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this labor day weekend. have a staf labor day weekend. wear your mask. stay safe. listen to dr. fauci. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news president trump claims the u.s. is rounding the corner when it comes to the deadly pandemic. an influential model now predicts the u.s. death toll could top 410,000 by the end of the year. plus angry and defensive. the president denying a report he called fallen soldiers losers and lusuckers. his defense doesn't add up. who is behind kanye west's presidential run? good evening. welcome to a special edition of "outfront." breaking news, president trump ignoring the reality of the pandemic. just moments ago suggesting that the u.s. is almost in the clear while touting a decline in
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deaths. >> by the way, we're rounding the corner. we're rounding the corner on the virus. hospitalizations and deaths have continued to decline over the past week, very substantially decline. >> we're rounding the corner. deaths have declined substantially. but just moments ago dr. anthony fauci was asked right here on cnn if he agrees that we're rounding the corner. >> what do you make of that characterization? >> you know, i'm not sure what he means. >> not sure what he means because frankly the facts just don't back up the president. deaths have not declined substantially over the past week. rough i will a thousand people have been losing their lives almost every day. and things could get worse. an influential model often cited by the white house is now predicting more than 410,000 americans could die from coronavirus by the end of the year. that is another 222,000 lives.
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it's more than double the current death toll. and experts are also warning that dahly reported deaths as you see on the screen there could hit a somber record 3,000 a day by december. so, why? why, when we are more than seven months into this pandemic, why is it potentially getting worse? why are we talking about a potential spike in deaths? well, it's because the easy things that we can all do, the social distancing, wearing masks, wash your hands, they're not happening everywhere. the president actually recommending it this afternoon, but he's not following his own advice. we showed you pictures of his rally last night, a large crowd, little social distancing, very few masks, as you can see. the president even mocking joe biden at that rally for wearing a mask. >> did you ever see a man that likes a mask as much as him? and then he makes this speech and always has this -- not always, but a lot of times has it hanging down.
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it gives him a feeling of security. if i were a sigh kpsychiatrist right -- i would say this guy's got a big issue. >> president trump's issue is putting live at risk. face coverings work. why? science. keep in mind the model that warns more than 400,000 deaths by january 1st also notes 122,000 lives could be saved if almost everyone wore a mask. it's not that hard. the president today said we're rounding the curve. he wants the virus to go away. we all want it to go away. but just acting like it's under control won't make it so. in the past, the president has criticized that model. but take a look at its track model. in march it projected -- in may they were looking at possibly 137,000. by august 155,000 lives lost in
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this country by august. in june, a projection of 180,000 deaths by october 1st. well, today is september 4th and the death toll in this country, 187,464. if anything, the estimate has been low, and if that sounds alarming, it should be. the latest prediction is 410,000 degts by the end of the year. boris sanchez is "outfront" live near the white house. the president was asked about that model. what did he say? >> reporter: yeah, erica president trump yet again suggesting that the united states is rounding the corner when it comes to coronavirus. never mind that we've heard this kind of messaging from the white house for months. in fact, the president called for certain states to reopen despite these dire prognostications. the president dismissing this model from the university of washington, suggesting that
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things could have been a lot worse in the united states, potentially over a million deaths, had he not taken action early on, and again reiterating the claim he stopped travel from certain countries and that prevented widespread death in the united states. the president did not dig into what could be done now to save lives, including things like wearing masks, which as you noted he criticized joe biden better for last night. the president claims other countries are cooking the books when it comes to their coronavirus numbers, not specifying any country. in the past he has insinuated that south korea, an ally of the united states, is, again, without evidence, fibbing with their coronavirus numbers. the president saying he doesn't want to embarrass anyone, so he didn't mention any country specifically by name. he also repeated the unscientific claim that the united states has more cases because we do more testing than other countries, something that
