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the city's powerful teachers' union. more than 1 million students are set to resume classes one to three days a week beginning september 21st. it will be a hay juror test to the city, one the entire country will be following. among those set to start closes are isabella and calvin. >> "ac 360" starts now. so the president traveled to kenosha torn over the police shooting of a black man and never once mentioned that man jacob blake by name. the president travels around america, a nation torn by a pandemic and lately never mentions it at all. for the president it's the pandemic that shall not be named. john berman here for anderson. there is breaking news tonight on that front. a major new sign of how soon a vaccine might become available. this could be a seriously hopeful development but given the president's track record on the virus, there is reason to
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wonder if the timing might have more to do with politics than sound public health. late new detail the on that in just a moment. first, though, the president's effort as in kenosha to talk about anything but the matter at hand. more than 185,000 lives lost to the pandemic. the one that shall not be named. the case count is at best plateauing at a shockingly high level and at worse, it is spiking in yet another new region. this time the midwest. here is the governor of iowa, one of the president's staunchest supporters by the way doing what the president apparently cannot. >> as you may have seen in the news headlines in recent days, iowa had the highest rate of increase in covid-19 cases nationally last week and the fifth highest positivity rate increase in the country. growth of new cases has accelerated especially as social activity among young adults and on college campuses. >> now she won't issue a mask mandate but at least she admits
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the positivity rate around the university of iowa tripled and now at a staggering 29.7%. that is what iowa and other states mainly in the midwest are now facing. nationwide, more than 1,000 new deaths reported yesterday and more than 40,000 new cases and though both figures are declining somewhat, the outbreak appears to be plateauing at nearly twice the level it did back around memorial day. so at a moment when just as back then things could go in either direction with schools reopening and another holiday weakened approaching, the president could be telling americans to keep up the mask wearing and social distancing. for that matter, he could actually be doing those things himself, but as you can see from his trip to north carolina today, he's not. not doing and not talking. so what is he talking about? well, for starters, about the election. the 2016 election. >> i think i could win. i think i did win the popular vote.
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there was tremendous cheating in california. >> right, he didn't and there wasn't. that's from a taped interview that aired on fox last night. there is also this smear of his current ocpponenopponent. >> he's on some kind of an enhancement in my opinion and we should both, i should take a drug test and so should he because we don't want a situation where a guy is taking some kind of -- >> like athletes -- >> no, no, he should take -- i want to take one. he'll take one. we should both take a drug test. >> he offered his evidence the former vice president became a better debater as the campaign went on. so much for practice being the way to get there. now we know it drugs. keeping them honest, what the president of the united states said is pure b.s. what is even worse, it has nothing to do with the reality facing tens of millions of parents wondering how to safely educate their children or millions looking for jobs or the millions who knew and loved 185,000 people who have lost their lives in the last six months. what he is saying and doing has
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nothing to do with the pandemic. the one that shall not be named. now, to be fair, he did talk about it a tiny bit on fox the other night but that was only to lie about it. >> by the way, i saw a statistic come out the other day talking about only 6% of the people actually died from covid, which is interesting they died from -- >> they had co-morbidities but the covid might have been the key moore brbidity. you still having fun doing this? >> he answered quote, i'm having a good time. the theory most coronavirus deaths weren't really coronavirus deaths. the cdc bedudebunked it today. the 185,000 people that died from coronavirus died from coronavirus. a pandemic that does have a name. so this is just part of the backdrop to the breaking news tonight that the cdc has told
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state public health officials to prepare to distribute a vaccine as early as the end of next month and sent planning documents offering details of distribution and who should get akno aknocklated first. now as you know, several vaccine candidates recently began phase three trials and in the past week, dr. anthony fauci and steven hahn said certain groups may get a vaccine before the trials are complete if the data is overwhelmingly positive. our next guest has her doubts. she is an epidemiologist at george mason university. professor, we appreciate you being with us. what do you make of the new guidance and timeline that it implie implies? >> it extremely concerning. i think it very premature. the concern is we'll be rolling out vaccines to health care workers very, very early on in phase three well before we have the data to support it. >> so you say it hard to see
