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literally, if the democrats, they would have been in jail two years ago for treason and other things. >> my question is do you want the justice department to indict people over is that? >> i'm not going to say that. i to see the report. i don't know if that's a good thing, smart thing. but i have every right to have been very much involved and maybe one day i'll get involved. they spied on my campaign and that includes biden and obama. they spied on my campaign trying to defeat me. they wrote up a fake dossier, proven by christopher steel and they used that illegally in the pfizer courts. if we did what they did, you would have many people in jail right now and you have, other than the one agent that admitted his guilt, that he forged documents, we don't have that yet. let's see what happens. let me just tell you something.
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president obama and biden, sleepy joe. he knew everything happening. they were spying on my campaign and got caught. but if this were the opposite way, people would have been jailed. they would have been in jail already for a period of at least -- it would have started two years ago and would have been for 50 years for treason. and nothing like that has ever happened before. then they created a tremendous expense. millions of dollars. they created a fake dossier. a fake dossier. proven to be now fake. and they used it in the pfizer courts. that's a crime. so far i haven't seen anybody have a problem. but the report hasn't been issued yet. let's see what happens with the durham report. but this started with obama. and some people, well, he was the president. let's leave him alone. if it were me, they wouldn't be leaving me alone.
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i tell you. it's a degrace. and if i were republican senator and congressman, and we have great ones, but we have a lot of them that don't fight inway that the other side fights. we have much better policy, much better things going for us, like be boarders and walls and immigration and no sanctuary cities. they have a lot of bad stuff going but they're dirty fighters and the dirtiest fight of all is the issuance of 80 million ballots. unrequested. they're not requested. they're just sending 80 million balleds all over the country, nonrequested. i call them unsolicited ballots. they're going to say what am i doing? and they're going to do all the things. and if you look at the last period of six months. where they've sent ballots at, take a look at carolyn maloney,
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whose race should be redone because she won it totally unfairly to her opponent. her opponent did very well against her. that race should be rerun. but they declared her the winner because they heard i found out about it. take a look what happens in new jersey and other places. >> if proven true, are you okay with post master general dejoy and the fact that he asked former employees at his private company to make donations to the gop and reimburse them? >> other than that i have to see it. he's very respected man. he was approved very much by both parties i guess. i don't know exactly what the story is. i'll know within a short period of time. for the first time i read it this morning just like you did. >> have you supported
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investigations? >> sure. let the investigations go. but he's a very respected man. aga again, it was a bipartisan commission. and we'll see how that goes. but i think he's a very honest guy. but we'll see. >> thank you, mr. president. >> go ahead, please. >> if it's proven to be a campaign finance scheme, do you think he should lose his job? >> if something can be proven he did something wrong, always. they've been looking at me for four years. from the day i came down the escalator, i've been under investigation by sleaze and they found nothing. a friend of mine said you have to be the most honorable man. he spent -- i guess the real number turned out be to $48
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million. fbi agents all over the place and they have no collusion. sfis kate friends have said you have to be the most innocent guy ever to hold this office and there's a lot of truth to that. >> chancellor angela merkel of germany is under project to -- >> you never heard of it until i came along. i said wait a minute, we're protecting germany from russia, right. germany from russia. germany's paying russia billions and billions to get their energy
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and the number is 60 to 70%, ultimately, if their energy is coming from russia. i said this for years. one of the many things between sanctions and what we've done for ukraine, relative to the past. we sent tank busters. but i brought that up a long time ago. russia's unhappy i brought it up. and i said why is germany making a deal to give billions of dollars to russia and we're protecting germany from russia? how does that work? and on top of it, germany is delinquent because they're only paying a little more than 1% and supposed to be paying 2% and even the 2% is low. but remember, trump, me, i got the country's of nato to spend 1. -- 130 billion, going to $400 billion a year. think of it.
