people wanting help has been touching and widespread. joining me now is allen rosen, the harris county precinct, thank you so much for being with us. that story is just heartbreaking. do you have any updates of that young family. >> just as you mentioned the overwhelming gifting spirit of americans kicked in at the time of this pandemic hurting so many families. there had been numerous of people helping. the city of houston and harris county has assistant program that's also helping people. the giving spirit of americans, this is what we are about and so they are getting help and we are trying to help other people and

the cdc helped with that. >> that's right, the cdc stepped in. you suspended eviction for now and to suspend it for the rest of the year. what we saw a couple of days ago is no longer happening. i want to talk about the feelings of your officers as they are doing this. i know no one wants to put people out of their homes and you want to point out that they're just carrying out the law. >> no, we don't make the law and we are the people that have to enforce it and it is the worst part of my job. it is heartbreaking and so important that we put together a sheet that we give people that we have to unfortunately evict and revousources like rental

aassistan assistance or mental help program and all kinds of programs ensuring they are not left out in the cold. it is something that's not required that we do. we are human beings and we desperately care about the people. i know you have been getting a lot of calls and messages and people asking what they can do to help the people of houston who face evictions, what can they do? >> well, they can give. ensure those dollars to get to people. it is just tremendous of the out pouring support and love to these people and others that are impacted by this. >> allen rosen, we appreciate your time and we appreciate the effort you are doing reaching out to the community. thank you so much for being with

us. >> the news continues. it is time for me to hand it over to chris cuomo for "primetime." >> j.b., thank you very much. 61 days, ladies and gentlemen then we have an election. two months from the election, biden went to kenosha today, two days after trump's visit. if it was trump were addressing the people there, not today but in the early 1960s. this harsh sense of law and order which seems to mean bring down the power of his authority, not that he has that much when it comes to state policing. he got to get these blacks in order. there is no problem beyond their actions.

>> i don't believe that. i think the police are doing an incredible job and i think you do have some bad apples. >> that question is not even for him. he jumps it because he wants to control the narrative. there is no problem, there is a couple of bad apples. it is the orchards. it is not about the police or people having black hearts. no souls. it is a cheap excuse. it is about the system. it is about the money we put in and the results we get out and the way we calibrate the two. it is about how we train and explain and cord mate tordinate. it is big. it is not just policing. it is hiring and it is pain and it is loving. he knows it and he does not sells it. he does not think this country treats some people differently than others especially on the basis of color and perceived

class. that's why joe biden went there. can he sell a different message? he certainly was talking as if he was living a different world from trump. >> the underline racism has existed and so what happens is we end up in a circumstance like you have here in kenosha. >> what do we have here? you got two older white guys, true. these two men bare no resemblance in message or mentality. trump's pitch is clear. single word. fear. first it was muslims, remember? islam hates us, got to ban them. muslim ban is what i call it. then it was mexicans, the brown

menace as i say he constructed, coming for your women and your jobs, they're ms-13 and bringing drugs and killers. now, pictures to his latest pretensions, blacks are out of order. we need strengths and get things back under control. >> do you believe systematic racism is a problem in this country? >> well, you know, you keep getting back to the opposite subject. we should talk about the kind of violence we have seen in portland and here and other places. it is tremendous violence. >> if you were to ask him why were they on the streets? what led to the violence. was it random or a tiktok dance gone rogue? there is a reason they're hitting the treats mr. president, is it your job to acknowledge it?

i think this message would be familiar to us in our collective history if trump had been giving it with a lot of big dogs around him and fire hoses. if you get out of line and if you want more, you are going to get the hose and we are going to get the dogs on you. we have been there. that's not who we are anymore. now, can you sell the other side? biden is saying, yeah, i can. you can't scare people into defiance of reality. >> well, i think -- a lot of people understand that fear does not solve problems, only hope does. >> i will tell you what they're coming after him. wake up. it is a fight. got to act like it. you got to get up and have

energy. now, i know that sounds ridiculous given the context where he was but this is politics. this fight is about people's passions. he met with the blakes family and they did not want to see trump. you know why. he spoke to jacob blake who's out of the icu and here is how biden discussed it. >> he talked about how nothing was going to defeat him. how whether he's walking or not, he's not going to giver up. >> now, there is compassion in that. there is another side also and the president is going to court it aggressively. i understand why. that side is why are you being so nice to blake for, is he really a victim in all this? >> listen. >> if we are going to help, we'll help. it is a question, it is under

investigation and a lot of they thinks -- things happened and other things that we are looking at closely. >> it is not exactly the same. this is like mccain being a loser for getting captured. not exactly. this is not just brazen disrespect for disadvantage. it is about justice and it is about what is fairness under law. blake did apparently resist arrest. what's the argument? all right, so blake is not blame neblam blameless. okay, stipulate to that, accept it. whatever happens after that is okay? it is okay that he got shot? but for resisting so it is not happening. it is their duties to represent our best interests.

