woodward. in those tapes, the president admits that back in early february, he wanted to quote play down the dangers of the coronavirus and then he ticked through the details of how contagious and deadly the virus is. that is more than a month before the white house's first official call to stay at home on march 16th. >> now it's turning out it's not just old people, bob, but just today and yesterday some startling facts came out. it's not just older -- >> yeah, exactly. >> older people, but plenty of young people. >> so -- so give me a moment of talking to somebody, going through this with fauci or somebody who kind of it caused a pivot in your mind because it's clear just from what's -- what's on the public record that you went through a pivot on this to oh, my god, the gravity is

almost inexplicable and unexplainable. >> well, i think, bob, really to be honest with you -- >> sure, i want you to. >> i wanted to -- i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down. because i don't want to create a panic. >> yes. >> now, just days -- a day after woodward's recordings went public, joe biden has released a campaign ad, blasting the president for the death toll which has surpassed 190,000 people. the president is scrambling to deflect attention elsewhere, sticking was what defense that he was trying to avoid a panic. here he was on fox news. >> i want to show a calmness. i'm the leader of the country. i can't be jumping up and down and scaring people. i don't want to scare people. >> he didn't want to scare people or create a panic? this of course is the president who speaks of caravans of immigrants invading the border, of stock markets crashing if

he's not in office, of suburbs disappearing if leftist demonstrators are left to run amok. panic and fear is what he peddles and the one time he said he wanted to avoid it, it has enraged the daughter of mark urquiza, a trump supporter who died of coronavirus in june. kristin said, my father didn't panic. instead he died. kaitlan collins is at the white house and kaitlan, the white house was sidelined when these audio recordings came out yesterday. they were bowled over by this and now you're hearing that aides are pointing fingers at each other? >> yep. they certainly did not know they were going to be recordings of what the president had told bob woodward and they did not know the extent of what he had told him and how often he had been speaking to bob woodward. that's something even the vice president says he was unaware of, briana.

mike pence only saw bob woodward once in the west wing and did not know about the other conversations that the president had with him. bob woodward writes that some of the calls were late at night and none of the staff was around him when he was revealing this information to woodward and it did cause a lot of blame in the west wing yesterday. specifically who let the president speak to bob woodward this much and now we have to deal with the damaging statements that the president has made, in his own words on audio. but of course ultimately, briana, that lies with the president himself who made the decision to sit down with woodward to talk to him extensively after not doing so for the first book because he thought it would be more beneficial if he did it the second time around and now he's playing defense and while we can hear he admitted to bob woodward that the coronavirus was very dangerous, that it could kill people and it was spreading

very, very easily. those are things that the president is going to face questions about when he comes on at 3:00. this is not a briefing that was initially on the schedule. because the president is leaving to go to michigan for a rally and now he decides he wants to speak to reporters beforehand after staying behind closed doors for the rest of the day. >> all right, kaitlan, that's an in an hour. thank you so much. i want to open up this conversation now. we have cnn's special correspondent jamie gangel who obtained the audio recordings and we have cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta and david chalian. what response are you hearing from lawmakers? >> well, crickets. i mean, for a while they were just avoiding us. then thanks to our colleague manu raju who has been running all over the place and tracking them down t most frequent answer

you hear is i haven't read the book yet. translation -- maybe they haven't read the book yet. it's not out, but they have heard the president's own words. they have heard these audio recordings of the interview. they don't want to comment on it. the closest anyone got was mitt romney who said when he was asked about it, he said i think we're always better leveling with the american public. it doesn't sound ideal to me. but for the most part, they're avoiding the subject. >> sanjay, to you. i want to thank you for a question you asked of the president that was so important because it reveals now what he was saying publicly versus what he was saying privately. what he knew even earlier three weeks before you asked that question in february and i wonder in light of that how you think the public might have changed their response?

>> look, that was pretty shocking to hear yesterday when i first heard that report from jamie. the idea that, you know, the president knew about it on the 14th and he had a significant amount of detail that he knew. he used the comparison, five times as deadly as the flu. i was going through some of the notes, some of the literature was coming out of the medical journals, that's where i was getting my information out of china and that wasn't well known. so clearly he was hearing from the people on the ground in china. perhaps the president in china, who knows? but he had a significant amount of information. he clearly had consolidated it and he was sharing it in that interview that jamie played with bob woodward. as you mentioned, three weeks later, i asked that same question. and he says, no, the flu is far worse. which is exactly the opposite. right? and it nagged at me, was he just

