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hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world. welcome to a special labor day edition of "cnn newsroom." joe biden, kamala harris and vice president mike pence in battleground state it is open the eight-week sprint to election day a. reminder that we are still learning as we go coming the coronavirus pandemic. a group says it's highly unlikely the virus can be transmitted through food. that is a positive as the country stares down a labor day coronavirus challenge and as the numbers challenge the president's tack that we have already rounded the corner.
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the president here in washington today holding a press conference next hour and says on twitter vaccines plus are coming soon but the scientists working on a vaccine are worried you will see the work as an election year rush and planning a joint promise that science alone will dictate this timeline. the president claims he is getting great reviews for the pandemic management. the numbers that matter most continue to numb us, nearly 6.3 million cases, soon to be 189,000 american deaths. labor day is critical in part because memorial day and the fourth of july drove the summer surge to the awful highs. the data tell us just how bad it was. 4.6 million cases, 74% of the american total came in the summer. the south the epicenter. 43,000 plus summer surge deaths so where are we? take a look. first the 50 state trend map and it is a mixed picture.
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16 states trending up meaning reporting more new infections now compared to a week ago. 16 holding steady. 18 states trending down. down includes texas and california but heading back up arizona and florida. so a very mixed picture with the case map. the death trend map is full of sadness. 15 states trending up at the moment meaning more deaths on a seven-day average right now than a week ago. 22 states trending down in that count. new cases, this is the big question in the community. go back to memorial day here. why did we have a spike? july fourth. why did we go up more? as we come down now, are we at a plateau? if you see the last couple of weeks, looks like a plateau of 40,000 new infections a day, too high as the seasons change. look at the total cases this
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way, memorial day 1.67 million infections in the united states on memorial day. a depressing summer. just shy of 6.3 million as of sunday and count into the holiday. because of the new infections, because the baseline is so high the model projects the death toll to more than double between now and the end of the year to 410,000 plus americans. you see the numbers on the screen. below 200,000 and projects to more than double and possibly 3,000 deaths a day in december. july was 1,000 deaths a day. now for critics saying this is a projection, they'll be way off, note for history the ihme projections so far have been conservative in that ihme projecting 180,000 by july 1st. the number higher. projected by october 1st we
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would hit 180,000 and we hit that earlier by august 27th. among the kritings is the doctor with the most influence on the president of the united states, scott atlas brought in the white house coronavirus task force saying when you hear this number, don't believe it. >> i think the model is ridiculous in many ways. they predict if you wear masks and if you don't how many deaths will occur. that's absurd. the taxi cab driver knows what a projection model is or starts telling me about hydroxychloroquine. >> okay. when i say -- >> this is really off the rails. >> let's discuss, bring in ali mokdad at university of washington and dr. celine gounder. you work on that projection. scott atlas said it's absurd.
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i believe you consider it to be actual science. >> yes, it is. unfortunately, when somebody like scott says absurd it makes you wonder what he is talking about. we do this all the time. we have a prevalence of a risk fa factor and we can compute how much attributable deaths you will have from that risk factor and you can do a counter factual. if smoking down by 5% what will happen to lung cancer? this is basic epidemiology 101. i understand a taxi driver questioning me but not a scientist. >> one of the sad parts of the last seven months is sometime it is taxi drivers seem to have more facts than things we hear from people advising the president of the united states and a sad things of the past seven months. dr. gounder, you hear mr. atlas
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now inside the white house, perhaps the most influential perhap on the president. the projection says more to double the death toll between now and the end of the year and he dr. fauci in disagreement saying we have turned the corner. >> by the way, we are rounding the corner. we are rounding the corner on the virus. >> i'm not sure what he means. certain states are doing well in the sense that the case numbers are coming down. our concern right now is that there are a number of states, particularly, for example, the dakotas, montana, michigan, minnesota and others who are starting to have an uptick. >> you got 12 states with a positivity rate tracking a week now back above 10% in double digits. you have got -- keep looking at the other states with cases trending up. have we rounded the corner? we have a baseline of 40,000, new infections a day.
