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also tonight, the mayor released a video statement saying he still has no idea in terms of what the attorney general is going to do or say in terms of timing in terms of that grand jury. still waiting for that. he says whatever happens with the grand jury, the city will get through it together. >> thank you as we await those charges any moment. thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. good ervening tonight. when asked about the fact more than 200,000 people died of covid on his watch, here is what the president said and did not say about that horrific milestone. >> i think it's a shame. i think if we didn't do it properly and do the right, you'd have 2.5 million deaths. if you take a look at alternatives, you could have 2.5 million deaths or something there about. but it's a horrible thing. should have never ever happened.
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china let this happen and just remember that. >> china let it happen. it's a shame he said but it's china's fault but at least it's not 2.5 million dead. that was it. it's hard to know where to begin with all that. his press secretary said this today. >> he has said before that it keeps him up at night thinking of even one life lost. this president has taken this incredibly seriously. >> that's kaley. she said her boss was up saying this yesterday. >> we didn't know it. now we know it. it affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems and other problems if they have other problems, that's what it really affects. that's it. you know, in some states, thousands of people, nobody young below the age of 18 like
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nobody. they have a strong immune system. who knows. take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system but it affects virtually nobody. it an amazing thing. by the way, open your schools. everybody open your schools. [ cheers ] >> it affects elderly people. that's it he says. among anyone else it affects virtually nobody in his words. virtually nobody. actually, mr. president, it has affected and sickened and killed people in every age group from toddlers to the oldest americans. we've seen college football players develop heart issues and children get strokes and people of all ages get sick. it certainly is deadlier to seniors but anyone can get sick and anyone can pass it on to other people. if you believe that it only affects elderly people as the president said, meaning it kills them are elderly people now disposable in this society? is that the country we now want to live in?
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if so, the president might want to look in the mirror or get on a scale because he is elderly and obesity is an underlying condition. the president knows what he said isn't true. he's known it for months. keeping them honest, he himself said so to bob woodward in march. >> now it turning out it's not just old people, bob. today and yesterday startling facts came out. it's not just older -- >> exactly. >> plenty of young people. >> it's plenty of young people he said on march 19th when 265 people died. perhaps when the president said that he was maybe trying to impress bob woodward with his knowledge or make the accomplishment of tackling the pandemic that much more impressive when it actually happened. except that victory has not come yet. because whatever the president's motivations were for saying what he said, he never publicly said or acted on what he knew. and even as the outbreak grew, he kept sounding the alarm privately about the virus
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publicly would magically disappear. >> this thing is a killer. if you're the wrong person, you don't have a chance. >> yes, yes, exactly. >> a friend of mine died. very great real estate developer from manhattan died yesterday. >> listen, students of mine, i teach a journalism seminar have written me have had it and one of the women said she had it. they said she was cured and they kept coming back with new symptoms, strange things happened. she had intense headaches. she -- >> what happened? >> she's in agging agony and th telling her, oh, you're cured now. you're over it. so this -- i mean, you said it. this is a skorge. >> it's the plague. >> that was mid april when about 30,000 americans died and
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privately he sounded like he understood the threat for what it was. again, though, he said nothing at the time that it might have honestly alerted the public or did anything to protect them. he said he was tweeting in all caps on april 17th, lib maerate minnesota, liberate michigan and virginia. he was tweeting that with 30,000 of his fellow americans dead and many more dying. with another 170,000 dead since then, the president keeps holding rallies like this one tonight in pittsburgh floating social distancing guidelines mocking people for wearing a mask. as he does, new cases in this country have started rising from a baseline that was high to begin with. 52,000 reported yesterday. look at the map. new cases up 10 to 50% in 16 states. up more than 50% in eight. the ones in deep red. they are steady in 20 states and dropping in only six. today the day more than 200,000 people he took an oath to protect have died, the president again had nothing but praise for
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the job he's done. >> i think we've done an amazing job. they're having a spike in europe now, as you know, and we're always compared to europe and we've done very welcome paired to europe. in my opinion, we're rounding the turn. >> rounding the turn. he said that yet again. yesterday he gave himself an a plus on the job talking today with the cnn's sanjay gupta dr. anthony fauci had this response how to grade the president. >> take a look at the numbers and make up your own mind. i mean, you know, we don't need a sound byte from me. take a look at the numbers. >> dr. fauci said this about covid and younger patients. >> it isn't just the elderly and those with underlying conditions. because it can be serious in young people, true people with underlying conditions but those are not just isolated at the
