she leaves behind three children and her husband of 48 years. may they rest in peace, and may their memories being a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront"next, trump on tape, the president in his own words admitting he deliberately misled the american people and down played the coronavirus, his words. how many lives did that cost? plus the white house in full on damage control, pointing fingers. why did trump's advisers allow him to speak to a journalist whose last book was so damaging in the first place. he is the reporter republicans to turn to, now he says trump is dead wrong about voter fraud. let's go "outfront." good evening to you all. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the president in his own words revealing he knew a lot more about the deadly pandemic back

in february than he ever let on. not only that, he down played the dangers of coronavirus from the start. that is his word, not mine. these are stunning admissions by the president of the united states. so, i want to play them for you. first, the president, back in february -- that's what you're going hear now. back in february, president trump speaking to veteran reporter bob woodward. >> and so what was president xi saying yesterday? >> we were talking mostly about the virus. and i think he's got it in good shape but it's a troubling situation. >> indeed. >> it goes through air, bob. that's always tougher than the touch. the touch, you don't have to touch things. but the air, you just breathe the air. that's how it's passed. so, that's a very tricky one. that's a very delicate one. it's also more deadly than your -- even your strenuous flus. people don't realize we lose

25,000, 30,000 people a year here. who would ever think that? and then i say is that the same thing? this is more deadly. this is five per -- this is 5% versus 1% and less than 1%. so, this is deadly stuff. >> more deadly than the flu. by massive margins he's saying at the time. that's amazing. president of the united states never told us that, never told the american people that. 31 days after that conversation with bob woodward, he did have this to say, tweeting on march 9th, six months ago from tonight, here he is, last year 37,000 americans died from the common flu. it averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. nothing is shut down. life and the economy go on. at this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of coronavirus with 22 deaths. think about that.

think about that. she knew that to be completely wrong in terms of the implication he was making. this is deadly. this is deadly stuff. this isn't the flu. that's what he tells woodward 31 days before he tweets that. he told the exact opposite of what he thought to be the truth to the american people. so, he knew and that means he lied. it was a lie that put american lives at risk. why? why did he do it? >> it's turning out it's not just old people, bob, but just today and yesterday some startling tracks came out, it's not just old people, plenty of young people. >> so, give me a moment of talking to somebody going through this with fauci or somebody who kind of, it caused a pivot in your mind. because it's clear just from what's on the public record that you went through a pivot on this to, oh, my god, the gravity is

almost inexplicable and unexplainable. >> well, i think, bob, really, to be honest with you -- >> sure, i want you to be. >> -- i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down. >> yes, sir. >> because i don't want to create a panic. >> the interview was from march 19th. now, at that time, the u.s. death toll was 265. it is now almost 200,000. so, i just want to be really clear about one thing here because you can hear the president trying to twist around on this. not wanting to create panic is very different than lying directly to the american people about how dangerous something is, right? you tell them the truth. you tell them it's going to be bad. we're going to get through it together. we're going to get through this. you don't tell them it's not a problem, it's not as bad as the flu when for a full month you thought it to be at least ten times worse than the flu by his own numbers as shared by bob woodward. trying to prevent a pandemic is

going to be the line of defense. >> i'm a cheerleader for our country. i love our country. i don't want people to be frightened. i don't want to create panic. the last thing you want to do is create a panic in a country. the best word is panic. we don't want to have to show panic. >> this is about telling people the truth, that they can get sick, they can die. the numbers he had showed he thought it was ten times worse than the flu, not to tell people the flu is so much worse. that is a lie. had trump been honest with the american people about what he knew, perhaps tens of thousands of people and lives could have been saved, right? the governor of new jersey saying they would have shut down earlier. things would have happened differently and earlier. former head of the centers for medicare and medicaid services. trump was not honest and again and again from the time this country started shutting down, that dishonesty is so stark.