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>> the least reliable forecaster coming to this pandemic is the president. he said this will go away with the summer weather, it did not. whether 400,000 deaths by the end of the year or 275 or 600 no model is perfect. what is clear, though, is that we have way too many transmissions occurring and that many of those are preventable so every death that occurs that's a preventable death is one death too many. >> ali, i want you to listen here because a question people asked, the president said back in february i think would all disappear in the summer. it got more deadly and more infections and seeing the growth from memorial day to now it simply numbs you. the question is now as it gets cooler and people go inside, is that climate more conducive to the coronavirus? listen to this take from dr.
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scott gottlieb. >> if you look at where we are heading into labor day relative to where we were heading be memorial day we have equivalent amount if not more infection heading into labor day and heading into the fall and the winter to expect a respiratory pathogen like a coronavirus to start spreading more aggressively than in the summertime. backdrop here is that people are exhausted so i think that people's willingness to comply with the simple things that we know can reduce spread will start to fray. >> walk through some of that. because i was reading the detailed analysis of the projection the other day and you factor in the baseline, memorial day 18,000 new infections a day and now 40,000 plus more infections a day, moren next out there in the country and then the conduct of people, the other surveys on mask use especially the middle part of the country and lo and behold those are the states where you see high
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positivity and more cases. >> very true. so unfortunately, john, what we see right now is when the cases go up, take, for example, arizona, people start wearing a mask and then when cases start coming down, people start relaxing and right now in the united states the trends are against us so mask wearing is 5% down from before. moebt mobility is increasing in the united states and heading into winter where we know that -- following what we knee in pneumonia seasonality and will pick up in winter which is very true, what your guest said, and we'll see more cases coming into winter, unfortunately. >> then, dr. gounder, walk us through that. people on the beach this weekend and you want everyone to get outside, safer to be outside and some pictures this weekend are not so safe if uyou will. what are the seasonal factors and other factors that you think are so critical to think about
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at this cross roads moment of the challenge being can you shove it down below 40 and keep it down or go back up again? >> right, john. we start with the high baseline and on top of that we have recently seen an increase in counties where colleges and universities are located so college students are driving an increase in transmission. you layer on top of that the bump you'll get from labor day activities just as we saw with memorial day and then the fourth of july. and then when people are indoors more as the weather cools, as they're coming back from maybe a summer vacation outside the city or wherever they go, when you have students returning to school in many parts of the country, 30 to a classroom in some places that will drive trance mention in the community so as the fall comes many of us are really steeling ourselves for what we're about to see in terms of the new surge. >> it is steeling is a good word
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he believes he has always followed campaign fund raising laws and regulations and the north carolina attorney general tweeting this. it is against the law to directly or indirectly reimburse someone for a political contribution. with me to discuss this and more, white house reporter for "washington post," congressional reporter for "the washington post." rachel, this was an issue when dejoy was questioned up on capitol hill. maybe congressman cooper just didn't ask the question right. listen to this exchange. >> did you pay back several of your top executives for contributing to trump's campaign by bonusing or rewarding them? >> that's an out ray you claim, sir, and i resent it. >> i'm just asking a question. >> the answer's no. >> the conduct alleged in the article talks 2010 to 2014 to republicans and before the trump campaign if true but so is -- the question is is there a