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doesn't take into account the rate of positive tests in the united states which, by comparison, is remarkably high. >> the cases are there whether you test or not. it's important to look at the things like the positivity. one of the big questions tonight, will more states now heed the warnings? will they mandate maxes? nick watt is "outfront." >> reporter: there is covid fatigue across the country, including pennsylvania avenue. >> we're rounding the curve. >> reporter: but the worst could still be to come. another 220,000 plus americans could be killed by this virus by january 1st, according to one well-known model which ominously has underestimated death tolls in the past. they now say 410,000 total by the end of the year. >> they also tell us that from that 410,000 number, if we were to ease our behaviors, that number goes up to nearly 620,000
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deaths. >> but if masks were mandated across the country, they say we could save more than 120,000 lives. yet the president won't mandate them. neither will georgia's governor. >> i personally don't believe a statewide mask mandate is the way to go. >> reporter: or missouri's governor. >> we implore him to listen to the health care workers in the state of missouri and order a statewide mask mandate. what would be a better name for us is the make me state. >> reporter: our immediate hurdle, the long labor day weekend, the stay safe weekend messaging targeted at the young. >> all of us thought we were invincible. you can pass this on. >> reporter: and you can get very sick. 31-year-old jenny caught covid, lost her father to the virus. >> he was in a lot of pain, and that's the face i'll never forget. >> reporter: she no longer tests positive, but still struggles to
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breathe. >> si have to walk around with n oxygen can. >> reporter: and young people clearly a big issue right now. missouri saying 30% of their positive cases are between the ages 18 to 24. up in boston, northeastern university just suspended 11 students for the rest of the semester after they apparently gathered together at a hotel room. and here on this side of the country, san diego state has just paused all in-person teaching immediately after another 120 cases confirmed. >> wow. it's almost like we've seen this movie before, nick. nick watt live in los angeles. thank you. "outfront" tonight, dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner, director of the cardiac cath lab at george washington university hospital. he advised the white house medical team under george w
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bush. we heard the president tonight say -- touting the drop in deaths. but we see then this modeling from the ihme model that says we could see 3,000 deaths a day by december. what is the reality tonight? >> well, those are sobering numbers. i mean, i woke up to that at 4:00 this morning. what a way to wake up to look at those models. you know, it's one of these things where we seem to have plateaued. as i'm sure you've heard. dr. fauci talked about it. we seem to have plateaued in the number of new infections per day, around 40,000 new infections per day and on average about 1,000 people dying per day. that seems to be, at least for the time being, the best that we can do. i think what these modelers from the university of washington, we've been following their model closely. the reason the people pay attention to it is because the white house often cites this model as well. they're saying these numbers are likely to go up.
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they say the peak mask usage was probably in early august and mask usage is now going down. kids and young adults returning to school and colleges, that's probably driving the numbers up. and then probably increased mobility later on this year as people start to go home i guess for the holidays and things like that. that is likely to drive the numbers up. so, it's sobering and it's frustrating, candidly, to believe that after all the time that we've been talking about this and the basic public health practices that can make a difference that this is still now what the model is projecting. >> it is frustrating because from the beginning i remember you showing us how to make a mask out of a bandana. we know that masks are the key here to really stopping the spread, to helping to get some of those numbers down. the president mocking masks at that rally last night. it's not the first time he's done so. he doesn't like the way he looks nay mask. today in the briefing room suggesting that people should wear a mask this weekend.
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candidly how much responsibility do you think the president bears here for those mixed messages and for not following his own advice that we heard from him tonight? >> oh, enormous responsibility. you know, i think when historians write about this time, they're going to spend a great amount of time trying to figure out why the president wouldn't embrace masks from the beginning. and i think what it's going to come down to is not some m political plan but something as simple as the president didn't like the way he looked in it, and thought masks made him look weak. something nonsensical like that. if i were the president's adviser, i would tell him to push masks. if you push masks, you'll push down the infection rate. if you push down the infection rate, you'll get what you want. but he refuses to believe that.