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$400 billion a year more for nato. and the purpose of nato, primarily is europe protection against russia. they can use it for other, i guess and they have a little in the middle east but i'm the one that did that. nobody talks about that. the answer is absolutely, if they feel that something happens, but i don't know that germany's in a position right now because germany's in a weakened position energy wise. they're closing their plants, their nuclear, they're closing a lot of plants and they are -- they have put themselves in a bad position, frankly. very, very bad position. >> have you asked john kelly to publicly refuse the at -- >> no, i have nothing against john. nothing against anybody, no. i was very heartened to see a flend of his, because i know
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zack is a friend of his, i was heartened to see he came out with the statement he did late last night. that it was not true. >> mr. president, what exactly is unamerican about federal government training programs aimed at -- >> well, we're going to do a report. and it was a disgrace, frankly. and we're going to give you a big report that's going to make you very happy. >> you said a moment ago they'll say anything. you were talking about joe biden and kamala harris and their comments about the vaccine. >> they're going to say negative. so, when we have it, and i spoke to the head of pfizer, of johnson and johnson. the greatest medical companies in the world.
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wow, this is bad news. president trump is getting this vaccine in record time. by the way, if this were the obama administration, you wouldn't have that vaccine for three years. so, we're going to have a vaccine very soon. maybe even before a special day. but let me tell you, wait, and what they're doing, because they think it is going fast, and if you talk to a lot of your sources, if you have sources -- if you talk to your sources in the fda, you'll see it's going very well. the numbers are looking unbelievably strong, unbelievably good. they're saying, let's disparage the vaccine. that's so bad for this country and the world to say that. i watch kamala's poll numbers drop from 15 to almost 0 and then drop out before she ran in iowa because people didn't like her and i understand why.
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she will never be president, although i have to be careful because obama used to say that about me, so i have to be careful. obviously, joe's not doing too well. but she is talking about disparaging a vaccine. so, that people don't think the achievement was a great achievement. i don't want it for myself. i want something that's going to make people better that people aren't going to get sick with, that includes therapeutics. >> you're saying they're saying it for political purposes. you asserted they'll be on the market by before election. >> no, but you're not quoting me acyrltly. i said vaccines will be on the market by the end of the year but they may be on the market, they may be developed and fully
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developed testing, everything else. we have 30,000 people and one test in highly infected areas. so, we're going to get a good result one way or the other very soon. what i said is by the end of the year. but i think it could be sooner than that. it could be during the month of october. >> i'm saying that for political reasons? >> no, because we want to save a lot of lives. with me, it's the faster the better. if it were somebody else, maybe they would say it politically. if we get the vaccine early, that's a great thing. whether it's politics or not. do benefits endure, if you're able to get things years ahead of schedule, i guess maybe they do. but the most important thing to me is saving lives. go ahead in the back. >> based on your recent tweets -- >> you sound so clear, as
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opposed to everybody else. >> your confused about the 2016 project? and do you object to slavery itself being taught in school? >> no, i want everybody to know everything they can about history. i'm not in agreement of cancel culture. good or bad. if you don't studty the bad t cn happen again. but we grew up with certain history and they're trying to change our history. that's why they wanted to take down our monuments and take down our statues. i saw something the other day, which was horrendous. washington monument, they want to rename it, the d.c. committee. but the d.c. committee is all democrats. abraham lincoln, thomas jefferson. this is the big stuff now. this is the big stuff and they want to rename it? they want to redesignate it?
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they want to take some down? no, we don't do that. never going to happen with me, i guarantee that. i want to wish you a very happy labor day and we're having tremendous success, whether it's on the vaccines, the pandemic, the plague that china should have never let happen. and i just want to wish you a happy labor day. >> all right. so, it's labor day and you just heard from the president of the united states speaking from a location normally reserved for more ceremonial entrance to state dinners. a reminder to everyone, funded by taxpayer dollars, where you have the president making a number of disparaging and just untrue statements, including calling former vice president joe biden, quote, stupid, along with a slew of other lies. and by the way, mr. president,
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it is kamala. kamala harris. abbey phillips, doctor. before we get to his denial of "the atlantic" piece. talking about them smpying on his campaign. the fbi opened an investigation, utilized routine surveillance method to find out what was going on. along the way, they made serious mistakes but there is no evidence biden or obama were ever personally involved in doing something like that. so, that said, gloria, i want to start with you where the article came out alleging that trump referred to fallen soldiers as suckers and losers.
