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d accessories for your mobile phone. like this device to increase volume on your cell phone. - ( phone ringing ) - get details on this state program visit right now or call during business hours. hello, everybody. i'm john king in washington. thanks so much for sharing your day with us. we expect to hear any moment from the president of the united states at the white house meeting with the serbian president and the prime minister of kosovo. the president is angry about a damning if true report. he and his aides denying a report saying that the president, the american in chief, called american service members who lost their lives in combat losers and suckers. joe biden today gives a big speech on his economic vision and it comes as a new jobs report from the government sparks the campaign debate. the president sees great news. the economy did add 1.4 million
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jobs in august and the unemployment rate is back below 10%. democrat biden will take the broader and the longer view. that job growth was down from july, and there are still 11 million fewer jobs, 11 million fewer jobs, than there were at the beginning of this pandemic. democrat biden will blame that on the president's coronavirus mismanagement. a new model today is simply heart-stopping and reminds us election issue number one is this pandemic and its pain. a model predicts covid-19 will claim another 224,000 american lives, another 224,000 american lives by the end of this year. in other words, that the already staggering u.s. death toll will more than double in the next four months. it is a predictive model meaning it doesn't have to be right. there will be fewer deaths, will be fewer deaths, if there is more mask-wearing and that's especially important as we head not labor day holiday. we expect our leader, of course, to set an example, or at least we used to.
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>> but did you ever see a man that likes a mask as much as him? and then he makes a speech and he always has it, not always, but a lot of times he has it hanging down because you know what, it gives him a feeling of security. if i were a psychiatrist, right, no, i would say -- i'd say this guy's got some big issues. hanging mask. >> just think about that. the president of the united states mocking masks heading into a weekend his experts say is critical to efforts to corral the virus before the infection risk gets higher with the change of seasons. let's take a look at the numbers that have the experts apparently not the president, but have the experts worried. this is our state-by-state map right now. we have is a states trending up, reporting more new infections now than a week ago. 15 states trending up. 24 holing seddy is and 11 states going down so a mixed message, if you will, if you look at the map in terms of new infections. remember this part of the country where you see that orange. i want to go back. first let's go back to memorial day.
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we were not by no means out of the woods. some people talk about the summer surge starting on memorial day. this is 19 states trending up at that point. there was already some evidence that we were having a problem memorial day, 19 states trending up back then, 22 steady and nine going down. that is may. memorial day, the gateway to summer. fast forward to july 4th. there's your summer surge. look at it, look at it. look at 37 states going in the wrong direction, more infections on july 4th. only 12 holody steady. this is when the summer surge, boom, if full bloom and later in july and august game. memorial day gets you to july 4th, it gets you there. 45,000 any infections a day july 4th, got up above 60,000, pretty close to 70,000 at the height of the summer surge. we're now back at a plateau of 36,000 and change reported yesterday and about 40,000 new infections is where we are now. the question is can you keep shoving it down? that's what dr. fauci and the other experts say you must shove this down before the change of seasons and a holiday weekend
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raises trouble. the death trend, again, if you go back to july 4th, 265 deaths reported on that date, but death lag cases, we know that. it trickles up and essentially since the middle to the end of july that flat blue line dropping a little bit of late, but essentially 1,000 americans a day dying since middle to late july, 1,000 americans a day dying. this is what dr. fauci is worried about. he says these seven states are experiencing a surge right now in new cases and troublesome positivity data as well. again, right out here in the middle of america you can see the search states dr. fauci says must do a better job. some of them are smaller states so you don't get giant case numbers, but you are getting more and more and more and cumulatively it adds up. if you look at positivity, take a coronavirus test, what percentage come back positive? look at this, south dakota above 20 and north dakota above 20 and iowa 17% and missouri 14% and indiana just shy of 11%. these states have a problem at the moment. people ask search months in does it have to be this bad? all the experts, including out,