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it's hard to understand. >> when we look at deaths too, the president was claiming the u.s. has such a high death toll because he doesn't believe that other countries are reporting the numbers accurately. so, for the most part, as far as i know, that is for the most part not true. but we also heard from his newest adviser in the white house coronavirus task force dr. scott atlas that had this to say about deaths. take a listen. >> the only really legitimate way to compare countries if you want to get down to it is something that most epidemiologists understand. and that is something called access mortality. what that means is comparing deaths this year and during the pandemic compared to your baseline, your country's baseline. and the facts are the following. europe has done 38% worse than the united states in excess or talty. nobody talks about this. >> the u.s. has the fourth highest number of deaths per
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100,000 people. sanjay, he said that data is simply wrong. i mean, i know you look at that data multiple times a day. is the data wrong? >> no, the data is not wrong. 'm not sure what epidemiologist earlier and i talked to a few epidemiologists trying to understand. excess deaths are a measure used to see how a nation is doing compared to how that same nation was doing last year. so, the united states, for example, there's about roughly 200,000 excess deaths so far this year as compared to last year. so, obviously, very similar population in this country last year as compared to this year. mostly due to covid. you can see the graph here. if he wants to compare the united states and the european union, there it is. first of all, this pandemic hit the united states a little later than the european union. and then you can see that
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dramatic drop off in the european union. we had a bit of a drop off. but then we plateaued and started to go back up. that's the fact. i'm not sure really what the point was that dr. atlas was driving at. leave aside europe. there's plenty of other countries that we could compare ourselves to. and this idea that, you know, possibly abdicating for herd immunity. he talks about this a lot, says he doesn't abdicate for it. he talks about letting the infection go through the community. that's a terrible idea. al manies of people would die, hospitals would be overwhelmed and it wouldn't work. it would take years to get to herd immunity and the immunity you would get from the infection would wear off by that time. i'm just not sure where this is coming from and i worry because he's on the task force now. those kind of statements keep taking us backwards. >> i think in terms of going backward, we heard from the president that a shutdown is often worse than the virus.
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a lot of people understand why he says that. and shutdowns absolutely have in many areas a devastating impact. but dr. reiner, saying that a shutdown is worse than the virus, if we don't use some form of mitigation, the virus is never going to go away. can we really say a shutdown is worse than the virus? >> no. the shutdown has been devastating to the economy, but the u.s. economy will come back. there's no question about that. what won't come back are the almost 200,000 americans who are buried now. you know, the president has never watched somebody die alone in an icu room because families aren't allowed during the pandemic. but i have. the president hasn't gone to work worrying that he's going to contract the virus that day at work and bring it home to his family. but all health care workers
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have. many people that go to work every day in the united states have that same fear. the declaration of independence lists the unalienable rights that the government is supposed to protect. and the first one that is listed is life. life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. that's his job. his job is to protect life. that should be his primary focus now. his primary focus is getting reelected. to get reelected, he needs to boost the economy. he needs to focus on life first and the economy will come back. the surest way to resuscitate the economy is to put the virus down. >> dr. reiner, dr. gupta, thank you. >> can i add as well, after the 1918 flu pandemic, what happened after that? the roaring '20s. it did come back. the economy will come back. you've just got to make sure you don't let unnecessary deaths occur in the meantime. >> a little pain now can save a lot of pain later on as we know. thank you both. "outfront" next, a russian vaccine is showing promising
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results according to a renowned medical journal. so, just how encouraged should we be? trump on the defense of attacking a damning report that he made disparaging remarks about service member who is have been wounded or killed in action. new details. plus the investigation into the death of a black man after police covered his head, pinned him to the ground. why did some city officials only learn about the case when the video was released months after his death? when the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. with fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management.