not -- did he just not know, was this not -- was this a lack of being briefed, but the shock is he definitely knew and he told me the opposite thing and if he had acted sooner there's no question -- talk to my public health official in the country, there's no question that infections would have been prevented and lives would have been saved. >> yeah. i mean, he lied to you, sanjay and he lied to us and we needed a straight answer on that very important question. i wonder, david, looking at now what we know and it's in tapes if it changes anything for anybody as we're approaching this election? >> it's such a good question, and we know so much of the electorate is already locked in. there's not a large bloc of moveable viewers. i ask myself every time when one of the controversies erupts around donald trump, so what new information is being given to voters now that they didn't have? i don't know that we learn a ton new here about donald trump and

his character that isn't already out there. but here's the difference and why i think this has such resonance. unlike other controversies, this one is the president clearly lying to the american people about the issue that is of most concern to them and that's in front of every hour of their daily life right now. so this is not something that just folks in washington will -- right? everybody is dealing with this in some way whether you're concerned about an elderly neighbor or relative or your kids are doing schooling from home or you're still working from home. every aspect of every american's life is impacted by this. and what is so clear on the tapes is that american's president lied to the american people about the extent of what he knew to be true about this virus. and there's no way to say, you know, we'll see of course as the

election plays out, but it's hard to imagine that not having resonance in a meaningful way for people. >> jamie, the president tweeted this. quote, bob woodward had my quotes for many months. if he thought they were so bad or dangerous, why didn't he immediately report them in an effort to save lives? didn't he have an obligation to do so? you have read woodward's book. what is your take on whether that is valid? >> i'm going to give you some context, but this is classic donald trump. he has gotten caught on audiotape saying this and what is his instinct? he is going to go out and blame someone else or try to deflect or project on to someone else. here's the context. when bob woodward did that interview in february and he lays this out in great detail in the book, he said, but he was actually surprised the president

even brought up coronavirus because it was a couple of days after he had been acquitted of impeachment and that's what bob woodward expected the call to be about. and then all of a sudden, out of left field, trump starts talking about coronavirus. woodward makes it clear that back then, he was -- it just wasn't on his mind. that was a problem in china. and he wasn't even really sure whether trump was exaggerating or riffing or making something up. woodward did not understand the import of what trump said until early may when he discovers that there was a january 28th top secret briefing in which national security adviser robert o'brien and his deputy rang the alarm bell and told trump that

this was the greatest threat. and we have a piece of that interview where bob asks trump about january 28th. >> so not -- >> because it was too early. >> your new national security adviser o'brien said to you on january 28th, mr. president, this is going -- this virus is going to be the biggest national security threat to your presidency. do you remember that? >> no. no. >> you don't? >> no, i don't. no, i don't. i'm sure if he said it, i'm sure he said it, nice guy. >> i'm sure he said it. so there you see exactly what's happened. all of a sudden in may, woodward puts the pieces together. he understands oh, my gosh, trump knew all of these details on february 7th.

he goes back and looks at his transcripts. then he looks at his transcripts in march and sees him saying playing it down. then he puts it together the time line. it was in hind sight in may when frankly all of us knew the dangers of coronavirus and how deadly it was, contagious and airborne that woodward puts the pieces together. so donald trump knew it at the time and bob woodward did not. >> you have to ask the question about the president of the united states and his capacity to do his job, if you're president of the united states and your national security adviser tells you this thing, "x," in this case the virus, is the greatest single national national security threat you'll deal with in your presidency and you don't remember that, you say you don't remember that i mean, either he's lying to bob woodward which we know the president has a penchant for doing, but -- or this is so much

more grave. what exactly is the president paying attention to if not that kind of warning from your national security adviser? >> yeah. i would also just say, look, we're very much still in the middle of this. so the president is responsible for leading this country right now and leading us through this pandemic for the next four-plus months and that is where we are. sanjay, thank you so much. david and jamie, thank you. don't forget to join sanjay tonight. he's co-hosting a cnn global town hall with anderson cooper. get all of your questions answered at 8:00 p.m. eastern live on cnn. president trump suggesting to bob woodward that he's drinking the kool-aid for acknowledging white privilege in this country and giving us a first look at the love letters -- there's no other way to describe these sent between president trump and kim jong-un. he called their relationship a magical force.

