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pushing and learning. the last time i saw her earlier this year, it had to be -- it was on a topic of civil procedure and how important it was to fundamental liberty. she typed up a quote from felix frankfurter she brought to her interview and she clutched that piece of paper. she said she had been so excited to go look this up again. there was something about her that was still had a school girl youthful enthusiasm about everything. whether it meant the underpinnings of roe or just her own learning experience. she was always -- she was always in the game 100%. >> thank you. fareed zakaria starts now.
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sgljts sgljtsds. president vowing to bring over the president nominates to the floor. and just an hour from now, the v vice president, former vice president will stake to the stage in philadelphia to give his remarks on the supreme court vacancy. and then just moments ago, a key republican senator weighing in on a possible nomination to replace justice ruth bader ginsburg before election day. our correspondents are standing by with all these developments. let's begin with cnn's lauren fox on capitol hill. lauren, democrats may have an ally in lisa murkowski. both she and susan collins saying they are against taking of a supreme court nominee before the election if two more republican senators also oppose,
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then the president's pick could be in jeopardy. elaborate. >> that's right. democrats have two allies right now. you named them. senator susan collins in the state of maine. and now just moments ago lisa murkowski a fiercely independent republican from the state of alaska who has crossed party lines before, especially on fights over the supreme court. if you remember, she voted against brett kavanaugh just a few years ago. so they're certainly lining up. but, remember, mcconnell needs to hold his conference together. but democrats need four republicans to cross the aisle and vote with them. right now they only have two. and these statements are really interesting because essentially what these two women are saying is they are not comfortable moving forward with a nominee before election day. and this has always been one of the key questions. does mcconnell move forward now
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when he still has momentum, when this will motivate voters to show up in races perhaps in north carolina or iowa where there are tough races to be had, or does he wait until after election day and that carries a lot of risk as well because, if you know, it is a possibility that donald trump loses the white house. it is also a possibility that democrats regain power in the senate. even though they return for the lame duck, some moderate republicans might be uncomfortable moving forward if the voters have spoken and they were to have to take a vote on donald trump's nominee. so that's what is at play right now. meanwhile you have senators like tom cotton, a republican, a conservative saying they are going to be moving forward without delay. i am told that republicans are trying to convince mcconnell, conservatives especially, that this needs to happen fast. it needs to happen now. if you have the votes, you vote. that has always been the rules
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of the road on capitol hill and it has always been the rules of the road for the majority leader. he's going to be conversation conversations with his members over the next couple of days. but it is clear they certainly are supporting mcconnell right now even if there are two republicans who have come out against moving forward right now. >> and what the president is saying, he's ready to name his nam kn nominee of choice this week. all right. now happening in the next hour, the former vice president will be making a few statements. let's go to philadelphia where joe biden is getting ready to talk. our jessica dean is there with a preview. jessica, can we expect to hear perhaps a list of potential supreme court nominees from biden as the president had challenged him? >> well, they have signalled that that's not likely to happen. what is likely to happen today is we're going to hear former vice president joe biden talking
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about the supreme court vacancy, and we're being told by campaign aids they want to tie this to the affordable care act. they want to take the case that this is going to impact the affordable care act. there is a lawsuit making its way through the supreme court right now and joe biden has often attacked donald trump on the campaign trail for months now about taking away pre-existing conditions from americans all across the country with this lawsuit that will undo parts of the affordable care act. if you zoom out and think about 2018 when democrats were able to take power back in the house, this is the argument they made across the country. it was all about health care. it was about pre-existing conditions and protections. and the biden campaign believes that americans understand this argument that they are able to understand what this could mean to pre-existing conditions and protections as it applies to their health care. and the biden campaign believes
