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americans. these aren't just numbers, they're people, timothy montgomery, a 56-year-old pop artist and actor who everybon appeared on "stranger things" and leaves behind a son and six sisters and brothers. >> everybody say smile and happ personality, no matter what the situation was. he wanted to be remembered for doing something special or -- >> he blessed this world on top of the world. >> they are ann-marie roban, a phenomenal cook who worked at the federal reserve bank in new york, raising five children after emigrated from trinidad. >> she was a kind person, giving person. she loved to cook, travel and she loved her politics. she absolutely loved politics. she would talk to anybody about politics all day. she watched cnn literally all
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day. >> they're bobby barber from washington who loved his family dearly. >> my grandfather's pass, they lost a great man. he was someone who would give the shirt off his back to anyone and would help anyone whenever he had the opportunity and the chance to do so. >> they are ellen shriner, a hospice nurse for 45 years who loved nascar and scrapbooking. >> when they took my sister out we were able to be in the room with her. her eyes opened just a little bit, a tear ran down her face and it looked like she was trying to say good-bye or i love you or something and we both had to tell her it was okay. it was okay. she'd done everything we asked her to do and it was okay for her to go.
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she wasn't off the vent 20 minutes and she died. >> they are ramone roman, a father of four and a police department volunteer. >> although he is gone in body he remains within his friends and family in spirit. we hope he finds some solace in knowing that some of his greatest qualities have been engraved in his oldest son ricardo roman, rest in peace, dad. we love you. >> they are sharee an elementary school teacher who loved to travel. >> the world is lessened because her presence is no longer here and we are heartbroken. and i will remember most her love because even when i was alone she loved me. >> they were julius bowens from
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brooklyn whose children were his pride and joy. >> he was a very laid back guy who likes to sit on the porch and talk to the neighbors. the neighbors won't come up the stoop anymore because they're like he is supposed to be there. from the u.p.s. man to the sanitation men. >> they are alfredo and susan sa, married for 44 years, she was admitted to the hospital shortly after her husband and they died in separate rooms a few days apart. >> it's beyond hurt. it's beyond pain. you know? losing one parent is hard enough but losing both of them is just tragic because our parents, they're our world. you know? we put them on the pedestal and my parents are my life. i have so many blessed with them because my dad was only waiting for my mom to retire and this was the year they're supposed to
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retire. >> dr. anthony fauci reflecting on the unprecedented loss of life in a sbn interview with dr gupta today. >> the idea of 200,000 deaths is really very sobering and in some respects stunning. we have the capability by doing things that we have been speaking about for so long, sanjay, that could prevent the transmission, the universal wearing of masks, the attention to keeping distance, the avoiding of crowds, the trying to stay outdoors more than indoors, frequent washing of hands, they sound so simple. we said them so many times but they're not universally implemented and employed. >> and on trump giving himself an a-plus for handling of the virus, fauci the expert had this to say. >> they're not helpful.
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take a look and make up your own mind. we don't need a surrouound bite me. take a look at the numbers. >> along with the heartbreaking death toll, 24 states are experiencing an increase in new cases. this is compared to just last week. bring in dr. jorge rodriguez. 200,000 americans are now dead from the coronavirus. what do you make of how the country has handled this pandemic as we experience a larger loss of life than any other nation in the world? >> first of all, let me commend cnn for putting faces to the numbers because these are husbands, wives, children. we've obviously not handled it as well as we can. we know that if we had acting more quickly, sooner we could be
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saying 50,000 of the lives that had been lost saved and it is outrageous and almost immoral. the sort of slight of hand that says nothing is really wrong. you don't have to worry unless you're one of the weak people that has medical conditions. you know? that predisposes you to die from covid. we know that medically that's absolutely not true. anyone can get this virus. anyone can get seriously ill and die from this. and on top of that, everybon if don't and survive it, you can spread it to unlucky people. politically, you know, you saw the families of people that died. this is not just about the 200,000 people that are no longer voters. you cannot keep the truth from the family members, the friends of the people that suffered and died.
