ballot in virginia, as well as arizona. back to you, erica. >> thank you. thanks to all of you for joining us tonight. ""ac 360" starts right noac 360. good evening to you. jim sciutto sitting in for anderson. the president of the united states would never attack a member of our military attacks an honored member of our military a dedicated form erma rein general also a gold star father. that is he lost his son in combat. let's begin with what trump is reported by several outlets now to have said about the young men and women that served this country and sometimes die defending it. he's reported to have called them suckers and losers. suckers for serving, losers for dying. this evening mr. trump answered questions about the reporting on this, first reported by jeffrey goldberg in the atlantic and later by other outlets including fox news. this is from goldberg's account of the president's cancelled 2018 visit to a french cemetery

where hundreds of marines killed in the first world war are now buried a revered place for u.s. marines. he writes quote, trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain and because he did not believe important to honor american war dead according to four people goldberg says with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. goldberg for the atlantic continues quote, in a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, trump said why should i go to the cemetery? it's filled with losers. in a separate conversation on the same trip, trump referred to the more than 1800 marines who lost their lives at belleau wood as suckers for getting killed and then the hs secretary and retired general john kelly i mentioned earlier and as i said, general kelly's son robert is

buried there. reading from goldberg's account, trump while standing by robert kelly's grave turned directly to his father and said i don't get it. what was in it for them? goldberg also reported siting three sources that when senator john mccain died, he said quote, we're not going to support that loser's funeral. the president last night tweeted that he never called the late senator a loser. really? keeping them honest, watch the tape. >> i supported him. he lost. he let us down. he lost. so i never liked him as much after that because i don't like losers but frank, frank, let me get to it. he hit me -- he's not a war hero. >> he's a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured, okay? >> it was five years in a vietnamese prison and let others be released before him but he was offered the chance. that's john mccain. not a war hero, a willoser.

again, he denied it last night. today he did not. >> i say what i say and i never got along with john mccain. i disagreed with john mccain. you know that better than anybody frankly. i wasn't a fan. >> as for john kelly, well, as he denied allegations that he showed contempt for the troops, the president took an opportunity to show quite publicly and for the cameras deliberate contempt for kelly. >> didn't do a good job. had no temperament and ultimately petered out. he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he wasn't even able to function in the last number of months. he was not able to function. he was sort of a tough guy by the time he got eaten up in this world, it's a different world than he was used to, he was unable to function. >> as for the atlantic story itself, the president called it a hoax. he called the atlantic a second

rate magazine and a third rate magazine and took verbal swipes at joe biden himself the father of a son who served or as the president apparently would put it father of a sucker. >> if it true, based on all the things he said, i believe the article is true, i'd ask you-all the retorque evhetorical questi you feel? how would you feel if you had a kid in afghanistan right now? how would you feel if you lost a son, daughter, husband, wife? how would you feel, for real? i probably -- i've just never been as disappointed in my whole career with a leader that i've worked with, president or otherwise if the article is true

and appears to be based on other things he said, it is absolutely a disgrace. >> kaitlan collins is at the white house with more. you've seen it. i've seen it. this white house denied a host of stories that have proven to be true. tell us how the white house is handling this controversy and how the president is handling it. >> what we saw yesterday is how angry the president was over this, that you've never really seen the white house mobilize that quickly to deny a story in the fashion we seen play out over the last 24 hours where they got current and former officials to come forward and dispute the story even come nating with the first lady saying she believed this story was activism, not journalism in a tweet she posted to her account. you can see the effort to deny it. of course, what is notable when you look at that, jim, the people who couldn't deny it who are pretty credible when it comes to president in the