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nugget here of potential illegality with republicans and not so much the trump campaign? >> yeah, look. this is really going to conti e contribute to the legal trouble of dejoy right now. democrats have been questioning whether he's been going into the post office and making the changes to try to slow mail-in voting to swing the election for the president. who he obviously gives a lot of money to and supports but this blo blockbuster story, you have people on the record saying that a couple years ago he engaged in this illegal campaign finance scheme or at least alleging this pressuring him to give to republicans to help gop candidates and reimbursed them and what it will do on capitol hill is hearing from democrats to add to the suspension around dejoy and not just if he did it back then allegedly what is he doing for election day for trump and then this issue of denying this under oath in a hearing
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reminder that lying to congress, you know, is a felony and get in trouble for that, too. i think there's obviously this growing scandal, cloud around dejoy and a reminderer, what, 50 days out from election day and supposed to be the official overseeing to make sure that the mail-in ballots are counted and right now he has the controversy around him. >> he has all this controversy, katherine, and it is just more and should be used to this, candidate trump 2015-2016 and president trump 2020. scrutiny. they do the sunday shows and they're asked about this report first in "the atlantic" and then the gist confirmed by many, many organizations including cnn and fox news that the president talked about disparaged american war dead as losers, suckers. listen to this. >> have you ever heard the president disparage u.s. service
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members or veterans? >> well, absolutely not. and i would be offended, too, if i thought it was true. >> i think this president has enormous respect for the military and for the generals and i've been at the tank at the pentagon with him. i've been at 9/11 at the pentagon with him. this president respects and supports the u.s. military. >> there's a couple of layers to this. just another controversy and this one, this character question, about the president. this is just reprehencible if these things said by any president of the quite and then flips the coin is that the democrats see an opening here, katherine, but they also are mindful they thought the character questions to undermine candidate trump in 2016 and didn't work then. >> that's right, john. i was at the event in iowa when president trump said these things about the late john mccain. you remember. he talked about him not being a war hero, he didn't like people
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who were captured, which is, of course, a problem for the trump organization now is there's certain things that the president said on the record openly. certainly he's also praised the military, appeared and given somber events and now mounting a very aggressive pushback to this. you saw scores of people pushing back on this report because it's a critical moment for his campaign. he is trying to close the gap with the former -- >> i'm sorry. i need to interrupt you on this. the democratic nominee joe biden meeting with labor leaders in la lancaster, pennsylvania. let's listen. >> collectively we have about 135,000 construction man and women in the commonwealth. we are building major projects like the cracker plant out in beaver county and donald trump didn't start. that was started under the obama administration and i saw a press
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release that he put on that they mandated everybody show up for the event that he was at out there and then he stood up there and said that he created that whole entity out there which isn't true but i'll go away from that for a minute but, you know, we have had the opportunity to meet several times through the years. and you have my highest respect and our union members are better off because of you and what you've done in your career as a senator and as vice president. we couldn't ask for a better friend to become president of the united states. it's just -- it saddens us, it saddens me personally with some of the stuff going on in our country, starting from the white
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house. and we need the ship righted again and i really believe that you're the man that can do it and you have my 100% support. >> well, thank you. i've been union from time i was a kid. in my house you didn't grow up if you -- we knew who built the country. we figured it out early on. my uncle used to sid me and say, joe, you're belt buckle from shoe sole. >> so may i introduce everyone here? >> please. >> bob is from schuylkill county area with the ironworkers. he's a retired veteran from vietnam war and would you like to say a few words? >> glad to see you. last time i saw you this close was down in york, p.a. the first time you and president obama was running. >> is that right?