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this as anything other than a preelection vaccine push. so you're concerned it's being politicized? >> very much. >> what do you mean? >> it hard not to see that. the vaccines are to be pushed out november 1st and the election is november 3rd. it considering suddenly we're pushing through very many safety protocols for vaccines for safety that could have serious ramifications and an effort for president trump to push this as an election piece, which is concerning from a public health standpoint, safety standpoint and a trust and science standpoint. >> so both dr. anthony fauci and steven hahn on the coronavirus task force said a vaccine may be available for certain groups before clinical trials are completed if, if the data overwhelmingly indicates it's safe and effective. what about that? about if the data says this is overwhelmingly safe and effective, would it be worth trying to get it to certain people earlier? >> i think the biggest piece is that overwhelmingly effective
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and safe notion and the truth is that many of these haven't even hit phase three until late july. that means you have to enroll 30,000 people. you have to in many cases have two vaccines. so how are you really enrolling that many people and checking enough data at that point to roll this out safely to say it is okay for health care workers? because the truth is, you know, we don't want to be pushing this and we're not there yet. a lot of this phase three takes years in the making and even if we do have an overwhelmingly good data, which we simply don't have right now, that would be an entirely different ball game and frankly, we're just not seeing that from a standpoint. >> what needs to happen before it's spread to people across the country? >> we need to have as dr. fauci mentioned overwhelmingly positive data. we need to make sure it's working 50% of the time. that it's protecting 50% of
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those vaccinated and no negative outcomes. right new in the u.s. we have unfortunately a lot of vaccine he is t hesitant si and we don't want to push it for political reasons and distrust of the cdc or science behind this. >> professor, appreciate you being with us. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. joining us now, dr. sanjay gupta, also william hazeltine. "a family guide to covid." sanjay, you heard the professor. what do you make of the guidance from the cdc and are you concerned that this has the whiff of political interference? sgle wi >> we have to take this in context. the hydroxychloroquine issue very little evidence and that made people question some of this decision making, the same
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thing with the convalescent plasma. so, what i would say is we've got to be vigilant about the vaccine. the places prepared, that makes sen sense. some vaccines have to be stored at certain temperatures and also, as we've talked about, john, a vaccine should have a different bar than a they arapec medicine, it has to have a higher bar and if you look at the language carefully around why an authorization would occur, it usually because there is no viable alternative, right? well, i hate to say it and i know people don't like to hear this but the alternative to a vaccine could be that, you know, we wear masks and distance longer and give us enough time to actually make sure this is nailed down. >> so professor, hazeltine, your
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take? the government to rush a vaccine before the vaccine before phase three trials are done? >> it a very unwise move. what they are hoping is there is a data safety monitoring board to look at the data in the middle of the testing process and determine it's worked well. data safety monitoring boards almost never give a green light at that stage and that's what they have to do. the previous speakers discussed how difficult that would be. this is a political hail mary in my view. it's sort of like a buzz er better. it's a despite move by an administration that failed to control this epidemic using
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tools that we know work. that's the problem. we have an epidemic we need isn't have because of failures and hoping to redeem this at the very last minute with a hail mary. i actually watched doug with his hail mary. sometimes they work. we should all hope they work but you can't count on it in a football game, basketball game and you certainly can't count on it playing with people's lives. >> beating miami is one thing, beating a pandemic is something else. sanjay, you heard dr. fauci and steven hahn say they are in favor of it if the data is overwhelming. so what data? how much data will we see the data. what do we know of what the science will actually show and how much will be revealed? >> well, you know, as dr. hazeltine was saying, this data safety monitoring board, they