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new tonight, president trump telling americans a coronavirus vaccine could be ready by october. this just hours after joe biden predicted the president may announce one will be available just around election day so he could hype it. >> we remain on track to deliver a vaccine before or maybe before november 1st. we think we could have it sometime during the month of october. we have some really great companies. they're all doing very well. they're all in final stages. and i think you're going to see results that are shockingly goods. >> there are encouraging results from russia's vaccine. matthew chance is "outfront." >> reporter: in russia, the battle against covid-19, it seems, is being fought with real soldiers. this is the country's defense minister getting a vaccine. on state tv, moscow's mayor
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tells the russian president he's just been vaccinated too. the temperature rise a concerned president putin asks. no, says the mayor, just a slight headache and a little fatigue. intended message, russia's vaccine called sputnik-v is save. even stop officials trust it. the kremlin won't confirm whether putin himself has taken the plunge. there's some reason for russia's confidence. first data from phase one and two clinical trials published in the lance et medical journal suggests the russian vaccine produces no adverse side effects. it seems to be safe in other words. and it generated an antibody response, according to "the lancet." russian scientists say that's more than enough to prove their
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vaccine works and works well. >> the high level of cell immunity suggests there are great prospects for developing memory cells. this tells us it will not just create high protective levels at the moment of immunization but that the impact will last a very long time. >> russia has been one of the world's worst affected countries in the covid-19 pandemic, cording more than a million cases nationwide. it also has a track record of creating vaccines famously against polio in the 1950s, more recently in 2016 to battle the outbreak of ebola in west africa. but there's been a cautious reception to russia's covid-19 vaccine. lack of published data, until now, and approval for use before human trials were complete raise concerns about its safety and effectiveness. even now with phase one and two
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trials published, "the lancet" warns the studies are too small and larger phase three trials are needed to know how useful the vaccine will really be. so, erica, does the world have a new covid-19 vaccine? well, the russians would like to think the answer to that is yes, but the scientific consensus outside of russia appears to be of the view that, you know, while this russian vaccine is encouraging, it's far too premature to call it a success. back to you. >> we'll keep watching. matthew chance, thank you. "outfront" now, dr. ashish jha, director of the global health institute. dr. jha, as we look at this, it's natural for us to take this news out of russia with a grain of salt and even the cautions and the notes that we saw there in "the lancet." all of that considered, including the size of the study, what is your take away? how encouraged should we be? >> yeah, so thank you for having
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me on. i looked at the study. i looked at the data. and it's good. it basically says that the vaccine the russians have developed looks like it generates an immune response. and in the short run in a small sample it doesn't seem to have much in the way of negative side effects or nothing major. this is not an advancement over what we knew from the moderna vaccine, the oxford vaccine. if you think about it as a consumer, as a patient, what a citizen, what you care about is the vaccine going to protect me from the infection? is it going to protect me from getting sick? and it going to be safe for me and my family? nothing in this study answers those questions yet. we still need answers to those questions. >> we heard from moderna that they are trying to ramp up recruitment so they have a diverse group of folks who are enrolled in their vaccine trials. just to give people a sense, 68% of the volunteers are white,
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just 7% are black. they say they'll even slow things down if they need to make sure they have a better representation. just remind us again why that's so important. >> yeah, it is critically important for several reasons. first of all, there's a long history of inappropriate, immoral, unethical experimentation on african-americans in our country. and so i can understand why a lot of black americans may be hesitant to enroll in such a trial. the reason you need a representative sample is you want to know is it going to work across a broad swath of the population. imagine we only tested in young healthy white people. we would have no idea what the impact would be on everybody else. it is important we get the studies right even if it takes a few extra weeks. >> you mentioned the long history, these medical experiments. dr. fauci was also noting what had been done to african-americans in this country. and the understandable distrust
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that can come along with that history. and i know that's a concern to overcoming that once there is a vaccine to get the message out there to that this is safe and effective once we have one. how concerned are you about finding that trust again? >> yeah, it's critically important. so, let's say that moderna and others do a good job, that they have a representative sample, they have a nice large sample, we have confidence in the data. you're still going to go out and convince people that it's safe and effective. they're going to want to vaccinate their kids or elderly parents or themselves. given the mistrust and i think justifiable mistrust in the african-american community of the medical system, i think we're going to have to work really hard. we're going to have to find sources. i think we can get there but it's not going to easy. >> the fda rejected the dietary
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supplement the ceo of my pillow was touting as a therapeutic for coronavirus. >> i was pleased to see it. i think the fda is acting based on the best scientific evidence we have. we've got to keep seeing the fda act in that way. that's what the american people need. >> dr. ashish jha, always appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. "outfront" next, president trump denying a report he called wounded and dead u.s. service members losers and suckers. >> it's a hoax, just like the fake dossier was a hoax. >> plus rochester officials admit to withholding information about a black man who died after being pinned to the ground. why? when the world gets complicated,
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. breaking news, president trump moments ago denying a report in "the atlantic" that he disparaged fallen service members and chose to skip a ceremony during an overseas trip in 2018. according to the report, the president called the soldiers losers and suckers.