watch. >> and we're prepared and we're doing a great job with it. it will go away. just stay calm. it will go away. >> there are certain sections in the country that are in phenomenal shape already. other sections are coming online. other sections are going down. it'll go away at some point. it'll go away. it play flare up and may not flare up. we'll have to see what happens. and the crisis is being handled. and we are, likewise, getting under control. they are dying, that's true. and it is what it is. but that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. it's under control as much as you can control it. >> and now the white house tonight trying to rewrite history, as they defend the president. >> the president has never lied to the american public on covid. the president never down played the virus. >> expect for he said on tape that he did. so, that's an absurd thing to

say. and the tapes don't lie. the president, though, did. kaitlan collins is "outfront" life outside the white house. was the white house caught off guard by these tapes? it seems from kayleigh's comments there that are counterfactual, that they were not prepared. >> reporter: they knew he was doing the book. they knew that he had sat down with bob woodward many times to talk to him. they didn't know there was going to be audio played of the president's comments and of course they didn't know he was going to be on those audio tapes admitting that he intentionally down played the virus to the public, when behind closed doors he knew the severity of it and what was really going on. so, that was caused kind of a scramble inside the white house today when these excerpts started coming out and the white house didn't have a copy of the book. even though the president and several of his aides sat down extensively with bob woodward, they weren't sure what the book was going to say. the president had been asking people in recent weeks based on our reporting what the book was going to look like, how it was

going to turn out for him. that's really, erin, the primary reason why the president sat down with bob woodward. he thought he could outmaneuver him. he thought the book could make him look better than the last woodward book. that's why he wanted to cooperate with this book because he did not last time around. now he's on tape saying he did intentionally down play the pandemic and knew it was an airborne disease primarily yet held six rallies after he made those comments indoors before masks were even close to being a thing here in the united states. so, what's the white house is dealing with now, the blame over who it was that let the president sit down with woodward this many times, say this kind of stuff on the record with a familiared author who, of course, is known to chronicle white houses and bad decisions that they have made. that is the blame going around inside the west wing now. i think what's ultimately important to remember is it was the president who made this

decision to sit down with bob woodward and to make these comments and there was no really stopping from him on any of those aides on whether or not he was going to sit down and talk to him. >> thank you very much kaitlan collins. i understand the president could call bob woodward up at night, talk to him, give him his personal cell phone and now we're hearing what happened on those calls. >> kristen lost her father to coronavirus in june. i'm sorry for your raw loss. you spoke at the democratic national convention, and you blamed the president for this horrible loss. you said your father's only pre-existing condition was trusting donald trump. so, when you hear his words to bob woodward, how does that feel to you? >> i am so enraged. his words confirm that the president intentionally lied to the american public about the severity of this crisis. it's undeniable and it's

inexcusable. >> so, your father went to a karaoke bar with friends in late may. i know you said you believe that's when he got sick. june 11th, he got sick, symptoms, hospitalized, on a ventilator by june 26th and died just four days after that. as all of that was happening, the president was telling the american people that the virus would disappear, that even though he's telling bob woodward he knows that it's ten times deadlier than the flu. that's what he thought at the time. do you think things would have changed for your father if the president had said what he said to bob woodward to the american people as early as february and then consistently? >> absolutely. my dad was a follower of president trump. he trusted him. and the president betrayed him and tens of thousand of other people across the united states. listen, in late may, when the

state of arizona was opening up, i was telling my dad, look, dad, it's still not safe. and my dad's retorte to me was, well, kristen, i hear what you're saying, but why would the president and the governor say it's safe if it's not safe? i couldn't compete with the lies from the white house. and because of that, my father passed away. it is inexcusable. >> kristen, nothing can change what happened at this point to your father. nothing can make this right for you, right? this is now changed the trajectory of your entire life. what would you want to hear or see from president trump though right now? >> the president needs to resign. he has shown that he is unfit to lead this country and that he does not care about the public health of americans. that is only the sensible solution at this point in time given that we have this spoking gun evidence that he knew about

the severity of the crisis and he chose to mislead the american public and lie. he needs to resign. >> kristen, thank you very much for talking to me. and again, i am so sorry. i am. i know that june is just like yesterday to you. thank you. >> thank you. dr. sanjay gupta joins me now and dr. jonathan reiner, director of the cardiac cardiac cath lab at gw. when you hear kristen's words, she was telling her father don't do this and his response was why would the president and the governor say it's fine when it isn't. i trust them. this would have been very different, she thinks, had the president said the truth. do you think things would have been different, sanjay, if he had said what he said to bob woodward in february, in march, to the public?

