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but only 4% of the world's population and there is big worry this morning the number could grow as a member of the white house task force argues the u.s. should pursue herd immunity. but we begin the hour with the president, nine weeks from election day off to a battleground state that at the moment is a racial tinderbox. >> i think a lot of people are looking at what's happening to these democrat-run cities and they're disgusted. they see what's going on. and they can't believe this is taking place in our country. we have had such a big success in shutting down what would be right now a city that would have been kenosha, a city that would have been burned to the ground by now. i think it's helping because i'm about law and order and if you look at the black community, they want the police to help them. stop crime. >> that was the president last hour just before taking off for wisconsin, important to note, nothing to do with the deployment of national guard in
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kenosha but taking credit for it. d the governor and the mayor said the president should not come to kenosha today. he will visit law enforcement and tour the businesses, not meeting with the family of jacob blake, the black man shot seven times in the back by police. the president said the demonstrations are anarchy and said the democrat governors and mayors are weak. and he will not criticize the supporter now charged with killing two protesters in kenosha. last night, listen to this, the president was asked about the blake shooting, a chance for him to show compassion or to make a statement about police brutality or police training but the president compared the officer that fired seven shots into blake's back to a golfer missing
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a putt. >> they choke. shooting this guy in the back many times, couldn't you have done something different? they choke just like in a golf tournament, they miss a -- >> comparing it to golf? because that's what the media will say. >> people choke. people choke. >> wow. laura ingram tried to save him from himself. he did compare it to golf. ryan nobles, a tense day on the ground there as the president comes largely unwelcomed by the political establishment. >> reporter: john, things are quiet right now in kenosha and the president's brief in total a brief visit to when town but you can tell things are very on edge now as you make your way here to this school where the president will appear in a couple of hours. strip malls, boarded up. because of the violence and unrest taking place here since the shooting of jacob blake and
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what the president hopes to accomplish here is not all that clear. as you mentioned in that sound that you just played he seems to indicate that the police officers here did not handle the situation all that well but coming to kenosha he is going to be embracing law enforcement. in fact, all of the meetings here today based around that message of law and order, have a roundtable with the law enforcement leaders here to talk about how they respond to the violence here and seems to be less focus on the original issue, the shooting, the situation and the problems with policing in america as there is the outgrowth of that and the violence and all of the activity that takes place afterwards so we'll have to hear from the tone of the president as he comes here latter today and this is of course a key battleground and not specifically wisconsin as a state, a state the president narrowly won here four years ago but kenosha itself is a swing
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area. this is a place that for the most part voted for democratic candidates for president up until last year, a place the president wants to keep in his win column and it is clear he's using this violence, this uncertainty and a city on edge hopefully to his advantage into the fall election. john? >> incredibly delicate moment. ryan nobles, glad you are on the ground there. joining me now is trina par tee and errol lewis. listening to the president of the united states talk about the shooting of any citizen but in this case a black man seven shots in the back point blank range and compared it to a golfer missing a clutch putt. what? >> it is sad and shocking and disgusting. and unfortunately, entirely in keeping with donald trump's actions, not only as president but his entire public career, john. his entire public career.
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decades ago calling for the execution of what turned out to be completely innocent exonerated teenagers for which he never apologized, his entire public career has been based on callous, violent, racial division. it is what the whole birtherism movement was about, what all of his actions have been about coming to this. the fact that he's not going to visit the family, the fact that he said absolutely nothing about racial reconciliation and creating some sense of peace and stability, frankly, i'd say based on the record the president probably hoping for some kind of disturbance or riots in his wake. that's what his public life is about, that's what his politics is about and it is again sad and disgusting that this is what we deal with 60 odd days from an important election. >> but to that point, the
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president clearly made a choice here he thinks is going to work. more of what he said today but listen here. this is the president talking about suburban women. going to kenosha and ryan noted that wisconsin voted for president obama by ten points ab president trump beat hillary clinton just barely. one county, you swing it a little bit, makes a difference. listen to the president's tack on what his view suburban women want in this campaign. >> women, more than anything else, they want security. they want safety. their to have safety. they talk about the suburban woman, i ended the regulation that provided low income housing, westchester was ground zero for what they were trying to do, destroy suburban beautiful -- the american dream really.