military have not said anything and john kelly is one of those. the former defense secretary jim mattis, joe dun ford. there are several notable figures who have been silent over the last 24 hours and i think that could really do a lot to change the trajectory of this story. >> you covered this white house while john kelly was serving as chief of staff. i see the kind of person who at this point might take this moment to challenge the president here. >> that's a big question that a lot of people are wondering. i don't think the president did himself a service in the briefing earlier to keep john kelly from coming forward and confirming the detail it is of the story if he could. of course, he hasn't weighed in either way so we're not sure what he would say. you saw the president going after him and the president and john kelly certainly had their bad moments when he was chief of staff. we reported at one point right before john kelly was removed as chief of staff they were not even on speaking terms but the way the president spoke about him earlier basically saying he was incompetent and couldn't live to the pressure of the west

wing is notable when you consider what john kelly has done. he is a retired four-star marine general. he has a son who has you noted died in afghanistan. he's been through a lot is my point. the way the president spoke about him, it is kind of hard to see how that would not garner a response from john kelly. >> we'll be watching. kaitlan collins, thanks very much. joining us, retired army major general paul eaten whose video after the story broke has more than 3 million views and counting. on twitter we should point out he's a member of vote vets and said he's voting for joe biden and with us tonight, alex horden who reported and added to the story in the washington post and served himself in iraq as an infantry man. i want to ask you, military services are generational service in your family. you've read this story but also seen the president's comments about the military and other veterans through the year.

john mccain among them but not isolated to john mccain. in your view and your experience, are these comments in character for this president in terms of how he views the military? >> jim, alex, great to be with you. thank you very much. we've had a steady diet of almost four years of disrespect to everybody in thought, word and deed. this president doesn't understand the nature of respect. he's a transactional guy and i'll do this for that. and you cannot lead if you do not inside bear a come pleplete respect for your speers left an right. we're done here. this guy has to go. >> alex, you not only confirm many details from the atlantic's story but also able to add to it, get more information about

what the president had said. tell us what other details you uncovered. >> thanks for having me, jim. there are a few more details we're able to confirm that were in line with what the atlantic reported. one of which was the president was sort of baffled and confused that so much effort is put into finding pows and soldiers missing in action. of course, that is a better lack of the military principle of leaving behind. that was one of them where he considered them, you know, someone who messed up on the job or got into it on their own. mistakes and therefore why put in that much effort. and, you know, one of the other things that we learned that he found rank to be impressive among the generals and the staff in his cabinet but he was kind of curious why they chose that line of work, if they were smart and bright and worked together as a team, why didn't they go into business and make a lot of

money? that's a few of the things that were sort of in line with what jeffrey said before. >> listen, the comments about dismissing folks who may be shot down in combat are similar to his publicly expressed views about john mccain saying he's a war hero because he got captured. again, the president's view. general eaten, you maintained close ties i'm sure with many of your former service members. i'm not asking you to be a pollster here. i'm asking if in your experience, the views of this president have changed over four years because it's traditionally viewed as a base of support for him, the u.s. military. have you sensed a change in the in the view of this president among service members? >> jim, just before i get to that, i'd like to point out my own father was missing in action and in joint task force full accounting was the agency that did not leave my father behind. this is a great country for that

it is a great country that delivers young men and women who actually will trust the chain of command because they know that they're not going to be left behind. >> yeah. >> now to the developing stories that we've got right now, military times did a survey that found over 60% of the officer core is -- has shifted and is now in the camp to vote for vice president biden. so the shift is in place. it's moving quickly and the story that we're talking about right now is playing very badly in my peer group. >> alex, many of president trump's lawyers said they defended the president saying this didn't happen. we haven't heard from john kelly. i wonder, listen, you and i have done stories on sensitive information where folks will share that information based on you maintaining us, maintaining their anonymity.