>> absolutely, erin. and that was a heartbreaking interview. i mean, i can't even imagine, you know, i've known people who have died of this disease. i've taken care of some of these patients. i've met with their families. i mean, it is heartbreaking to hear kristen describe it like that but totally understandable. look, there's no question that things could have been different. we just have to look around the world. most countries around the world, to see how things may have been -- south korea, the first patient was diagnosed the same day first patient was diagnosed here. they've had fewer than 350 people die. i'm not just saying this to sort of, you know, mock our strategy. this was a failed strategy, and people paid for it with their lives. you know, there was a report that came out of columbia. this was in may. we can show the numbers here. basically said, look, if they had acted just a week earlier at that point, how many lives could have been saved? take a look. 36,000 lives could have been

saved just acting one week earlier, erin, two weeks earlier, 84% of deaths could have been prevented. so, you know, i can understand her frustration. a lot of people who are watching tonight, their frustration, their anger. because, you fauknow, the presit said this on february 7th that he knew this was five times deadlier than the flu and he had information presumably that most people don't have access to. so, he knew this on the 26th. when i asked him about it, he said the exact opposite, that flu was much worse, as you know, erin. it could have been a very different picture. >> just to be clear, when you say 84% fewer deaths, i want everyone to understand, we're about to hit 200,000 deaths. so you would have 30,000 instead of 200,000 just to put that number a different way. soeb sobering and awful reality. bob reiner is speaking ut about his book. i want to play what he told "60

minutes." here's that clip. >> this is the tragedy, a president of the united states has a duty to warn. the public will understand that, but if they get the feeling that they're not getting the truth, then you're going down the path of deceit and cover up. >> dr. reiner, how much damage did the president do by lying? i feel lying is the right word, not misleading, because he's saying what the truth was as he knew it to bob woodward and saying the exact opposite to the american people at the same time. >> let me start by saying that i'm so sorry for kristen's loss. but i completely agree with her. the president should resign. he's failed the public look, many of us have wondered for a long time whether our catastrophic response was simply incompetence or how much malfeasance was in that. now we know that from the very beginning, the president knew

that this was a lethal virus, at least five times as lethal as the worse flu. we know that the president knew this was airborne. he told that to bob woodward on february 8th. we also know that he was briefed a week before that and told that the chinese was seeing this in large numbers in asymptomatic people. but yet months went on before the president embraced masks. not only that, his surgeon general discouraged people a month later from wearing masks. if a tornado was coming to your town and the mayor of that town or the governor of that state told you it was just going to be windy, don't worry about it, and it destroyed your house and killed your family, you would want to know why you weren't warned. a president was coming to the united states in january and the president of the united states knew how lethal it was and failed to warn the public. if you're trying to understand why his supporters haven't

talken this seriously, it's because he told them not to. he's failed the public. the president of the united states should resign. >> so, sanjay, you know, okay, what dr. reiner just said there, bob woodward, february 7, he says to bob, quote, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. that's a tricky one. we remember back then publicly there was a lot of discussion over how it was spread and it was airborne. he knew it to be airborne. he's talking about that. he went ahead and had indoor rallies with thousands of people. no masks. no social distancing. herman cain went to one of them. died afterwards w. e don't know if that's where he got it, but he certainly could have. i don't know what the right word is to use here, sanjay. first is irresponsible the right word. that may not be appropriate here. if he knows how it's passed and has rallies, he knows people could die. >> yeah. i mean, that is -- i don't know the right word either, erin.