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including dr. sanjay gupta says no. the problem is we didn't do enough at beginning to help the patients. >> if you think -- if the united states is a human body, at the beginning when there was very localized disease, it may have required less aggressive treatment. it may have required three weeks of mask-wearing and sort of shutting things down, but now we're basically saying it's much more widespread. we didn't do the treatment we were told to do, but now we want to do a little bit of treatment and be as good as the other guys who are healthier now. well, we don't have that option at this point. >> let's get some more insights and expertise. former baltimore city health commissioner dr. leanna wen is here with us. i want to start. the president is mock is mask-wearing by his democratic rival joe biden and we know what happened after sturgis and we see what happens after wedding
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and i assume you agree with dr. fauci and dr. birx that the baseline is too high and if we let it start to surge again as we head into fall, for people indoors, a better climate for the coronavirus, if you will, were screwed again, mocking masks, is that the right approach? >> definitely not, john. we know that wearing a mask compared to not wearing one will reduce the risk of transmission by as much as five times. you mentioned that the projections by the institute of health metrix and evaluation model. they also showed that if we all wear masks between now and the end of the year, we can save 100,000 lives. that's double the number of people who died from breast cancer last year. that's what mask-wearing can do. it's a show of respect for one another and it also saves lives, and do i think it's important to mention that we're at a much worse place now than we were back the fourth of july and back during memorial day because we have much more virus in the community so we really need to do our part and prevent infections and save lives now. >> and to your point, i just
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want to show the ihme projection scenario, and you see the orange line pointing straight up. that is if we continue social distance mandate easing. right now the reference scenario, keep doing what we're doing, as you can see in the middle of the graph, hopefully we'll get it up there and the lower line in green is if we had universal mask use. that's the wrong figure, if we could get to the line. you did see that there. the green line is -- is where if everybody started wearing masks, just think about that, you don't even need to look at the numbers, look at the black line and look at green line. how many people do you want to die? all it sakes, putting on a mask, social distancing and you get there, but just this morning i heard the governor of georgia again staying statewide mask mandate not my thing. i just hope people will wear one. >> i mean, at this point if we know that there is something that can save so many lives, we would all do it. i mean, imagine if there's a vaccine that's available today that can reduce your risk of getting coronavirus by five
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times, that can save 100,000 lives by the end of the year, we would all want that so we should treat wearing masks the same way because ultimately all these models, they are projections, but these projections are based on our behaviors, on our individual behaviors and on government policy so we should be doing our best to change those behaviors now. >> and as you know, there are people out there who don't believe public health experts like yourself, who don't believe the media. they think we're ginning this up to hurt the president's re-election chances for some reason. i just want to show, go back, let's show that map from the ihme, the map we had up a couple moments ago. the red areas on this map, those are states where a smaller percentage of people are wearing sks ma. look at the middle of the country. that means a smaller percentage of people -- the darker the color, if it's orange or gold, that means fewer people are wearing masks in that place. remember that right there. those areas of the country, look at the middle. fewer people wearing masks. let's show the masks of the states that dr. fauci is warning right now, those states that are highlighted and look at the
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other ones in red around them, states with more coronavirus cases now than last week. it's just simply the dots connect. the ihme says people in those places aren't wearing masks and dr. fauci says they are the ones at risk. why is it so hard to break through, doctor? >> well, this is a virus to your point that does not care about political ideology or partisanship. this is a virus that's extremely contagious, but because of mixed messaging between our public health officials and experts everyone is confused. everyone needs to spread the message that what we do really matters and so coming into the labor day weekend please wear a mask. the please practice social distancing. just because something is open and you can go to it doesn't mean that you have to do it all. remember that we can't have everything that we want, so if we want our kids to be back in school, maybe we should be avoiding indoor crowded bars, avoiding -- avoiding these
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crowded situations that are likely to spread disease and so be outside rather than inside and wear masks. that hey lone will save a lot of lives. >> doctor, as always, grateful for your expertise and candor and we'll continue the conversation. i'm with you. we'll keep our fingers crossed across the weekend. just ahead, a new jobs report from the government. they say it's great and others look at it and say it's better, but there are still a lot of problems.