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that can be a way to really explain to people what this is about to really frame this vacancy and why it's so important that joe biden be the president to select the next supreme court justice. now, we heard from vice president biden late on friday. he said he believed that the american people should select a next president and that president should select a justice to be considered by the senate, so we know where he stands on that. expect to hear about health care and also the coronavirus pandemic more today as he ties that all to this legacy. >> we'll take his remarks when they begin at the top of the hour when scheduled. jessica dean, thank you so much in philadelphia. >> fill the seat! fill the seat! fill the seat! fill the seat! >> the sound of president trump's supporters chanting fill that seat at a campaign rally last night in north carolina
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just hours after the death of ruth bader ginsburg. president trump made it clear that he is going to use the open seat as a major campaign issue, and he vowed to nominate a replacement in a matter of days. >> so article 2 of our constitution says the president shall nominate justices of the supreme court. i don't think it can be anymore clear, can it? i don't think so. i will be putting forth a nominee next week. it will be a woman. >> all right. for more on this now, let's bring in john harwood at the white house. the president and his fellow republicans appear determined to get the nomination and confirmation process underway as quickly as possible. what are you hearing about the possible pick for the president. >> well, you could tell from the cheers at that rally where the
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president addressed the issue. he is eager to embrace and his supporters are eager to embrace something to shake up a campaign that has not been going very well for the president, and the way the pick is shaping up, it could have some direct political impacts. first of all, the president he's going to move quickly. he indicate he's going to pick a woman. the president has a big deficit among women and it is possible to replace ruth bader ginsburg with a woman. probably the leading candidate is amy barrett. she is an appeals court judge from the midwest, key electoral battleground. teaches at notre dame. conservative catholic. you have joan larsen also from the midwest, long-time professor at university of mirchigan law school. you have an appeals court judge in florida. cuban american, that's a key constituency for the president. whoever he picks, this will be in the hands of mitch mcconnell,
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the senate republican leader. he's been very effective for his party on the subject four years ago when barack obama had a replacement ten months before the election. mcconnell came up with a justification for holding the seat open. he said, we shouldn't do it in an election year. now that we're two months before the election, he's come up with a new justification. we heard a senior white house official mark short echoing that justification today. >> i reject the notion it is hypocrisy. historical precedent is when your party is in power and going back to george washington, the party has continued to confirm those nominees. so i don't think there is hypocrisy. the people of america elected donald trump president in 2016 in large part because he was so transparent and said, here's who i would nominate. >> of course, what the president and mitch mcconnell need is for 50 republicans to buy that
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argument. we have heard from two as lauren fox indicated earlier, susan collins and lisa murkowski. they don't buy the argument. i think at this stage, fred, you have to say the odds are in favor of president trump and mitch mcconnell that they will get this done. >> don, let me also bring into this conversation cnn supreme court analyst joan. joan, the democrats are vowing to do whatever it takes. everything is on the table, you know, to slow or stop a confirmation happening this year. with speaker pelosi, you know, threatening another possible impeachment, but she says she's not interesting at all in shutting down the government, you know, to slow things down, is there nothing or is there something that democrats actually can do? >> they really have to count on the political will. they have to count on key senators to make a difference. mitch mcconnell has the math on his side right now.