i think for a long time i was wondering the same thing. did he just not know? was he just ignoring this? it's one thing to minimize it, but was he minimizing it because he didn't know and didn't believe in the severity of this? i really didn't know. and frankly people's motivations, maybe they're not as important as what the outcome is. the outcome is we've had a failed response in this country regardless. now i think the thing that struck me was that he knew. that's what i'm really taking away from this. on february 7th, again to have said that, yeah, this is five times deadlier than the flu. we know the flu kills tens of thousands of people. he knew that. he had just spoken to people in china. we know there was data coming out. maybe they had access to data we didn't have at that point. he is the president. he knew. not only did he not act on it. he's still not acting on it. a book like this comes out and we start talking about this as

if it's a retrospective. we're still in the middle of this. >> yeah. >> and there's been a significant, significant loss of trust as a result. >> and loss of life. thank you both so much. and next major finger pointing at the white house over the stunning interviews with bob woodward. who thought this was a good idea? plus according to woodward, trump's national security adviser warned the president in late january that the virus would be the, quote, biggest national security threat of his presidency. but then robert o'brien told cnn a very different account. and a man who spent his career trying to give republicans an advantage to win is taking on trump. he's "outfront." ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals,

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that, you know, people in trump orbit like to do which is tape people when the other person doesn't know. he knew. and he said it without hesitation despite concerns from several white house aides. how did this even happen, john? >> i think it has its roots in bob woodward's last book two years ago "fear." that book depicted the president as dangerously incompetent, showed aide mass nip lating, tricking him, trying to prevent him from doing things. he expressed regret that he had not participated and blamed his for keeping that information from him. this time trump decided he was going to be large and in charge. nobody was going to stop him from doing these interviews even if he had to call from the residence late at night. and the astounding thing, even for someone who always over estimates his ability to persuade other people of what he was saying, is he seemed to think he was going to charm and

win over woodward by giving him the inside scoop of what he really knew about the coronavirus while he was publicly down playing it without evidently giving thought to the fact that that would come to be seen as the kind of criminal negligence we're talking about today, directly connected to the loss of tens of thousands of american lives. >> dana, it does seem -- having known the president for many years, he does like to cultivate that kind of personal connection with people, right? so, he gives bob woodward his personal cell phone number, right? and no doubt, he felt that that would make bob woodward feel so important that somehow it would indear him to him, right? >> that's right. our colleague who's gotten the goods on this woodward book before anybody, she has a new story out talking about just this. and this of course comes from the woodward book. it's not going to be out until next week. going through the fact that he,

the president, even went to the point of having props on his desk in order to try to impress bob woodward. and woodward writes that he's interviewed multiple presidents in the oval office. and when he does that, when he's historically done that, they sit on a couch next to the fireplace and have a conversation. but this president wanted to show him things on the resolute desk. even gave him a poster of the president and kim jong-un, showed him pictures from the dmz that the president went to between north and south korea. and so the fact that woodward writes about that and not just kind of the showman part of the president and not just the content of the really unbelievable things that we've heard about coronavirus and other aspects of the book i think is very telling and answers the question about what the president was trying to do in giving woodward such access to his thoughts.

>> it does give such a window into the president. jim, woodward also writes a former defense secretary jim mattis and his concern about trump. we know when he resigned he wrote that unbelievably sering letter. he says that mattis repeatedly went to the washington national cathedral to pray for the country under trump's leadership. i want to read according to woodward in the book. here's the conversation. this is not good, mattis said. maybe at some point we're going to have to stand up and speak out. there may be a time we have to take collective action. well, possibly, coats said. yeah, there may, james said, he's dangerous and unfit. secretary mattis, revered general, and he references collective action coming from a general. what do you think that means?

>> at a minimum it sounds like blocking the president's agenda. possibly it could be going so far as finding a way to remove him. it's conceivable. it wouldn't the first time. nikki haley recounts john kelly and tillerson coming to her and talking about the blocking the president's agenda, possibly working toward res moving him. i want wouldn't be the first time. keep in mind the pattern here. let's not take any of this in isolation. here you have mattis. we know from john bolton's book he doesn't believe this president to be competent. you've heard kelly and tillerson, by the account of nikki haley, question his competence, talk about resisting his agenda. i've interviewed a number of people on the record for my own book who talk about the need to block this president's agenda because it was a danger to the country's national security interests. so, what you are left to question is do you believe all