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the truth is this affects anybody and this this is serious. >> you think of the ripple effect. 2 200,000 people and then increases exponentially because of the folks that know those folks that are gone, the lives damaged and transformed because of the loss. dr. fauci said this about the country's need to contain the virus at this point. >> when you have a very low baseline and you start to get the blips as i call them, you don't want them to turn into surges or rebound. we have to keep the slope coming down and you look at where you are in what region of the country and acting accordingly. we have to be in this together. when you have weak links in the chain and some components of
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society are not doing it, it just makes it very difficult for the rest. >> i wonder, doctor, what point do we have a chance at reducing the numbers? when we talk about what can be done to reduce the infections. >> right now we are at the point where we can reduce the numbers, right now we can do something if we act in a unified way. if you look at the successes of new zealand, of certain parts of canada, it is because they saw this as a country wide issue. not just as a red or a blue issue. and dr. fauci is right. we need to keep the baseline low so that when the surges happen, and they are going to happen, we need to minimize those. listen. it is all about the weakest link in the chain and i'm so glad he said it just like that. >> i want to also, you mentioned
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this before, this idea of who can become infected because this is something that the president said. here are his words. >> now we know it. it affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems and other problems. if they have other problems. that's what it really affects. that's it. you know, in some states thousands of people, nobody young. below the age of 18. like nobody. it affects virtually nobody. it's an amazing thing. >> it's completely wrong. it affects nobody under a certain age? it will affect everybody. if you don't -- if you have the luck of not becoming seriously ill, you are also somebody that will carry it and spread it to somebody that does. the virus affects everybody, has affected people of automobill a
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genders in this country. almost a million people in this world died of this. this is not just a joke and not just about certain people and seems if the message is basically, you know what? only the weak will die. let the strong survive. may the odds be ever in your favor. it is about people and we are all responsible for ourselves and the people around us. that's incredible. >> yeah. dr. rodriguez, thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. now let's talk about the election, just a few days fbi director wray warned that russia is actively working to attack the november election and denigrate joe biden and now learning that russian president vladimir putin is likely personally ok personally okrchestrating this effort. an assessment lays this out saying we assess that president vladimir putin and the senior most russian officials are aware of and probably directing
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russia's influrns operations supporting the u.s. president and fueling public discord ahead of the u.s. election in november. i'm joined by former white house ethics czar and former ambassador to the czech republic norman isaac and thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me back, brianna. >> let's listen to what the president said, he was talking about vladimir putin just last night, and a few days ago at two cam pan rallies in key battle ground states. >> we have been very rough but at the same time we get along. i like putin. we lirks me. we get alorng. isn't it smart to get along? smart. somebody said he gets along with putin. i'm saying to myself, isn't that sort of a good thing? is that bad? he gets along with putin!
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that's a bad thing. but you know, you saw the head of the fbi yesterday saying russia is looking at the election. russia. here we go again. >> yeah, it is bad. right? we know that he is getting along with someone meddling with the election. why is this a problem that he gets along with putin as he puts it and doesn't say to putin, get out of this? >> when you have an american president who greets the 2016 attack on our elections by russia, the continued assaults by russia after that, including allegedly paying bounties for the killing of american soldiers and now once again russia preparing to attack our elections and when an american president says, we get along, the message that that sends is appeasement, impunity.
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no wonder putin is assessed as like likely directing another attack against our current. trump is encouraging it. i can't use strong enough words to say this is treasonist by an american president to behave this way. what a shock if there could be any shocks left in the era of trump, those statements would shock you but we all see who we're dealing with as the president of the united states when it comes to russia. tragic, horrible. >> i want to ask you about something we learned, robert mueller's top directeputies sayt they could have done more and essentially pulled a punch or more than a punch. he said they could have subpoenaed trump, they could have interviewed ivanka trump and donald trump jr. and didn't. what is your response to that?