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and that was a piece of everything else alleged in the article, which has been corroborated by us at cnn, and "the new york times" and even fox news and "washington post" but to hear him say, let me pull this verbatim up from -- >> i'm not saying the military is in love with me. the soldiers are. the top people in the pentagon probably aren't bought they want to do nothing but fight wars so that all the people who make bombs and planes and everything else stay happy. >> i would point out those are people he's appointed that he's now driving. and he went out of his way to say there's a person who denied this occurred, this story "the atlantic" has written who worked for kelly. but he went on to talk about
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john mccain in the same way the article said he did, as if he should get credit for not ruining john mccain's funeral. so, he brought the story to life again. and today, i don't know if my colleagues would agree with me, but he seemed to be in a foul mood. he was full of grievance and vit reall and throwing charges out there. for example, brook, and abbey, abbey knows more about this than anyone. that there are 80 million ballots all over the country that have been sent to people unrequested as part of his talking points about how this is a rigged election. so, he did throw a lot of stuff out there. >> no, he did. my note was he went from talking about the dossier in the same breath, then goes to all these mail-in ballots, a mail-in voting. it's like the notion of turning all these conspiracy theories
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into his own campaign platform. >> i think that is the thing i found the most interesting about this press conference. this is labor day. this is supposed to be the unofficial start of the fall campaign. people are getting ready to go actually and cast their ballots in a couple of days in some states and instead of the focus press conference where he's driving home a clear narrative of what he wants them to take away, this press conference was all over the place. it was about this "atlantic" article, china, kamala harris. it was about his conspiracy theories about voter fraud and mail-in ballots. i think this is not the kind of thing that, at this moment, is helpful to the president. he is not focussed and seems to be grasping at a lot of different ways that he thinks he
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can try to get at undermining the biden campaign, even doing this event. just the fact this event is at the white house, rather than in the country on labor day. he's doing it on the -- >> from the people's house. >> that is, i think, the key point of all of this. we didn't hear anything we have not heard from the president before. a lot of lies, a lot of misinformation. a lot of disinformation, frankly. and none of that is new. but i do think what it tells you is the president is still not focussed. they have still not landed on the message. and instead of being on the campaign trail, he's at the white house and it's 45 minutes, an hour of grievance after grievance, after grievance. >> an animal referring to joe biden as stupid. i want to bring jim acosta in, who, if my hearing was correct,
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i heard you shouting, trying to get a question in at the very end. but we've been having this conversation. seems like the president was just in a awful mood. are we in the fifth grade that we're referring to his opponent as stupid from the people's house, using every inch of this white house from the rnc to whatever this was. what did you think of what we just heard? >> just as they uses the white house for the political back drop, he did on the north lawn of the white house. it is very unusual to see the president of the united states give a press conference in that north portico area. i'm not sure it's ever happened, at least not in a long time. and essentially used it as a cammain event. this was a rally, disguised as a news conference. i do think it's somewhat
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surprising he doesn't hold a campaign rally or speech, why he feels he needs to do it from the white house. but getting back to the content said, obviously he is still denying what was reported in the "atlantic" magazine, about disparaging our veterans. but i want to go back to what he was accusing the kamala harris/biden campaign of doing, accusing them of disparaging the vaccine for political reasons and maybe before a special baby and he's clearly done this before. before election day.