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another revelation out of the bob woodward book. woodward detald more than two dozen letters and they're filled with flowery language and high praise, mostly from kim jong-un who referred to trump as your excellency and who called the special friendship a magical force. about their 2019 meeting in vietnam, kim jong-un wrote every minute we shared 103 days ago in hanoi was a moment of glory that remains a precious memory. such a precious memory that i have in my unwavering respect

for you when we walk toward each other again some time in the future and trump tweeted out kim jong-un being in good health. i want to bring in susan glasser, cnn global affairs analyst who writes about life in trump's washington. wow, susan, these letters. what did you think when you saw them? >> well, you know, trump has been bragging about these letters for the last few years. in fact, i have it reliably he'd trot them out to visitors in the oval office and show them to them and make a big deal of how unique and exception they were. i'm not entirely surprised that woodward obtained copies of these from the president as part of the cooperation for the book. you know, it's just sort of embarrassing and cringy, isn't it? i mean, the president seems to have a love affair with kim jong-un and in fact there's a language kim at one point talked about this as a fantasy

relationship that the two have. trump even talks and muses about them as sort of quickly knowing the way you know with a woman instantly the chemistry between them. it's not something that you imagine a democratically elected president having with a brutal dictator who brags according to woodward about how he killed his own uncle. >> i feel almost embarrassed talking with you about them that's how cringe worthy they are. so bizarre the contents of the letters. let's talk about something else that woodward reveals and that's dan coats the director of national intelligence secretly believed without any intel, that's important, but that vladimir putin might have something on trump because in coats' mind there was no other way to explain the president's behaviors towards russia's lead.

what did you think of that revelati revelation? >> i think it's significant and here's why. coats has access to all of the intelligence from all of the varying different u.s. intelligence agencies regarding russia and putin is a subject of enormous public interest. we might have heard people speculating publicly in print or on television, what is it that putin has on trump and to this day, four years after the 2016 election, the fact that it's not explained and the head of u.s. national intelligence cannot explain the inexplicable affinity and public praise that trump has showered on putin, i think we tend to overlook this in a way because it's such a big story. the fact that the president has this unexplained dealings with putin. he wants to reorient u.s. policy toward putin, despite what both republicans and democrats is in the national interest.

i find it significant, number one. number two, the book continues the first real account of what went wrong in the coats/trump relationship. coats uncomfortable with trump and you have what appears to be in the book coats' own voice and his wife expressing qualms with what was going on inside the administration. >> susan, thank you so much, always great to get your perspective. always magical i would say. it's great to see you. >> like the fantasy, brianna. >> right. next, a new poll showing a majority of americans think political pressure will lead to the coronavirus vaccine being rushed. plus, celebrity fitness expert gillian michaels said she let her guard down for an hour and contracted coronavirus. she's going to join us live with a warning about returning to the gym right now. alright, everyone, we made it.

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as we learn more about president trump's lies to downplay the pandemic, there's also new evidence that the american public is worried that the trump administration will rush a vaccine to market. 62% of people believe that the political pressure will push the fda to approve a vaccine before election day. here is admiral giroir in an

interview with dr. sanjay gupta this morning. >> now that we have $5 easy tests to do, we're going to deliver millions every week to governors, to support reopening of schools and critical infrastructure. we now have that available and we need to use it. if you want to call it assurance testing or screening it's really the same thing. it's testing asymptomatic individuals to give an idea that we know that there isn't widespread circulation that we need to up the game and test everyone at that point. we're doing it for nursing homes and for assisted living home health care. we'll do it for k-12. >> there are more than 6 million confirmed cases in the united states and jillian michaels is one of them. she spoke up this week about contracting the virus several weeks ago and she's joining us now to talk about it. you look great, you look very healthy which we are happy to see you but you said you let your guard down for an hour. tell us what happened and how this all played out for you.

>> yes. very, very close friend of mine, one of my best friends who also does my hair and makeup, that i have been seen in my, quote, small quarantine circle consistently throughout the course of 2020 was over at my house with her two kids. i was there with my girlfriend, my two kids and a very close friend and one of her kids. everybody was feeling fine, looking great, in perfect health seemingly so. and two days later, this very close friend contacted me and said u hey, jill, i just tested positive for covid. i suggest you get tested and quarantine immediately. but the scary part is five days before she came to my house, she was on set and she tested negative and there was a covid compliance officer. over the course this journey for

myself and my friends we had five false negative tests and that's the part that really shook me is that not only can you feel fine, look fine, seem fine, but be extremely contagious. you can also have a false negative test so i'm asking people to be very diligent, no matter what the circumstance appears to be on the surface. >> so you have a message for folks, right, when it comes to of course we associate you with fitness and you have a message for people when it comes to going to the gym, which is something, look, you know, so many people want to do this. it's important for their mental health. they're trying to figure out ways to manage this. what do you say to them? >> listen, i will restate the obvious. i'm not a doctor, i'm not a researcher, i'm not an economist. right? i'm simply an individual who was going to the gym before they were shut down in california and i'm an individual who caught covid quite easily. so i'm now looking at this and

thinking, okay, i know that when i was there and i'm very fit, you know, you touch the mask, you pull it down, you kind of try to steal a breath. you then touch the equipment and you're being as careful as you can be. but if you are at all concerned of catching covid it is probably not the best environment right now. i'm simply saying, if you do go be overwhelmingly diligent. do not touch your mask under any circumstances and there are other ways to support your gym. a lot have online classes. so many personal trainers are doing personal training through facetime. again, i was very fortunate that i didn't have difficulties with it. but god forbid, i had given it to somebody else that's the part that really scares me. >> yeah. that you could be -- that you could be a spreader. it's extremely concerning. and thank you very much.

