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if it changes over time, this flip flopping back and forth, what is happening here? >> brianna, i have to tell you this is extremely unusual, i'm covering the cdc better part of 30 years, i have never seen this, see them put up guidance and then three days later say we're reverting back to the old guidance. this is really unusual and very surprising. let's talk about the old and the new guidance and then now we're back to the old. we'll start with the old guidance. the way that the cdc is saying for months is that coronavirus is spread between two people who are within six feet apart, that that's the main way that it spreads. someone sneezes on you, cough or spit on you a little bit, they said on friday, actually, we think particles could be suspended in the air, droplets could be su spended in the air and you don't have to be within six feet, even if you're not
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within six feet you could catch coronavirus from someone because those droplets are floating around in the air. that's what they posted on friday and they gave recommendations for how to deal with that situation. and then just before noon today they said, oh, we didn't mean to post that. we've talken it down. i will give you my best bottom line right now. in april the national academy of sciences, highly respected, very press tie you group of scientists wrote to the white house saying the airborne transmission was for real. that this really happened. so if these scientists were saying this back in april and no one has disputed that since then, in fact, everybody -- if anything scientists have jumped on saying this is true, it does appear that this is a way that this can be spread. >> yeah. and that's really not helpful to
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people who are trying to figure out how to go about the daily lives and stay safe. thank you so much for that breaking news. i warrant to bring in medical analyst dr. alina wen. doctor, the nation, of course, is reaching this 200,000 death mark in the u.s. it's just kind of staggering that this many months out especially considering it's not an issue of changing knowledge necessarily about what's going on, it's confusing guidance from the cdc. what do you make of this? >> it's extremely confusing and that type of whiplash, especially without an explanation directly from the cdc creates confusion and leads to lack of trust in the cdc overall. we do expect guidance over time to change based on new science and new research and in this case there's growing evidence
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about aerosol transmission, that coronavirus is not something that's trance meted only through the large respiratory droplets. we have known that it's transmitted through the much smaller aerosols and why we advise on masks, ventilation. so i was glad when i saw the cdc guidelines first appear on friday. although we need to say they didn't have a press conference. not like they announced the change but just appeared on the website and they retracted this and one has to wonder what's behind it. was there political pressure? political interference to drive this rather than science? >> we know that because of reporting, good reporting that cnn confirmed we know that when it comes to the cdc there has been interference on guidance from political appointees wanting to have guidance be a certain way and career
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scientists thinking that's not accurate, that doesn't match science to have guidance be a certain way, so knowing that that's the environment that we are in, this is a relatively new report from last week, what are your concerns about whether what is on the website is actually what people need to know how to behave or it's something that's tracking more closely to a number of political officials in the u.s. including the u.s. wanting states, businesses, schools to preopen? >> the last thing we need is this type of confusion. there was the whiplash around testing for asymptomatic evenin individuals and it can be transmitted by individuals not showing symptoms and confusion of that and turning away people and insurance companies also having some confusion of reimbursement and caused a lot
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of problems and i fear this is happening again with the mode of transmission. this is something that can be transmitted through aerosols and the airborne way and the sooner to recognize that the more to put into place mitigation measures that help to improve people's safety. that's what it's about at the errand of the day, not about poll tib politics or what looks good but to reduce the number of infections and deaths. >> i want to turn now to the current numbers that we are seeing on the pandemic today. there are signs that we may be starting to see this labor day surge that health experts warned us about. you have the national average of new cases up to just above 41,000. you can see that in the graph as we move up with the increase. more than half of the country, 28 states, seeing a trend of more new infections than the week before and the president with the highest marks for response to the pandemic despite
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knowing since at least february how dangerous the coronavirus is. >> we're rounding the corner. with or without a vaccine, they hate it when i say that but that's the way it is. we are rounding the corner on the pandemic and we have done a phenomenal job. not just a good job a phenomenal job. other than public relations but that's because of fake news. on public relations i give myself a "d." on the job ooiteat itself we ta a-plus. >> we are not rounding the turn. this isn't the end of the race here and grading himself an a-plus. what grade would you give him? >> a "f." all we have to do is look at the fact of 200,000 deaths in the u.s. we will have 200,000 more deaths by the end of the year if we go on the trajectory that we are at. none of this had to be this way.