with john kelly being attacked today, do you see someone like him coming out and saying no, this is what happened? >> you know, it's certainly possible. i think one thing we learned about the trump administration and the people in it is the senior administration officials, a lot of people are willing to air grievances and frustrations but not willing to go on the record because these are why i continue to work in the administration or have another job. particularly around, you know, career military folks, this is something about honor, integrity, not sticking your neck out too much i think a lot of generals like john kelly and john mattis, they hold on to sometimes perhaps to the public's dentmetriment of fully understanding the president in an election year. there isn't really -- his k0789k0789 comments about kelly today were surprising and quite shocking but, you know, john kelly really

hasn't come out full force yet and others haven't either. >> i mean, we've seen some hesitate and then eventually criticize the president. jim madison among them. it took time. i want to ask about another topic because this caught our attention. president trump was asked a simple question about something that america's allies, closest allies have blamed russia for, the poisoning of russian opposition leader alexi navalny. >> it is interesting that everybody is always mentioning russia and i don't mind you mentioning russia but i think probably china at this point is a nation that you should be talking about much more so than russia because the things that china is doing are far worse if you take a look at what is happening with the world.

>> repeatedly he will not call out russia on election interference or bounties on u.s. forces and dangerous encounters between russian aircraft and u.s. airaircraft, all things increasingly aggressive, not less. what do you make of his refusing to be critical of russia or trump and is that a green light to russia. >> jim, first it is a green light to russia. russia has been the most reliable enemy since the end of world war ii. if you ever needed an enemy, we were there to make sure you had an opponent that was near peer or peer and they had the capability and maybe the intent to do great harm to the united states. it is baffling to this soldier that the president of the united states, the commander in chief will not call them out. he cannot walk past this mistake, yet, he does over and

over again and the mistake of this poisoning of the putin opponent is revealing and indicates that the commander in chief cannot be trusted for reasons unknown to me but it certainly appears as if the russians that vladimir putin has something serious on this president. >> general, alex, thanks for your commentary and service to this country. >> jim, thank you. >> alex, take care. a program note, cnn will bring the stories of joe biden and donald trump and their fight for the white house. see their triumphs, tragedies and dramatic journeys to a showdown. don't miss the back to back documentary event starting monday, 8:00 p.m. on cnn. stay right there. more on the story that froze out just about every other major political and economic headline today. how the president's reported words on veterans and those killed in action will reverberate on the campaign

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corroborated pieces or added to the count of president's destain for u.s. service members. today the president said this about the men and women, four sources told jeffrey goldberg the president referred to as suckers and losers. >> there is nobody that feels more strongly about our soldiers, our wounded warriors, our soldiers that died in war than i do. it's a hoax. >> the question is, after everything else the president has lied about, does he have the credibility to make those words not carry weight? amanda carpenter and political analyst david garrigan. you served four presidents. we know the president's record with the truth. does he have the credibility to deny not just based on that general record of misleading or flatout false statements but also his frequent comments in public disparaging members of

the military, veterans and john mccain and others. >> exactly, jim. listen, i'm sorry to say this but i think this is -- if it is true, it's a dishonorable act and voters have to this november decide whether to discharge him or not. we never heard a president speak this way ever and presidents who love the military. i showed respect. treated them with dignity. they knew how much men and women have sacrificed and a lot is on the line. so i think this is a very damming story. is it true? we don't have the facts. i do think it's time because it's so important that whoever is a source, come from behind the curtain and tell it to us straight up and put it on the record and do that for the country. we need to know. it would be liable to do it if it were not true. so what's a more likely outcome? listen to your belief.

trump says he insists he never called john mccain a loser and we have it on a public record? john mccain said all these things are untrue and yet we know from "the washington post" over the four years, he's issued over 20,000 misleading lies and statements and involved in jeffrey goldberg is a very respected journalist and done a terrific job. all the signs point to the fact it is true but we still don't have all the facts. >> i mean, to be clear, amanda military. bi you worked for republicans for many years. we use the phrase hold their nose and vote for this president on something like this? does it cross a line?