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the latest version of a coronavirus stimulus deal is dead. last hour on capitol hill, the senate failed to pass a bill to help millions of americans who are suffering financially threw the pandemic. the so called gop skinny bill would have provided half of what congress included in the march covid relief package and would have allowed small businesses to apply for a second loan from the paycheck protection program. what the bill did not include is money for a second round of direct stimulus checks to

americans or help for state and local governments that are deeply in debt. i'm joined by democratic senator doug jones of alabama. senator jones, you voted no. all democrats did, joined by republican rand paul. what happens next now in terms of helping americans if this wasn't good enough to do what you think is needed? >> well, it wasn't anywhere close to being good enough, and thanks for having me, brianna. what happens next depends on mitch mcconnell. he has controlled everything since the summer. the house passed the h.e.r.o.e.s. act in may and the fact is that it would have provided a framework. it was not a perfect bill, by any stretch but it helped the americans and we knew this virus would be with us through the summer and the fall. he refused -- he was the grim reaper and put that in a deep, dark hole in his office. and just only before we left in august decided to kind of roll out some things and he couldn't get his own caucus to do so.

so he scaled it back. mitch mcconnell has more interest in having a partisan vote than he does a bipartisan bill for the american people. so it really depends on him. if he wants to come to the table and talk, democrats have been begging for that since may of this past -- this past summer. we would love to do it. i don't think we should go home until we get a big bill, a full bill for all people. housing assistance, state and local, get it passed and signed by president. >> it's an election year so likely congress will go home soon here. you don't want to go home, but that's likely going to happen. >> that's on mitch mcconnell, that's not on me. i didn't want to go home in august. i said we should stay here to get a bill passed. if we leave now it's on him. he's going to take this and he will show his hand and this is just a purely political vote and has nothing to do with wanting to help the american people. we can get something done if he

would come to the table in good faith. the administration would come to the table in good faith because i can assure you that myself and other democrats are ready. we have been at the table in good faith since last may. >> what would you vote for? what do you want to see? >> well, we need more money for city and county governments. you know, our county governments are -- and city governments are laying off people left and right and that's only going to get worse. we need hazard pay. we need more money for the postal service especially as we get to the election. we need to make sure the ppp program is shored up and that the minority businesses can get the funds and not just the bigger businesses. there are a number of things completely missing from this package. it contained a couple of good things for sure but it contained a lot of poison pills. $5 billion to give private relief, tax credits for private schools that's just a sellout to try to get votes on the

republican side. which don't need that kind of information. we need a clean package that's going to help all american many people across the board and not just a select few. >> can i ask you -- i hear you say that you don't want to go home, it's mitch mcconnell's problem if you do end up going home. would democrats consider staying even if mitch mcconnell goes home? but i mean, would you stay to make a point that you're in town and ready to work because what we see happen so often is that the leader can go home, the other party can go home but then everyone else just kind of goes home too and blames it on the other party. >> well t fact of the matter, the majority leader controls the floor. there is not one thing that people could do in the united states senate unless the majority leader gives his okay. if he is gone, and all the republicans are gone, all you can do is make speeches. i can make speeches at home. it is his -- it is on him.

if he wants to get something done, he can keep us here. he can come to the table in good faith. but the rules of the senate are such it is all on the majority leader. not on anybody else. he controls that. >> i want to ask you what you make of these revelations of the president misleading american people about the danger of the coronavirus. we have heard him now on tape. >> it's stunning. it is absolutely stunning. i don't know that i can say that i am that surprised though because what he was saying at the time publicly was to defying every bit of health care professionals. they all talked about this going back as early as april and they were talking about this. so everything he said publicly was so inconsistent with what i was hearing from health care professionals. i can't say i'm surprised but to here out of his own words is stunning and i cannot believe that the president of the united

states would literally downplay such an important thing. he would never downplay a hurricane, a tornado, another natural disaster putting people's lives at risk and it's stunning he would do it to try to help prop up the stock market. >> senator jones, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. next as racial protests erupt, president trump refusing to admit that being white may have given him some advantages in life. we'll share those revealing comments that he made to bob woodward. was that your grandfather, leading armies to battle? was that your great-aunt, keeping armies alive? drafting the plans. taking the pictures. was it your family members?