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maybe you could say at the beginning of the pandemic mistakes were made, hindsight is 20/20 but we have known about the importance of a national coor mixed messaging has been actively destructive towards our procedures and our progress as a country. we have known for many months about quarantining, isolation, the basic public health measures that the president has not been supporting and we don't have a national strategy. we are not anywhere close to turning the corner but it didn't have to be this way and it doesn't have to be this way going forward but unfortunately it is heading in this direction given the leadership that the trump administration unfortunately has not exhibited. >> nothing is changing. it is incredibly frustrating. doctor, thank you so much. in just seven months america is on the verge of losing more than 200,000 lives to the coronavirus. for perspective, that is three
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nfl stadiums worth of mothers, fathers, sisters, sons and friends. three. that is more than the number of americans who died in world war i, the vietnam war, the wars in afghanistan and iraq combined in just seven months and as a nation continues to divide itself millions of americans worry they or the loved ones are next and grieving those who are gone. jonathan, a 32-year-old husband and father who wrote a good-bye note to his family before he died which his wife found on his phone. >> it bracks my heart and ib know he was so scared to miss out on them growing up and he didn't go feeling like he had done everything he needed to do. i know he left feeling scared and not wanting to go. >> barbara, a nurse, just days away from retirement and admitted to the same hospital where she cared for patients.
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>> she took so much joy and happiness of others and in our happiness and our success and that was most important to her. we are so proud of all she did and we're so fortunate to have her as long as we did. >> brittany 32, a beloved sister whose family says she had a kind heart. james, a 73-year-old dad and husband whose family says the best quality was that he was a good listener. >> we've been married 53 years, he was a workaholic. i used to tell him, look, you owe me fridays and fridays are my days and that had been our date day up until he passed. and we would go to the movies and he would always take me out to eat. which i loved to do. he's my best friend.
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>> augusta, 58, he had a wife, three children. they described him as a family man. he was a social worker and a youth basketball coach. benjamin, another youth coach, 42 years old. a married father of four. >> children just naturally gravitated towards him. he was just like a big kid himself. he was able to relate to them, be on their several no matter what level of skill the children had. whether they were just beginning, new to the team or they were the more experienced players. he was ability to connect with them. >> huce. >> he was a best papa that anybody could ask for him. he would do anything from playing dress-up, tea parties, riding bikes, trying to ride a bike. i miss his hugs.
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he had a way of like when you hugged him kind of like all of your stress released, like you felt safe. it was weird. now i don't feel so safe. he's not here to give me that hug either. >> joe, a 42-year-old husband who wrote his wife letters and left them in her lunchbox each day. >> i finally talked to a nurse and her words to me were, we have thrown the kitchen sink at him and i'm afraid he doesn't have anymore time. and so i said, then i need to be on facetime again. i need to be with him. she did and i thanked him. i thanked him for being the most amazing husband and for making me feel cherished and loved every single day and then the doctor took the phone. and he said, i'm sorry. but there's no more pulse.
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and then i played our wedding song for him. so i was with him when he passed. >> john, a 62-year-old storyteller whose family describes him as a trail blazer on wall street. >> he would give like these bear hugs that were like literally lift you up off the ground. he was always saying, i'm going to buy a house and mom a house and we used to be like, yeah, john, but, you know, he managed to do that. >> resa, a doctor whose kids remember their dad bringing home gifts from his patients. >> forever have a wedding or a big party, he was always just like dance crazily. >> just the things he does that would normally like just make me cringe or whatever, like, those are the things that i miss the
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most. >> bernice, a mother that loved to shop to give the others. >> the hardest thing is because i talk to my mom probably two or three times a day. taught me what unconditional love is. >> miss her. hole in our heart. best friend. >> conrad, a 39-year-old father and a dee yeah who loved dancing with his daughter. >> there's no discrimination when koit comes to this virus a seeing what my husband had to go through was horrible. i run to the hospital and never saw him again. i never got to say i love you. nothing. >> well, we always liked to watch the flash together. we just like shared everything. he brought me to school. he brought me to ballet. like he was my everything.