they are trained to deescalate and not deal with the force that comes their way. they are trained to be better than what they deal with. the president thinks that the way he handled led to a win in kenosha. listen. >> biden went there today, there was nobody there. there was nobody there. he was a little late, i was going to say hey, we ended that problem. >> it is not a rock concert, mr. president. the governor of wisconsin called for the national guard the day before trump reached out to wisconsin officials. are all people being the same way now? do you give a damn about the people in kenosha? did you go there to help yourself? boy, the answer seems painfully obvious, does it? you are not going to hear it over on tv or hear it from the puppet that tells you different

story that everything is going to hell. it does not matter it is on his watch. oh yeah it does. what is his real answer? he's got it fixed. tell trump if it makes no sense. his new solution to the out cry over injustice is to cut-off funding to cities that are led by democrats. did he realize that republicans live in those cities too? the bigger population center gets, the more they elect democrats. he swore an oath to protect everybody, did he? not just white people who are like him. another dark contrast between trump and biden in kenosha goes yo beyond the issue there. biden has a mask on, did he hav to? he did it to send a message to

us. trump never does. never. trump told the crowd in-doors they should take theirs off if they were more comfortable. tonight he mocked biden for wearing what he himself told us it was our patriotic duty to wear. listen. >> did you ever see a man who likes a mask as much as him and he makes a speech and he always has it, not always but he has it hanging down because you know what it gives him a feeling of security. congressman, give me your mask. i don't want to touch your damn mask. >> listen. don't ever argue to me again that the president gets what we need to do in this pandemic. he says we have to wear a mask. they give them mixed messaging in the beginning. he knows it and we board it.

he says it is patriotic duty. that's b.s. he said it because he had to because he was getting his ass beat all over the country for ignoring the one thing we have. social distance, wear the masks and wash your hands. he does not think anything is patriotic except backing him. if you don't, god have mercy on you because he's coming. he's coming for you worse than any virus ever. trust me. don't you tell me, don't be unfair, he wants people to wear masks. he said it. no, he does not. you just saw him mock it and it is not a joke. he thinks anything that's not good for him is a joke. and i am telling you it is a mistake. he is the leader of this country and we are not out of the woods

in this pandemic. we could get out of them. we don't have to be sick forever. we have to do the right things. and he is not telling us what we need to hear. that's why his supporters think they're showing support for him by not showing support for one another. you don't think people have gotten sick from his rallierall. he's not going to admit. he's a damn liar. responsibility matters and it is his. we are coming up labor day, you know what it means. big groups. you know what that could mean, big surge. let's discuss, dr. zeke emanuel and author of "which country has the world's best healthcare."

bravo to zeke, he serves on biden's campaign coronavirus task force. thank you for joining us, good luck with the book. >> thank you. the president says listen nobody knows what the hell is going on with coronavirus. don't do it. as soon as i got a handle what's going on. nobody handle it better than us. we are handling it as well as anybody else, true? >> false. you have to look at places like taiwan, new zealand, both of those countries, taiwan has 24 million people, fewer than 500 cases. seven deaths in the entire country. the economy is going. new zealand, five million people, fewer than 500 cases and

fewer than ten deaths and place have done poorly like italy, they were in terrible shape in march, they peaked around march 26th or 27th, towards the end of march. and then by may they were very low and they actually were that way for most of the summer until august vacation when people ignored all the public health measures. many other countries did much better than us. we did hit a peak of 66,000 cases per day. we are now down to 40,000, about 33% less. we have a long way to go. we have to get below 10,000 or below 5,000 cases a day. we have to be vigilant in a way that the president has not urged us to be vigilant. >> where do we fall? the we are not in the top ten.