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elderly. there are plenty of younger people who have underlying conditions that put them at risk. >> again, the president knew this, said so to bob woodward in march but kept the truth from the public. dr. fauci has not. he addressed the death toll today. >> the idea of 200,000 deaths is really very sobering and in some respects, stunning. >> if the president is in any way sobered by the same milestone that sobered and stunned the expert in the field, he's showing few signs of it. truly feeling the impact after all might mean acknowledging the terrible scale of it and also the individual ity and unique value of every life lost. everything in short that makes us all somebody. >> but it affects virtually nobody. it's an amazing thing. >> dr. feigen was just 28 years old. she was in her second year of an ob/gyn residency at a hospital
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in houston where she also worked the front lines caring for covid patients. in july she tested positive. by august she was on a ventilator and last week she seemed to be turning a corner and on friday night she developed bleeding in her brain and died early saturday with her parents by her side. her parents brant and mary jane feigen join us now. i'm sorry for your loss. it's beyond words. mary jane, if you could, i'd love people to know more about adaline. what was she like? >> well, adaline is our second oldest and she was very busy. she was very inquisitive. she was always from a very young age a people person. she loved to talk. she was an early talker. so she had quite a personality right from the time she was very
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young and it just developed into what she was today. and she was delightful. i mean, people loved her, and she loved to talk to people of all ages, particularly older people. just because they had a lot of experience. they experienced, you know, hardship, joy, and she just was very pleased to be around people. >> brant, the picture of her holding a baby, is that the first baby she delivered? >> yes, that's the first baby she delivered as a resident. >> wow. that must -- did she always want to be a doctor? >> since she was 5 she would runaround with a setethoscope around her neck. >> a real one? >> no, a toy. >> when she was 11 she had a terrible illness and ended up in
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a wheelchair and went to a doctor who talked to her like a real human being, like an adult practically and from that day on, she said she wanted to be a doctor to help people like that doctor helped her. >> that changed the course of her life. >> yes. yes, it did. that one visit to that doctor changed her life. >> brant, you wrote something i want to read to people. if you can do one thing, be an adaline in the world and help those less fortunate, have a smile on your face, a laugh in your heart and a disney tune on your lips. i've been reading about her. she did so much in her time, you know, in her 28 years, it's extraordinary. she went to haiti multiple times and helped so many people. >> that's what she loved to do.
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she went to haiti four times on medical missions to help bring medical care to the haitians that lived too far outside the city to get any. she worked as a cna before she went to medical school and, you know, we've heard from a doctor in florida whose mother adaline took care of and touched her. she just loved to help people. she really, really did and that's what she saw was her goal in life was to help women especially but help people, under privileged people. >> mary jane, i know one of the things that i've talked to so many families who have experienced a loss is often times it seems like somebody is sort of on making amend or has made a turn for the better and then they don't and i know adaline was in the hospital for more than two months. she was on a ventilator since
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early august. you were able to be there at the end, which so many families aren't, that's god to be a blessing considering the alternativ alternatives. >> yes, yes, it was. but we were also very fortunate in the sense that before adaline had turned really ill, she had her cell phone, and we made sure when she was at hca, the first hospital, we communicated non-stop with her because she was so incredibly flightrighten. not everyone talking. we kept the phone and went around our business so she knew we were connected since we couldn't go in. when she was transported to memorial hermann, we had spoken to one of the nurses and said, could we since we cannot come in, could we at least just talk to her? we couldn't see her but we wanted to talk. so every night before we went to bed, we basically went over what our day was like and then we
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said we loved her. then as she progressed a little bit more, the doctors or the nurses were willing to turn on her face time and we were able to see her for a little bit. most loved ones can't do that. i mean, it just how it felt into place with her phone, it gave us great comfort and on tuesday, the week that she passed away, we were allowed to go in just for 15, 20 minutes and she was very -- she had a lot of sedation and that day she was very sleepy but if i kept saying adaline open your eyes, she would do it and i am so incredibly thankful that we had the opportunity because she before i left so my husband could see her, i said adaline
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can you give me a kiss? she puckered her lips and she met my lips and i will forever remember that. that was probably the biggest gift i've ever had and that was the last time i -- other than the night that we got the call that she had a brain bleed, my husband and i chose not to pursue any further surgery because she was so far gone. there was just so much blood that no amount of skilled physician or technology was ever going to make her better and so i basically held her until the very end and that was pretty much it, you know. so we are very thankful that we had that opportunity. so many parents have not been able to and it breaks my heart.