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i thought he was pretty cool. >> this is a nation of families grieving and sadly there is no end in sight as we are heading deeper into the fall. just add the situation overseas is serious as cases are doubling in the uk, plus the historic fight over whether president trump gets to feet the supreme court seat and may hinge on the outcome of a senate race and if republicans succeed, obamacare will likely be struck down. what happens to millions of americans who rely on it?
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open seat on the high court. the u.s. senate race between mcsally and challenger kelly may be the most consequential in this supreme court battle. mcsally was apointed and she is running in a special election to hold on to the seat permanently but trailing in the polls. according to the "arizona republic" if mark kelly wins, he could go to washington by the end of november. von winchet is a national reporter and joining us now. thank you for being with us. tell us what is shaping up, how's this race shaping up right now? what's it like from the ground? what are people saying? >> sure. all irndications is that the rae is tightening up. mark kelly as a former astronaut and husband of former
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representative gabrielle giffords is leading in the polls for months now. martha mcsally appointed following the death of senator mccain is running for the seat and since ginsburg's death she spent time over the weekend talking about how consequential this seat is. i would expect mark kelly to play up how consequential the supreme court pick could have on health care, which is a corn cornerstone to voters and climate change, something that he's been talking a lot about, particularly from the unique vantage point, talked about how he's seen the earth change from space. so expect both candidates to play this up and differently. mcsally is often talking about
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how this seat could really stand in the way of republicans majority in the senate and by all measures she is right. >> i wonder, with this vacancy on the court, is this a problem for mcsally? who does that play to more or is it clear? is this a better argument for mcsally to have that she would serve this role in assuring a nomination? >> i think it's really important to remember that mcsally and republicans here in arizona have been talking a lot for years now about the conservative judges that they have installed on the federal judiciary. that has not really been a message that's resonated in a meaningful way with moderate republicans and potential swing voters who have the ability to tip this race. back in 2018, when she wasn't in the senate but returning for former senator jeff flake's seat in the final stretch of that
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campaign she talked about why it was important to see brett kavanaugh on the supreme court and lost that race by 2.3 percentage points or 90,000 votes and needs to pick up those people she lost in 2018 or find new voters along the margins and in the suburbs of maricopa county. >> she has an uphill battle here. von sanchez, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. will republicans have enough votes? the white house will join me live next. two red carpet hosts testing positive for the coronavirus just before they were scheduled to be on the air for the emmys. and breaking news, the dow falling hard as fears of a second coronavirus wave rattles the markets. i felt like... ...i was just fighting an uphill battle in my career. so when i heard about the applied digital skills courses,
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trump had a much different view about who should make the call on a supreme court nominee in an election year. >> because i think the next president should make the pick and i think they shouldn't go forward and i believe -- i'm pretty much in line with what the republicans are saying. i think that the next president should make the pick. we don't have a very long distance to wait. certainly they could wait it out easily and the next president should make the pick. i would not be in favor of going forward. >> i warrant bring in brian morganstern. thank you for coming on. >> my pleasure. nice to be with you. >> you heard the president then candidate donald trump saying it himself, the next president should make the pick so why has he changed his mind this time? >> it is a different scenario. this time the republican majority which was expanded in 2018 returning on confirming constitutionalist judges is in
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charge, the president and the senate of the same party over history there have been 19 such vacancies, 17 of them have been confirmed. it is a different situation this time than it was last time. of course, president obama was term limited out, as well. president trump is on the ballot again this year, as well. along with a number of republican senators who again ran on the platform of confirming conservative constitutionalist judges as did the president. >> i understand the logistics here that you can do this. right? it is possible because you as a party control the senate and the white house. the question is should you? on the question of should you, then donald trump was clear, no. >> well, but president obama made his nomination as has ever single president 29 times throughout our history with a vacancy in an election year. that is his job.