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we talked to a number of public health experts inside, outside of the administration. dr. anthony fauci and so on, who have all said consistently, the vaccine will not be available until the owned of the year, widely across the country. so, the president, as abbey was saying, is basically lying to the american people, see if it will hangout there and some people believe in it, that the vaccine will be widely available before election day. all the public health experts have said that's not the case. and dr. anthony fauci said this late last week to us on cnn that he would speak up if he saw any undue political pressure on this process. and that's what i was trying to ask at the end of the news conference. in terms the president throwing fresh produce on his opponent, that's what gave this news conference the sense that, the feeling that this was basically
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a campaign rally at that white house. i suspect when he's not on the road, holding campaign events, he's someone holding events here too. that line for this president no longer exists anymore. >> i think abbey made a great point too. it's go time. it's labor day, two months away from this election and this is-you need have a tight message to sell to the american public. did you get the sense that he was lacking focus? and how might that bode for him? >> i do think he was lacking focus at times and i think it's because he was trying to grasp for the rally speech, rally feeling he wants to have and when he's just in front of a bunch of reporters, trying to ask a question, keeping their masks on, he's not getting the same response from an audience that he wants to get.
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obviously we're not going to sit there and soak up the disinformation and conspiracy theories in the way that other people will at his campaign events. the other thing we should point out is the president is trying to consistently pull the wool over people's eyes that somehow he's had this amazing response to the coronavirus. he once again tried to say the u.s. is leading the world when it comes to the coronavirus. er for it's only leading the world in coronavirus deaths. it's not leading in response the coronavirus. other countries have far surpassed in performance, in terms of getting the virus under control. i think the president is trying to put this false spin out there that somehow he's on top of this and that's why he keeps coming back to this lie, if you want to call it that. no reporter likes to say the president of the united states is lying but this lie that a vaccine is going to be out there available to the american public
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before election day, every responsible public health expert inside the task force and outside the task forces have said that's not going to happen. >> thank you so much for all of this and let me close it out with our doctor. and just listening to the president, i don't want you to talk politics. let's talk safety. let's talk about the vaccine. so, you heard the president, as he was being pushed to the ap reporter and might it be ready for the special day, obviously the election day. if you're just regular american wanting obviously to be healthy, be safe, how will we know if in fact, there is a vaccine that comes out, magically, by the end of this year and maybe before the end of the election, how
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will we know we're safe? >> i would even say the worse thing that could happen to president trump around the vaccine is to have something available. with the vaccine, the first thing you see when you give it to a million people is all the side effects. it takes months and months and months. to determine whether it's working. you have to have a certain amount of disease. account for a 1,001 variables. but tomorrow, 100,000 people got a vaccine and two weeks later, a lot are going to have aches and pains and it will look like a disaster. it might not be. because we won't know efficacy. but the dumbest thing we can do is hurry up the vaccine and only see the side effects, which happens first and not see any benefit at all. so, even if, it's all in his
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mind, a great strategy, i think it's a really misguided strategy. he's going to make people sick with a vaccine and never show anything, no chance. >> i appreciate your candor. thank you so much. i want to thank everyone for chiming in and that whole discussion about the president, as we heard there. as fears grow on college campuses, northeastern university in boston, just cancelled the fall term for 11 students for breaking the rules and they're keeping the 10s of thousands these students paid in tuition. ♪
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welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. president trump just wrapped up the press conference at the white house. look at the numbers. they're on your screen. the virus has now killed more than 189,000 americans. nearly 6.3 million have been infected. and health experts are increasingly worried about a new surge in the weeks ahead. that worry is due in part because of images like these, right? people are at inbeach, at parks, gathering in large groups, parties, not everyone is wearing face coverings and travel numbers from over this weekend show americans are a bit more relaxed, more on the move. tsa says it screened more
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travellers since the pandemic began. and college campuses are becoming the new epicenter for cases. students have been suspended for violating social distancing rules. they have cancelled the fall term for 11 students for gathering in a hotel room. they've banned them, not only from campus classes but they can't do online courses. they will not get a refund on their reported $36,000 tuition. kelly chan is the editor and north chief of the huntington. so, thank you so much for coming on with me. and that's quite a tuition that they're not getting refunded because this is how serious the schools are getting. tell me about the 11, first-year students. my understanding is they were part of the study-abroad program. >> northeastern has what we call
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a nun program. they get to go abroad for their first is semester. a lot of those were travelled because, obviously, in the age of covid, we can't travel and it would put northeastern community in danger. they would set them up at the westin hotel and that's where a majority of the n.u.n. boston students stay. as far as i know from northeastern and covering the 11 students, it was 11 freshman in a hotel room and they caught them and northeastern had them go through, basically an appeal process and they have to be kicked out within 24 hours, unless they test positive for covid-19, otherwise, they'll be in the housing for isolation or quarantine. >> wow. i know social distancing.