those people, former generals, stall warts of the republican party, or do you believe the president's claim that they're all never trumpers and not to be believed. there is a pattern here of people working for him at the highest levels, doubting his competence. by the way, the moment described in the book with mattis going to the national cathedral is specifically about north korea and his concerns at the time that the president was going to take this country to war unwittingly. and it reminds you what a dangerous time that was. >> it was. and of course now still is. all please stay with me. you know, bob woodward writes that trump's national security adviser warned trump that the virus could be the biggest national security threat of his presidency. so, we're going to talk about this next because what was trump's response when he heard that? >> do you remember that? >> no, no. >> you don't? >> no, i don't. no, i don't. i'm sure if he said it, i'm sure he said it. nice guy. >> plus the white house says it wants a winner declared on

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breaking news, president trump was reportedly warned in january by his national security adviser robert o'brien that the coronavirus posed a serious threat to his presidency and the country according to recording obtained by cnn of journalists speaking to bob woodward. >> your new national security adviser o'brien said you on january 28th, mr. president, this is going -- this virus is going to be the biggest national security threat to your presidency. do you remember that? >> no, no. >> you don't? >> no, i don't. no, i don't. i'm sure if he said it, you know, i'm sure he said it. nice guy. >> sort of giving up there, i'm sure he said it, nice guy. o'brien told cnn in a spring interview -- again these time stamps are really important because with bob woodward he's talking back in january 28 is when he warns about this being the biggest threat.

but then in the spring, o'brien tells cnn, quote, initially no one understood the magnitude of the crisis. everyone is back with me. so, dana, o'brien tells trump, you know, something about the virus, right? saying this is going to be the biggest national security threat to your presidency according to bob woodward. that's on january 28th. in the spring, months later, tells cnn, no one understood the magnitude of the crisis. it sure sounds like he did. and what he's doing in terms of saying one thing privately and an entirely different thing to the american public is much like trump. how deep does this go at the white house? >> there's a lot of cya happening or there was at the time. this is what you're referring to. robert o'brien spoke to our colleagues. they went in because they were initially doing a story about the fact that there were a lot of people telling us that there was o'brien's lack of experience

and his feel to trump that was causing some of the problem when it comes to the administration's response. and that was part of his response to that, saying, well, no one really knew how bad it was. so, he was down playing his own abilities there in order to protect the president of the united states. if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about the dysfunction, i don't know what does. >> so, jim, in that same briefing, woodward reports that o'brien's deputy to president trump, the deputy was there. warns the president that the coronavirus could be as bad as the 1918 influenza pandemic, 675,000 americans died then. obviously much greater share relative to population than that even seems. but less than two weeks lawsuiter, after he get this is dire warning to fr his national security and deputy national security adviser, he goes out publicly and says this to the nation's governors. >> the virus that we're talking about having to do, you know, a lot of people think that goes away in april with the heat, as

the heat comes in. typically that will go away in april. we're in great show though. we have 12 cases, 11 cases. and many of them are in gad sha good shape now. >> so, jim, he's -- obviously that's how he wants people to see this, right? at that time. when he's being told by his national security adviser this is the greatest threat and it could be like the 1918 flu. he goes out and says we have 12 cases. i mean -- >> listen, this is a ""wizard of oz"" moment, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain. the facts are clear. we have statements by the president saying this is not a big deal, you have nothing to worry about, while he knew and his senior most advisers knew that wasn't the case, that it was very serious, it was a big deal. so, the argument is that, well, we didn't want to panic people. here's the problem. by saying that the heat was

going to make it disappear, you don't have to worry about wearing masks. this was not a big deal, et cetera, it encouraged behaviors here which helped spread the outbreak, right? so, you know, you could claim that this was about tamping down panic, but it had a real public health effect. and that's the issue here. there have been studies done that look at that. people look at his guidance here and didn't take precautions. there's a hard result of that. the president knew it was serious. he said it wasn't. that is disinformation by definition. >> right, right, it is. now we don't just have the public record of him saying one thing to the american public. we have the tapes now of mr. woodward. john, woodward also quotes jared kushner and says jared kushner was unliked by many in trump's cabinet. kushner says to woodward, the most dangerous people around the