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it is his obligation. the senate has a job to do which is to consider a nominee vetting them and rapidly. when the republican senate decided that they were not going to proceed in 2016 that was a constitutional prerogative just as it is now if they wish to proceed. >> but it is hypocrisy. >> it is not because the facts are fundmentally different. this president and the senators e lerkted on a platform of confirming constitutionalist judges, a different political makeup at the time and now the republican majority for the part of confirming justices and judges is in charge of the senate and president trump is in the white house. >> let's see if gop republicans agree with you on that. i'd like to roll some tape. >> i want you to use my words against me. if there's a republican president in 2016 and a vacancy
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occurs in the last year of the first term you can say graham said let's let the next president whoever it might be make that nomination and you could use my words against me and you would be absolutely right. we are setting a precedent here today, republicans are, that in the last year, at least of a lame duck eight-year term, i would say it's a four-year term, you won't fill a vacancy of the supreme court based on what we are doing here today. >> the next justice could altder the direction of the supreme court and have a profound impact on our country. so, of course, of course the american people should have a say in the court's direction. >> i don't think we should be moving forward on a nominee in the last year of this president's term. >> president obama's eager to appoint justice scalia's
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replacement. in the last 80 years not once has the senate confirmed a nomination made in an election year and now is no year to start. this is for the people to decide. i intend to make 2016 a referendum on the u.s. supreme court. >> brian? >> it was a referendum on the u.s. supreme court in that president trump released his list of well qualified, constitutionalist judges, the republican senators ran on confirming such judges. and justices. so this is about fundamental rights, a right to free speech, to practice religion, the right to bear arms, about really the bill of rights and preserving the god-given rights especially now where in our country we have a radical left that seems sbernt on destroying the institutions, defunding the police.
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>> i don't, i don't, that's nothing to do with the hypocrisy of republicans but talk about something that i think is clear that we probably agree on which is the consequences of this vacancy on the direction of the country could be hurge because f you fill this vacancy obamacare is likely dead so where is your plan to replace it? >> the president has taken a number of steps in the health care space. we have gone through the premise of hypocrisy. with respect to obamacare, the president is committed to protecting preexisting conditions, alluded to his expectative actions he can do in that regard. he has also tarekken steps to reduce drug prices, plans more affordable available to the american people, made telemedicine more available and about reducing costs, expanding access, especially with the measures he's already taken and said in the media in recenter
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weeks to have more to say on health care, and 100% committed to protecting prexsting conditions. >> people are voting. where is the plan? >> he has said -- the people can get a pretty good preview of the way the president views health care in this country and how to expand and reduce costs with steps and will -- >> brian, brian, listen, listen. listen to what he said less than a week ago, this is what he said about having a plan ready. >> you have been promising a new health care plan. i interviewed you in june of last year saying it would come in two weeks. you told chris wallace this summer in three weeks. >> i have it all ready. >> you have been trying to strike dourn preexisting conditions. >> i have it all ready and it is a much better plan for you. >> it is all ready. six days ago. where's the plan, brian? >> the president will roll it out when he is ready to do so
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and focus on expanding okaccess- >> brian, where is is the plan? we are six weeks from the election. he'll roll it out when he is ready? people are voting. he's been promising this for years. he is asking the supreme court in a moment that it will get soon to get rid of obamacare. he has to have something to replace that if he's going to make good on the promises. where is the plan? >> he's eliminated the individual man date, lowered prescription drug costs, expanded options. he's already expanded telemedicine and more to say orion the subject very soon. >> people with preexisting conditions -- no. well, there is no plan. these are expectative orders and on the issue of preexisting conditions, this isn't -- when the president talks about a plan, that -- it seems to be is a comprehensive plan. people are concerned. you heard this last week from
