john mccain. the president has called the late senator a loser. something he denies doing, but there's taped evidence showing he did. it's been a very busy night, chris is going to pick things up right now with cuomo prime time. >> i am chris cuomo. 200,000 lives lost. third worst loss of life in our history. i'm sorry for the families lost. and i'm sorry that you had to hear this from your president. >> it affects virtually nobody. it's an amazing thing. >> then this, i'll never lie to you press secretary tells you the death toll has the president awake at night.

so worried that he stands maskless in front of a tight crowd again tonight telling jokes, instead of holding a moment of silence for the 200,000 stolen by this pandemic. maybe trying to prevent some of these good people in this crowd who are too close together and without masks, from sharing their faith? >> they don't like spinning those cameras. they don't like showing -- they don't like showing. show the crowd. this is an honor, let me tell you. >> all of you are free to feel anyway you want about the media. about each other, i don't understand why he feels this way about you. i have to show you the crowd, it's not about politics, it's about a public service announcement. this is what not to do in a

pandemic. it's an honor for him. i'm sure it is. it's a great regret for me. i'm so sorry for people in those crowds whom he is assisting and exposing themselves to something that could make them sick, really sick. or god forbid worse. why must support for this president be a risk to your health. still worse, this president knows that 200,000 lives lost, not to even many the many many millions more who were, are and will be sick. so much of this didn't have to happen. >> i think it's a shame, but it's a horrible thing. should have never ever happened. >> he's right. how many of you voting right now who can literally go online, fill out a piece of paper and get a ballot will how many of you will hear those words that

we should have never been in this situation the way they are right now. and hold this president to account? he is responsible for creating much of the shame in this situation. testing, tracing, masks, distancing. they were always the keys for us. and he has always stood against them. even tonight. not a word about, you got to do the masks, you got to socially distance, hygiene, hygiene. not a word about the need to do better for our kids. kids have to be in school. how? he has never said how. i know you're living it, you are telling me. i'm living it too. we are failing our kids. they can't test adequately, they can't teach in person the right way. we're faming them, but he gives himself an a.

on this first day of fall, 24 states are falling backwards. with new cases rising. 40,000 cases a day, that's an important number for population our size, it's what experts believe is a rate that just suggests you're trending the wrong way. the president tells you, it is what it is. that's because he refuses to do anything about it. that's what you say. it is what it is, when you can't change something. the pandemic is not what it is. it is what we make it through our response. now, i tell you what's true. he is who he is, he's the same man that told me the day obama nominated merrick garland to the high court, that as a matter of principle we shouldn't seat the judge because it was too close to the election. >> you say no, don't do it, wait for the next election.

why? you say that washington's broken, they don't do their job enough, they all play games. this is one of those games, if they don't hold hearings, why continue the problem? >> because i think the next president should make the pick. they shouldn't go forward, we don't have a very long distance to wait. certainly they could wait it out very easily. i think the next president should make the pick. i would be not in favor of going-forward. >> is he lying then or is he lying now? one of our problems collectively is, you probably don't care. if you don't like him, you expect him to lie. now ginsburg successor probably will be confirmed before election day, why? because power means more than principle to him, and to the republicans who are driving this. they all looked you in the face and said, we have to do this this way, now they're saying, ha ha ha ha. because they know you don't expect any better.

what does this moment mean for our well being politically and practically. we have one of the main senators in this kind of discussion, okay? angus king independent from maine, respected on both sides of the aisle, friends on both sides of the aisle. he's going to have to speak up now. senator, thank you for doing so on this show. >> good to be with you. >> do you disagree with anything i just said? >> no, i'm afraid i can't, and there's so many ways to attack that, but one of them is, that senator mcconnell, the president's accomplice in this supreme court issue waited four months and basically hasn't done anything about another covid relief bill, when we have people unemployed. people being evicted. small businesses that are going under, schools that are struggling to try to reopen. nothing on that, and yet all of

a sudden, we're doing back flips to confirm a judge in a matter of weeks. it's pretty disappointing, chris, to go back to the covid thing, you mentioned, you keep talking about 200,000 people, i read a study the other day that said each one of those 200,000 people has an average of nine relatives that are affected by this, you're talking really almost 2 million people who have been directly affected by a death from this disease let alone all the people that have gotten them. it's a catastrophic failure of leadership. >> what's been your experience in the senate, in terms of understanding the why here, why they don't want to do more to jump on the pandemic. why they don't want to jump up and down to yell for something to be done for schools. in your state and really there's no way of pulling nick out of the equation.