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don't actually authorize this emergency use authorization but they do look at the data first, the scientific data and, you know, could it be that they say that people are getting the first dose because it's going to be two doses. if they get the first dose and it's so overwhelmingly favorable that they say hey, look, we're sending this to the fda and they will make the decision about eua or not. that would be the sort of data that we're talking about here but it's just that's going to take time. i mean, that takes time and that board is an independent board but, you know, they have to be able to have the time to look at this data, probably have to look at the two doses given and follow these patients along for sometime to see if this isfective and to see if it's safe. so the basic thing that they are trying to find scientifically is the same but the passage of time is important to evaluate the data. >> professor hazeltine, i want
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to say what the president said about a vaccine timeline in recent months. let's listen. >> i'm rushing it. i am. i'm pushing everybody. if you had another president other than me, you wouldn't be talking vaccines for two years. >> we can see that, a vaccine? >> sooner than the end of the year, could be much sooner. >> sooner than november 3rd? >> i think in some cases, yes, possible before but right around that time. >> we're balancing speed and safety and we're on pace to have a vaccine available this year, maybe far in advance of the end of the year. we'll likely have a therapeutic and/or vaccine solution long before the end of the year. we are delivering life-saving therapies and we'll produce a vaccine before the end of the year or maybe even sooner. >> so the president is flat out stating or implying a vaccine might be available to everybody
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before the end of the year. that might be political. is it even possible, professor hazelti hazeltine? >> it is extremely difficult. you know, we in science learn to say nothing is impossible. we can say things are extremely difficult and highly improbable and that's the case here. i can tell you one thing for sure, in the amount of time we have between now and the end of the year is not even, don't ever, we're not going to know effective this vaccine will be. you need more than a year to see if a vaccine is safe. people asked me the question, doctor, would you take this vaccine in november? my answer is absolutely not. i will not be convinced that it's either effective or safe no matter what the day day safety monitoring board says or no matter what the fda says at this
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poi point. they said two things aren't safe has emergency use authorization to the detriment of patient's health. >> talk about that sanjay, whether it be hydroxychloroquine that we put to bed or convalescent plasma. the commissioner said he had to mangle the data at best. how can these agencies be trusted now? >> i know. this is really disappointing and viewers must have a lot of confusion, a lot of whiplash over this because usually, you know, not always but usually the scientific agencies do speak with the unified voice and it's been back and forth. i mean, you know, those two examples of hydroxychloroquine and convalescent plasma are i think important to look at. we can't look at these things in
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isolation anymore. we have to see what the track history has been with this fda. i'm curious, dr. hazeltine, i'm curious if these things had not happened, the hydroxychloroquine and the convalescent plasma decisions, would you consider taking a vaccine in november if the fda approved it? >> no, i wouldn't. there is not enough time. the two vaccines that appear to be the ones moving forward fastest have a couple of big question marks. they are using technologies that have never been used before. that's not necessarily bad but not good. the second thing is there are very peculiar requirements of it, a deep, deep freeze minus 70 degrees or more to keep it stable. the other minus 20 degrees. friends of mine run big pharmacy chains. they don't have those facilities
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there are big questions of how you would roll this out. not only that when you actually look at the wording of who is going to be eligible to get these vaccines, there is a lot of big questions there. who is essential to the economy? a billionaire or a guy that keeps the sewage running? who is essential? i don't know who will make that decision but they will make those decisions so a lot of questions about what is going to happen, how it going to happen and exactly what it is they are going to push forward and on what basis they will do it. >> sanjay, fair game here. what would it take for you to be comfortable in november to take this? >> so i -- yeah, i agree with this. i look at it like this. you know, the idea of what is the alternative, people are balancing this against getting the country up and running again. what i would say is that there
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are places around the world that returned to some sense of normalcy again without a vaccine. the idea we could wait, make sure this is nailed down like i said and safe, effective and we have the data to show that. in the meantime, we just do have to adopt public health practices. it doesn't mean we have to be shutdown. that's the trade off and will increasingly become the diskougs point, john, around this. do we want to rush it because we just simply can't wear masks and physically distance? i just don't think that's a good idea. >> sanjay, professor hazeltine, thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank you. next, attorney general barr making news on two fronts with the allegation he's making about jacob blake being armed and the evidence or lack after it provided. we'll get a live report on mr. blake's condition and what the attorney general said and didn't say about the president's conspiracy theory about thugs on