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voters. you're looking at aen estimated 12 million people in this pandemic who may be losing the employer provided insurance so where is the plan that they need and that they should have if we listen to what the president has said? where is the plan? >> i appreciate your persistence. you asked me the same question a number of times. >> i have gotten the answer no times. i have not gotten an answer. >> a more comprehensive view but you can get a preview already from the many comments he's made and actions taken. >> when? >> protecting preexisting conditions. he's lowered costs. >> when will he release the plan? >> soon. >> hess promising and blown past his own dead lines. before the election? >> he will be -- very soon. very transparent on this policy. the american people will never
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have to guess where president trump stands on a very important issue. >> they will have to guess where he stand on this issue. let's listen to what he's said over the summer about the timing of his plan. >> signing a health care plan within two weeks. a full and complete health care plan that the supreme court decision on daca gave me the right to do. we'll sign an immigration plan, a health care plan and various other plans and nobody will have done what i'm doing in the next four weeks. i want to say that we will be introducing a tremendous health care plan sometime prior -- hopefully prior to the end of the month. it is just about completed now. over the next two weeks i'm pursuing a major executive order of health insurance companies to cover all preexisting conditions for all customers. that is a big thing. >> i'll ask you geren, brian. the plan is long overdue. why is the plan not out?
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>> i don't know if you expected me to bring it with me here to this interview but the president will release it on his timeline very soon and will again -- >> no, no. brian, to be clear, brian, he put his time line out there. that's completely false. he is not releasing it on his tir timeline. >> there is a plan. he will describe it clearly to the american people. reduce costs and expand access and the american people will have a good look at it and will be pleased with it because -- >> how will he protect preexisting conditions, with an executive order? you know that's not how it works. >> he's already -- >> asking the supreme court to get rid of obamacare which protekts people with preexisting conditions. >> some of the best lawyers in the world and the country have helped him with it and very confident that with executive objection he can do that as he
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has already -- >> brian, if that were the case then presidents obama and clinton wouldn't have gone to congress. you can't just do that with an executive order. that's what the experts say but requires something more. >> i think other experts say differently. i'm not here to speak for president obama or clinton. he will do what it takes to protect preexisting conditions that would be better if we get congress on a bipartisan basis to help pass a comprehensive health care plan to do all these things that the president wants but to the extent they're not willing to play ball he'll use the thorauthority to expand acc and lower costs and protect preexisting conditions. >> people are already voting. several weeks here to the election and awaiting that plan long overdue from the president.
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europe is now seeing a dangerous second wave with new daily cases reaching record highs, the number of covid cases doubles every seven days. for more headlines around the globe let's check in with our international correspondents. >> i'm scott mclean in london where officials say that the uk turned a corner on the virus in a bad way. the's limits on social gatherings and not clear if they had much of an impact. officials say the virus is doubling in new cases every seven days which could mean the country's on track to have 50,000 cases per day in just a month, more than the united states even. the british health secretary warned this weekend that brits should following the rules in place or expect them to be striktder and didn't rule out
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the possibility of a second national lockdown. >> i'm fred pleitgen in germany where munich is one of the new hotspots for the coronavirus here in this country. the city administration says it's taking new measures to try to come to terms with this, making mask wearing mandatory in public spaces even if they are outside. there's a flurry of other measures, including limiting the amount of people who can conglomerate together in private and also in public settings. of course, now's a special time in that part of jegermany, normally oktoberfest is kirking o -- kicking off but that's canceled. although new zealand prime minister's is hailed for the handling of the virus she admitted she made a mistake when a picture with supporters,
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facing a general election on october 17th, a new zealand is easing the covid-19 restrictions and restrictions in auckland, the epicenter of a fresh outlook. the prime minister said that the virus is under control. >> thank you, everyone, for those reports. the dow is down hundreds of points, down 744 points right now. this is tied to fear over the coronavirus, plus president trump baselessly casting doubt on ruth bader ginsburg's dying wish suggesting that democrats likely made it up. no tomatoes.. [hard a] tonight... i'll be eating four cheese tortellini with extra tomatoes. [full emphasis on the soft a] so its come to this? [doorbell chimes] thank you. [doorbell chimes] bravo. careful, hamill. daddy's not here to save you. oh i am my daddy.