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the economy added 1.4 million jobs in ought, and the nation owes up employment rate, you see it there, back below 10% but today's jobs reports has continuing red flags about the coronavirus challenge. the august job numbers were less
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than july and the economy is still down 11 million jobs from back in february. let's discuss with mark zandi, national editor of "the cook political report, amy walter. i want to start with you. kevin hassett just left the white house, came back to be the president's economic adviser. he's left the white house now. i suspect the fact thatty he's out of the gates is why he's so candid. listen to him this morning. >> i'm saying it's way better than expected but still, as you say, there's still lots of terrible bad news, and the fact is though that if the places like washington, d.c. just stay shut, then we could expect to see a massive wave of bankruptcies. all sorts of businesses barely holding on, you know, especially restaurants and hotels and at some point they are going to decide it's not worth it anymore. >> help us, mark zandi, understand this sort of strange moment. normally 1.4 million jobs would be great moment. however, there's still a lot of warning out there. >> yeah. it's good news. i mean, we're making progress, but the progress is slow and
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it's slowing so if you go back to june. the economy created 4.8 million jobs and in july it was 1.8 million and now in august 1.4, and a couple hundred thoughts of those were temporary census jobs to take the 2020 krepsus so it's even weaker than it looks, and the trend lines don't auger well. i mean, those businesses that could reopen have reopened and going forward it's going to be much more a slog. the most disconcerting thing is we're still a long way back from normal. i mean, you mentioned 11 million jobs. we lost 22 million jobs in march and april. we've got 11 million of those back and we're only halfway back and the neck half is going to be a slog. it's going to take some time. even that is going to require some additional support from lawmakers and the administration and congress to get it together and pass more fiscal rescue -- some more support to the economy. if that doesn't happen this is going to take a long time. >> amy, that in the context of mark says it's going to take a long time. we have an election not a long
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time away. people in north carolina getting their ballots mailed to them today. some people will be voting in the days ahead, let alone the election is two months ahead. i want to show the jobs report in the pandemic graphic. more than 20 million jobs disappearing from the economy back in april, and then you do see 2.7 million added in may, 4.7 million added in june and 1.7 in july and 1.4 in august. the president wants to say this is great, and we all get political spin. that's his job, right, spin it as best as he can in his favor. the question is that used to be his calling card, the economy. can he get it back into decent shape by the time people cast their ballots? >> well, look, i think the fact that jobs are come back is good for americans and it is helpful to the president. i mean, it's much better to be coming into an election with up employment in the single digits rather than, you know, stuck in the double digits. but what we've noticed, john, throughout the entiahrt of donald trump's presidency when
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the economy was going gangbusters to where it is now is that there's a really big disconnect between perceptions of the president overall and perceptions of how he's handling the economy, and there are a lot of people who say that they think he's doing a good job on the economy even now, but say they don't plan on voting for him, and what we know, and we've been seeing this trend going for some time now, didn't start with donald trump, but it certainly exploded under him is that voters' connection to the economy is, as a voting tool, is connected also to their partisanship, so if you're a republican, each if things are going bad for you personally, you think the economy is going well because you like the person in the white house. if you're a democrat you think the economy is terrible, even if you're doing okay or you just got your job back, so that's a piece of it, but the other piece, john, i think the challenge for this president has always been that he likes to put the focus on himself instead of
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putting it on the issue. we know that he talked a lot at his convention about the fact that the economy is going to come roaring back, i'm guy that brought you a roaring economy. i can the only guy that can bring it back but he's spent the last time on kenosha and violence and talking about joe biden's america being blood in the streets. that's not going to help him win over voters who don't really like his -- like him personally or like his personality but may be feeling better about the economy. >> and to that point, mark, look, only a small group of persuadable voters out there to begin with, but what is the path for the next six, eight weeks of of this economy assuming, you know, the government doesn't shut down. washington has to deal with that and as it deals with the possibility it might just do a stop-gap continued funding effort but there's talk of another stimulus. is there anything that the president or washington more broadly can do to change things in the short term?
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president trump is angrily denying a new report that says he disparaged dead american service members as, quote, losers and, quote, suckers. during a visit to france in 2018. >> they made it up and probably it's a couple of people that have been failures in the administration that i got rid of, and i couldn't get rid of them fast enough, but -- or it was just made up. i would be willing to swear on anything that i never said that about our fallen heroes. there is nobody that respects them more. the what animal would say such a thing? >> at issue is a report from "the atlantic's" jeffrey goldberg who writes in the morning trump was scheduled to visit an american cemetery near paris where american marines are buried, a piece of the article. in a conversation on the morning