>> why not more outcry? >> first i want to brag on maine for a minute. we have the second lowest infection rate in the country. moody's analytics said we're the highest state in getting back to normal. it goes back to the issues of how this has been handled. the reason we're in that condition. maine people care about each other. number two, we had a governor who made some really hard decisions, took a lot of heat, particularly during the summer tourism season. but it's paid off, we're closer to any other state being back to normal right now. and we have the second lowest infection rate in the country. we've had realtime biology experiments going on in front of our eyes, if you look at the states, by the way, you said 24 are going up, i saw some figures that said 27 are headed back up in terms of infections, but our governor took -- made those

decisions, made the kinds of decisions the president should have made last spring. and it's worked, now, you ask a tough question. and you really ought to be talking to my republican colleagues about why they aren't really more aroused in fighting and concerned about this. look, it's no secret. donald trump owns his base. they're going to do what he says, they're going to follow him. if he tweets and you're a republican senator and he tweets that he doesn't like you or you're not on the team. you're gone. and ask bob corker or jeff flake or mark sanford down in north carolina. i mean, that's the reality, it's just self-preservation is a pretty strong instinct. >> in terms of what the implications are on the courtside, we talked about the pandemic, people appointing to

what is up in terms of what this will mean. and they talk about roe versus wade. i don't want to talk about that, we understand the politics of it. the aca is something, that doesn't matter about your politics. you need health insurance. >> the case that the trump administration is supporting to completely wipe out the aca is being argued the week after the election. and here's the -- here's what's at stake. again, i was just checking the numbers, we have about 150,000 people, that's more than 10% of our population on either the aca or exchange or the expanded medicaid. about half of our people, chris, have pre-existing conditions. and if the aca goes. >> he says he's going to do it by executive order. the president will take care of pre-existing conditions by executive order, do you believe that 1234. >> yeah, don't hold your breath. i don't know how he does that.

i don't know how that can stand constitutional challenge passed by a statute of both houses of congress and signed by the president. they keep talking about taking care of pre-existing conditions, nothing that the republicans or the president have put forward in the last 10 years has covered pre-existing conditions. if the aca goes, this term of the supreme court. that's going too go too, and if the president has a health plan, and he's going to take care of pre-existing conditions, let's see it. he's been promising this health plan since he ran in 2016. nobody's seen it yet. repeal and replace, that's a really great motto, but we've never seen the replace, in any serious way that would do anything about underlying problems of supporting people on health care. the very first case to come before the supreme court after the election is going to be the future of the affordable care

act. >> if someone isn't seated during oral arguments, traditionally, haven't participated in that case. who knows these days. the cia assessment, i had rudy giuliani on the show on 9/11. and i asked him about derkosh, what are you doing hanging out with this guy. it's your client's administration that says he's a bad guy, he's working with russia. and rudy said, yeah, they can say that, he isn't. now, that is one of the main concerns of our intelligence apparatus, if you don't think somebody is on the make, you're very susceptible to them. sure enough, the washington post comes out with reporting that rudy giuliani can be working with this guy, ongoing russian efforts to disadvantage biden? >> i don't know anything about

what rudy giuliani's relationships are with this guy, but i've seen pictures of them together. he was sanctioned last week by the u.s. treasury department, and mentioned in the election security briefing that we had back in early august. specifically by name. as cen willy a russian agent, working on behalf of russia, spreading disinformation on behalf of rurk ya. and so, you know, i mean, that's just -- facts are stubborn things they say. >> the president's lawyer is hanging out with a guy that you guys are getting briefed about to see as part of a malevolent act against the united states. you have the president's lawyer calling him a friend? >> hey. my mother used to say, lie down with dogs you get up with flees. >> but when that dog has a hand with the most powerful man in the world whose considering whether or not to care about this. we haven't heard anything from the president about it, and the

only thing that makes sense to me, senator, is that somebody's got to be telling him it's not as bad as the rest of us think. >> well, you know, that gets to the question of intelligence and i'm -- my passion is that intelligence has to be given straight unvarnished without concern for what the president or the national security adviser or the members of congress want to hear. they've got to get the straight information. otherwise you have bad facts and then you make bad decisions. so the president ought to want the unvarnished opinions. but who knows whether he's getting that. dan coates gave him straight information, and we all know that he's now gone. he was the right guy to hold that position. he was an honorable honest man trying to do his best for the country. when you start shooting the messenger, the messenger stops giving you the message that you really need to hear. >> or he or she sure does take a