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the president responding with a familiar refrain. >> it's just a continuation of the witch hunt so that it can hopefully affect the election. these people have gone after me more than any president in the united states in history. >> well, mr. trump and the white house pushed back on the reporting. multiple outlets have confirmed details and comments in that report. "outfront" now, former secretary of defense under president obama. he is supporting joe biden's presidential campaign. sir, good to have you with us. as we take in these comments, you served in the army. you led the u.s. military of course as defense secretary. i'm just curious off the top, what is your reaction to these alleged comments from the president about fallen service members? >> well, to have the commander in chief say anything like that, that these are suckers and losers, our men and women in
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uniform who put their lives on the line and fought and died for this country, is a disgrace. it's a disgrace. and i know he will deny it. but the fact is plus it's right out of his playbook. he called john mccain, a war hero, a loser. he's called george bush, president george bush, whose plane went down in world war ii, he called him a loser. and he's been quoted as having called the chairman and the joint chiefs a bunch of babies after a briefing in the tank after the defense department. so, time and time again, he's used those kinds of words to basically abuse the very people who do fight and die and serve for our country. >> you brought up john mccain. and he did -- he was asked
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specifically today if he regretted some of his comments about john mccain saying he wasn't a hero. the president said he likes heroes who don't get captured. this was his response. >> i say what i say and i never got along with john mccain. i disagree with john mccain. you know that better than anyone, frankly. i wasn't a fan. >> in some ways it's not surprising but also interesting to hear him say, this is what i say, this is who i am. that response, based on what you just laid out, past comments from the president, it's fascinating to hear him in some ways say that quiet part out loud tonight. >> yeah, look. i think president trump is very transparent. you know? he basically said, you know, i didn't like john mccain. john mccain questioned some of my positions, so therefore he's
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not a war hero. therefore he's a loser. the fact is that john mccain is a war hero, put his life on the line for this country. and, you fauknow, just because president may not agree with what john mccain says is no reason to demean the individual. and that's what disturbs me about this president is that he can't accept the fact that you might disagree with somebody and still respect that person. he has got to demean them in some way and try to tear them down. and that just shows, frankly, that the character of the man we have in the presidency. >> the article also describes the president visiting arlington cemetery on memorial day, 2017, there with john kelly who at the time was marine secretary. they were visiting the buried
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including john kelly's son. trump his father and said, i don't get it. what was in it for them? john kelly has responded to this. the president was asked about it a short time ago. this was his response. >> i know john kelly. he was with me. didn't do a good job. had had no temperament. ultimately he was petered out. he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he wasn't even able to function in the last number of months. >> he's not answering the question. he moves immediately to disparaging john kelly. i'm curious the fact we haven't heard from john kelly as we're watching all of this play out. and that moment, to begin to imagine a father standing there next to the grave of his son, who made the ultimate sacrifice, what is your message, with all of this that's coming out, especially if you were still secretary of defense? what would your message be to those men and women in uniform
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right now? >> my message to them is be proud of serving our country in uniform. and i couldn't be prouder of the men and women who do serve this country and are willing to go to the battlefields of this country and put their lives on the line in order to protect this country. we depend on them to protect our country. we depend on them because they have the courage to put their lives on the line. when the president asks john kelly -- and i know john kelly. he's a great guy, a great marine, serves the country with distinction. he's somebody who's a stand up person. and i resent the fact that the president winds up demeaning him as well today. because the bottom line is his son, john kelly's son, did die and he's buried in articlington.