>> well, i think what we've seen there are different lines for lots of different people and i feel like a lot of times even today we're just chasing the next bad thing we heard about trump saying, right? this is devastating, and i have every reason to believe it. i would hope john kelly would conif i recall firm it. at the same time i can understand how traumatic it can be given the fact some comments were made by his son's grave side. i don't know what that would do to a parent quite honestly. i have to ask my fellow republicans what more do you need to know? i mean, his former defense secretary james mattis came out and said he is a threat to the constitution and he's the only president he seen that works to divide the american people instead of unite them. what happened at lafayette square. listen to what -- don't listen to me. listen to what people who have worked for donald trump who have said about what they said on the

record about how he treats soldiers. mattis said that after he used the soldier's props to go get a photo op in lafayette square. i mean, we know it. people have been telling us. taylor last week, elizabeth who says she can't get him to pay attention to right wing terrorism. all this stuff is out there and so i just would encourage people to take a step back and not evaluate what we know donald trump has said but what the people who have tried to help him and tried to warn us on the record have said. >> have you, david, again working for president's clinton, regan, ford and nixon observing others, have you ever seen a president have so many people who work for him to the senior level say in public often times with their names attached, often times not but often times with their names attached that he's unqualified, unfit. incompetent.

is there any precedent for this? >> no, and i think that's especially true, jim, in the national security field you're so familiar. if you look at the generals, admirals and national security advisors people working intelligence, there are over a dozen generals, admirals and people that have worked with him. particularly stunning is people breaking with him are people that know him best and spend a lot of time with him and testified to his liking character. i still think that doesn't solve this problem, this particular set of statements that is so far beyond the bounds. if you look at the entire record, amachine nda is right i good question. what more do you need? >> listen, i wrote a book recently and spoke to people that serve this president, one of his most senior advisors said putin is trump's honey trap. said explicitly putin, that the

president is with vladimir putin. amazing what people say. amanda, put this in the context of the race 60 days from election. i know there is always outrage of the day, right, and often times people move on although there are things that are more lasting. is this one lasting? >> if it's evaluated in the context of all the other officials who have spoken out, again, there is a pattern here. not just a pattern of donald trump saying outrageous things especially if this is for republicans to consider. people have tried to help him. there are republicans in congress who have tried to help him and they're unable to do so. and so everybody does have a breaking point but what more good can you do and if the answer is you've tried, you've gave it a good go and it didn't work and not going to work, look into your heart and ask yourself what can you do in order to do good work in the future? i think that naturally would

lead you on a path away from trump. >> yeah, jim -- >> quickly before we go, sorry, david. >> i just want to say i wanted to mention the generational issue and that is generation of generation of people who served the mccain family for example three to four agagenerations. if you look at the trumps, i can't find one trump in the last three generations who have served this country in uniform. that's one that's particularly gulling to have these kind of conversations about our military. >> from "the washington post" reporting that the president just doesn't understand it. you don't get paid enough. why serve? fundamental thing. you know soldiers as i know all three of us do, you know why. amachi amanda car ppenter, david garrigan, thank you for your time. he maintains the country is

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the president again this evening tried to put the pandemic where he would like it to be. >> by the way, we're rounding the corner. we're rounding the corner on the virus. >> the fact sas say otherwise. 188,000 lives lost so far and according to the institute for health, met tricrics and evalua

there were sadly many more fatalities to come under the most likely scenario, 410,000 dead by years end. in the best case, 288,000. that is assuming very careful social distancing guidelines and quote near universal mask usage, which is actually declining in this country and though the president while reading from prepared remarks today very brief recalled on americans to wear a mask when appropriate when he's off prompter speaking to crowds, very differently. >> your second question was? i can't hear you. can you take it off because i can't hear you. >> i'll speak louder. >> because you want to be po politically correct. >> sitting in the oval office behind the great resolute desk, wearing a face mask while i greet prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i