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everyone's trying to practice everywhere including on college campuses and it may be hard to get a campus feel. but is this punishment for these 11 students? is it reverberating because of this are you hearing a change of attitude where people are really getting serious about it? >> i think definitely i've heard a lot of chatter among student populations saying one side of the story is university is justified in holding students accountable for their actions and suspending them to keep the community safe. and on the other hand, was this too harsh of a punishment. this was one mistake and freshman put in a very tough situation. we always come to college campuses expecting to make new friends, socialize, and can be fun to want to salvage that college experience. i've heard both narratives among
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the student population, but i think a lot of people feel for the students in that they still have to pay the tuition when the semester hasn't even started yet. >> here's the note from the senior vice chancellor warning, before this happened, quote, current students can expect removal from the community, including the immediate loss of university housing. disciplinary processes will be expedited to move quickly to protect the health and well being of everybody. one health policy expert and a parent with kids in college said what's happening to the studentsalistudents at northeastern was not fair. >> they've been locked up all summer or longer. and when you find out what they did is they gathered together, then let's hope we can all deal with each other with a little more humanity. putting a bunch of people in
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do dormitories and say figure you go out of your room, it's your fault, not ours. i think that's not quite right. >> can any of the students, if they're not sick with covid, can they appeal? >> i believe that every one goes through the appeal process. i'm not currently updated on where they are in that process. as far as i know, in terms of covering that event, i believe every student has an appeal process. >> what a story to be covering at northeastern. kelly chan, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. up next, a new warning that two-thirds of the students could be. we know business keeps moving.
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the coronavirus pandemic is taking a terrible toll on restaurants nation wide, but especially in new york nearly two-thirds, could close, according to the new york restaurant association. for now, he's sticking with his order barring any indoor dining. outdoor dining is allowed but now cuomo and uth orficials face
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a class-action lawsuit from hundreds of restaurant owners who say this ban is ruining their businesses. tom, calichio, i know this is so incredibly personal to you. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> some spots that have been open for decades are closing. i think of not only the chefs, the staff, the winery, the wine growers, the whole chain. so, when you hear two-thirds of restaurants could be closed in new york, what's your reaction? >> we're talking about 8 million people losing their jobs. independent restaurants employ about 11 million people. when you factor in the fisherman, farmers and all the
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ancillary numbers, they're low. there are other surveys that suggest maybe 80% will close nation wide. so, we're looking at an extinction of restaurants right now. and unfortunately, our government is not stepping up. we have the restaurants act. it has support in the house and senate. we're closing in on 200 signatures, our cosponsors in the house. about 30% of the senate has signed on and yet we can't get a stimulus bill passed. >> for people who don't understand what the restaurants act is, explain the meat of it. and obviously you want it to pass to help all these millions of people to keep their jobs. >> sure, it's $120 billion bill. it goes to restaurants not publicly traded and restaurants that have fewer than 20 locations and it's income replacement.