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>> people read that as i'll keep people of color out of the suburbs. >> that's a way to look at it and the way that the president is talking about it is that -- that seems to be the way people continue to perceive it and clear in the messaging this law and order approach and the way he talks about how that will help him win this election, especially with suburban women, that's all he's been talking about and using this, you know, if racial tensions in a battleground state in wisconsin to his benefit and he's been pretty open in talking about it and we heard vice president biden this week try to really point that out to people, to say that, you know, donald trump might be talking about how it might be unsafe in a joe biden's america but currently it's donald trump's america and so i think you will hear him continue to try to make this point as the president tries to use -- as he says his law and order message that he tweets out in all caps
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every other day, you know, as he continues to push that message. >> and this a lot is not new, just always different and i'd like to use the term on steroids in the trump age with the willie horton ad in 1988. 1992 we had the rodney king riots and then president george h.w. bush with a conversation about race and policing in the aftermath of that but what struck me this morning was the president had a chance, do you want to talk about racial unity, reckoning and he said yes but i'm the law and order president. they absolutely do want safety in the communities and would not continue the thought. he did not continue to say they also don't want their sons and daughters pulled over because of the color of their skin, at risk of being shot more than a white guy because of the color of their skin. he never fills that sentence in. >> that's right.
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look. i grew up in westchester county and it could not be more clear what those buzz words mean talking about this. he is not interested in any form of racial reconciliation. law and order is utterly inappropriate and almost senseless out of the words of this particular president whose lawyer is in prison today, campaign manager is in prison today and on and on and on. he said he wouldn't meet with the family of the man who was shot because there would be a lawyer in the room. this is someone that runs from the law. somebody who runs from accountability, who runs from accountability in particular when it comes to the heavy burden of doing what so many good men and women have done over the years to bring about some sense of stability and reconciliation and better policing. that's what the country needs. if we're lucky we'll get the version of it but it's not going to be from donald trump. >> and to the point we are now nine weeks from the election, many people start to vote sooner
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and cast a ballot two weeks from now. part of the president's argument is beating up on the mayor of portland, officials in wisconsin. he forgets sometimes he is the president of the country i think and happening in the america that he leads but tries to say if joe biden is elected portland will come to all 50 states. joe biden delivering a major speech saying, mr. president, you are dead wrong. >> i'll be very clear about all of this. rioting is not protesting. looting is not protesting. setting fires is not protesting. none of this is protesting. it's lawlessness. plain and simple. and those who do it should be prosecuted. >> there's an effort by the incumbent president to paint joe biden as being his history in politics tells us he is not and the vice president going to pittsburgh to deliver that speech in the biden campaign they clearly have to be a little
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nervous it might stick. >> that's right. you are hearing that line from voters, i was in pennsylvania recently and republican voters said we are seeing what's happening with democratically controlled cities and we don't want that to happen all over america and surprised that exact line did come up with a few voters and it is something some people are picking up and some voters who would not consider joe biden so they weren't necessarily up for grabs but it was a battleground state where both joe biden and donald trump are trying this week alone to pick up some votes. we saw joe biden in pittsburgh yesterday. mike pence will be in pennsylvania t pennsylvania today. it is interesting to see which voters if it's the suburban women to repeat that line if it's voters up for grabs who
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start thinking of that fear that the president is trying to incite. >> critical point. we'll watch the president next hour in kenosha. very grateful for the reporting and the insights. thank you both. up next, the president is firing back on a new report of the circumstances surrounding the unannounced visit to walter reed hospital back last november.
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president trump firing back challenging reports about the unannounced visit to walter reed hospital last november. a new book says, quote, word went out in the wing wing for the vice president to be on stand by to take over the powers of the presidency if trump need add procedure to require him to be anesthetized. they said it was a routine physical and the president pushing this issue on twitter. kaitlan collins is live at the
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white house. what is the president mad about? >> reporter: he doesn't like people talking about his health. he's tried to frame the debate about joe biden's health but now president tweeting about this saying never ends. trying to say that your favorite president went to walter reed having suffered a series of mini strokes, never happened to this candidate, fake news. perhaps they're referring to another candidate from another party. now, john, to be clear, no tradition traditional legitimate reported that the president had a series of mini strokes. mike schmidt said what you read about the vice president potentially having to be on stand by in case the president needed a procedure. the reason there are so many questions about that visit to walter reed was it wasn't on the president's schedule like it typically is when he has a physical. saying he was completing first part of the physical and not believable given that he didn't complete it for another five months and talking to doctors
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saying you don't space out a physical over five months because then it's not conclusive over the state of the health was and we didn't get the results of the president's physical until may of 2020 earlier this year and that's why there's so much confusion. it starts at the white house and the president complaining about what he sees i guess tweets talking about him having mini strokes but the white house could say why it was the president went to walter reed but instead they choose to stick by the story about the first half of the physical and not given anymore light on it and today with the new book this is how we learn more about what could be going on and quickly coming together to have the vice president on stand by and happened in the first. i was looking on cnn this morning where you wrote a story in 2002 saying that dick cheney would have to assume the powers of the presidency because george bush was getting a colonoscopy.