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>> yeah. my mom died a little more than a year ago and i was able to be there at the end and it's -- i'm very grateful for that chance. >> uh-huh. yeah. this disease has robbed us in so many ways not just because of her love but the fact we couldn't go in there to be with her and she was so incredibly frightened, she was kind of, you know, being in the medical field, she knew what was ahead of her, and that just made matters worse for her. and now we're getting ready to arrange her funeral arrangements and then again, we aare having difficulty because of covid, things you can do and can't do. covid continues to wreck our lives and everyone else's lives. >> brent, is there anything else you want people out there to
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know about adaline or anything she would want people to think about for about covid? >> well, i know she would want everybody to think of the other person. you know, wear your mask. social distance. do these things that are recommended to keep people safe. you don't have to want to protect yourself. but at least want to protect somebody else. it may be your mailman. it may be your doctor or your nurse or your neighbor. you're doing it for other people, not necessarily yourself. that's what everyone should be doing. >> well, she sounds like an amazing person, and just talking to you both, i can tell where she got an awful lot of that from you and your strength is extraordinary and in your grief, i appreciate you taking the time to talk with us and let us know about adaline and what a loss
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for all of us. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> we wish you peace in the days ahead brant and marcy jane feigen. thank you. still to come we have breaking news on president trump's supreme vacancy and more on the pandemic and all the latest news. after the break, a profile discussion of who sources say is the front runner judge amy barrett and top cia assessment on russia's attempts to disrupt the 2020 election. i'll speak to the reporter who broke the story tonight. the united states postal service is here to deliver your packages. and the peace of mind of knowing that important things like your prescriptions, and ballots, are on their way. every day, all across america, we'll keep delivering for you.
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breaking news, the president will announce his supreme court nominee this saturday. the overwhelming favor was back at the white house for a second time today. judge amy coney barrett is one of five candidates and her prospects became stronger after senator mitt romney said he'll join fellow republicans to proceed with a vote almost ensuring confirmation barring any misstep by the nominee. more now on judge barrett from pamela brown. >> reporter: officials tell cnn trump seemed very enthusiastic about amy coney barrett after a be meeting yesterday at the white house that lasted several hours. after the meeting the president telling people he believes she will be very well received by quote his people. barrett began her career as a law clerk for late justice scalia. >> it was intimidating working
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for him. he called you in his office, you had to be prepared to go to the mat and talk about whatever it was and he was always five steps ahead of you. >> reporter: she went on to become a law professor at notre dame. >> before i was a judge, i was a law professor. >> reporter: where in 2012 she signed on to a public letter protesting abortion and contraception coverage of the affordable care act were quote an assault on religious liberty. >> you are controversial, let's start with that. >> reporter: barrett's devote catholic faith was a point of contention during her 2017 confirmation hearing for the seventh circuit appeals court. >> when we read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you, and that's of concern. >> reporter: barrett pushed back insisting no judge's religious believes should have any bearing on their interpretation of the law. >> if you're asking if i take my
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faith seriously and i'm a fateful catholic i am my church affiliation or religious belief would not bear in the discharge of my duties as a judge. it's never appropriate to impose judge's personal convictions whether they derive from faith or anywhere else on the law. >> reporter: barrett talked about being a mother of seven during the hearing including two adopted children from haiti and a son who she learned had down syndrome when she was pregnant with him. >> benjamin has special needs and presents unique challenges for all of us. >> reporter: barrett's personal story and conservative credentials endeared her to grass roots conservatives. >> somebody like amy barrett could be a powerful choice to fire up the base. she's an extremely brilliant juriest and her personal story i think speaks to her pro-life believes.
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>> pam brown, thanks. perspective from gloria borger and chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. gloria, you heard pamela's piece. do you think nominating judge barrett is the right move for the president ahead of the election? >> well, i think if you're talking in the short term political view, sure. she appeals to evangelicals, conservative republicans. she a former law clerk of scalia who donald trump loved. i think she checks all those boxes. i think, though, in the longer term, there are republicans now asking the question do we want to spend a good part of this election talking about how roe v wade would be dismantled, talking about how obamacare and preexisting conditions would likely be dismantled before the supreme court after all there is a hearing on that on november 10th before the supreme court. so the president could get his
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win but in the long term will it help him in the general election? the jury, as we say, is still out on that, i think, anderson. >> jeff, frankly, the more people are talking about those things, they're not talking about the pandemic and the president's handling of it so maybe that does help him? >> perhaps. although, you know, one of the things that the biden campaign is clearly doing is making the supreme court about health care and they're not making it up because the supreme court is going to hear yet another challenge to the affordable care act exactly one week after the election, which the new justice would have a voice in. so, you know, it is, you know, to the extent health care is the coronavirus and, you know, if every single person who has had a positive coronavirus test, even if they're recovered are now have a preexisting condition, which could deny them health care.