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of the schedule visit trump said, quote, why should i go to that cemetery? it's filled with losers. in a separate conversation on the same trip trump referred to more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives as, quote, suckers for getting killed. earlier today goldberg responded to the pushback from the president and several of the president's aides. >> i stand by my reporting. i have multiple sources telling me this is what happened. >> with me to discuss are cnn's diplomatic admiral rear admiral admiral di admiral kirby. i want to start on the impact of this. you served for quite some time. if you're a member of the service whether you're a private or a general, what is it like to read this report that suggests, and cnn has not been able to independently confirm this, but jeffrey goldberg called heroes suckers and losers. >> very, very disheartening,
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john. i so desperately want to believe the president's denials, but i know jeff is a great reporter, and sadly his experience in the past with gold star families and other ways that he's used the military for political purposes certainly lends credence to these claims. i hope the president's denials are true and accurate and that he didn't say these things but it's give to get there, and the thing about impact, isn't just the way it impacts those who are serving or those who have served. it's about the families of the fallen, and i don't believe the president fully understands the weight, the gravity, the severity of those kinds of sentiments and how they land on those families who are still grieving today. >> francesca, you could see and hear it in the comment's comments last night that he's angry and denying t.current and former aides, former press secretaries, former body persons, have all put out statements they have been around the president. this did not happen. they never talks like this. missing from it as a reporter is one of these conversations was
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allegedly with former marine general, then white house chief of staff john kelly, who has now left the white house and had a falling out with the president. general dunford is referenced in this statement as well. we've not seen a statement from either of those two generals, both american heroes. that leaves me curious. >> and they are two of the few people who could really clear this up by saying it either did happen or it didn't happen in an on-the-record statement and the problem with former and current white house officials who issued statements about these is some of the current ones either weren't there when this -- when this reporting says that this happened or they are still on the payroll for the president. hogan giddily, who is on the campaign now, also issued a statement for this, but, again a campaign staffer, and that makes it very challenging as a reporter when you're trying to enlist statements from people who are either close to the president still or currently or
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formally being paid by him. >> and add miller, you mentioned there are times -- if this president had stronger credibility, if you will, if he did not have a history of saying things that were not true, we might be reluctant, even geffen jeffrey goldaber egstellar history as a report we might be reluctant to tell this story when the president flat out denies it but we know he says things not true. i want you to listen here. he was on this trip to france, and at the time they said he could not go to this other cemetery because of weather issues. they didn't want to fly the helicopter because of rain and other issues. listen to the president last night, his view of what happened. >> they said you can't do it. so i said i want to do it. they said you can't. there was no way i would have been able to do it, and they would never have been able to get the police and everybody else in line to have a president go through a very crowded, very congested area, so i went and i called home. i spoke to my wife.
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i said i hate this. i came here to go to that ceremony and to the one that was the following day which i did go to. i said i feel terribly, and that was the end of it. >> it sounds very persuasive when you listen to the president of the united states. i want to read some of his words. i went and i called home. i spoke to my wife and i said i hate this. his wife, the first lady of the united states melania trump was on the trip. she was not at home. she was with him in france. she was supposed to go with home to that cemetery, so when the president says things, john, that are frankly not true, i should say admiral, that's, again, when you say something is up here. >> yeah, his story is very difficult to believe, not just based on prior lies that he has made about other things but simply the voracity of it. look, if a commander in chief wants to go visit a cemetery for american war dead, there -- they are going to make that happen, however -- however it has to be, whether it's air or car. there's a way to make that happen and other presidents have done it in difficult times as well, but it's not just the lack
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of veracity in his word, john. it's the way that he's treated the military and gold star families since he's become president, the derision and disrespect, willingly using them for political purposes and then the way he's treated gold star families, the caan family and others with total almost contempt. that's what makes this so difficult to believe in terms of his denials. >> admiral kirby, francesca chambers, appreciate it very much. we'll continue to cover the story. the president said it didn't happen. it would be really nice if we did here from general kelly or general dunford. they could clear it up in a nano second. the suspect accused of killing a right wing activist in portland has been shot and killed by police. what he said in an interview that aired shortly before that encounter. reflexes are key. you know your kid doesn't step around puddles. and wet shoes, not cool. you know what else isn't cool? those cheap leaky diapers.