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the white house did not disclose any of that. >> back in the days when i covered that building behind you. sometimes i remember them and try to forget. very much appreciate that. thank you very much. now dr. william lang is former director of the white house unit. things like this can get confusing. if the president, if the president were just going to walter reed for a routine physical would word have gone to the vice president be prepared to be on stand by? >> at the same time what we understand about this report from the book is that it was an unnamed source and saying this was going to happen, so whenever the president travels the military, medical unit is to make sure all contingencies are covered. may have been the routine, okay,
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the president is going to the hospital, let's make sure we have all of our standard operating procedures in place. >> and one way we could be more clear about this is if this white house were more tran transparent about such things but it is an interesting gap if you will as kaitlan come listens just reported. it's a physical but then part two of the physical not done for five months, that is not normal. correct? >> at the same time the scheduling that involved the white house make things difficult. a thing we do know is that the president, current president tends to do things on his time. and so, to me it is not that surprising that if he had to have these first things done, you have -- you probably have an annual physical and certain things to do outside of the facility, other things much better done in the facility and someone saying, mr. president, you need to get these parts of the physical done and he says,
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do it now and off they go. >> okay. and again, it may well be just part of a routine with the caveat of this president, president trump, does things differently. we were given a heads up so nobody would be alarmed and people and stock markets don't ask weird questions. the president going tomorrow to the walter reed for the physical and this white house doesn't do it that way. would it be better so we don't have these conversations if they were more transparent about the president's schedule and his health? >> but i go back to what dr. connelly said is that this was not done for anything that was you are jen urgent or acute. not an evaluation or treatment or anything like that. military officer and never dp demonstrated anything otherwise.
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the only conjecture is this is part of the physical. many other people come to other conjectures but when you put together what was told and then got when the may/june time line it came together and certainly people can conjecture but i just have tried to look at the objective statements that were made by somebody that i personally trust. >> that's why we have you here because you're familiar with the inside procedures having been there yourself. thank you. take care. >> thank you. up next, the nation's leading testing czar pushes back on the growing calls for daily testing for almost everyone. alo. they need help to stay home... ...and stay safe. they need us and we need you. home instead. apply today.
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a top trump coronavirus task force official bristling at the suggestion as america goes back to school and work that we need more testing. september's going to be a critical month here, a test of whether the summer surge is finally tamed or whether back to school and work and the fall will bring another case spike. look at the trends right now. just a snapshot of the country. pick where you live in the country. if you are in the united states, the deeper the color the higher coronavirus infection rate in the community. the south and the southeast, the dark red, 3,000 plus infections for every 100,000 residents. lighter areas means way fewer infections. or look at it this way with the
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state by state map. 50 states. 19 of them right now reporting more cases this week than last week. the overall case count not as big because you see florida in green trending down. california trending down. arizona trending down. nine states trending down. 22 states holding steady including texas, also a big part of the surge. overall case trend, let's hope that this is progress meaning last couple of days below 40,000. the peak of the summer surge close to 70,000 cases a day. two days now below 40,000. let's hope it stays there. experts still ask, why didn't the united states do more to keep it at 20,000 a day or push it down more at the beginning of that surge. one of the keys to this is testing and the united states down a little bit, 680,000 tests monday. a flat line of 800,000 tests and
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now down below that. public health experts say that's too few. the positivity rate has been dropping, monday at 4.6%. the experts tell you get it below 5% and then more. there's a controversy of cdc testing guidelines. asymptomatic people maybe don't need the testing that they thought. listen to admiral brett giroir, the testing czar, saying people who say we need daily tests are simply living in a dream world. >> it's great to talk about this utopian kind of idea where everybody has a test, every day, and we can do that. i don't live in the utopian world. i live in the real world and the real world had no tests for this new disease when this first started. we can return society without having everyone have a test every single day. we can do that and showing you
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can do that. >> bring in the cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen saying he lives in the real world. give us context here because the admiral has said a number of things over seven months of testing and the availability and the reliability and turned out not to be true. we are we now? >> in the real world the situation is that things have gotten better, may not be saying much because they were a nightmare to begin with. if admiral giroir feels he needs a pat on the back i will officially give him that pat on the back that things are better than they used to be. they are not still not where they need to be. too many americans are waiting too long to get their test results. if you go in and get a test on a monday and don't get results until wednesday or thursday, you run around potentially infecting other people. this is a great country with people who can do great things.