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>> i was on the fence line. in an auditorium crowd. i was going to get your autd graph. pen and paper. the secret service, you can't have that pen and that was the end of the autd graph. i'm bob faust with the ironworkers local 404 out of harrisburg, p.a. retired from there in 2003. and we -- you know, i started as an apprentice iron worker. two-year aparen hisshprenticesh and they have an excellent program and we can't do away with that. and for the 35 years i was working as an ironworker, i'm 74 now. takes me a while to get around not like i used to. but because of that, because of the decent wage we made, the
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living wage, i had four daughters and a son and two of the daughters i put through college and the third one i put through nursing school. no help from the government because i made a decent wage. as a union ironworker. now, people can't understand, i don't know. you know? i can't understand what's going on today. i'm lost. i'm lost, sir. and i hope -- i just -- i get choked up when i think about the direction this country is going in at this time. we need your help. >> sir, our next speaker is warren from -- >> howard. >> local 520. i mean, howard. sorry. >> you're watching joe biden in lancaster, pennsylvania. this is the unusual campaign year we find ourselves. it is traditional to meet with labor leaders around the country. pennsylvania, it is his birthplace. you see joe biden there with the
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leaders of the union. the social distancing. that was a surprise for us. i still have katherine and rachel with me. katherine, i'm sorry for the interruption. on the other point but to watch something like this is a reminder, kamala harris is in wisconsin today and meeting with the family of jacob blake, the black man shot seven times in the back by police in kenosha, wisconsin. joe biden there in what looks like the strangest of settings but that is the new normal and noteworthy that both biden and harris are out. vice president pence is out. we are getting -- not traditional, not the same and getting more of a campaign all of a sudden. >> that's right. post labor day we are and last week seeing the former vice president out on the campaign trail in a way we haven't since the spring. he is doing events in battleground states. the president is for sometime and of course they are -- they
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have different theories of how to do this. the president leaning into the sort of airport rallies. seeing him do the hangar rallies, smaller crowds but fairly sizable crowds in this moment of a pandemic. he's focusing on that. we'll see him out a number of time this is week and the former vice president is sticking more to these kinds of socially distanced events or smaller meetings and seeing them both out and one thing this week is that they're both going to be or expected to be in september on friday for 9/11 commemoration events. not clear if they will see each other but they're both expected in shanksville, p.a. >> katherine, rachel, appreciate your patience and reporting. eight weeks from tomorrow is election day. thank you both. we'll continue this conversation and continuing it when we come back. president trump pushing race and race related policies as an election issue.
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cohen pleaded guilty to lying to congress. the white house says cohen lost all credibility and unsurprising to see the latest attempt to profit off of lies. abby phillip is with me. you see this from michael cohen and the white house can deny it but the language in the disparaging remarks of a hero tracks other things the president said about africa and african leaders and the broader michael cohen description of his former boss as an overt and frequent racist also tracks things sadly that we see with our own eyes. >> reporter: and it's particularly notable considering the role that michael cohen played over the years which is in some cases to when he was working for donald trump to inoculate him from accusations of racism, you know? citing his work in the trump organization, citing his work on the apprentice and now michael cohen really taking a totally different tact but this along with a lot of other things that have been happening for president trump recently
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including comments about the military, it is more believable to the public because it is not too dissimilar of what's been reported, what he has already said publicly, describing, for example, the late congressman elijah cummings as baltimoretrikt as rat infested. these are the type of comments i think the problem for president trump in denying them now is that to many people they will ring true based on what he has said on the record already in other circumstances that are similar and that seem to point to the same idea which is that the president seems to use this kind of language when he is talking about poor nations, africa nations, places where he doesn't want immigrants to come from, for example. >> you see clear policy decisions being made by the incumbent president, a president running for re-election has the power of the presidency. this president's policy choices driven to push up white turnout
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and if they came to play they would vote for president trump so just in recent days he say it is education department will investigate schools that use the "the new york times" magazine 1619 project, will purge the use of the critical race theory, he's also bragged that he's repealed the fair housing rule and will keep people, unwelcomed people out of the suburbs. there's no secret, it is in plain sight. >> reporter: and what's interesting to me, john, about this is how narrowly focused some of these policies if you want to call them that are. they are so laser focused on a narrow band of the president's own white supporters that you have to wonder is there even any thought that this might not appeal to people who he needs who are in the middle of the
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political spectrum, more independent, who are not going to be particularly interested in these base plays on the 1619 project or critical race theory. what it speaks to is what we see in the polls which is that republicans far more than democrats and independents are likely to believe that white people are the people facing the most discrimination in this country or they face significant discrimination in the country and a belief that president trump himself espouses in interviews saying that white people more likely to be killed by police officers, even though that's not exactly what the data shows saying on the twitter feed talking about reverse discrimination against white people and speaking to people already with him. the question as always, john, with these things is, is there any thought to expanding the base? these plays might work to get the core supporters out but this
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year more so than 2016 it is not clear if that's enough. >> not clear if the math will work but as we've learned this president when he feels under pressure goes back to the base. that is his reflex and believes it worked in 2016. abby phillip, grateful for the reporting there. still ahead, india surpassed brazil, has the most second most coronavirus infections in the world. at 3x more than ordinary antiperspirants. with secret, you're unstoppable. no sweat! try it and love it or get your money back.
