are going to show you how to donate plasma. shelby tested several times and came back positive in april and negative in may and positive again at the end of may.

testing is not 100% and there is something called viral load, even though you may feel one way. as we approach september, shelby continues to live from everything from losses to lack of feelings in her legs. she joins me along with dr. william lee. i met dr. william lee, he's been studying people like shelby and myself. shelby, good to see you. thank you very much for reaching out and keeping me in the loop with stuff that's not exactly comfortable to talk about. what do you want people to know about your experience? >> thank you for having me, chris. i hate that you are still dealing with it as well. i am still dealing with

cognitive issues. i was back in the hospital about three weeks ago and i had to wear a heart monitor for two weeks because my pulse skyrocketed to about 150 beats permit. it stayed that way for about 45 minutes and i have been having weird shortness of breaths since then and chest pain. guys, people are having real serious issues. very, very serious issues, i was a personal trainer before this and i can't do gentle yoga without being in bed with horrible body aches and pain for days after. it is debilitating. we are seeing very severe issues, i mean every organ system is affected and it is very scary. >> shelby, dr. lee is listening. you can't see dr. lee but he's listening to you and he's nodding his head, yes, yes.

i guess we take people love misery. dr. lee when i spoke to you and i was telling you the kind of symptoms i had, you were saying y yes. it was seen as just a lung virus but now it is making more sense in terms of what you are hearing from people like shelby. >> when the pandemic hits, we start taking notice of the lungs aspect of the virus. everybody was focused on the breathing. one of the things we started to notice that was really curious was the covid toes, the brain syndrome, the heart, it turned out not to be a heart attack.

one of the things that needs to be discussed. we are seeing the acute covid syndrome is the long-term syndrome that's surfacing everywhere. one of the things we did in my group ils s we started to take deep dive to find out what was happening that can connect all of these unconnected symptoms and it turns out it may be blood vessels that the coronavirus affected which connects everywhere in the body. >> what do shelby do about this? everybody goes to the doctor are being told time. >> this is clearly not the average post viral syndrome. there is a lot we don't understand about it. what's humbling for those of us in medical research and clinical

care is we confront something that we don't know about. we need to take it seriously. we are just starting to observe and collecting the data right now. what i am trying to do is connect the dots. we are seeing the virus infecting the lininging of the blood vessels and the cell is getti getti getting in flame. we think this long-term damage may in part be due to vascular damage, it is kind of a footprint. even when it is gone from the body. what's sprinteresting about the heart, there were two studies out of frankford, germany, one that looked at 100 patients recovered including people that were not in the hospital all had chest pain and they had cardiac imaging done to look at their hearts because they had

fluttering. what they found was really amazing. 70% had some evidence of long-term heart impact. that could be fluids around the heart. one of the things we start to realize is that this is real and we can't write it off. in the brain we are con conceptualizing that the blood vessels can play a role there. >> look, it could be and a lot of this is attitude. don't giver me short tip on this seg segment, i had my hair done. you see people sending you all their hair from hair loss and especially women. >> oh yeah. >> you know you have noticed there is a whole community out there, shelby , right? >> i am apart of a couple of

different groups. with survivors, we are doing a lot of research and kukiconductg and it is -- i mean, it's terrifying. and as you were saying, i mean, this is a conversation that just is not happening. and if we look at one in three people, that are having these long-term complications, i mean, 6 million people have coronavirus, in the united states. that's 2 million people. that doesn't even account for the people that didn't get a positive covid test. so this is going to be a public-health debacle that's going to last, for decades to come. and it needs to be a conversation that -- that keeps on -- keeps on happening. so we just need to keep talking about it and, you know, i

greatly appreciate, you know, your time today, doctor, you know, bringing that up. that definitely gives us some insight. i know a lot of long haulers are watching. >> right. and unfortunately, there are too many of them. and look, of course, for the long-haulers, they have the best thing in me you can ask for, which is media. which is joint purpose. sometimes, we cover things too much. or we move away. not that we don't care but the audience gets compassion fatigue and we move on. i can't have that happen, doctor, because i support the work that you're doing. i know it's going to lead somewhere good for people. and it's going to be on the back of people like shelby hitchcock. because i just know, i'm one of the lucky ones, and i am nowhere near where i was before i had this. i'm lucky i'm here. >> chris. go ahead. last word to you. >> yeah. yeah. this is one of the things that i think, having this conversation tonight is the beginning of, actually, being able to solve this crisis. and you're somebody who has such

reserve and -- and capacity to be able to communicate. i think one of the things that you need to be able to do is to be absolutely candid with your audience and listeners. and to encourage people not to hold back. but to really put it out there, and so that everybody will start to listen. i mean, this is -- this is really how it starts to solve problems. >> i -- i agree with you. this is tricky. and shelby has said the same thing but i have to tell you. this is what i've learned. turns out, that when you say that you have brain fog and depression that doesn't go away, it doesn't exactly excite your audience. and a lot of people weaponize it and say, i knew he was crazy. because we have all these stigmas about mental health and everything else. and if i told people, hey, my elbow is swollen, which is true. just out of nowhere, my elbow is swollen. they'd be like, oh, wow, that sucks. that covid, that's scary. but if you tell them i've got brain fog or my emotions aren't monitoring, the way they usually do. now, it's, well, there's

something weird about you. so we're working through it. i will err on the side of candor, as always. shelby, keep me in the loop. i can be a conduit for what's going on. and always, dr. lee, if there's anything i can do to help, thank you for helping us. >> thank you. >> now, listen, i know i'm a little early on this. but trust me, i'm not getting to something that nobody else is going to discover. there is in eureka. doctors know. people all over the country are seeing this. our politicians are aware. and that's why i get so pissed about politicians ignoring the p pandemic. that's why i wanted the republicans to say more about the pandemic or anything, really, at their convention. they also appear to have ignored a law to keep politics out of government. and i wasn't big on telling you about what should've been obvious. you're not supposed to use the white house as a political backdrop. there's a hatch act. now, you will say, oh, yeah,

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the republican convention. you saw the people's house, your house, transformed, at your expense, into a political prop. donald trump got exactly what he wanted. he got to talk that he cared about covid, but he took that message to a, largely, maskless crowd. he got the chants and cheers, in front of that ultimate, power position. and there was predictable, lefty outrage, right? but not from republicans. republ republicans loved it. what a great, built-in, home-field advantage. incumbents have advantages. but to be in front of the white house, man, that's powerful. and they know it. and they, actually, didn't like it, until now. why?

because the silence from republicans amplifies a sham, that we saw when people, like mitch mcconnell, fought against changes that would have loosened the restrictions between the work of government and politics. so we teamed up with cnn's k-file. you got to follow these guys. they find things that you will not find, otherwise. and we discovered this -- or they discovered this -- from 1993. please, listen. >> these are provisions, if enacted into law, would, in fact, present the opportunity for federal employees to be heavily involved in the political process. heavily involved. now, what does that do to the confidence of the american people, that they have a nonpartisan, civil service, not involved in the political process? it is, indeed, frightening to

think of the federal workforce involved in the political process. >> it's frightening to have people, who are working in government, as part of the political process. that's senator mitch mcconnell. but, it's okay to have the secretary of state in jerusalem pumping for the president. it's okay to have all these staffers pumping for the president, during a political convention, in front of the white house. the confidence of the american people is what was at stake, according to the senator. now, of course, he's talking about 1993 hatch act, right? and it's a mess. why? big-name presidential appointees get a pass. while your average civil servants can, and do, lose their jobs over doing the same thing. you know who used to know this? mcconnell. you just heard him. republicans had high ground on this. they said keep it separate.