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why can't we get more tests that are quick within minutes and also accurate? we should have more of these out there this many months into the outbreak. when i hear the admiral say, you know, too many people say, you know, we should test every american every day i have never heard anyone make that argument. he's done this before. he says people say we can test our way out of the pandemic. i have never heard anyone seriously say that. he needs to stop making up the boogie men to fight against. we tell him he needs to do better. >> yeah. competence would be good. start there. he's had some pressures shall we say. elizabeth cohen, appreciate the context there. up next, the president of a university saying it's setting an example of how often to test to keep your community safe. olay faced expensive serums and won.
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as thousands of students head back to campuses, universities wrestling with managing the clusters of coronavirus that pop up, some turning to widespread testing of students, faculty and other employees in an attempt to control and avoid outbreaks. one is university of illinois system testing the students, faculty and staff at least once a week. with me is the president of the university of illinois system. mr. president, grateful for your time. seven-day advantage of positivity rate at some of the campuses, 0.79%, chicago 0.64%. those are remarkably low.
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where you want to be in the middle of a pandemic. >> we are innovating with the faculty, working hard to sort of attack the virus, not just watch it and recognize to do that. with computational means and testing and we have developed our own test, now fda approved that we're testing everybody on a flagship campus twice a week. we conducted about 169,000 tests already in the last couple of weeks as campus gets going which we're now routinely doing 2% of the total tests in the united states and the reason to do that is to track where the virus is to determine whether where there's asymptomatic carriers, to look at isolation and quarantine mechanisms to squelch any outbreak as they occur and we want to catch them quickly and take immediate action, so it's fast, frequent testing that we do and we'll link up with the public health authorities and we
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also use digital means for automated exposure notification. that's helpful. >> help me understand the cost ratio here because you hear -- earlier in the program listening to admiral giroir saying i don't live in a utopia world and no one's saying test everybody every day but people say we need faster, reliable testing at a reasonable cost point to send students back to campus and put people back on factory floors. what is your coast point? >> that's what we've been working on and we have got the cost about $15 per test. marginal cost and we're moving to get it cheaper than that and the reason is we moved out to -- don't have a need for reagents or swabs. we do students that transport the saliva vials and we reduced the cost for widespread testing
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on the campuses. it reassures the students, the parents and taken it to the point where you can't get into a class unless you have a recent negative test on your cell phone that you show orion tn the way >> this is dr. birx, i'm sure you're following the data looking at the surge in the south and where it came from which should be a warning to every university president. listen. >> we know that what happened across the south was primarily driven by 18 to 25-year-olds across the south with asymptomatic spread sending these individuals back home in their asymptomatic state to spread the virus in their hometown among their vulnerable households could be really recreate what we experienced over the june time frame in the south. every university president should have a plan for testing and caring for the students that
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need to isolate. >> i was looking at the briefing materials about the plan. walk viewers through it in the idea if you have an outbreak on campus you don't send them home to spread it but isolate them. walk through that. >> yeah. we are testing every week, twice a week everybody, faculty, staff, students and catching a lot of asymptomatic carriers so we put them in comfortable isolation immediately working with the public health authorities where they can continue their studies and they have food and they have the medical attention on daily basis and anybody exposed by the carrier gets a notification and go in quarantine and housing set aside for that and we want to continue the educational mission to move forward in the degrees and programs now but if they carry did virus we don't want them spreading it and go immediately into isolation and the key in our approach is fast.
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same day turn around so my test yesterday took six hours to come back to my cell phone. when we get that then there's no time for the virus to spread so we're going fast, frequent and i can completely agree with dr. birx that that age group is often asymptomatic and healthy and unless you're testing and figuring out where the virus is it is like getting the canary in the coal mine and our testing is designed to get the name of the canary and the address of the coal mines and to act very quickly if there's an outbreak and you will see outbreaks and you will see rapid urgent action as needed at the university of illinois. >> very well put. timothy killeen, sir, grateful for your time and insights and i hope your success continues. thank you for your time today, sir. >> thank you. some see a parallel to a campaign a generation ago.