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>> well, it's more evidence of the case that i argued to the american people in my book. i make the identical point that -- i make that point precisely to -- because we are now coming to the voters to pass judgment on donald trump that robert mueller fell short and in that timidity which weissman was rightly upset about within the team, we could see it from the outside when i served among the impeachment counsel for the house judiciary committee, when we tried to negotiate to get bob mueller to come in. the same deputy that weissman charges with this risk averse strategy was the one we negotiated with and it was a similar failure to act and i write in the book about the tragedy, why was donald trump not required to testify as previous presidents have been so
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he could be asked questions about the subject matter, including of our first part of our conversation, his disturbing relationship to russia. so we saw the identical things including as weissman writes in his book the proof of obstruction of justice. it was in the report. bill barr helped conceal it but mueller's timidity had a lot to do with the american people not presented squarely with that case and why i wrote my book to make the case to them to take it into account as they pass the ultimate judgment on the president. >> norm, thank you for coming on. we appreciate it. >> always a pleasure. mitt romney paving the way for republicans to confirm a supreme court justice before the election. and democrats are saying that this will destroy the senate. plus, a fox news doctor wildly speck lats that joe biden
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be made up by doing something which also wouldn't make sense saying to president trump you condition get your nominee either that doesn't follow for me. the decision to proceed is also consistent with history and precedent and where i come out. >> david french is senior editor of "the dispatch" and joining us now and author of "divided we fall." you have written a recent column where you describe that country that's cracking. tell us what the end point or process of that is to you. is that a civil war? >> no, i don't think -- in my book i don't write about a civil war but hating each other, keep increasing the polarization it is something more like a strained and fractured marriage that could end in divorce and
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what i point out in my book is we are now in a place where a lot of americans live clustered in like-minded communities and then when they gather together they get more extreme and all the data is out there about the increasing hatred that americans have for people across the ideological lines and you see that spill out in politics, spill out sometimes in the streets and we're seeing it spill out in the intensity of this judicial nomination fight and every side escalates and with an opportunity to choose do we de-escalate or escalate? we are escalating continually and i want people to realize you cannot keep growing apart as a country and presume that everything's going to be okay. >> i want to -- this idea of a fractured society certainly is something that fiona hill, president trump's former top
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russia adviser agrees with you on. >> so i have to say very bluntly to everybody who's watching and listening to this, we are increasingly an object of pity especially by the allies because they're shocked by how we eat ourselves alive by the divisions. we are creating this. it is not the russians or the chinese. >> what do you think that means for the standing of america in the world? >> obviously if you look at the scenes in american street, the rhetoric in american politics, if we saw that in another country we would say that's a country in distress, that is a country that is unacceptably divided, a country in some degree of danger but we have grown accustomed to this punch them in the mouth style of politics without really understanding what that's doing to us as a people and one of the
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reasons why i wrote the book is i want people to say, wait a minute, maybe winning, throwing that next punch is not worth the cost to the country, that we need people to step forward who are thinking in not just a long term but the medium term about lowering the national temperature, creating a -- restoring a sense that actual political compromise can be something desirable in the body politics instead of a zero sum based driven political strategy that often rewards the punched and mocks and scorns any attempt at resill yags. i grew up in red america and this is a dynamic that i see orion the right side of the aisle all around me and any attempt at reconciliation is scorned as weakness and the punch is strength and if we keep going in that cycle that's
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terrible consequences for our culture and country. >> definitely. david, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your thoughts with us. >> thank you so much for having me. the nfl fining some coaches for not wearing masks. plus i'll be speaking with someone who survived 100 days in the hospital on a ventilator battling the coronavirus. she's only 35. now is the time for a new bath from bath fitter.
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they say when money talks people listen and the nfl hopes hefty fines imposed on the teams and head coaches will do the trick. the penalty for failure to wear face masks sunday. andy shoals has the details. >> reporter: nfl is not messing around. coming down hard on three coaches seen not wearing the mask on the sidelines over the weekend. a source telling cnn the broncos, seahawks and others hit
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with a fine and the team with a $250,000 fine, as well. last night the raiders and saints coaches were seen not wearing masks, fines likely coming their way. gruden apologized revealing he's had covid-19. all coaches and team personnel are required to wear a mask on the side lines and the nfl warned teams after week one if they did not comply they would receive severe penalties. >> andy, thank you so much. joining me now to talk ashtd the preponderance of the evidence response of the nfl is jonathan jones. jonathan, that is -- that's a lot of money. do you think that these fines are going to work in forcing the coaches and teams to take this more seriously? >> yeah, certainly money talks here and so you warrant nt to h coaches where this hurts. the nfl understands its role and
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responsibility in all of this. it is the most visible sport in north america, most watched product there is on television, and so they want the coaches obviously shown what these super closeups, the coaches not wearing helmets, otherwise can wear masks, not that difficult, wanting to hide the faces any way and they don't see the play call coming in and shouldn't be that difficult and seeing across the board, a lot of koecoaches don't have much of an issue with it but the three coaches hit with fines and two last night previously had covid and likely will be fined and a shot across the bow that they won't toll late this. >> the nfl reported zero new covid cases among its players last week. i wonder if you're surprised by that when they don't have a bubble like the nba does.