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the tokyo games will take place next july regardless of where the worldwide battle with covid stands. the vice president of the international olympic games calling them quote the game that is conquered covid but it is still unclear, remains to be seen if they allow spectators. now more headlines from around the globe. >> here in india, the country has surpassed brazil's case load. for the last two days, end why's reported over 90,000 new infections while the population is over 1.36 billion, brazil has a population over 211 million. one reason for the high number of infections being reported from india is aggressive testing, almost 15 million samples to date.
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as pat of easing covid-19 restrictions, metro services have resumed in a graded manner, strict protocols for social distancing is implemented at stations and inside trains. later this month gatherings of 100 people or less will be allowed for public functions. according to the health ministry, 60% of india's total cases are being reported from 5 states. cnn, new delhi. >> here in london schools across the country are back in session and the government is urging businesses to send employees back to the office. just as the uk records its highest single day coronavirus case count since may. across europe, the second wave looks set to eclipse the first one and while more testing has captured more cases the british health secretary says the current trend in this country is concerning. he's blaming young people, particularly affluent ones for the sudden spike in cases saying
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he is worried if they don't follow the rules they spread the virus to older, more vulnerable parts of the population and doesn't seem like they have. 40 times fewer people on a ventilator today in british hospitals than that were at the peak of the pandemic and the daily death tolls have been in the single digits. still there is concern that those numbers could rise as they have in spain where they just recorded recently nearly 200 deaths in a sing dahl i, the highest tally since day. >> here in france there are more worrying covid-19 figures. there are red zones, areas where the virus is circumstance latting actively and where authorities can do things like decree that masks are mandatory outdoors and close places like bars. daily rises in the number of new cases, more than 8,500 on
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saturday, just short of the record that was set on friday. more than 8,900 cases here in france, that the single largest daily increase yet. melissa bell, cnn, paris. >> up next, major league baseball and the lessons it is teaching us about the coronavirus back to work challenge. hope, it is the light in all of us that cannot be extinguished. it rages on to give us a glimmer of what we can do,
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we're all learning the return to work experiment can be tricky. how often do you test? what are the rules of quarantine? how about travel? major league baseball has important lessons. i'm grateful for your time. i love the piece you and you colleague wrote. it's instructive. we're watching as fans. the baseball season play out. they don't have the nba's bubble and you make an important point on several important questions. baseball is setting an example. go through some of them. close contact. and the lesson here you draw from the experience of the miami marlins. >> hugs and high fives are pretty risky in terms of contact with the person who has coronavirus infection. so what the mar listens and major league baseball learned the hard way here is initial definition of close contact of
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isolation said simply if you've been within six feet of somebody for 15 consecutive minutes is bad. is it enough? they upgraded thatten collude essentially hand shakes, high fives, that sort of thing. so again, you know, if you're going to use a definition of close contact include brief encounters within the six feet limit like a high five. >> we have been debating for seven months, what is the incubation period here? three days, five days? 14 days? cardinals offer instruction here. >> they do. so the official range is between two days and 14 days. there are some experts thinking that 14 days is probably pretty extreme and unlikely. median is four to five days. what the cardinals learned after three days of no positive tests after several previously is didn't wait long enough.