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the fbi director must explain why in writing why there's no warning to the attorney general. this is a reaction to errors the fbi made gathering information on carter page in 2016 and 2017. president trump's visit to wisconsin draws a parallel to 1992. it was arkansas governor bill clinton who was the first of visit of sites of rioting in los angeles over rodney king a black man and the acquittal of the white police officers caught on tape beeting him. the officers acquitted by a mostly white jury. clinton's message, made the case that 12 years of bush/reagan neglect led the nation to that moment. president bush, some of it mirrors what you hear from president trump now. >> we are concerned about any question of excessive police violence and we are equally
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concerned about excessive public violence. to restore order right now, there are 3,000 national guardsmen on duty in the city of los angeles. what we saw last night and the night before in los angeles is not about civil rights. i'm not here in the mode of politics or partisanship. i'm not here in the mode of blame but to learn from the community. >> with me to discuss cnn's paul begallia and jeffrey angle. jeffrey, we just listened to former president bush there. yes, he had a law and order theme but also did mention -- he was worried of pliolice brutali and the tone different than the common president.
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the attorney general womilliam barr in both cases. >> calm is important to remember because president bush among all things wanted to lower tension. there's actually an evolution in bush's response to the los angeles riots over the first few days. the initial reaction is simply to say the jury returned the verdict and the system worked and respect that verdict and then went on as you heard on the tape to tell people that he wanted to make sure there's law and order and then really crucial thing is in the middle of that speech he said but i want to be clear, what i saw on the videotape was an injustice. what i saw was a terrible transgression of rodney king's civ rights and ordering the justice department to investigate themselves. so in essence he put himself on the sympathetic side of the people protesting even while he was trying to tamp down the violence and of course the key distinction is he didn't play a role in fomenting the violence. nobody accused george bush of
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trying to make it worse on the streets of los angeles. >> paul, i was on the trip with governor clinton in may 1992 going to los angeles. i want to listen to a little bit of the message then and follow up on the point jeffrey made. >> there are a lot of places like south central l. aa. all or the u.s. where people are angry without the jobs and opportunity and where people are -- there's too much tension of people of different races where they don't live together. >> governor clinton did make a case of my word neglect. his case is that reagan and bush did not spend enough time on economic empowerment in the african-american community. did not as we hear today and jeffrey said president bush however you fault him and did fault him quite well at the time he was not somebody stoegiking violence. >> exactly right. you were on the trip. i was on the trip. in private as well as in public governor clinton thought that
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the response first of governor wilson a republican governor of california deploying the national guard and the president sending in troops was fine. the critique is systemic issues of economic enjustice and racial injustice and police violence against minority communities that had been neglected for too long and used that word neglect and a different critique. no fair minded person thought that george h.w. bush stoked violence. that attorney general at the time, how clueless is this? the system is fair and does not treat people safely after the rodney king verdict and still attorney general today. clueless then, clueless now. but clinton's critique is systemic than it was about bush himself. >> i think that's a key point, jeffrey, because just today the president of the united states was asked to have racial healing
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and said yes and left out the part they would not like to be fear when their sons and daughters go out that they'll pulled over or shot. bill barr was law and order then and there's no systemic negligence and same man today. >> yes. what george h.w. bush saying at the time is really important because on the one hand he admitted that there was essentially structural problems and used that term but said structural racism in all but the words and every american had a responsibility to sure that every other america felt safe and secure and didn't offer solutions. in essence, george bush looked at the situation and realized that this was kind of a same critique that the clinton camp making correct and didn't know what to do and recognized there was a problem. >> and, paul, so fast forward. what should joe biden be doing now in handling a very different
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incumbent president? >> you have to do two things. you have to speak out against violence. period. violence is always wrong. joe had that right yesterday in pittsburgh. what clinton said at the time in l.a. is 68 people killed in los angeles riots in 1992. clinton said that rioting is understandable but still unforgivable. in other words, you have to acknowledge the rage and the pain and the frustration and draw the line at violence. biden did that. you have to step up the way jeffrey talked about and talk about the systemic problems and i don't think mr. trump is good at that. biden gave a terrific speech yesterday in pittsburgh. we wantsd to acknowledge that violence and racism is always wrong and needs to work on both. >> appreciate your insights on the current day and a generation ago. coming up, kamala harris making a surprise cameo in a record breaking single battle between two r&b legends.
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>> definitely agree. >> singing and dancing all night with you all. >> thanks for joining us. hope to see you back here tomorrow. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a good day. hello, i'm brianna keilar and welcome viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. we are awaiting the first images of president trump in kenosha, wisconsin. the city outraged by the police shooting of jacob blake last weekend. the white house has promised a unifying visit but that would be a gross departure of what we have seen from the president. both the wisconsin governor and the mayor of kenosha have asked him not to come. but as the president heads to kenosha, there are some new documents out of his white house that show the extent to which he is lying to americans about the coronavirus pandemic. the house sub commit tee on coronavirus just released eight weeks of state
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