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so i mean, the stories are not exactly separate and, you know, i think i have enough confidence in the american people they can remember the 200,000 people have died of this disease at the same time, they're thinking about the supreme court. >> gloria, i want to play something the president said on the south lawn earlier tonight. let's watch. >> eight, nine justices, you need that. with the unsolicited millions of ballots they are sending, it's a scam, it's a democrats know it than anybody else. so you need nine justices up there. i think it's going to be very important. doing it before the election would be a very good thing because you're going to probably see it because what they're doing is trying to sew confusion. >> i mean, he's saying he wants the supreme court involved obviously in the election and, you know, obviously, the whole voter fraud thing is, you know,
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he's never won in court on that. it doesn't exist in any measurable way. >> only if he loses. it's only if he loses, he's efd it's stun having you dissect it, if i lose, we're going to take this to the court and i have to rig the courts and make sure i have conservative justices on my side as if they would automatically rule in their favor because they're conservative and, you know, what he's saying at the american people is okay, if i lose at the polls, i don't want to lose in the court. and that's astonishing. >> it -- >> maybe not. >> jeff, does it astonish you? >> it's -- well, i mean, like everything else in the trump administration, it is shocking but not surprising. i mayean, the idea that the
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president is saying we're about to have a fraudulent election, which i will challenge in court is something no president in american history has come close to saying especially when as benjamin ginsburg, the dean of republican election lawyers said just the other day there is no evidence of fraud, that this whole idea that there is a fraudulent process underway is simply a figment of donald trump's imagination and he's counting on the courts to bail him out if the vote count turns out to be not to his liking. that's something that we're not used to seeing in a democracy but it is something we're used to seeing from donald trump. >> i mean, gloria, every time his voter fraud stuff is actually put to a factual test, you know, of voter fraud commission is formed with much, you know, headlines, it disbands because there is not the
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evidence that the president wants there to be. >> right. there isn't any evidence as jeffrey was just saying, ben ginsburg a republican who has studied this from the days of bush v gore 20 years ago said there is no evidence. what the president is trying to do is delegitimize on election he could lose. i guarantee you that if he were to win this overwhelmingly, he's not going to say the election was rigged. and so we are treading into very dangerous territory here, very dangerous. he's setting the stage for something that we have not seen before. >> jeff, you wrote recently about this in the new yorker. you wrote about how much is the possibility of the president contesting the election results all the way to the supreme court complicate not just election integrity at large but also just the process of filling the vacant seat? >> it's enormously important because, you know, if you go back to bush v gore, you know,
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ruth ginsburg and face the three court and the departure and, you know, look, yesterday i mean last week the pennsylvania supreme court ruled that the absentee ballots only have to be postmarked before election day and they don't have to be received on election day to count. very important issue. that now is on appeal at the united states supreme court. this is part of what the republicans want to do, which is limit absentee voting, mail in voting as much as possible so this is a case that is already on its way to the supreme court but there are -- it's hard to
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believe but it's true, there are 200 cases in the united states working their way through the courts to about the rules of the election. at least some of them are going to be -- they're going to be appealed to the supreme court whether they agree to hear any of them but this is a crucial part of this election and as, you know, gloria was saying, the president in a very explicit way is saying i need to stack the supreme court so i will win one way or another. >> appreciate it. thank you. washington post columnist josh roguen on his reporting on a top secret intelligence assessment that's happening as we speak. by the struts hey mercedes?