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incapacitated and unarmed. in the jacob case, he was in the midst of committing a felony and he was armed. so that's a big difference. from the standpoint -- >> his family says he wasn't armed. >> well -- >> there may have been a knife in the car but he wasn't armed when he was shot. >> well -- >> that's what his family and lawyer says. >> so barr added by the way he did not believe there was systemic racisracism. sara sidner, you spoke to the blake family. what's their reaction to the assertion from the attorney general. >> reporter: yeah, john, we spoke to justin blake and his father and brother and said look he feels barr is misinformed and there are definitely two justice systems and points to what happened here and he talked about all you have to do is look at the videos that came from here. the 17-year-old who was accused
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of killing two people in the streets, he says look, he is a 17-year-old white teenager who had a huge long gun after the shooting, after those shots went off the second time, he was able to walk right past several police vehicles and make his way all the way home which was in illinois so he was able to go home from one state to the next and wasn't even stopped and he says you compare that with seeing his nephew, jacob blake shot in the back by officers and says look, if he can't see two justice systems he is blind to what is happening in america. he says there is systemic racism and we heard from the family over and over and over again and their family attorney benjamin crump and others jacob blake was not armed. they are sticking with that. there is no evidence he was armed and they have definitivety said he was not armed. so the blake family upset hearing from barr and also feel
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he's doing trump's bidding. those are his words and that he is not representing the american people, which is the job that he is supposed to be doing that they feel he is speaking to donald trump as opposed to the country as a whole. john? >> sara sidner, thanks for your reporting. for perspective, i want to bring in democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee. we heard from attorney general william barr saying without providing evidence that jacob blake was in the midst of committing a felony and he was armed when the police shot him seven times. you just heard what sarah sa si reported the blake family and attorneys denied that but what do you make of barr saying that? >> no, it's good to be with you this evening. sometimes the nation needs a commander in chief of healing. obviously the trump administration has failed badly in healing the nation and dr. jill and joe biden will be
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tomorrow. as a member of the house judiciary for a very long time from republican and democratic administration, i am sad to say the people's lawyer is no more. what attorney general would make a non-factual basic statement to add more fuel to the fire to the discourse and the pain that not only the family is feeling deeply, the young man is now paralyzed, was vibrant young father. as a lawyer what i would say, is that i would never represent to anyone the facts of a case that have not been played out. we don't have testimony from mr. blake. we don't have testimony from the
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officers including the shooter and all he has is possibly someone whispering in his year or maybe it was a meeting of law enforcement that gave him information. if that's the case, they violated to provide what has been given to the family, the family's lawyer. everyone knows or has been acknowledged that there has been a weapon, a knife in the floorboard but we also know that there are gradations in the kind of weapons one might have. as the video shows, as everyone saw, as the nation saw, it is very clear that we could not see any movement by mr. blake that would put the officers in fear of their life. that's the relevant point. >> the part of it that is interesting to me, there is an investigation on going. we talk to representatives from
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wisconsin every day and consistently ask them on tv, give us the latest on the investigation. what do you know about jacob blake? he a was he armed? they refuse to tell us anything but the attorney general went on tv definitively and said he was armed. so what does it tell you that he's willing to? does it do to the investigation when the attorney general does that? >> he is the highest law enforcement officer in the nation when he speaks, when other attorney generals have spoken that have been under as i've said remember kaun and dpu democratic candidates, we have looked to them to be factual and truthful. what it says is that he is skewed this case. he's tainted this case. he's tainted the jury. we have asked for these officers to be fired. they have due process rights. and those rights will play out.