president are overconfident idiots, which woodward interprets to mean specifically jim mattis, rex tillerson, and gary cohn. woodward also reports kushner was disliked by many in trump's cabinet. what do you make of kushner's role in all of this? >> well, first of all, let's leave aside the fact that jared kushner is calling other people overconfident in the white house when he entered a senior job without knowing much of anything about government and public policy. but i think the evidence is that all those overconfident idiots that jared kushner says they got rid of have left a white house staff without the gumption and strength to stand up to the president and apply their own independent judgment. if you want the evidence, consider that picture in front of the st. john's church earlier this summer after the administration had used a federal force to clear out a

mostly peaceful demonstrator so the president could walk across with the bible. there you had the tableau, mark meadows, now the white house chief of staff was the fringe player on the far right of the house. kayleigh mcenany came out today and said the president never down played the virus after we heard tape of the president down playing the virus and i'm continuing to down play the virus. bill barr who's done the president's bidding, robert o'brien, that was a portrait of people who lacked wisdom to understand that that was a disastrous mistake or the strength to prevent it from happening or stop themselves or keep themselves out of it even. >> so, dana, the president talked to woodward about his views of white privilege and the advantages in life that trump had. take a listen to that. >> but let me ask you this.

we share one thing in common. we're white privileged who -- and my father was a lawyer and a judge in illinois and we know what your dad did. and do you have any sense that that privilege has isolated and put you in a cave to a certain extent as it put me and i think lots of white privileged people in a cave and that we have to work our way out of it to understand the anger and the pain, particularly black people feel in this country? do you see -- >> no. you really drank the kool-aid, didn't you. listen to you, wow. no, i don't feel that at all. >> that is very consistent, dana, with his public comments.

>> yeah. and woodward was trying to give the president cover by saying that he, woodward, also had hs a privileged life, not just now that he's famous but growing up. and the president didn't bite. he was trying to get him to try to come to the idea that there is a reckoning going on, that people like them don't understand, don't have an understanding of what it has been like for the last almost 300 years -- 400 years in this country to be black. and he wouldn't go there. >> all right. thank you all very much. and next, the top lawyer that republicans turn to on elections to win. he says trump's claim of voter fraud do not add up, and he's going to explain exactly why. in a story we first brought you, a doctor accused of sexually assaulting dozens of women, including andrew yang's wife, now facing federal charges.

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new tonight, the white house saying it wants a winner declared in the presidential election on election night. >> we want election night to look like is a system that's fair, a situation where we know who the president of the united states is on election night. that's how the system is supposed to work. >> of course from watching american history it did not work that way and it is extremely slim odds we would have any idea who wins on election night because of expanded mail-in voting. so many people because of the pandemic are voting by mail and those ballots don't start to be counted until election day. the white house knows all of this. and this comes as a major republican lawyer says it will lead to voter fraud. "outfront" is ben ginsburg. he spent 38 years representing

republicans on voting fraud and other election issues including gorge w. bush further recount in florida. you have an op-ed in the "washington post." you write the president's words look like less like sincere concern and more like transactional hypocrisy designed to provide an electoral advantage. the truth is that after decades of looking for illegal voting, there's no proof of widespread fraud. we're going to see more voting by mail than ever before, so that will be different. but do you come to the same conclusion that widespread fraud is just an absurd allegation? >> i've been part of republican election day operations for the last four decades looking for that very fraud. so far there has been a few smatterings of fraud, but no widespread fraud.

so, therefore to make allegations that elections, the bedrock of our democracy, were somehow rigged or fraudulent on such scaly evidence is beyond the pail in terms of that bedrock foundation of the country. >> the president has said the only way they can take this election away from us is if it's rigged and it will be the most rigged election in history. he's using that word constantly. he has repeatedly encouraged his supporters to try to vote twice, both by mail and in person. here he is. >> so, let them send it in and let them go vote. and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. send in your early ballot and go and make sure that ballot and tabulated or counted. and if it's not counted, vote.