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they have to make clear to people that it is not just cases like the affordable care act that jessica so rightly referred to, but this is a lifetime seat. this is affirmative action. this is religious liberty. whoever is appointed and donald trump is looking at women in their 40s right now. whoever is appointed will probably serve at least 30, 40 years. so whatever happens now can effect the law of our children and grandchildren. so that's the case i think they're trying to make to the public to put some pressure on the senator. but, fred, to your most practical question, it's really up to what mitch mcconnell is able to pull off. and back in 2016, when mitch mcconnell first declared that he was going to block president obama's nominee a full month before president obama even nominated h ed merrick garland e
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thought, can this work? >> now we're talking over a matter of 40 days here. john, former president bill clinton weighed in. he was on cnn earlier today. and, you know, he talked about this republican hypocrisy as he sees it for blocking obama's nomination of merrick garland in 2016 and moving forward with this pick during an election year. listen. >> there is a case to be made for the argument mcconnell made that in the middle of a presidential season you should give the voters a say. that's what he said. when it was ten months away. but when the shoe is on the other foot and he wants to judge, we're fewer than 50 days away and that argument doesn't cut any mustard. it is a power play, and they think they can do it. >> john, if democrats can't do much, you know, to stop this
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process from going forward, what are the chances of three or four perhaps republican senators deciding that they will, you know, refrain from backing an immediate confirmation? >> president clinton said it was a power play. that is exactly what it is. and joan was precisely correct a few minutes ago when she said the only tool democrats have at their disposal is politics. that is the demonstrated will of the american people. political pressure on republican senators running for re-election and the prospect this would generate a huge backlash against republicans. it is notable the strategy that jessica dean outlined that the biden campaign is taking. many of the key voters they're targeting in those midwest earn battlegrounds that gave trump the presidency a few years ago where biden hopes to win it back is blue collar voters. they may have been pro-life. joe biden is preparing to make a bread and butter argument to
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those voters, not about abortion which may appeal to younger voters, more liberal voters, but about taking away your health care. and that argument is something that democratic strategists may be effective in holding some of those voters that joe biden needs in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. >> lots on the table. health care, reproductive rights, equality. these are the things that people are now urging folks to be thinking of when they vote, especially as a consequence of the death of ruth bader ginsburg. so, you know, joan oftentimes people are thinking about, you know, the possibility that a president will have the opportunity to put someone on the bench. how is that even more, you know, resonant now? >> one thing that joe biden has going for him is that in november, a week after the election, the justices are going to take up a constitutional
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challenge to the affordable care act, to obamacare. so there is a very real possibility of the supreme court now, without ruth bader ginsburg completely voiding that law. there is no way that was going to happen because in 2012 the supreme court rejected that challenge. back in 2013 the supreme court rejected that challenge. but they needed ruth bader ginsburg to do it. i think it's still going to be a closed case, but it is a very salient example of, as john said, bread and butter issues here just because the court is about to take it up. so it might be a more effective argument because it's right before people right now. president trump has said that he is not trying to get rid of the part of the law that says that anyone with pre-existing conditions like diabetes or cancer can't be kicked off their
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health plans. but in the supreme court, his lawyers are arguing for that saying we don't pre-existing conditions in this law. we don't want this law at all. i think there is a chance the case could be made. but, boy, when donald trump said after 2016 that one of the reasons he won or maybe even one of the leading reasons he won was because of the supreme court, the vacancy he was then able to fill, i think this is what he's counting on to really help him on november 3rd. >> uh-huh. >> all right. we'll leave it there. thanks to both of you. really appreciate it. all right. next, the u.s. set to hit a grim milestone of 200,000 deaths from coronavirus. this as cases in at least 30 states spike. are we on the cusp of a second wave? and empty promises in the race for a vaccine. we fact check the latest claims from the trump administration straight ahead.
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the u.s. nearing 200,000 coronavirus deaths and it comes as florida and georgia are registering new daily case records. later toy day in remembrance of the lives lost, the national cathedral bell in washington, d.c. will chime 200 times. evan, what's the latest? >> well, the latest is what we know is some time in the next day based on projections, the official number of americans who have died from causes related to this pandemic will cross the
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200,000 mark. that's just a jaw dropping number and one that shatters expectations we were given based on what the white house told us to expect. let's listen to president trump talking about what 200,000 might mean. >> if we can hold that down as we're saying to 100,000, it's a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000 so we have between 100,000 and 200,000, we altogether have done a very good job. >> fred, there is a lot of news going on, as you know, but the central story in this country, even in places like new york where we brought the numbers way down remains this pandemic. it is getting in the way of jobs. it is getting in the way of schools, and it's still killing people every day. as far as we can tell for now, that's not going to change. fred? >> all right. evan, all very grim nonetheless.