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but there is a visiual of an individual citizen, not threatening the officer in question, not turning, not moving, not lifting an arm. that is not visible and i think the video is pretty clear and what they are saying is now that that individual was armed but if that individual was armed, what threat did he pose to the existing committee. why wasn't there a deescalation. >> as i said, we're waiting for the investigation, even if the attorney general is not. i want to play you one more bit of sound by the attorney general when he was asked about the issue of systemic racism. >> i don't think there is two justice systems. the narrative that the police are on some epidemic of shooting unarmed black men is simply a false narrative and also the narrative that's based on race. >> your response? >> well, he and the president
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are both living in another world, another era, another time. they can't even counter the question of black lives matter in the positive intent that it had and the fact the majority of americans through this process were committed to understanding and supported the concept black lives matter. but to that point, john, i will say to you, i asked that same question in the judiciary committee, the same feeble answer, it's a hurting answer. it lacks understanding of history. does he understand lynching? does he understand the terrible divide in the criminal justice system or mass incarceration, the dominance of african americans incarcerated both and federal prisons. does he understand the litiney the african american men and women that have fallen to the hands of officers unarmed.
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walter scott, ahmaud arbery was under civilian patrol, mr. brooks, breonna taylor, michael brown, eric garner. one would say they were enforcing the law. i say they have an obligation to protect and serve and most americans understand that. that what we are speaking of is reimagining and focussing on reimagining public safety and focussing on stopping violence and producing police community relationships and as you well know, i'm a strong proponent of the george floyd justice and policing act. that is simply what these protesters are asking for, non-violent protesters. we don't support violence or violent protesters. could the president have spoken to that in kenosha? could he have spoken to the sympathy and empathy needed not
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only by the family of mr. blake but the whole community? they needed a hug if you will. they needed a healer. what we got was an attorney general who in essence undermined the investigation, tainted the jury, tainted the public opinion and had no facts and he gave facts out that as you have so apply said, local law enforcement have not told us. i'm extremely disappointed. >> congresswoman, appreciate you being with us. we have breaking news. we learned just now what appears to be the makings of presidential action to withhold federal funds from cities recently beset by protest and violence run by democratic mayors. joining us is kaitlan collins. so, what's going on here? cities are being targeted by the president in a memo that i understand was just released? >> yeah, this is a memo that the president just signed and he specific recalls out several
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cities. seattle, portland, new york, washington d.c. and basically what he is saying in this memo is he is threatening to cut off federal funding into the cities because he says they quote allow themselves to deteriorate into lawless zones. this memo threatening to restrict federal funding and calling them anarchists and he says he's instructing the justice department to determine which ones are considered anarchist jurisdictions and telling the budget office to look at federal funds they get and find a way to redirect them there are going to be a lot of questions about this and how serious this threat is because if the president did move forward with this, tries to cut off federal funding from the cities, of course, a lot of cities he talked about recently saying they are run by democrats, that's likely going to be immediately challenged in court. and we've seen the president threaten to do something of this manner before. you'll recall when he threatened
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to cut off funding to sanctuary cities. this is important to keep in mind as the president says they want to make sure federal funds aren't being wasted or spend that directly violates our government's promise to protect life, liberty and property. you have to consider the backdrop of this, the president trying to make this election about law and order. we've seen polls that show that is not really something that's resonated with voters yet. he's trying to push that message, john. >> the president threatened a lot of things he doesn't follow through on. he has width of trying to keep the issue in the news as long as he possibly can. kaitlan collins, thanks. we have more breaking news ahead. wolf blitzer asks the attorney general for any proof of the specific flight the president keeps talking about that was allegedly filled with thugs. what do we hear the evidence that the attorney general did not provide when "360" continues. ♪ ♪ take the good, with the bad
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the president as you know have spreading a conspiracy theory about a terror plane almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. he first said the plane was heading from someplace to washington targeting the republican convention and then said it was leaving washington when pressed for details, he said it was quote under investigation, which made attorney general william barr, asked about the specific incident. the attorney general said he knew of many reports of many people in black coming from many
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cities to in his words cause a riot in washington. when pressed on the specific story or pair of stories, he said this. >> i don't know what the president was referring to, but i will say that we are trying to follow these things and we received numerous reports of people coming from other cities into washington as we received many reports of people going into kenosha from various states. >> you're not -- you're saying you don't know specifically what the president was referring to? >> no, i don't know what the president was referring to. >> he seems to be talking in general terms. >> okay. he was not speaking in general terms. specific flights, and specific times. ted lieu ted lu that wrote fbi director wray if the burr lo is investigating. what do you want from the fbi here? >> thank you for your question. there are always going to be people that believe a conspiracy
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theory but the president of the united states should not be one of them. he is supposed to rely on the facts and evidence and instead, donald trump has been spewing conspiracy theories that have made the coronavirus pandemic worse and now he's spewing conspiracy theories that are making the chaos and violence under his watch even worse. and congressman hakim jeffreys and i want to know is the president using official resources to investigate his wild theories? if he is, he needs to stop. they have much better things to do. >> i think the president was speaking in general terms providing cover for the president. >> attorney general bill barr was once again making stuff up because the president was very specific. he would talk about a plane loaded with thugs. he talked about them being dressed in black, they are going to do some big damage in washington d.c. all of that was false. that didn't happen.