don't see it for myself. i want people to have a certain freedom and i don't believe in that, no, and i don't agree with the statement if everybody would wear a mask evening disappears. did you ever see a man that likes a mask as much as him? then he makes a speech and he always has it, not always, but a lot of times he has it hanging down because it gives him a feeling of security. if i were a psychiatrist, right? no, i'd say, i'd say this guy has got some big issues. >> joining me is cnn's chief medical correspondent and william hazeltine a professor at the school of public health and also author of "a family guide to covid." great to have both of you on. sanjay, been a few hours since i talked to you. this model and again, these are not crystal balls. they are models. they help give you a sense of what is going to come and you and i talk about this often. when we look at this ihme model

in recent months have under stated the death toll, under shot the death toll when you look at these figures, do you find this a credible path where this pandemic is going in this country? >> it was a pretty jarring 4:00 a.m. wakeup call to look at the model for you and me both. yeah, it is not surprising but pretty jarring. you know, i think these are the previous models and as you point out, jim, compare the projections versus what the real numbers were and if anything, this particular organization has been conservative. that last one in october they said 180,000 people would die by their projection by october obviously it beginning of september and we've surpassed that. that gives you some idea. there was some sense that we had sort of plateaued in this country at an average of 1,000 people dying a day, which is awful. it horrific to think about and we shouldn't get used to ever saying that but what this model

is now projecting is that those numbers are going to go up, up to 3,000 people potentially dying every day by december. so it does make sense, sadly. >> professor hazeltine at the upper end, worst-case scenario, a number could jump to 620,000 by january first based on this model here. i mean, that presumes a further weakening of social distancing, mask wearing, et cetera, which we're seeing signs of. when you look at where this country is going with its habits now on this and kind of exhaustion, right, with the pandemic, do you consider that a realistic outcome? >> well, i think it is a realistic outcome and we know that this epidemic depends on our own behavior amongst other things. when the president says we're rounding a corner, it reminds me

very much of years ago when lyndon johnson said there is a light at the end of the tunnel. it turned out there was a tunnel at the end of the tunnel, and the numbers that we're looking at, just think of what the on course number looks like. it looks like as many people dying between now and december and we can have our own personal schedules go from now to december. this insane number of people that died from the beginning of this epidemic are on track to die in the next three months. that's the average. if we take loosening up more than we are it's three times that or 12 thou,000 people a da. now what is 12,000 people a day look like? i can tell you in new york city it looked like a makeshift morgue on the cross street two blocks down from me with 40 body bags on the street.

one of them a friend of mine. that's what it looks like. >> we saw here it in new york. new york to its credit got it under control by taking strict measures to reduce the spread. sanjay, a lot of focus -- >> everybody is wearing a mask that you see. >> they are. >> 90%. >> people stick to the rules to their credit. sanjay, a lot of focus on a vaccine. russia is making progress here but they're jump starting the process, right, in that they are rushing before the end of phrase three trials. is there good news or are they going too fast? >> i'm glad they released data. i will say that but i think we would be well served to be skeptical here. when we last heard about this,

we heard about registered and approved and russia we heard that putin's daughter got a dose of this. we heard investigatiors gave themself the science. in the context if you look at the data, we look at the data. there is 76 participants. they got two doses of this. according to the literature publish published, mild side effects like headache and fever and did show evidence of generating antibodies, neutralizing antibodies not in the concentration of other trials but did show some of that. i got to tell you, this is just a difficult story to cover because, you know, there is not a lot of transparency, period. we're talking about the russia vaccine but many of these vaccine candidates. we're seeing very limited data. the data is sometimes by press

release, sometimes a preprint. we would like to see better data. there is bipartisan legislation called the safe authorization of vaccines during an emergency that calls for the public to be able to get full transparency. i think that's a good thing for this particular vaccine. >> part of the driving force are fears in this country of political interference. you have the president saying today vaccine by october no reporting health officials for any good vaccine news before the election. should americans be concerned that politics will influence the science here? >> well, politics will influence the science if it can. and we should be concerned because we don't know what's going to be safe or effective nor can we know by november 1st. the second thing i would say is i've been looking at the russian numbers. if they had a miracle vaccine, why are their numbers going up?