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if you're ever worried someone is stuck in ground hog day 2016, the latest column in the washington post will make you up for yet another day. here is his lead quote russian president vladimir putin and top aids are quote robbery directing the russian foreign influence operation to interfere in the 2020 presidential election against former vice president joe biden which involves a prominent ukrainian lawmaker connected to president trump's personal lawyer rudolph w. giuliani. according to roguen who joins us shortly, the cia, nsa and fbi declined to comment. the white house had no comment and if there is no comment there a context to this. the president's repeated refusal to confront 1r5vladimir putin. here he is yesterday when asked
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about the poisoning of a russian disdant. >> who do you think poisoned ale alexi? >> we'll talk about that at another time. >> just moments later wolf blitzer had bob woodward on "the situation room" and his book contains accounts about dan coats, the fired director and reported belief putin had something on the president. >> it's an extraordinary exchange and extraordinary bit of reporting you had in the book. how do you see it? do you see any other explanation other than what dan coats suggested? >> dan coats is the number one intelligence officer, somebody who had been a republican senator for indiana for 16 years, one of mike pence's closest friends, evangelical christian. coats went through all the intelligence, deep cover sources, the intercepts, everything. he had his people to see if they
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could find something they found no evidence and no proof. at the same time, coats could not shake the conclusion because of trump's behavior to putin that went beyond rational presidential decision making. >> the president fired dan coats and comey and atted as with the man he chose to replace comey, christopher wray who said this last week to the house intelligence committee. >> we certainly have seen very active efforts by the russians to influence our election in 2020 and i think the intelligence community assessed this publicly to primarily to denigrate vice president biden. >> this echoes the intelligence community's public assessment.
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according to your reporting, what else did this top sick red assessment conclude? >> right, the assessment does not name rudy giuliani but refers to a prominent person employed by this russian influence operation scheme, which involves ukrainian pro-russian lawmaker andre who is a buddy of giulianis. they are doing youtube videos all the time and the assessment highly classified on the cia worldwide site dated august 31st said that he is also spreading disinformation through u.s. lawmakers, u.s. lobbyists, u.s. media organizations and while it doesn't name those, it's pretty obvious and clear who they were referring to because rudy and him have been doing this stuff in public not all of it but some of it and basically, what we see in this assessment is just a lot of concern and reporting and
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investigation into this scheme and the assessment, the conclusion that vladimir putin and his top officials are definitely aware and probably directing it and that's the key bit here. it ties the top level of the kremlin, not definitively but probably to the president's lawyer and ukrainian lawmaker attacking our democracy. >> it 's incredible. >> it's shocking, it's not surprising because of the setup you went through. wii se we've seen this movie before. the russians have been doing this the whole time and it's predictable and believable putin would be in charge of it. at the same time, it's so disturbing in a way especially to the people who are working on this inside the intelligence community because the president won't acknowledge it and stop it or do anything to sort of
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distance himself from it. you can go through the speculation if the russians have something on trump but it's likely he enjoys the support and doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him. he doesn't have to have something on him and don't have to be colluding. they can be sharing interests and sort of what we call aiding and abedditting the interferenc and laundering this information and the lawmakers doing investigations into the things that rudy and he were doing and the 2016 election, not russia on behalf of hillary clinton and this is the whole scheme that got trump impeached in the first place and rudy is still doing it so the intelligence community is still investigating. >> i want to play something attorney general barr said a few weeks ago. >> of those three countries that the intelligence community
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pointed to, russia, china and iran, which is the most assertive and agrees siegressivs area? >> china. >> which one? >> china. >> more than russia? >> yes. >> why? >> because i've seen the intelligence. >> does anything the assessment support what the attorney general said? >> to be clear this assessment is only regarding the russian influence operation. there is probably another assessment, one that i haven't seen about the chinese efforts. now, the fact that the attorney general is making that assertion without providing any evidence begs the question of what the heck is he talking about? but from the intelligence officials i talked that this russian operation is much more extensive, much more organized and much more effective than any chinese influence operation because they are working with the president's lawyer and major gop senators are conducting investigations to unearth the same disinformation that rudy and the russians are peddling
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coincidentally apparently. so we can see it everywhere so to assert that the chinese operation is greater, i think would be much more credible if there was any evidence that administration is willing to come forward. >> the assessment said misinformation about biden being funneled through congress. are there members of congress wittingly or unwittingly helping the interference campaign. >> what we know from the public record is that whatever they came up with chuck grassry, devin nunes, all these gop lawmakers say they didn't get information from dirkash. it could be released this week is all about the same exact disinformation that rudy and
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dirkash are peddling. somehow they got it. so if they're wittingly doing it and the assessment doesn't speak to this or accuse them of wittingly doing it but if they are, they are in a conspiracy. if they are unwittingly doing it, they are unusualful idiots. >> the former national security advisor said they are making it easy for vladimir putin about election security, do you think that assessment fits with what intelligence agencies are seeing? >> yeah, i think it fits perfectly basically what he's saying is that, you know, the russians' goal is to get americans to do putin's bidding for him. that's how influence operations work. they plant russian ideas in american mouths and voices and outlets and because we see them coming out of gop mouths and the president's mouth and rudy's mouth and the president retweeted indoformation directl
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it seems like it's working. there are a lot of people inside the government, a lot of people in these agencies who are really concerned about that but they're afraid if they speak up, they will get the comey treatment and become the target of the president's eye and get fired or worse and that's the climate that's going on inside of our government right now. it's a government at war with itself, okay? you got people trying to fight russian interference and at the same time looking over their shoulder to make sure that they don't have the president of the united states fighting them. it's bizarre. >> yeah. it's stunning. stunning reporting. josh roguen, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, more on the climbing u.s. coronavirus death toll topping 200,000. i'll talk to the governor of washington. his state had the first confirmed death in the country and his thoughts on the grim milestone and what is still needed in the fight against covid when we continue. curiosity. it ignites our imagination. in search of inspiration.