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and i've been there with john kelly. and i paid tribute to his son for the sacrifice that he made for this country. i didn't ask the question, what was in it for him, which is what the president is quoted as asking. what is in it -- what was in it for them? as if to say that service to country, love of country, is somehow not enough, when it really is. that's why we are proud of our men and women in uniform because service to country and love of country comes first. >> secretary, i appreciate you taking the time to join us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. also with us, maggie haberman, white house correspondent for the "new york times." you have some reporting and other comments that the president has made in private, specifically his take on those who served in vietnam. but it's fascinating the private
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comments that are coming out versus what the president wants his public persona to be when it comes to where he believes he does stand and should stand for the men and women in this country who have chosen to serve. and there's a big difference between the two. >> erin, that's right, look, at the end of the day, the president is well aware that he needs the support of the members of the military in his re-election effort. so, he has repeatedly tried to portray himself as allied with the military. he says falsely that the military was depleted when he arrived and he rebuilt it. it's true he focused on aspects of funding. but he has been disparaging of john mccain who he had a fight with a land use and loans back to 1996. he questioned why anyone would serve in vietnam.
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he suggested people were too dumb to get out of it. he himself didn't go claiming bone spurs. i think you've seen this over a long period of time, people who have been over him not just the last couple of years but over a lengthy stretch, have heard him say things like this. i think this the thrust of the "atlantic" article is he cannot imagine anything that is not a transaction. he cannot imagine anything where you don't get monetary or celebrity or some other tangible benefit. >> that it could be for someone else. vice president biden seizing on all of this. i want to play quickly some of what he had to say today. >> duty, honor, country. these are values that drive our service members. president trump has demonstrated he has no sense of service, no loyalty to any cause other than himself. >> maggie, how concerned tonight, do you think the
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campaign is about the president's standing with both veterans and those who are currently serving? >> erica, they're worried. this is something that i've been talking to people about throughout the day. they knew that this was something they had to push back on. this was something, unlike a lot of what has happened in this campaign amid an economic crisis and the coronavirus, not much is punched through the voters, who not a huge segment of them who are undecided, but voters who are undecided might pay attention to. the campaign knows this is something that could. the president's advisers know they don't have a lot of capital with senior military figures to call on to ask them to come and defend him. they worry also this is the beginning of a slow drip of people speaking out. remember there are a couple of major moments yet to come. one is going to come out in a week and a half. that could contain more revelations just like this. >> maggie, appreciate it, thank you. growing questions about the
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tonight, growing questions about why the video showing the arrest was not revealed until this week despite the incident taking place back in march. prude died of suffocation after the police officers placed a spit sock, a type of bag, over his head and pinned him to the ground. city officials say they didn't publicly share information about prude's arrest because the new york attorney general's office had asked them not to do so. but the a.g.'s office says that's not the case. "outfront" mr. light foot. you say you didn't learn the details of the case until the video was released. why do you think it took so long for you and the public to find out about this? who dropped the ball? >> first of all, thank you for having me on your show. i just want to say that my condolences and my heart felt
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prayers goes to the prude family first and foremost. this was a devastating blow that was dealt to our city, a traumatic blow, that has been dealt to our city. and we're trying to unpack it as we speak. we found out about this on wednesday -- counsel found out about this on wednesday, and i immediately called for a briefing from the mayor and the administration to brief counsel on what transpired. as we were told, that information was given to the mayor by the police chief and corporate counsel, city's corporate counsel, advised her not to speak to the matter to counsel. so, that was what we were told in our briefing. of course a lot of our counselors, including myself, were highly upset, very upset about this going on in our city. >> did you address that with the mayor, that you were upset not only that it was happening, but
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you were upset it was withheld. >> not only did we address it. we sent a letter from all council members to attorney general james making request for her to address the community, put additional resources and investigators to expedite the investigation and to clarify the opinion of legal counsel that city could not share more broadly. then we drafted a letter to the mayor and hand delivered it to the mayor from counsel asking all officers be put on administrative leave immediately, that charges against the protesters arrested the day before be dropped, and that the city put additional funds utilize bid the current city and county. >> really quickly because i want to get to one other question. are you satisfied with the response you've had thus far? >> i am not. you know, but we still have