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it will come in, go to pay rent, pay our suppliers, keep people employed to get through the period until we have a vaccine and give us cushion when we get open. i think the same survey you referenced, suggests the restaurants that remain open, that 90% are saying they won't be profitable for the next year and lose money for the next year. >> i'm just sitting here thinking because everyone is having to eat outside and it's cold in new york in five seconds and at the moment, no one can serve indoors. as a new yorker, have you had conversations with the governor. what do you think of the lawsuit to get indoor dining restored? >> i think eventually governor cuomo is going to have to install -- restore indoor dining. i believe right now that the goal is to keep the spread low so kids can get back to school.
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and so, listen, it's -- i think the governor is between a rock and a hard place. i want to see my restaurants open. but on the other hand, i also want to make sure people are safe. indoor dining is going to put more people at risk. er for it-- it's as simple as that. right now i have seating outdoors and we're doing about 30% of our normal business right now. eventually it's go took have to go indoors but i think the governor is waiting as long as possible before that happens. >> you founded grammarcy tavern, built up the mini empire kraft restaurants. and pandemic hit especially hard in march. i know you had to layoff a number of your employees. i think you said 30% of your normal business right now. what else have you had to go
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through, for people watching at hominidsing, h home, understanding how this has hit you, tom. >> we did bring some of the employees back. the hard part is making sure people are safe. i'm torn between wanting to go full throttle and get back opened and making sure my employees, who are coming on public transportation, that they're going to stay healthy. i don't want to put someone at risk if they don't want the come in. the $600 federal unemployment has to happen right away. some of those employee i haven't brought back are really struggling. it's been tough knowing so many people are out of work. it's hard when you think about the amount of work and time and effort that, not only myself but everyone that works for me has
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put in and it's really disheartening. but if our federal government steps up, we can actually save the restaurant industry and come back stronger. we just need help. >> i'm sure members of congress are watching and hopefully they're paying attention and we can step up and help all the millions of people who, in new york alone, are effected by all this. thank you so much. >> happy labor day. coming up next former employees of the post master general said he pressured them to donate to republicans and reimbursed them. it only takes a second for an everyday item to become dangerous.
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say they were pressured to donate to republican candidates and reimbursed through bonuses. dejoy testified before congress that he never repaid executives for making donations to the trump campaign. amy gardner is from "the washington post" and one of the reporters who broke the story. so amy, thank you so much for coming on with me. and you tell me, what do the employees say happened? >> well, so we talked, tried to talk to every employee we could find through our reporting and we wound up speaking to more than a dozen and of those we spoke to we learned of two different sort of types of behavior concerning to people. first were people who felt pressured as you noted, who felt that louis dejoy was keen on getting as many of his employees to donate to his favorite kae candidates as possible, through 2014 when he sold the company. but then we also spoke to two former employees of new breed
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logistics who say that not only people were pressured to give donations to republican candidates, but that they were then reimbursed at mr. dejoy's instruction with additional bonuses. >> a spokesperson said the company followed campaign laws. but this report is obviously sparked calls for an investigation by the north carolina attorney general. that is the state where dejoy's business is headquartered. what campaign violations could he face. >> it is illegal to hide the identity of the actual donor. and that is what this would be if these allegations are true. it is known as a conduit contribution or a straw man, straw donor contribution. meaning you try to exceed the limits set by statute both in state law and federal law by asking others to give and then paying them back for what they
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gave. and so that is the main infraction that could be investigated. the statute of limitations has expired on the federal elements and some of the campaigns that he was encouraging his employees to give to were federal candidates, rudy giuliani back in 2007 and 2008, running for president, john mccain, thom tillis, rich burr also u.s. senator from north carolina but he also encouraged to donate to pat mccory, that is at a state office and that one could be subject to investigation by state prosecutors. and that is an investigation that would start with the north carolina state board of elections, which actually has subpoena power. so they could ask the new company that bought new breed known as xpo logistics, they could subpoena payroll records to get to the bottom of this. >> you'll be watching if and when that happened.
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