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a man wanted for a fatal shooting during a port lapd, oregon, protest is now himself dead, a suspect killed by police as they tried to arrest him in washington state. cnn's lucy kavanov is there at the scene. >> 48-year-old michael reinoehl
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was wanted for the shooting of aaron danielson. an warren for his arrest was issued on thursday because he was located in washington across state lines and they sent a fugitive task force to try to a helped him. they tried to do this peacefully when this incident took place. now, we just got a new statement from the thurston county sheriff's office leading the investigation. they said reinoehl tried to flee from officers from the apartment building behind me actually. they say, and i'm going to quote from the statement during the attempt to a helped him, shots were fired at the suspect in the vehicle, and he fled from the police on foot. the sheriff's office adds that additional shots were fired at the suspect, and he was later pronounced dead at the scene. now, the timing of this is a little bit unusual because as this arrest warrant was issued, as this team moved in to apprehend him, vice news aired an interview with reinoehl where he appeared to take responsibility for the shooting of danielson. he said that he did this in
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self-defense because he and a friend were about to get stabbed. take a listen. >> i had no choice. i mean, i had a choice, i could have sat there and watched him kill a friend of mine of color but i wasn't going to do that. you know, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. lots of lawyers suggest that i shouldn't even be saying anything, but i feel it's important that the world at least gets a little bit of what's really going on because there's been a lot of propaganda put out there. >> you feel that it was totally justified? >> totally justified. had i not acted, i am confident that my friend and i'm sure i would have been killed because i wasn't going to stand there and let something happen. >> reporter: now in that same interview reinoehl said he went down to downturn portland to work, quote, as security after seeing the caravan of hundreds of president trump supporters roll through the streets of downtown. he says he is 100% anti-fascist
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but denies being a formal member of any such group of the big concern now, john, is how folks are going to react to this this. you have heightened tensions in portland, heightened emotions on both sides, both the far right and far left. saturday marks the 100th day of protests in the wake of the killing of george floyd. we've seen people on the streets nightly. a lot of concern that this could lead to more tensions. john? >> that's a very warranted concern. grateful to have the leave reporting on the seen of this latest dram ashe. thanks so much. how an aspirg american writer was unwittingly lured nod a russian plot. when it's hot outside your car is like a sauna
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you are. it seemed like a miracle or at least a peeves extraordinary good luck, an offer to write for a new online publication not long after losing his job because of the coronavirus. aspiring writer jack delaney jumped at the opportunity not knowing he was being used, by arding could the fbi, in a new russia propaganda operation aimed at interfering in the 2020 election. cnn business reporter donny o'sullivan is here with the details. it's literally like feels like a spy novel. >> hey, john, yeah, that's right, it does. jack delaney was over the moon when he heard from an editor what looked like an independent and legitimate left wing news website but all was not what it appeared to be. have a listen. >> the message was, you know, saying, hey, we like your work. we've seen your work before. would you like to write for us? would you like to be a part of our publication? we can offer you about 200, 250 per article, and at that time i
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was like, sound like a food opportunity for me. i can make money, get my work published. >> must be quite surreal to hear about this and say, oh, my god, i'm -- am i part of a russian disinformation campaign? >> yeah. totally surreal. i was completely unwittingly doing it. i had no idea they were linked to the kremlin or anything. you know, obviously if i had known, wouldn't have done that, but, you know, i mean, it seemed like -- it seemed legitimate from what i saw. i'm obviously no fan of putin or russian government, so it's -- it was concerning. obviously, you know, i -- i don't want to have any association with an authoritarian regime so it was -- it was -- i can't put it in any other words like it was one of the strangest experiences of my life. >> and you might wonder, john, you know, why would russia go to
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the trouble of doing this. it's about adding fuel to the fire and inflaming existing divisions here in the united states, using real unwitting americans to make it seem all the more credible. this particular website, it was a left wing website, and it was use the sort of tactics that we saw the russian troll group use in 2016 which was essentially trying to split the democratic vote, attacking joe biden, kamala harris from the left, accusing them being basically too conservative to be democrats. for its part the people behind this website posted an anonymous post after facebook and the fbi revealed this earlier this week denying that they were russian trolls. the russian government has not yet responded to this, but, john, as we know from u.s. intelligence officials here in washington, russia is trying to interfere in this year's election and they are using social media to do it, and this is just one of the examples of the tactics that they are using. >> as always, grateful for the
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reporting. very important that we keep reminding people of what's happening out there, and facebook says it's working harder this election cycle to identify foreign actors and remove or flag misleading information. the ceo mark zuckerberg says the social media giant now also working to stop the spread of misinformation about the voting process and the integrity of that process because with a surge in mail-in voting it could take several days to fully count ballots. >> there is, unfortunately, i think a heightened risk of civil unrest in the period, you know, between -- between voting and a result being called or after that, and i just think that we need to be doing everything that we can to reduce the chances of violence or civil unrest in the wake of this election. >> still, there are many critics who say facebook simply isn't doing enough. joining us now is nick kleg, the vice president of global affairs and communications at facebook. grateful for your time. let me pick up where donny