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another tour. city counsel can subpoena. we have a council member who sent a letter to look at us having a discussion to use subpoena power and figuring out who, what, when, and how. >> last night i spoke to >> there is video footage of these people suffocating my father. my father was murdered by these police officers. there is no reason to be on a paid suspension. they should be arrested and they should be tried as the killers that they are. they are murders and it's no other way to put this. i feel like this is a slap in the face to us, and that's a slap on the wrist to these officers. they're getting away with murder as we speak. >> do you agree? should these officers be charged
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with murder? >> abs loot olutely. other heads should be fired. >> who? >> and i believe you have to look at people, you know, like corporate counsel, the police chief. you have to look at individuals that knew about this and did not share this as vice president of city counsel. >> are you saying the mayor should step down? >> from reporters, public reports that she made, she was given misinformation and advice from corporate counsel. based on advice from those reports, my opinion is those officers should be fired and should look at more of our policy practice and procedure around community policing. >> sir, appreciate you joining us tonight. we'll continue to follow the story. thank you. >> thank you. "out front" next kanye west doesn't have a shot at being the next president but could have an
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tonight, the reality kanye west doesn't have a chance to be president but could play a role who could winar sar a murray is "outfront". >> reporter: the rap super star only made the ballot in 11 states missing so many others he can't math mwin mathematically. betting his campaign will skim off support from joe biden and boost president trump's chances of getting reelected. >> unfortunately, i think it's a ploy republicans are using kanye to diminish joe biden's votes. >> reporter: critics like kr quinton james says efforts to property up west are shameless in light of west's diagnosis with bipolar disorder marked with swings with mania and depression. west does not take medication
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for it. >> it's really sad and, you know, we wish kanye the best of getting his mental health under control but again, this is not what we want to see in politics. >> i'm not running for president. i'm walking. >> reporter: still, republicans are turning up to help west. one source tells cnn gop operatives believed they had the trump campaign's blessing. gop lawyer who is also doing legal work for the trump campaign dropped off signatures for west's attempt to get on the ballot in wisconsin. mark jabcobe an executive at let the voters decide is letting west collect signatures. he pleaded guilty to voter registration fraud for his work for the california republican party. a representative for the company said any focus on his record has nothing to do with any political campaign and is misplaced and irresponsible. >> hello american conservatives. >> reporter: half a dozen gop operatives say at the heart of the effort is greg keller, a republican and former executive director at the american
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conservative union. them and half a dozen others did not respond to request for comment. while west has pulled around 2% with registered voters, any third party candidate can pose a risk in a tight race. >> west will not garner enough votes to become president but determine the outcome of this election. >> reporter: the president in his campaign insists they have nothing to do with west's efforts. >> i like kanye very much. i have nothing to do with him getting on the ballot. >> reporter: west did not respond to requests for comments. >> they say they are paying you to do what you're doing to be a distraction. >> can't nobody pay me. >> you got more money than trump. >> i got more money than trump. >> reporter: as west set off controversy after controversy in recent years including supporting trump. >> i love this guy here. let me give this guy a hug right here. i love this guy right here. >> come here. that's so nice.
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that's from the heart. i didn't want to put you in that position. that's from the heart. special guy. >> reporter: he's also been open about his bipolar disorder in interviews and his music. "frightening, sometimes i square scare myself, myself". >> we are trappedcare myself, myself". >> we are trapped. >> reporter: west broke into tears talking about abortion and his relationship with his family after his wife kim kardashian west asked for compassion writing we as a society talk about giving grace to the issue of mental health as a whole. however, we should also give it to the individuals who are living with it in times when they need it the most. now while the west campaign got good news they will be on the ballot in kentucky, they got a double whammy earlier this week when they were blocked from the ballot in virginia, as well as arizona.
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back to you, erica. >> thank you. thanks to all of you for joining us tonight. ""ac 360" starts right noac 360. good evening to you. jim sciutto sitting in for anderson. the president of the united states would never attack a member of our military attacks an honored member of our military a dedicated form erma rein general also a gold star father. that is he lost his son in combat. let's begin with what trump is reported by several outlets now to have said about the young men and women that served this country and sometimes die defending it. he's reported to have called them suckers and losers. suckers for serving, losers for dying. this evening mr. trump answered questions about the reporting on this, first reported by jeffrey goldberg in the atlantic and later by other outlets including fox news. this is from goldberg's account of the president's cancelled 2018 visit to a french