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back to our breaking news on coronavirus. a grim milestone in the united states. the death toll topped 200,000. in the early days washington state was hit hard and early. and had what was then the first confirmed u.s. death. a male patient in his 50s. for months washington governor jay inslee was on the front lines trying to help everyone in his state. i spoke with him just before air time. governor inslee thanks for
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joining us. washington state was the first to report a death. how is the state doing and where do you see this going? >> i think what this is, we're turning the tide. this has been a long struggle obviously. we started this has been a long struggle. we started as the first hit and the hardest hit. we have been making 3r0 guess. our numbers are coming down. the good news, i think we have shown that when you make decisions based on science and common sense and a reasonable degree of compassion you can knock down this virus as we have done. we still have a considerable distance to go to be in a place where we can open our activities. we remain extremely dill gant
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and extremely concerned about the fall. we are both successful, confident that we're doing the right thing. pleased that people are masking up. business insist that the patrons wear masks. >> as a governor, you have access to your own state's health officials. traditionally, the cdc is one of the gold standards for scientific advice and fighting a pandemic. doi trust inherently the ydc, the leadership of the cdc, the fda these days? >> i trust science. i trust the laws of thermo dynamics, i trust chemistry and physics, i trust good vaccine trials that are run for legitimate purposes that's the good news, we ought to be able to actually tease out that real science from the bluster and the
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desechgs that has impose d by te president of the united states. there's some good news on that score. the vaccine manufacturers have for the first time shown us their protocols and how they're running these tests in order to try to increase people's confidence in them. i think that's a good sign. we know we still will have this dead weight of trump trying to politicize this, have happy talk to try to happy talk people into believing this is solved by election day. i think the scientific community is doing a good job trying to give transparency so that we can make our own decisions. we had a discussion about this today on the vaccine program, we will have access, i believe, we will need to have access to the vaccine results so we can make
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our independent assessment to make sure that donald trump's fingerprints are not on it. those are the fingerprints we have to keep off of this process, it's extremely important. we wish the president would not every day try to reduce the program. and his insistence on violating the law. what kind of a president goes to a state, consciously, willfully violates the law as he did in nevada, that is intended to save americans lives. and now we passed over the 200,000 loss threshold. what kind of person does that? that person should not be allowed to be in the white house any further. >> and that milestone. it didn't have to happen. obviously, this is a deadly pandemic and people are going to die, but just the numbers we
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have seen thus far and are going to see moving forward, it didn't have to happen. >> that is a very difficult truism to accept. it is true. the pain and suffering on this, the president's continuing to downplay this. i heard him say that virtually no youth get this. try telling that to the mother i saw interviewed right after that statement by the president who lost her son, who is a football playing young man. no underlying conditions, had a physical ten days before he started to get in big trouble because of covid. trying telling her that virtually no one gets this. as a result of that, less people have accepted our suggestions and requirements for social distancing and masking. and unfortunately, those numbers are unnecessarily high. >> i appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you, be healthy.
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cindy mccane, widow of john mccane has endorsed joe biden for presidency. my husband john lived by a code, country first. we are republicans, but americans foremost. there's only one candidate that stands up for our values that is joe biden. while she and biden don't always agree on the issues, much like her husband did not. biden is a good and honest man, he will lead us in dignity. biden tweeted he was deeply honored. cindy mccain's endorsement comes
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after an interview about the relationship between biden and john mccain. the president has called the late senator a loser. something he denies doing, but there's taped evidence showing he did. it's been a very busy night, chris is going to pick things up right now with cuomo prime time. >> i am chris cuomo. 200,000 lives lost. third worst loss of life in our history. i'm sorry for the families lost. and i'm sorry that you had to hear this from your president. >> it affects virtually nobody. it's an amazing thing. >> then this, i'll never lie to you press secretary tells you the death toll has the president
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