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whale it's tr while it's true people have gone to various cities right wing and other groups for example, we know kyle rittenhouse traveled across state lines to go to kenosha and it's also true people fly on planes and dress however they want to. there is no evidence this fantastical stuff happened that the president is talking about. >> kyle rittenhouse is charged in the death of two people. have you received any response from the fbi? what have they told you? >> we have not. we ended today so we would like to give them a few days to look into it. the fbi has better things to do. they should be for example investigating quite the department homeland security withhold evidence about the russians spreading lies about joe biden's health. that should be investigated. they should also investigate the postmaster general. there are much better things for the fbi to be doing. >> one of the things wolf also talked to the attorney general
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about is the election. the repeated claim he keeps on making there foreign countries will interfere with mail in voting. wolf pressed him and said what evidence? evidence do you have foreign countries are trying to meddle in mail in voting? and the attorney general said i don't have evidence. he produced no evidence. he said it's logic that tells us and tells him it's going to happen. what did you make of that argument? >> i'm a foreign prosecutor. if i walk into court and tote a judge's jury, i have no evidence, just logic i would be laughed out of court and the attorney general is making stuff up. he has no evidence that mail in voting is more prone to fraud. in fact, it's the opposite and there are states that have done mail in balloting for years including the state of florida. donald trump has said that mail in balloting in florida is good to go. well, if it's good to go in florida, it's good to go in other states.
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you can't make these random distinctions because donald trump likes florida. the attorney general is making stuff up without any factual basis. >> ballot fraud in general is very, very small. mail in voting fraud happens in a slightly higher rate but that, too, is very small. the effort now should be on making it safe and reliable given we're in a pandemic, not complaining and spreading conspiracy theories about it. appreciate your time. thanks very much. >> thank you, john. straight ahead, we'll take you to houston in the story of a family hit hard being evicted and deputies being orderedered to uphold the order to halt some of the evictions caused by the pandemic. kblap was that your grandfather, leading armies to battle?
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. the center for the disease control is looking to halt evictions for americans that
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can't pay rent because of the effects of coronavirus. it's not clear how that will be done but administration says the order will apply to americans that qualify for payments under the stimulus bill and have to prove they cannot pay rent due to covid-19. there is no question some affected by the pandemic are going through severe financial hardship including the people cnn's kyung law found in housto houston. >> constable. >> reporter: from one houston home to the next, deputy benny gant with the harris county constable's office executes skbruj judge's orders to evict. >> we ain't got nowhere to go. >> reporter: israel is the tenant but he's not alone. 20 month old israel, his brother, 4-year-old fabian and their mother are some of the estimated 40 million americans facing eviction in the downward spiral of the covid economy. >> get everything you need.