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of and probably directing russia's influence operations aimed at denigrating the former u.s. vice president supporting the u.s. president and fueling public discord. boy, we're making it easy, aren't we? admit it, you have questions about the election security. president keeps telling you it's going to be rigged. people around him keep saying it, they say balloting is riffe with fraud. they have no proof. they're doing russia's work for them. boy are we easy pickings. the warning bells are coming from trump's own people. we've seen the warnings from the director of national intelligence and the treasury department, apparently the cia, nsa, nfbi all say this is comin directly from putin. trump's own fbi director told congress this. >> we certainly have seen very active, very active efforts by the russians to influence our election in 2020. and i think the intelligence

community has assessed this publicly to primarily denigrate vice president biden. >> now, you'll hear trumpets say, yeah, but china does it, north korea does it. no, not like this, not now. now, this president attacked his own guy, remember. trump's own administration issues sanctions with the guy you just saw -- for running a covert influence campaign. the very influence campaign that this president personally amplified on his twitter feed. the same campaign that his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani refuses to acknowledge. i asked about this with him, just last week. listen to what he said. >> you know our government sees

andre derkosh as a guy that should not be respected or trusted. >> well, i don't -- that's okay, they can see him that way. he is not. >> how susceptible is the president's attorney to someone who he refuses to see as on the make? i mean, this is mind blowing. the president's intelligence apparatus said watch out for this guy. and the president's guy says i'm okay with it. and they're saying, he's working you and you're putting out exactly what he wants you to put out to attack biden. he says, no, i'm okay with it. it's crazy. former chief of the fbi's counter espionage section is peter strzok. his new book is called compromise. you talk about apropos. thank you for being on the show.

how do you get more compromised than the president's own lawyer says the guy that is feeding him stuff one way or the other, at a minimum. he's parroting -- he says, no, i don't buy it, he's a good guy. how much more compromise do you get than that. >> chris, it's staggering. and look, thanks for having me back. i think we have grown dull to outrage. take a step back. we're talking about russia, this is the one nation on earth that has enough nuclear weapons pointed altus to wipe us off the face of the planet. that government is actively involved right now, they're head of that government, vladimir putin working as we speak to get donald trump re-elected. we know that, because his own administration is telling us that, whether it's the head of his -- the counter intelligence group, the director of national intelligence. the director of the fbi and the clip you just heard, these are people pointed by the president

who are apolitical in nature, telling us right here and right now, vladimir putin is trying to get trump re-elected just like he did in 2016. >> how can is that be okay to anyone? >> what do you say -- yeah, i heard this already, this is what they do, we probably do it to them, it is what it is, to use the terrible expression of the moment. what do you say to them? >> well, two things, first, we are defined as a democracy at our core electing our head of state, our representatives. we don't have a king, we don't have a dictator, an authoritarian. we go every four years and choose who we want to lead us. we don't have the russians or the chinese or even the british or the canadians or anybody else doing it, that's our business, and it's been our business since 1776. second, it isn't just so what. look at what the russians stand for. they're putting bounties on the heads of dissidents.

time and time again they're doing things that are contrary to american interests and there's nothing but silence coming out of this administration. to say i didn't know about it, well, you know now. and if you're the president, you didn't read a pbb about those russian bounties, you know now, what are you doing about it? what's the response? and i can't explain it. >> so many in this country will take comfort in the fact that he hasn't said anything. how can they affect our democracy anyway. unless they hack into the vote counts somehow, which aren't really automated in places, it's mostly done by hand. they can't really do anything. there's tongues of bs on the internet, we all have to look at it with a jaundiced eye. >> looking domestically, there are all kinds of things we know they did.

it's become public now that several states have said, yes, we were targeted and we -- they were successful, they got into our systems, they're absolutely doing the same thing now, and if any single one of these systems, we're heading into an election where we're as partisan as it's ever been, we're depending on mail-in voting, if it's a close election, we may not know who the winner is on election night. into that environment which is a societal powder keg, that's a playground for russian disinformation. i'm really worried that given what they've done in the past, they're primed and ready to take advantage of that right now. >> scary thought is that, i wonderful what -- we know why trump wouldn't say anything. this is good for him. and the question is, i wonder if all the people that are following him, so big with the american flag and love of country and patriots, would they go soft or turn a deaf ear to what russia is trying to do to our democracy, because they think, even if they are, it can

only help trump? weird times, peter. thank you for giving us. i'll give you the last word. >> i served with with the men and women in the military i served with in the army, they are the sons and daughters who are trump supporters. are you okay with this foreign adversary targeting servicemen? that's not okay, it's not acceptable and it never will be. >> i appreciate the context, i will need you again and soon. be well until then. >> thanks so much, chris. you can't say it enough, 200,000 lives stolen by covid. it shouldn't happen, all those families, friends, co-workers, who lost somebody. all that opportunity. all that human potential gone. how are we not doing all we know we can to save lives? look at our schools, we all say we care about the kids, right? why is our president? why is the administration, why

are they so quiet on how badly we're failing our kids in schools. they said they should go back to school. so what? how? they can't test enough, they're not testing the right way. they don't know how to contact trace. if they get a case, no matter what the context of the positive is, they close down schools, what do you think is going to happen. when it swings one way, it swings another, right? now, you have a place in missouri swinging the other way. yeah, i knew you were supposed to someone with covid, but go to class, enough with this quarantine thing, let's get back to school. dr. sanjay gupta and a concerned parent weigh the plus minus factors here next. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. and you can pay your friends back from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" you can tell them: here's my bank.