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>> right. and this one is one of my fairts, social distancing, the phillies learning to stretch it out. >> this is really good news for everybody. the main message here is take it from baseball at any rate, go outside. what they have experienced is no documented case in which a player on one team has contracted the coronavirus from a player on the other team and almost like baseball being outdoors lends itself well to these things. >> and so on the pariah question, this is fascinating for everybody. if somebody breaks the rules in the neighborhood bubble, office bubble, school bubble, sports team bubble, peel get mad. the cleveland indians are an example here. >> you probably can't rely on people to be truthful about the
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behavior. the other rule of thumb is if you're untruthful there are probably severe consequences, maybe not being traded but certainly some very angry feelings if you get found out. >> if you get caught. honesty up front should help. don't break the rules if you have rules. on the question of testing, a huge question now. we have kids back on college campuses, students in k-12, people back to the office and the athletes, part is because the leagues have resources but you say from the reds, the mets and the a's to hone in on the key testing questions. >> this is some what to baseball figuring out that testing every other day with a potential time lag up to 48 hours is not enough if what you do between taking a test is potentially travel to another city and play a baseball game so the length of time between taking the test and
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getting the results is crucial and what you do in that intervening period matters most of all. most institutions don't have the resources of sports in order to test as frequently as they have. but regardless, the takeaway here, what you do from taking the test to getting the result is as critical as any other aspect of taking that test. >> very much appreciate your time and insights and you should pick up "the wall street journal" and read the full article. thank you so much for your time today. a sneak peek at the cnn special report "the fight for the white house." little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting.
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i'm a talking dog. the other issue. oh...i'm scratching like crazy. you've got some allergic itch with skin inflammation. apoquel can work on that itch in as little as 4 hours, whether it's a new or chronic problem. and apoquel's treated over 8 million dogs. nice. and...the talking dog thing? is it bothering you? no...itching like a dog is bothering me. until dogs can speak for themselves, you have to. when allergic itch is a problem, ask for apoquel. apoquel is for the control of itch associated with allergic dermatitis and the control of atopic dermatitis in dogs. do not use apoquel in dogs less than 12 months old or those with serious infections. apoquel may increase the chance of developing serious infections and may cause existing parasitic skin infestations or pre-existing cancers to worsen. do not use in breeding, pregnant, or lactating dogs. most common side effects are vomiting and diarrhea. feeling better? i'm speechless. thanks for the apoquel.
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aw...that's what friends are for. ask your veterinarian for apoquel next to you, apoquel is a dog's best friend. just in to cnn, a saudi court jailed eight people over the killing of journalist khashoggi. the defendants received sentences of 7 to 20 years. khashoggi's children said they forgave the killers. a u.s. service member for treatment right now for an injury sustained when he was attacked by forces in somalia. according to the u.s. military. the injuries do not appear to be life threatening. managing the response to the coronavirus threat they complicate the bid for four more years.
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jake tapper dives into that question in a special report. >> governors were left to fend for their states. >> it was just mass pandemonium. >> maryland republican governor hogan. >> it was a 50-state strategy, some states doing better than others. and really a mad scramble to try to find these things. >> hogan's secretly sourced half a million tests for his state from south korea. >> i asked the president about that at a briefing we had. >> could have saved money but that's okay. >> go to south korea -- >> i don't think he needed to go to south korea. i think he needed to get a little knowledge would have been helpful. >> testing was amazing in the united states and the question was if that's true then why is the governor of maryland having to go to another country. >> testing lagging far behind despite the president's spin. >> anybody that wants a test can get a test. that's the bottom line. >> that was a lie. experts agree one of the singular reasons we still have so many cases and so many deaths
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is because the u.s. lagged in its ability to identify the virus through testing and isolate it. >> don't miss "fight for the white house" tonight 10:00 p.m. earn here on cnn. brook baldwin picks up our coverage right now. john, thank you so much. good afternoon to you all. thank you for joining us on this special labor day edition of "cnn newsroom." pr president trump is expected to take questions from reporters who are there and of course we'll take that live. the news conference comes as the president's response to the coronavirus pandemic continues to be called into question despite his boasts today that he is getting quote very high marks. this is all happening as fears mount that we will see new outbreaks similar to what we
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