i would say we are not the worse but we are not in the top ten. >> the terms of spots because all clinicians like you arguing they don't like me mentioning our death rate because they say you are punishing our healthcare system for being so good keeping people alive. that's a skewed metric. give me a reason why we did not do well. >> we did not do well for a whole series of reasons. as you know we did not lockdown the country and put in the effective public health measures. while we put those measures, building up our capacity and building up our tracing capacity and ability to isolate people so that if we have small outbreak, we can suppress them. we gotten into a maximum of 800,000 tests per day.

we don't have the infrastructure in place for that. it has not been settled. that's just one example of many factors, you know, ppe is not distributed in the right places. the drug remdesivir has not gone to the right hospitals. it is gone to the hospitals with low number of cases and nhigh number of cases. the outbreak is moving. >> so now it moves into less populated area, people won't be wowed by the numbers but it does not mean it is not impacting communities in the hard land. vaccines sooner equals better for us in this pandemic. if they can do it, trump pulled

off a major big move right before the election, fair analysis? >> oh yeah. he's pounding on it and what's interesting that other countries listen to their scientists and countries that intended to do well and given the scientists the authority to actually drive things and dictate how the procedures ought to go and places that have not done well like the united states and brazil and mexico have tend to ignore science and we have seen it over and over with hydroxychloroquine and plasma where we approved them and only to pull them back because it was political pressure that led to their approvapproval. the fda really did not want to approve the plasma and trump had a tweet storm over last weekend and they came out and said okay

we are going to give it emergency authorization and they made up the data, even the author of the study said we misquoted them. you can see what political pressure does with the fda and i am very afraid. >> if we get the vaccines sooner than anybody else, does that show we are ahead in terms of dealing with the pandemic? >> no. it does not show that we are ahead at all. >> what's interesting that we are doing a lot of these vaccine studies in the united states. you have to do those studies where there is a big outbreak. most countries like germany or norway, you can't do the studies because there are not enough cases. in the united states there are so many cases that you can do the vaccine trial. that shows you how bad we are doing in this country that we have enough cases to actually do the vaccine studs y. >> zeke has known me for a long type.

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jacob blake. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> anthony kennedy. >> the people in that room were the people that are going to be doing the work to rebiuild this community. on not just a building level so you can come in and hand out the money but we know that our spirit had been hurt. the vice president spoke to us in spirit and hope. the president he lacks empathy

and i think that's the difference. i was able to see someone who saw our pain and knew we didn't need a big event and it is interesting. the last two times i was able to sit and be at peace was when i met with senator baldwin at the jockey headquarters and today when i met at the church with vice president joe biden. no cell phones going off and none of these e-mails and no fires to put out. that's restorative to the soul. >> of course the president is going to mock the masks and he thinks masks are weakness and he thinks the pandemic is a joke and social distancing is a joke to him. i will tell you what he said is not a joke. you crazy black and you cookie white allies running around

burning up your community is a problem. no such thing of systematic inequalities, whatever it means. a few apples in the cops, you guys are the problem. you need some law and order and not some mushy biden talking to criminals in the first place. how do you deal with that message because it resonates lo lo lo loudly? >> if you ask the blake family, we need more policing. i don't think they would agree with you. that shooting happened two blocks away from my house. we talked about the state of wisconsin and the narrative that goes down. the domino kenosha fell. sometimes is hard not to be paranoid and think that we are targeted. before the mail-in ballots come out and all that stuff.

i don't know why we are in this situation. the triggering event is the death of a black man by a police officer. the last person that was killed was killed by an outsider. he came and infiltrated our town and left our town. he was arrested in illinois. the narrative that we need more policing or any other narratives that are going in is hard to put a lot of investment when you see what's happening here. i have always said protesters and demonstrators, i have never worried about it. those are my friends and my neighbors and constituents. there are people that take their demand for social justice and equity for the system and use it

for their purposes. >> anthony kennedy, you know that case is being made against you. my heart and head is with the community. i wish you healing. we'll not forget what happens with these cases. we'll stay and watch. thank god jacob blake is alive. we'll let the facts fall where they do with the analysis. sth >> that's all i have been saying. the facts are going to fall where they are at. we have to build our capacity in our community so that this happens -- how do we put trust back in our system. we still have to live together. we are having difficult conversations about race in kenosha. that's a very good thing because the black community of kenosha