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one other topic that president trump has heard downplaying on the woodward tapes is his white privilege. following the several killings of unarmed black men and women, bob woodward asked the president if he felt he's benefited from white privilege and the president outright dismissed that idea. >> but let me ask you this. i mean, we share one thing in common. we're white, privileged, who my father was a lawyer and a judge in illinois. and we know what your dad did and do you have any sense that that privilege has isolated and

put you in a cave to a certain extent as it put me and i think lots of white privileged people in a cave and that we have to work our way out of it to understand the anger and the pain particularly black people feel in this country. do you -- >> no. you really drank the kool-aid, did you, listen to you. no, i don't feel that at all. >> glenn harris is from race forward and he's the publisher of color lines. glenn, thank you so much for coming on to talk about this. what's your response to what you heard? >> oh, thank you so much for having me. my response is that the overwhelming majority of americans acknowledge that being white is an advantage in the country.

my response is to both this part of his conversation and a broader part of the conversation about the pandemic that americans are tougher than this. americans can have honest conversations about the pandemic and americans can have honest conversations about race and in my 30 years of doing this work, that has always been the truth. people want to have discussions, they want to have honest discussions, and the only way we're getting to the kind of just, multiracial democratic society that we all want is through that path. >> the president, as you know, glenn, also shared that he thought there was less systemic racism in the u.s. compared to other places. i want to listen to that part. >> do you think there is systematic or institutional racism in this country? >> well, i think there is everywhere, but less here than many other places.

>> okay, but is it here in a way that it has an impact on people's lives? >> i think it is. >> he seems to minimize it, grossly underestimating intensity and impact of it? >> no question. the president has been repeatedly trying to attack our ability to have honest, open discussions about race in america. and there's no question that at the core, that covid, the pandemic, has laid bare the realities how it's playing in our economies for black, brown and indigenous communities, the reality of the murder of george floyd made it completely clear how systemic racism plays in our policing system, and the reality of the economic collapse we're

currently in is playing out in disproportionate ways again for communities of color. we're in a moment where you can't die nigh it's up front center in our face about inequality based on race in united states and simultaneously the president continues to push for shutting down, actually having those conversations, and if we're being honest, actually seemingly to promote violence over the need for discussion. and, you know, at the core for us in our work on racial justice, we're really clear. the only path forward for us as a country to adjust multi-racial democratic society isusfinding better ways to have these discussions, and the ability to name it, to be honest how we got here. our history, and its current manifestations in our lives. >> when you talk to someone who maybe doesn't understand what white privilege is or what

privilege is, how do you get through to them to show them that trickle-down effect over years and over generations to explain it? >> yeah. i think it's about acknowledging the way in which our systems were constructed, that create advantage based on race in america. and, again, i think the piece that is, in doing the work it becomes really clear is that the majority of americans actually see that and understand that. and i think the right question is, is it, not what is it? but what do we do with the moment we're in? and that is what i think is so exciting about what we have seen over the course of the summer. this movement towards racial justice, this movement towards having more honest discussions that would allow us to talk about how we take our history, acknowledge it, think about

repair and move forward to the kind of country that we all know we deserve. >> glenn, thank you so much. glenn harris, great to see you. >> thank you so much. minutes from now president trump will be holding a news conference. you are looking at live pictures there coming to us from the white house briefing room and, of course, this is all happening, unscheduled. just found out about it. it's happening in the wake of those damning recordings to show that he lied repeatedly to the american people about how deadly the coronavirus was. we're going to bring that to you live. first, this week's impact your world. learn how you can help nonprofits like the aware wildlife center save injured animals. >> . >> aware is a nonprofit rehabilitation center for hospital orphaned native wildlife. we are responsible for feeding them, medicating them. they might need swim time or

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here we go. hi there, i'm brianna keilar. thank you so much for being with me on this thursday. a quick live picture. sneak peek into the white house briefing room. waiting to hear from the president of the united states. he is expected to hold a news conference there at the white house any moment now. if he takes questions, we will bring that to you. now, keep in mind, this briefing comes one day after the release of the stunning revelations from bob woodward's interviews with the president recordings that prove the president knew how deadly the virus was. recordings that prove he didn't tell you the truth, at a time when potentially thousands of american lives could have been saved. during one interview with woodward, back in early february, the president made the shocking admission that he intentionally played down the threat of coronavirus. he also admitted to knowing it was highly contagious, more deadly than the flu, and could be transmitted through the air. the release of these reportings come as the d