they don't have a miracle vaccine. if you look at the data as sanjay said, it looks like any ordinary phase one study they called it a phase two study, not a faphase two study. it with less than 100 people that did okay. there is even a couple of features i would commend about the vaccine that they have one form that is heat stable. that's good for the third world but it's not by any means an international standard or any kind of standard for which to approve a vaccine for general use. >> well, let's hope the u.s. follows a better standard. sanjay, william hazeltine, thanks to both of you. >> you're welcome. next, i'll speak to karen bass about race and politics and the result on a cnn poll are people more or less likely now to experience it in the u.s. that's coming up. free access to every platform.

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welcome back. for a time this year the need for social justice reform was something that democrats and even many republicans could agree on. it all happened after those protests in minneapolis and around the world over the death in late may of george floyd. some of his final words pleading for his mother with the police officers' knee on his neck. these protests helped refocus

attention on previous cases such as that of elijah mcclain, a 23-year-old that died after authorities used ketamine to subdue him. it appears public support for social justice is fading. 55% of americans think racism is a big problem in this country. back in june that number was higher. 67%. i want to speak now about this and other issues from california congresswoman karen bass. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me on. >> when you look at these numbers here, do you worry that the moment after george floyd's death, that that was more needing than you'd hoped in terms of a moment for change in this country? >> no, actually, as somebody who has worked on this issue for decades, i really think that moment has caused a seismic shift in our country. when we've had past examples

overmurdof murders on videos, you never heard people collecting it to systemic racism. i know the polls dipped some but i'm not discouraged by that. i think we have a lot of work that we need to do in showing very specific solutions to police abuse. >> i was going to ask you about that because after george floyd, there was a push for legislation and it stopped, right? as so many things stop in washington between democrats and republicans. it kind of put on the back burner it seems until after the election. did that disappoint you. you're shaking your head. is it possible we'll see something before the election. >> i am shaking my head because that's what happened. what happened is we did pass the bill out of the house with bipartisan support, however, there have been discussions that have continued bipartisan discussions have continued with republicans in the house and also with a couple of people in the senate. now my republican colleagues are

talking to their counter parts in the senate and there is still hope. you know in the legislative process you have things that appear to go to the back burner but they're actually out of the public eye. >> okay. good. we will -- let's keep up that conversation because we'd like to hear an update when we get there. this week you saw the president and his opponent visit kenosha. the president and actually some even said about joe biden don't come now. there is too much going on here. when you looked at both of those visits, do you think they made a difference, a positive difference, a negative difference? >> well, i do think that what the vice president did absolutely made a difference and maybe if neither one of them went, i think it was very important biden go after trump's visit because one of the reasons why i know there has been a decrease in those poll numbers is because trump has been doing

everything he can to stoke racial conflict. absolutely. and that has had a negative impact but because he went and he went in the manner in which he did, it was imperative for the vice president to go and i'm glad he did. i think his visit was healing. he met with the family. he met with leaders in the community and when leaders in the community asked trump whether or not he thought there was a problem with racism and police, and he said no, you can imagine what that meant to the african americans and the other people in that community. >> on that point, i'm sure you heard the attorney general bill barr tell my colleague wolf blitzer earlier this week his view of whether there are two justice systems in this country. have a listen. i want to get your response. >> sure. >> i don't think there are two justice systems. i think the narrative that the police are on some, you know, epidemic of shooting unarmed black men is simply a false

narrative and also the narrative that that's based on race. the demonization of the police and the idea this is so wide spread and epidemic is simply wrong. >> false narrative, false epidemic. what's your response? >> you know what? at the end of the day keno >> you look at data. how can you say there's not two justice systems? the picture of that young man -- actually the 17-year old. i hesitate to call him a man. walking down the street with an ar-15 after he had killed two people, shot -- wounded a third, the police do absolutely nothing. if that had been a black man he would have taken two steps, he would have been filled with 20 or 30 bullets. they gave him water and sent him home, did not even arrest him. what did they do to -- so you look at the data. you look at the incarceration rate, you look at the arrest rate. i would fully expect that though from attorney general barr because he is not the attorney general for the united states.