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>> right. the nfl can't because of just the massive infrastructure that would be necessary for one team let alone several or even 32 and they released numbers of september 13th through the 19th that they tested more than 2,600 players almost daily and got 5 confirmed cases with staffers but very impressive numbers showing me that they are really ta taking seriously this social contract that they want to keep each other safe, they want the season to happen and we've seen since they reported to camp in late july they take it seriously and the nfl is concerned that what happens when teams, super bowl aspirations are dashed and everyone 1-1 right now turns into 2-6, are you still a strong not going out to bars and not
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put yourself and teammates in danger? that is to be determined but so far an incredible job by the nfl and the players. >> yeah. good news for players and fans. the league separately on a different issue made a very big show of solidarity this season, supporting social issues like the black lives matter movement. how's the league doing so far do you think? >> so far so good. they're doing what they can right now i believe. they're putting money at causes that they have heard from players that they want the money directed to. they're painting end zones with some phrases that people may believe like -- stop hate or end racism and may roll our eyes at now it's done but now coaches are wearing black lives matter patches and they're putting that on broadcasts and so that is
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important. unfortunately for the nfl, certainly unfortunately for colin kaepernick they can't undo what was done to him and certainly top 64 if you want to include backups and ever since he did not have a job since leaving san francisco there is no good on the field reason why he is not and the nfl may want to say we messed up and heard from him and it would be great to say, well, you know, everything he was saying was true and should have listened to him at that time but what the nfl can do right now, the players absolutely want the league and the team owners to use their political influence and leverage to hold officers accountable when they step out, obviously, you want to be, those in power to use that power and that's what they have been listening to and the players requesting. >> jonathan jones, thank you so much for coming on. >> thanks. the cdc issuing new guidance
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more than 200,000 americans have died because of the coronavirus. but of the nearly 7 million who have tested positive and survived some called covid long haulers are still battling the virus and unsure when or if they'll fully recover. one is 35-year-old heather elizabeth brown battling for months. this detroit area police chaplain and corporate trainer spent more than a month on a ventilator and intensive care and about 100 days in the hospital recovering and rehabbing from the virus and everyone thousand several months after the diagnosis brown struggles with the life changing issues brought on by this disease. heather elizabeth brown is joining us now to talk about
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what she has been through and it's been a lot. so it is wonderful to see you, that you have pulled through this but you have the continuing challenges that you are dealing with. tell us about how you're doing. >> absolutely. thank you so much for having me. i have had challenges dealing with the aftereffects of covid and hospitalization. i'm doing well now, the best that i can. i have all sorts of therapy and doctor's appointments i go to and take it one day at a time continuing to have faith in god and get stronger as i do. >> what is the most limiting factor? what is the physical struggle making your daily life tough? >> i would say that the afteraffects coming to breathing and energy are two of the biggest struggles that i have. i have issues with breathing. i work on breathing exercises every day but the breath support is not there. simple things like getting up
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the stairs or walking to my car or outside to get something winds me and the fatigue factor is a big part of the after effects of this disease. i can't get through a whole day without lying down and rest because i'm exhausted from doing every day simple tasks like, you know, getting a shower or making breakfast. >> that is incredibly frustrating to imagine going through that and you have come a long way, you were in a coma for more than a month. >> yes. >> do you mean anythiremember a about being in the coma and waking up? >> i actually the funny thing is i don't remember anything about being in the coma for the 31 days, i don't even remember the day of being actually placed on the ventilator. the only way i'm able to piece it together is text messages and from conversations i have had with people who spoke to me. i just remember having a lot of
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vivid dreams and nightmares while i was in the coma and then just kind of waking up and being very surprised and shocked it's 31 days later, a totally different month so that's shocking. >> yeah. that all that time had passed and i wonder now from your vantage point heather-elizabeth, what do you want people to know about covid? >> i want people to know that it is a real disease, it is not fake, no made up, not a conspiracy. it is communicable and can be doing rousz. i didn't have any prexsting conditions and i still ended up on a ventilator for 31 days and close to losing my life but for the grace of god. for other people with coexisting conditions or comorbidities there's a very big factor and a risk to their health and i want everyone to know it's not over. we still need to social distance