is not monolithic. what people in kenosha starting to realize is even our hometown, people are hurting. we are waking up and people are having discussions and some are a little - they're trying and really trying. >> that's all you can ask for. your leadership is about bringing out different voices in the community and make sure they are heard. i wish you well and i am here and i am always a phone call away to talk about and report what matters. be well. >> thank you again for the opportunity you give us. >> thank you. >> understood. the way we'll stay on this story is not just talking about all

the people but staying on case like this as our evidence of more than just a bad apple. it is about the orchard. it is about how we grow the trees and how we tend to the fruit. it is about how we deal with pests among the tree. it is the whole system. a black man died by suffocation after a police confrontation. this was months before george flo floyd's killing in minneapolis. they say they had been investigating it for a long time. it happened right here in rochester on a snowy night. i will tell you what we care about. we are all brothers and sisters across the country. there is a factor that we ignore all the time. we can't anymore. the man's brother is here. next.

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black man's dead after an encounter with the police. another family is calling for justice and looking for answers. the name is dan yesterday prude. this all began when daniel's brother joe called police, saying that his brother was having a mental health episode and said he was known to take pcp. listen. >> the drug he was on got him to hallucinate. >> the video you will see that he said he had coronavirus and

several officers pinned him on the ground before he stops breathing. keep in mind the medical examiner's report cites complications, asphyxiation as well as what's called excited delirium and acute pcp, intoxicati intoxication. after daniel's brother calls tb police for help, we see another society of officers checking out broken windows which they think may have been done by prude. officers catch up with prude around 3:16 in the morning. >> get on the ground and put your hands behind your back. don't move, man. >> it is cold, there is a light snow going on.

daniel prude is naked. he complies and he's put in handcuffs. while cuffed, you see prude getting worked up. here is more. >> give me your gun, i need it. that's it, he said "give me your gun, i need it." about three minutes, officers placed the spot soit sock over head. it can minimize exposure. prude gets more agitated because they just put the hood over his head. the officer demands him to lay down. that's when three officers physically pin him down. here is a piece of that.

you are trying to kill me. >> one officer did have his knee on prude's back and the other is holding his head on the pav pavement. a third officer can be seen putting his weight on prude's head. prude at this point does, you know it is a matter of subjectivity but he appears to be struggling to breathe. during the struggles, officers realized prude appears to have vomited and soon after paramedics come into assist. they performed cpr for two-minutes. prude was pronounced as brain

dead. the mayor today suspended all officers involved and had tough words for the police chief for not informing that this was a drug overdose as she said she had been led to believe. >> i have addressed with the police chief how deeply and personally and professionally disappointed i am for him failing to fully and inaccurately inform me about what occur with mr. prude. our response to him was wrong. we need to change how we deal with these situations going forward. >> an independent investigation is being handled by the new york

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daniel prude's death can't be treated as an isolated case. his brother, joe prude, along with the family's attorney is

with me. thank you both for joining me. joe, i am sorry for your loss, i am sorry to meet you under these circumstances. joe, when you call the police that night, why? >> for my knowledge like you know, the pattern he was showing me and also with my sister told me over the phone, can he come over so i can help him. >> so i am sure this is not the first time you had to deal with something like this. it is very hard for if family dealing with an addict that has a mental issue. >> that ain't what happened.

>> this was a drug user and everybody knew it and you knew this was only to deal with it. what is the truth. >> that's not the truth. >> my brother went to a party with some friends. i don't think in it was intentionally but somebody slipped something, my sister called immediately, my brother is not akicting right. i need you to get him some help. something ain't right. i toll my sister, okd my sister h i toll my sister, okd my sister h put him on a train and i will get him the help. >> this was something that you did not think you can figure out on your own, you called 911, what did you expect to help? >> my brother get some help.

>> daniel arooirived in rochest joe understands that he was acting erratically. joe and daniel were sitting in the kitchen table and daniel asked joe to get him a cigarette. >> yes, he did. >> i proceeded to give him a cigarette and the next thing i know i heard my back door. i run out behind and i tell my wife that i am calling the police right now. he just ran out the back door. the process of me -- i only dispatched to the police. in the process of me talking to

the police, they showed up and locked me in. now, if you don't start looking for him. how can i go to jail and i am here for you to look for my brother. >> i know they're still looking at the situation. i want you to know that you are welcome back to talk about the case. what i want to get to this is but your brother seemed to be dealing with some kind of mental breakdown. whether it was just one episode, or whether he had some illness to be dealt with, i know the hospital discharged him. but that's not that unusual. do you wish that you had a different number to call so that it wasn't police? it was people who know how to deal with somebody who is having a mental health episode. >> yes, i wish i did have a different number to call because that -- that number i called. that was not the number i needed, and that was not the help that i was looking for.