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thank you so much. i want to bring in dr. bass set, an emergency medicine physician and the medical director at baylor saint luke's mcnair campus emergency department. good to see you, doctor. so as we approach this awful milestone, which appears to be inevitable, we're seeing a spike in cases in almost 30 states. are you concerned this is the beginning of a second wave of this outbreak, or are we already in the midst of it? >> i'm definitely concerned, fred. you said it. we have hit a milestone, but it is not a good one. what i think people don't understand is how disproportionately the united states has been affected during this pandemic. there have been 30.8 million cases of covid-19 reported worldwide and over 6.7 million of those are in the united states alone. in terms of deaths, globally there have been over 957,000 deaths and that means 21% of
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global deaths from covid-19 are in the united states. this is not a laughing matter. this is not a joke. yet, for some reason, we still have people who are not proponents of utilizing masks and people who are saying that businesses should reopen without any mitigation strategies in place. these are not the kind of topics that will help us win this war against covid-19. >> and what are you observing with the patients coming in to your hospital? is there a particular difference today versus a month ago or even three or four months ago? >> well, the difference is now is that as the disease progresses, we're learning more and more about it. when covid-19 first hit the scene back in january, we initially thought this was primarily a respiratory disease. now we know covid-19 can affect a number of the body systems. it can affect your lungs, your neurological systems. it can affect clotting.
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it's causing long-term effects. we have seen celebrities making videos about losing their hair months after being diagnosed with covid-19. we're seeing the myriad of symptoms. >> are you seeing more younger people? >> yes, absolutely. there have been over 500,000 cases, pediatric cases of covid-19 worldwide. children are not immune from this disease. young people are not immune from this disease. we were initially thinking that this was something that primarily affected the elderly and young people were not susceptible. we know that is not the case. >> let's talk about the great big hope. president trump promising 100 million doses of a vaccine by the end of this year and enough doses for all americans by april. his own advisers are saying that isn't realistic at all. here's what admiral giroux told
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cnn this morning. >> from my perspective, even a few million doses early in november or december, if we have 5% or 10% of the population that we can vaccinate, we can get 80% or 90% of the benefit. for example, if we could vac nate workers in nursing homes, that would make an enormous impact on mortality. if we could vaccinate our teache teachers, that would make a difference. >> does that math add up to you? >> i think we're really hanging our hat on a vaccine right now, and we shouldn't be. even if a vaccine is approved, the fda said it only needs to be 50% effective in order for them to approve it for worldwide use. that means only 50% will be prevented from getting covid-19 if they get the vaccine.
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it will not be the great white hope we think it is. we still have to continue to use the mitigation strategies we already have in place, wearing masks and social distancing. people, for a while this is going to be our new normal, and it is high time we get used to that. >> always good to see you. thank you so much. a trifecta of disasters in california. wild fires, earthquakes and rising cases of covid-19 in that state. and it is overwhelmed there. i'll ask a lawmaker next. waste up to 20 gallons of water. let's end this habit. skip the rinse. finish quantum... with activblu technology. designed to remove dried-on food without pre-rinsing while still getting dishes so clean they shine. together we can save america 150 billion gallons of water in just one year. switch to finish and skip the rinse to save our water.
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all right. we're currently in what could be the busiest travel weekend for u.s. airports since the lockdowns began. it might be a glimmer of hope, but for many airline workers a bounceback may be too little too late. here's pete. >> reporter: time is running out for the nation's flight attendants and tens of thousands in the aviation industry faced with furloughs that start in just weeks. >> we're looking at half of them losing their jobs. >> we are left to dry. >> reporter: angela of new jersey is one of 7,000 united states airlines flight attendants that opened furlough letters earlier this month. she was hired only two years ago. >> it's very emotional. i'm scared for myself. i'm scared for my friends who we're in a crazy place right
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now. >> reporter: in march $25 million federal payroll dollars went to struggling airlines but only until october 1st. a new analysis finds that's when 50,000 airline workers will be furloughed. the majority are flight attendants. >> this is going to have a ripple effect that will be very far-reaching in our economy at just the wrong time. >> reporter: unions and some airlines want congress to extend payroll support by six months. they say that could save jobs until travel demand returns. industry groups stress the loss of one airline job impacts even more down the line. he owes four months rent after he lost his job as an airport security guard. >> our situation right now is not good. >> reporter: airlines say furloughs are the only option and more could be coming after
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october 1st. southwest says enough employees have left on their own, so it has dodged a bullet for now. >> real people, real jobs. >> reporter: union leaders say a legislative delay has damaged the industry beyond repair. countless airline veterans have already taken buy-outs and early retirements. but its junior employees like angela whose future could be grounded for good. >> it is a dream job. i don't know if i'm going to be able to find a new job soon with the job market we're working with. it's crazy times. >> reporter: cnn washington. much more straight ahead in the news room right after this. i am robert strickler.