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amid a vacancy on the supreme court, the dow is down 760 points. for a closer look, i want to bring in business anchor, and stocks are getting hammered here and in the u.s., they're getting hammered overseas. >> i .3 things out to you at this stage. rising covid cases in europe and in the united states. a reminder the virus remains well and truly present. the battle lines being drawn over the supreme court nominee, it's a vitally important issue but i think investors are thinking short term it's a huge distraction when the debate should be about desperately needed financial aid for american families and the final thing is tech stocks.
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they have become so important to this market. they represent around a quarter nof s&p 500. amazon, apple, facebook. they've had a stinker of a time in september and when they go down, the broader market goes down. and they're also struggling today. so, these are all the things investors are grappling with. you called it jitters. it's high-level jitters. the red looks bad on the board but we're still around 7 or 8% away from recent record highs. so, it looks bad but relatively minor in the grand scheme of things, at least for now. >> i'm stealing that from you, a stinker of a time. so well put. thank you so much for that. the u.s. is on the verge of reaching reaching 200,000 coronavirus deaths. how is the president
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gimme two minutes. eligible for medicare. and i'll tell you some important things to know about medicare. first, it doesn't pay for everything. say this pizza... [mmm pizza...] is your part b medical expenses. this much - about 80 percent... medicare will pay for. what's left... this slice here... well... that's on you. and that's where an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company comes in. this type of plan helps pay some of what medicare doesn't. and these are the only plans to carry the aarp endorsement. that's because they meet their high standards of quality and service. wanna learn more? it's easy. call unitedhealthcare insurance company now and ask... for this free decision guide. inside you'll find the range of aarp medicare supplement plans and their rates. apply any time, too. oh. speaking of time... about a little over half way
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and there's more to tell. like, how... with this type of plan, you'll have the freedom to choose any doctor who accepts medicare patients. great for staying with the one you know... or finding... somebody new, like a specialist. there are no networks and no referrals needed. none. and when you travel, your plan will go with you anywhere in the country. so, if you're in another state visiting the grandkids, stay awhile... enjoy... and know that you'll still be able to see any doctor who accepts medicare patients. so call unitedhealthcare today. they are committed to being there for you. tick, tick, tick, time for a wrap up. a medicare supplement plan helps pay some of what medicare doesn't. you know, the pizza slice. it allows you to choose any doctor, who accepts medicare patients... and these are the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. whew! call unitedhealthcare today and ask for this free decision guide.
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... the entire time, you got this! okay, less talking and more doing. all driven by the largest gig speed network in america. and even if the power goes down, your connection doesn't. but what if no one's in the office? bring the office to them. but is it secure? sure it's secure. okay, sounds great. so how do i do this? you don't do this. we do this, together. bounce forward, with comcast business. it is the top of the hour. i'm brianna keilar and we have breaking news involving the cdc. the agency just abruptly removed information on how the virus is transmitted. it said it was, quote, posted in error. and this is on the day the country is expected to reach
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200,000 covid deaths. the virus can spread even if a person is beyond six feet from another person. there is growing evidence droplets and airborne particles can be breathed in by others and travel distances beyond six feet, for example in choir practice and restaurants and gyms. now the cdc page has returned to saying covid is thought to spread mainly within people in close contact, in six feet. i want to bring in doctor, who works at new york university hospital and she lost her dad to covid. right now she is a vaccine trial volunteer. dr. purnell, it's good to see you again. look at what we're seeing here, this changing in the guidance. what is your reaction to
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