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>> reporter: rodriguez admits he hasn't been paying rent, behind thousands of dollars. >> it's my fault in the eviction. it was a lot going on. when it hit, i lost my job. it took me a it took me like a month to get another job. this is my check, but i ain't making it with $300. it's literally $300. their stroller now carries their possessions. >> it's mainly the kids clothes. we make sure we got toilet paper and snacks for the kids. >> what are you going to do with all your stuff? >> that's trash. we don't have a car, we don't have help, we don't have nobody that can come help us out right now. nobody. we have ourselves. >> how do you feel about seeing that family have to go? >> it's a tough situation, i got six kids, six children. and when the kids see a mom and
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dad in a desperate situation, it's tough. >> deputy gant an officer for 35 years is just starting his day. eight evictions on his list. >> at each stop people behind on rent are ordered to leave. possessions pulled out. >> where are you going to go now? >> we're going to a hotel. >> you can go to a hotel? >> as deputy gant works through his list, we get word that 200 eviction orders have come through the harris county courts this week. that's double what they normally saw for an entire month before covid. >> 200 on monday. what does that. >> that's a lot, yeah. >> what does that say to you? >> that means they're ready to start having people removed from properties. >> it is a backlog. but it's also just one precinct in one of america's hit cities in evictions. the job takes its toll. >> i don't want to really put
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her out here, but i have to under this judge's order. >> at this apartment, the tenant is an elderly woman who can no longer afford the rent. the landlord's mover works, though he doesn't want to. >> i have a family. i have a sister. maybe tomorrow it's me, you know? midway through the eviction, deputy gant decides it's too dangerous to eye victim her in the houston summer heat. >> i'm not going to put her out here in this heat. >> and will call social services today. >> tomorrow you're leaving. >> a one day reprieve with an uncertain tomorrow. >> you have a situation where people aren't working, they don't have money and they're desperate. >> that's heart breaking. that's just heart breaking to see what these people are going through. i know there was a cdc
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announcement today, you've been reporting on it. is it clear how it might work? >> absolutely not. here's the view from harris county, the constable's office here has put a hold on everything. as local municipalities try to figure out exactly what does this mean. are there going to be challenges in court. what does this mean if there's a state authority that steps in, like an attorney general. they don't know at this point. what about the rights of landlords. on that day that we follow the constable's office, we spoke to a lot of landlords who said, hey, look, the banks want their money, what about us. we have tens of thousands we have to pay up. >> then it's a question of, who do you evict. some people won't be evictable if they make a certain income or if they have or have not filled out the right paperwork. >> it's very confusing, on the
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side of the tenants. what tenants are saying, this is nice and all, but there's no rent forgiveness, this is simply kicking the can down the road on january 1st, if they haven't kept up, there's going to be a tremendous bill due for a lot of people that you've heard about in this story, john. >> what a story, what an important piece of reporting there. thank you so much for shining a light on it. the house speaker walks into a hair salon and walks out in a storm of questions about whether she broke quarantine rules. it's about what she said about what she did that turned the storm into something even more. between ideas and inspiration, trauma and treatment. gained a couple of more pounds. that's good for the babies. between the moments that make us who we are, and keeping them safe, private and secure, there's webex.
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a questionable decision for nancy pelosi. she's inside a hair is a long
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this week in san francisco. that's against the rules. she's also seen not wearing a mask in this portion of the video release. her staff insists she did wear one just not here while getting her hair wash. pelosi blamed the hair salon whose owner released the video. >> i take responsibility for trusting the word of a neighborhood issalon i've been many times over the years. they said we're able to accommodate one person at a time, we can set up that time. as it turns out, it was a setup, so i take responsibility for falling for a setup. >> now, she offered no proof, you would think the house speaker would know the rules in san francisco herself. the salon owner responded, she said the charge of a setup is false. speaker pelosi had been
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decimated by critics and the gop would take back the house. the crowds of unmasked and socially undistanced audience members in the president's maskless visit to a hurricane relief center in louisiana last week. masks should be warn when in public indoors and out. it is fair to criticize the house speaker who should have known better, but it's fair to criticize anyone who breaks the restrictions, guidelines and common sense we all should live by. i'll hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. >> maybe she was listening to the president who said masks are weakness? who held his big speech about how to control the pandemic in front of a crowd that was largely without masks. maybe pelosi is falling under the influence. i am chris cuomo and welcome to prime time. we can all agree on this, every one of us. nothing that we are dealing with in america today is