go to your mail-in place and see whether or not your mail-in vote has been tabulated or counted. if it has not been counted, vote. >> so, saying you can't trust the mail-in at all, so go vote twice which would be cataclysmic to the system. what do you say to him? >> it's wrong on the basic fundamentals and he should probably have a chat with his supporter, the attorney general of georgia, who today announced he would prosecute up to president told people to do. so this is a republican attorney general saying voting in person after you've already submitted an absentee is a felony yet the president is urging supporters to do that. it puts them in a really bad position. >> so, you know, what you're saying tonight all makes sense.

as i said, the president has continually said that if he loses, it is rigged. here he is. >> i don't want to see a crooked election. this election will be the most rigged election in history. this whole thing with this mail in ballot, that's a rigged election waiting to happen. it's rigged and everyone knows it. >> the only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election. >> what's your response when he says that? >> if you're going to make charges of that about the elections, you have to have some proof. and it's the complete lack of proof that is so distressing. there is a lot of experience in the country with absentee voting. there is also mangling of terms in his explanation but basically, the wide spread absentee balloting problems that

he maintains are there just haven't been found not by alegions of republican election lawyers looking for them. not by law enforce 7cement agen. there are a few random prosecutions but that's all. again, if you're going to criticize the basic bedrock of our elections and their reliability, you have to produce some proof. so that proof has not been forthcoming yet, and hopefully, if he's really got it, it will be and it will be corrected before the election. i don't expect to find it, though. >> certainly as of this point, to your point, there has been absolutely none. thank you very much. i appreciate your time coming on tonight. >> thanks, erin. next, the doctor accused of sexual assaulting andrew yang's wife with dozens of other women now facing federal charges. the reason let's just be honest, she had the courage to speak out and she speaks out tonight.

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tonight a step towards justice. we first told you about accusations of sexual assault at the hands of an ob/gyn at columbia university earlier this year. tonight that man has been indicted. the reason his story gained public attention now is because of evelyn yang, the wife of former presidential candidate andrew yang. she says he sexual assaulted her in 2017 when she was switch months pregnant. yang spoke out to dana bash about her assault for the first time in an interview that aired here on "out front". >> i was confused and realized what was happening and then i just kind of froze like a deer in headlights, just frozen. i knew it was happening. i remember trying to fix my eyes on a spot on the wall, and just

trying to avoid seeing his face as he was assaulting me. >> was -- >> just waiting for it to be over. >> that courage enabled many other women to come forward, and now charges. finally. "outfront" dana bash. tell me more about this. this is a major development in a case that, you know, this to a lot of people, this had gone away. not now. >> it had. and evelyn yang's goal in what you just saw was making it so that it doesn't go away and he was taken into custody this morning in new jersey. he was indicted on six counts of enticement and inducement to travel to engage in illegal sex acts. prosecutors accused him of abusing dozens of female

patients including multiple minors over more than a decade. this was the indictment said under the guides of conducting proported gynecology and obstetrics. he sometimes used free birth control to entice his victims to come back at frequent intervals to sexual abuse them. now, the sdny called hadden a predator in a white coat and asking for any victims or co-workers to come forward and contact the fbi if they have any information about hadden. >> it's very clear that had evelyn yang not spoken to you and done that this would not have happened because after that, people came forward. you spoke to evelyn yang today after these charges were announced. she knows what happened, her role. what did she say? >> she did. she provided a statement to me. she thanked the attorney's

office of the southern district of new york for bringing charges and said they were long over due. the reason that she and others were so frustrated is that hadden avoided jail. you remember from a report this year he got a sweet heart plea deal with the manhattan district attorney. yang also told us that the physician abused dozens of women including minors under the guides of practicing medicine that should not be walking free. she said i hope that this action leads to institutions like the hospital, dr. hadden worked at for decades to take complaints of assault and abuse seriously immediately as opposed to ignoring them. and i should say that since evelyn yang revealed to us earlier this year that hadden sexual assaulted her while she was pregnant, you mentioned this, 110 women are involved in a civil suit against colombia university where dr. hadden worked. i should say colombia denied allegations in the civil suit