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tamika pal months since the killing of breonna taylor by police in louisville and no charges have been filed in her death after police obtained a now-banned no-knock search warrant. taylor's boyfriend, who survived the encounter, said the officers did not announce themselves during the late night raid. police say they did. regardless, large protests are expected this labor day and derby day weekend in louisville.

cnn's jason carroll spoke with taylor's mother about the shooting and their family's search for justice. >> reporter: breonna taylor's mother is still looking for answers. >> i've never had a lot of faith in the system just because i have seen it fail the people so many times. so in going through this, i definitely have less faith. just like i said, i just can't understand for the life of me why it has taken so long. >> reporter: tamika palmer says she waited five months for answers, five months since her daughter was shot and killed by police. >> a lot of times you want to give up, you want to walk away, but i know that she deserves justice. >> reporter: taylor was killed in the early morning hours of march 13th after louisville police, serving a no-knock warrant, broke down her door with a battering ram. police say they banged on the door but got no response. her boyfriend says he fired a shot, thinking they were

intruders, and police opened fire. taylor, a 26-year-old emergency room technician, died within minutes of being shot. >> anger, rage, hurt, guilt. >> reporter: guilt. why guilt? >> as a parent you feel your one job is to protect your baby and i wasn't there. >> reporter: while the investigation is not complete, one point is tragically clear. police forced entry into taylor's home, wrongly suspecting she was connected to a drug ring. that operation ended with taylor's death and lots of unanswered questions about the officers' actions. protesters have continuously called for the three officers involved in her shooting to be prosecuted. none have been charged. but in june the louisville metro police department did fire one of the officers detective bret hanken s hankenson for showing extreme indifference to the value of

human life after he allegedly fired ten shots into taylor's home. his attorney appealed the dismissal and disputed the allegation he blindly fired his weapon. in the wake of taylor's death the louisville city council has passed breonna's law which requires officers to wear body cameras and banning no-knock warrants. taylor's family says they continue to be inspired by words and actions of support. >> as george floyd, breonna taylor and a never-ending list of innocent people of color continue to be murdered, stating the simple fact that a black life matters is still met with derision from the nation's highest office. >> there is no vaccine for racism. we have got to do the work for george floyd, for breonna taylor. >> reporter: athletes all over the world have taken a stand for

the black lives matter movement. taylor's portrait, gracing the cover of this month's "vanity fair". back in louisville, 26 billboards posted around the city, one for each year of her life, and calls for justice continue. >> i think there will be protests every day until justice is served. >> reporter: and if justice is not served? >> i don't know. i just -- i hate to even think about that. jason carroll joins us now. you are at churchill downs, of course the site of tomorrow's kentucky derby where protesters are expected to demonstrate. how big a demonstration, what do they expect? >> reporter: they are expecting hundreds if not more demonstrators to show up tomorrow, jim. i spoke to an organizer tonight, they know all eyes will be on louisville tomorrow, and they say it is the perfect time to remind people that there still has not been justice for breonna taylor or her family. >> the derby is a big event in

louisville, a good way to attract attention. thanks so much, jason carroll. the news continues. i will hand it over to my colleague, don lem moon on "cnn tonight". hello, everyone. friday night. this is "cnn tonight". i'm don lemon. it is 9:00 p.m. on the east coast. do not suggest your set. i'm on early because chris is off this evening. we will start a little bit early. there is a lot happening tonight. the president of this country, of the united states, running out of buses to throw people under. after quotes attributed to him in that devastating new "atlantic" article, it must be as vulgar and as reprehensible to military families, to veterans and our troops all over the world as any he has ever been known to make. we first brought you this scathing reporting from "the