>> and when they put the sock over your brother, do you believe that he was doing what they said he was doing? that he was saying i have covid, i'm going to spit on you? >> listen, chris. i think that anybody that watches the video can see that what happens when they put the spit sock on his head is -- the words that he said -- he is repeating the same phrases. but his affect is what changes. he's terrified. he's horrified. he's blinded, now. he's got his hands, handcuffed, behind his back. and what do the police officers need to do? take a step back, and wait for the emts to show up. they don't need to do anything. instead, they lose their tempers. they smash his head into the ground. and they suffocate him to death. anybody that watches the video can see that this was a death that did not need to happen. these officers smooshed his head

into the ground, until he stopped breathing, while they're casual casually chatting and cracking jokes. it's horrifying. we expect better from our police officers, and you're right. we need a different system, where people who are trained to deal with people having acute mental health episodes respond and know how to treat somebody with some basic humanity. ask him, are you cold? can i help you? don't worry? an ambulance is coming. >> right. but even if -- even if they're noncompliant, even if they're unruly, what do we see when we go to uphospitals and people ar dealing with acute mental illness? they don't have guns and tasers. they find a way. training matters and i think this case is going to be very instructive. we'll have to see what they find, what the state finds, the attorney general, james, in terms of what was appropriate and inappropriate by the officers. but there is a bigger question that i hope your brother's legacy is part of, which is how

do we deal with people in these situations? how do we help and not hurt? joe, i am so sorry for your family's loss. i want to thank you for trying to get your brother help. and know that we will not stop listening to stories like this and what the right solutions are. and, counsel, you're welcome to contact anytime with new information. >> thank you, chris, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and, joe, thank you for correcting this notion that, well, that's just how daniel was. everybody knew it. no, it wasn't. this was an acute illness and that's why you called the police. joe, thank you and god bless. >> thank you, chris. >> we will take a quick break. we'll be right back. radiant serum foundationge t a super hydrating serum enriched with vitamin b3, in a lightweight formula it doesn't settle into your lines life gets better with age by l'oréal paris we are worth it with acetaminophenctionge

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covid onset glaucoma. the hell does that mean, exactly? after testing positive in early march. she has channeled her experience with the virus into a group called survivor corps. okay? she connects coronavirus survivors and long haulers with researchers and, just as importantly, with each other. because i got to tell you, when there's something wrong with you, or everybody's telling you there's nothing wrong with you, or it's latin for this is what follows, the virus, not a very peaceful place to be. her name is diana barrant and i also have dr. william lee. now, friend of show, trying to help us understand each other. diana, i know about the group, well, obviously. and i appreciate your work. i hope it has been a help to you. i know it's been a help to others. help the audience understand why this is not the freak notion.

that this is not diana's a one off. something happened to her but maybe it would have, anyway. and it's probably not covid. you know, she's probably trying to scare us with something she just doesn't understand. what's your response? >> well, let me tell you, chris. first of all, thanks for having me on. and you have a huge fan base over at survivor corps, representing the interest of all long haulers. so thank you for everything that you are doing. as a country, we are doing a, you know, moderate job at tracking infections, tracking hospitalization, and tracking mortality. but most people are left to recover, like you and i did, at home, in isolation, with tylenol and gatorade. nobody is going to the doctor with covid. nobody is seeing their general practitioner. it's the first time that we've ever, in our collective experience, told people, yeah, you're really sick but don't go to the doctor. don't seek any medical help, unless you think you're dying.

so what happens is that we weren't tracking any of the experiences of those people who are left to recover at home. and what we started to discover, because i'd started survivor corps, back on march 24th, and so we've had, you know, we have almost 100,000 members, now. and -- >> 100,000 members. this isn't just people who have covid. these are people who have covid, who've had freaky stuff happen, afterwards, that people cannot explain. but then, they start getting involved with the group. and there's so much commonality. >> right. and so, we started to see, back in april, because we've really been the canary in the covid coal mine, from the beginning. so, we started seeing, in april, that people were not recovering. and may went into july, into june, into july, and the numbers just started to grow. and, look, the cdc has said that one in three people are not recovering, in te.