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o'sullivan was talking about first about this tip from the fbi about this russian group that was pretending to be a left wing media site essentially. can you talk to me about, without, you know, taking us too far behind the curtain, i know there's sensitive intelligence matters involved, is there communication and other law enforcement officials about foreign interference, is it far superior now than it was four years ago? >> it's transformed out of all recognition. 2016, facebook didn't remove a single foreign network seeking to interfere in elections, both in the u.s. and elsewhere. over the last two to three years we've removed about 100, about 12 of those related to russian organizations, including the ira, the up involved that was in donny's piece earlier, and we -- i think the -- the thing that is really equally transformative is that we work hand in glove with other -- with other tech companies in the same sector so
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we share intelligence, we share data, and so -- because, you know, almost always these kinds of interfeerps network don't play out on being foo. they play out on twitter as well so the level of cooperation across the industry, the scale of things that we're blocking and just to give you an example of how we're getting better and better at getting these and identifying and removing these networks earlier. i think in the case of the network that was just described in your piece, the edgish-speaking page i think had only about 200 followers so it had almost no meaningful impact whatsoever because we were able to get at it early, but it doesn't mean, that you know, we're complacent, and it doesn't mean that there aren't attempts being made that ourselves, intelligence services and other parts of the industry are not yet aware of but the level of cooperation and the. a resources going into it. facebook is a company over the last year or so that now spends, new invests billions of dollars
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into integrity security, not least to safeguard the integrity of our elections. to the amount that is now invested, and that's about slightly more that shows a shift in resources, nowitzkiment, personnel and effort to do more than happened in 2016. >> try to go through some of this. we heard mark zuckerberg talking about the fear of civil unrest. a lot of that fear is a lot of people in the town i work in washington is that the president of the united states will declare victory election night if he's leading in the vote and not counted millions of mail-in ballots f. the president of the united states, if he is the one spreading misinformation, if he says i have won the election, stop counting ballots, it is a rigged system, what will facebook do? >> so firstly, what we are going to do is top of the feed
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millions of americans will see on an almost daily basis huge amounts of very granular detail of the voter information center not only explaining the dead loons for mail-in ballots, when to fill them in and received because as you know the rules differ from state to state and county to county and seeking to accustom american voters through the voter information center in instagram, as well, to the idea that they will not take the results soon, might take weeks or and might have a significant -- >> but will you -- will you -- will you block the president? will you block the president? will you block the president? take the content down if it is wrong and misleading? >> we'll do something very specific. if donald trump or anybody prematurely declared victory we'll put a prominent label on the post, no one can miss it.
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saying that that's declaration is premature and that we will provide people with the real result, working with reuters and others that the platform is not susceptible to declaring victory without being labeled and get the result when it's fully certified. >> there's been -- a new policy announced that you can't launch a political ad in the final week of a campaign. there's not enough time to fact check it and the like but if i buy the ad ten days before the campaign it is okay. the current policy implies -- i'll call you a reform politician. you know what it's like to be on the end. nick clegg is running for office, a candidate of the working people, ten days out i buy an ad that says nick clegg is lying to you, on the take of the millionaires, shoots bunny
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rabbits, why would that not be taken down as false no matter when i buy it? >> so look. the reason we have put the guardrails in, by the way, part of a sort of bunch of ten extra measures including a tightening of voter suppression policies that will lead to more posts being taken down. we have from the president and just recently last month about a post about covid which we have taken down so we remove content -- >> forgive me for interrupting. good for facebook. the president said something that's not true. so you take down the medical information which is good but political junk can stay up. seems like a double standard. if it is not true it is not true. >> let me try to explain. we take stuff down where we think there is a very clear and
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imminent harm to people. around covid where we feel that information will lead to people being -- believing that covid is not serious or a hoax or in the case of voting if there is a clear falsehood about where, when and how to vote which will lead to people forfeiting their right to vote. what we do not e almost nate but in some cases if it is from pacs and superpacs, fact check it and label a post from donald trump just yesterday about mail-in voting. in those other cases, we don't want to eliminate. i don't think anyone wants us to, eliminate aggressive, hyper bollic debate of voting methods. it is as old as the hills in america and elsewhere. we cannot as a private company -- by the way, not a single tech company i'm aware of fact checks or vets politician speech at scale with any precision for the simple reason,
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all politicians exaggerate their own virtues and exaggerate the vices of their own opponents. and selective facts. the idea that a private company can vet everything that comes out of a politician's mouth as absolutely gospel accuracy is not something that any tech company has tried. we on the other hand have removed a huge amount of content where it poses real harm. we have 70 fact checks that check organizations and put the new guardrails in place at the very end of the campaign to not run an ad which hijacks the campaign unchablgllenged at the very last minute. >> nick clegg, appreciate your time. i hope you'll come back and give you a platform to explain it and we may kick back. it is part of the process.
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