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nominate a replacement before the election. if republicans succeed, the court, the high court would likely have a conservative majority for decades to come putting the affordable care act and abortion rights at risk, not just in the immediate future but for generations. and then just moments ago, key republican senator lisa murkowski weighed in saying she opposes taking up the nomination before election day but doesn't go as far as saying the winner of the election should be the one to select the next justice. joining me right now is alexis mcgill johnson, the president and ceo of planned parenthood federation of america. >> thank you for having me. >> so as you assess, you know, the days forward after the is tt by her the greatest threat roe
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v. wade has faced since it was decided in your view? >> look, there is no question that we -- there are 17 cases that are just a case away, a step away from the supreme court and, you know, in each of those cases could undermine access to abortion or gut roe in a way that might be incredibly harmful. but you have to know we have been organizing and preparing for this moment for quite some time and organizing in the states to ensure that no person seeking abortion should have to go outside of their state or much less outside of their zip code. so it is obviously an incredibly concerning, you know, turn of events and we lost a huge champion for reproductive freedom in justice ginsburg, but we are out here ready to continue in dissent and resist as she would have. >> perhaps a lot of people don't realize that access to abortions
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make up a small percentage of the total services of planned parenthood. you offer a number of things. i'm sure you could add to it from health care examines, cancer screenings, birth control, std, testing, treatment and prevention as well as hiv services. and this is for both men and women, correct? so, you know, how concerned are you about the access to health care if indeed affordable care act is struck down. i mean, the supreme court is to take it up in november. a decision may not come until shortly thereafter, but what are your concerns? >> yeah, absolutely. we're living in the time of a pandemic. we have seen the impact that covid has in just laying bare the systemic racism in this country, particularly in health care. we should be thinking how we're expanding access to health care in this moment, not thinking about how to take it away. the republicans should be
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focussed on how to expand relief under the next covid cares bill as opposed to trying to ram through a supreme court nominee knowing that justice ginsburg's wish was that we wait until election day. >> is it enough to you that senator murkowski and collins were saying, don't vote on a nominee before election day, they're not quite saying, you know, that it should be up to the winner of the election who should make the selection of a nominee. >> look, we need to have -- you know, we need to wait until january 21, '21 to start this process. and, you know, we will have hopefully a new president and a new administration and the winner of the election should make that determination. it's not enough just to have senators murkowski and collin, as much as we appreciate their
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voicing their concern, we also need additional senators. we need, you know, senator grassley. we need senator alexander. we need folks who will step up and ensure they are also adhering to not just the justice's wishing but the wishes of the american people. we can't continue to politicize the supreme court. we need to make sure to do all we can to ensure democracy and not changing the rules to suit what happens for mitch mcconnell's power needs. >> planned parenthood as endorsed joe biden. to what extent does planned parenthood try to ensure his victory? >> you know, planned parenthood action fund has endorsed joe biden. we committed $45 million to spend on not just winning the white house but also flipping the senate and making sure that we are doing everything we can, as you said, not just to protect sexual reproductive health care
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but health care broadly. we want biden to continue to reaffirm his commitment to protecting access to health care, access safe and legal abortion. and we know that having senator harris on his ticket who i think has been a very bold champion as well in her vision of roe is really important. we will be doing everything we can both to push back on trying to seat a new justice during this term when we have people already voting right now. it is already election day right today and, you know, making sure we're also doing everything we can to transform our government in a way that actually reflects the wishes of the american people. >> while we all mourn the loss of ginsburg, do you see that her death has now galvanized the vote unlike anything prior to her passing. >> look, i mean, we are fired up. you have seen the clips in front of the supreme court, the vigils
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that are being held by our partners across the -- you know, across the country, self-organized. i have one amazing supporter and donor in her 70s today who asked what was the civil disto bead yans strategy because she in fr court. we have people taking actions, engaging their actions and they're ready to do everything they can to lay it all on the line for this election. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. and we'll be right back. he t does the same. the rx, crafted by lexus. lease the 2020 rx 350 for $409 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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sadly america is fast approaching 200,000 deaths from covid-19. and it has been an especially tumultuous book for california. on top of the pandemic there have been deadly wildfires and even an earthquake.