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. president trump has spent months cynically and baselessly questioning whether joe biden is with it. now he's trying a different tactic, trying to raise expectations about how well joe biden should perform in the first debate next week. >> i think he's a professional. i don't know if he's all there, but i think he's a professional. i have to assume that he's a professional, and that he can debate. maybe that would work if the president himself had not been saying this about biden on repeat for the entirety of the campaign. >> i think he's a professional, i don't know if he's all there. >> biden doesn't know he's alive. >> i say he's not competent to be president. to be president you have to be sharp, tough, so many other things. joe doesn't know he's alive, okay? he doesn't know he's alive. biden can't put two sentences
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together. >> totally baseless. and now one week to the first debate president trump, who is the most prominent purveyor of conspiracy theories in america is floating this one about joe biden. >> i got a debate coming up with this guy. no, no. you never know. you never know. they gave him a big fat shot in the ass and he comes out and for two hours he's better than ever before. the problem is what happens after that? nah. we'll ask for a drug test. we are. i'd like to have a drug test. both of us. i'll take it. he'll take it. >> joe biden has not yet agreed to a drug test. >> let's get this straight. trump has been baselessly claiming that biden is not with it for months now, now he's so in doubt about why biden is so with it covering all his bases, i guess, he's saying if you think biden seems normal, it's because it's drug induced?
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this has no basis in fact. he's just making stuff up. but it's designed to make you wonder, to creep into your head and stick. because that's how conspiracy theories take hold. he's planting a seed and his state-run news channel and it's on-staff doctor is watering the hell out of it. >> so now president trump says, you know, we should have drug testing before debates. and i'm thinking why would he be saying that? well, let me tell you one reason, tucker. there's a study that shows for people who have mild cognitive thinking or memory problems, you know what helps? speed. you know what helps? ed a adderall. these drugs can help in low dose for short periods of time. look, in the olympics we're testing athletes, baseball games, we don't want anybody to juice. we're looking for competitive advantage. we're analyzing that. we want to make sure nobody takes advantage. >> why would trump be saying that about biden, dr. siegel
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asks? because trump has shown he plays dirty and tries to win at all costs what about dr. siegel? he's supposed to be taa doctor. siegel is paid actual money by a network with the word "news" in its title. not about spreading the word on keep people safe during a pandemic, but to weaponize his medical credentials against a presidential candidate. let's rerack the tape. there's one thing the good doctor said that we should put credence in. >> now i have not examined the former vice president. i don't have a clinical diagnosis to make. >> well he should have stopped there. remember, this is the same doctor who was impressed with president trump being able to repeat a string of five words. >> 30 or 35 questions, the first questions are easy. the last questions are much more
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difficult. like a memory question. it's like you'll go person, woman, man, camera, tv. so they'd say could you repeat that? so i said, yeah. it's person, woman, man, camera tv. okay. that's very good. but then when you go back about 20, 25 minutes later and they say go back to that question. they don't tell you this, go back to that question. repeat them. can you do it? you go person, woman, man, camera tv. they say, that's amazing. how did you do that? i do it because i have, like, a good memory. because i'm cognitively there. >> and mark siegel is the before who gave this medical advice to millions of fox news viewers, most of whom are older and thus more vulnerable to the coronavirus.
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first details about the first presidential debate one week from tonight. moderator chris wallace revealing the topics which include the coronavirus, the records of each candidate, the economy, the supreme court, race and violence in u.s. cities and the integrity of the election. the first debate including six 15-minute segments. it's the top of the hour. 200,000 americans have died from coronavirus. that is higher than the number of combat deaths in the country's five most recent wars combined. the number is staggering. but it don't tell the full story. it doesn't encapsulate what has been taken from this country and the families now missing their loved ones. here are a few of their stories.
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