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democratic state assembly member is joining us now from california. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> your state has been among the states hit hardest by the virus. but there is some perhaps should we call it encouraging news learning that saturday's hospital patient numbers were at the lowest since april? what do you credit to that? >> i think it's the leadership, the governor and so many others who have asked us to stay home, to wear a mask, to stay six feet away from each other. there's so many things and the fact that the people are doing it is making a difference. we want to see the economy to reopen and want it to be safe. >> dr. fauci says the measures being taken against covid actually may have an impact on the flu season. listen. >> we still should be getting off flu shots, for sure, the way
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we always do but it is entirely possible despite the fear that we were going to have a double whammy that may not be the case. >> flu shots, mask wearing, all making an impact. why does this perhaps give you a sense of hope for the fall? >> well, we want to be able to reopen our -- we want to be able to reopen the economy. so it gives me great hope to know there's more than to be done to keep us moving forward. >> now let's talk about the other thing, you know, that's hitting your state very hard. we are talking about the wildfires unfolding across the west. california department of forestry and fire protection said that containment continues to increase. the 27 wildfires in california. so where do things stand right now?
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how is this impacting every day life for so many? >> i tell you, here the el dorado fire in my community is about 59% contained. yesterday we suffered a loss of one of our firefighters. this is serious. we have to deal with this with climate chang and so many things happening here globally. it is not just in your area but globally so we have to do more but a part of that is providing more firefighters. we have more and more wildfires but we need those men and women to help fight the wildfires. >> you actually sponsored a bill that allows inmates firefighters on the front lines to become professional firefighters after they are released from prison. explain how that would work and why you support this. >> i think that sometime california and other states have been rethinking criminal justice
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for quite sometime. we want ways to improve the outcomes for those who make mistacks, serve the time and reentered society and when we view the determination of inmates that turned their lives around it motivated me to create a pathway to help them get on the right way and took work with stakeholders, both the firefighter union and those in criminal justice reform to try to come up with the best way that we can deal with this situation. it provides that for vegs that have successfully completed their duties as an inmate firefighter to apply for an expungement expedited of the criminal record and it would allow them to pursue employment as a firefighter or in any other profession that requires california license because now they won't have to disclose that felony conviction when they
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apply for the license. we have about 200 separate licenses through the state of california but one of those very important ones is the emt license that up to now has not been available to many of those who have those skills they acquired in the california conservation camp for the county, as well. >> let me ask you, too, about president trump blaming bad forest management for a lot of this and we are talking about this forestry is state and federal land and 60% is federally managed so what do you see ahead as lessons learned from this moment? >> there is so much we have to do but i'm glad you made that point. it surprised me when the president would say something about the management of our forests when the majority of the forest land here in california
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is federal so it is a federal requirement that they maintain them but here the state has been doing a much better job. i know we have had a number of hearings with yutilities to hav them work on their areas, as well. but it is going to take lots of work and i think the fire crews will and others who pursue this particular profession, it's their work that will help us to clear the land, to harden the land. we have to work as neighbors not only for our own land but for those -- the land of the others, as well. >> we'll leave it there for now and wishing everybody out there the best in just an onslaught of tough times. assemblywoman, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. at any moment a democratic presidential nominee joe biden will take to the stage in philadelphia to give remarks on
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the u.s. supreme court seat left open by the death of justice ginsburg as two key republican senators oppose a new nominee before the election. we're live next.
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hello again, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredericka whit field. the passing of justice ruth bader ginsburg ignited a political firestorm in washington. president trump saying he intends to fill the seat with a femalece