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our schools. if in your community kids urbach to school, god bless. i hope you're testing and monitoring and doing what you can to stay healthy. so many of the rest of us are compromised. how do we do better by schools. get more open, more kids in there and keep them that way. no easy answer, but there are ways. certainly better than what we're doing now. especially as more schools are finding that just a single positive case can force the whole school to shut down. or at a minimum, a whole pod, a whole thing. some southwest missouri school districts are trying to navigate this in a different way now. this is what happens when you have a bad situation. people start doing bad things in response, to allow students to continue going to class and playing sports. the catch they say is, students have to keep their masks on and stay socially distant. the reasons for it are not

irrational. there are real concerns here. you don't know that being exposed to somebody with covid. you don't know what degree of virus the person that has it. are they contagious, are they not? will you get it, will you not? what are the chances? they're not so great. every day you are not in school is education lost. too many kids are missing school. nutrition, a lot of these kids go to school, not just to learn, but to eat, to survive. and we know being out of school can have an impact on mental health. for some it's a refuge from abuse. this is complicated. we need our schools. just days into these changes, one district has it to reverse course, why? not because of new cases, but in a notice to parents, the superintendent said, what started out as a quiet effort to determine if we could keep students in school without having a spike in positive cases became a political issue.

now, the superintendent, i invite him on the show. why? sympathetic to his cause. understand why he's desperate to find a safeway. then he says, i'm cancelling? we're conservative here. i thought you didn't like it being politicized. i see schools as desperate for better answers, he's going to play politics? despite that posture, i will advocate their cause, we need to do better by that school and others so superintendents don't have to make decisions like that, brandy long is a parent of three kids that attend school in that district. >> just to get the medicine here straight, doc, the idea of well, you are in contact with somebody who has covid, but as long as you wear a mask and socially distance, you can still be around us. how safe is that? >> that's not the right answer, chris, unfortunately, if you've

been exposed, you know, and i'll say, even if you get tested, tested is a big part of this. for a period of time, there's a concern that you may actually have the infection. and they quarantine time people discuss this. typically, if people have been exposed, if they're going to develop symptoms, it happens within five or six days or so. you have to treat that with care. you have to assume that at least for a period of time, you're going to have to quarantine yourself so you don't pass the outbreak on to others. >> brandy, you and i and sanjay are in a similar boat, have you three kids in the district. you have a freshman in high school good luck with in a. you have a fourth grader and a first grader who you are home schooling. you are spreading the risk

across all the different concerns. what is your concern about the status quo at your school. let's talk about the freshman, in terms of how much they can test, how confident they seem and their ability to control virus. >> we're not testing, kids are getting tested, but tests are hard to come by, i think if we had better testing, the contact tracing could be minimal. we could test the kids and they could stay home. if they were positive and go back to school if they're negative. >> what did you think about this reaction from the superintendent that look, this is crazy, we can't monitor this the right way. let's talk about sending sick kids to school. >> i think kids should take care of their kids.

i don't want anyone other than me sitting next to my children. you. >> said you have a friend who's a teacher. >> kind of heightened your concern that a lot of them are vulnerable, they're not being protected. what are your concerns there? >> the school is doing the best they can do. we can make educated choices. i volunteer hundreds of hours at school, i'm not able to do this year because of covid. they need to let anyone help that wants to help, really. >> you know, sanjay, we know a lot of brandy's, parents who are trying to do the best by their kids in schools that have just been left on their own. the states don't have the data that the cdc does, they don't have the testing capacity to give these schools.

these pcr tests at so many cycles. they go so deep, you don't know if they're contagious or not. they take a long time to turn around, is there any indication at the federal level of them trying something else, trying to do better. well, you know, i mean, first of all, i totally sympathize, i have three kids too, and we went through this whole decision matrix, it's not easy. everyone has been left out there to become their own epidemiologist. there isn't a national strategy, which is part of the challenge here, there were these criteria, remember, this is when you should open schools, you want to make sure the viral spread in your community was coming down why? if it was coming down, and when it came down 14 days in a row. your chances of coming down with someone who has the virus was going to be significantly lower.

if the positivity rate was low, that meant you were testing enough in your community and you were catching enough. what is the red zone. the right side of the screen. greater than 200 cases out of 200,000. i looked at your particular community, i know it's tough decisions, you guys are in that higher to highest category right now, which i'm sure is something you've considered, it does make the likelihood of coming in contact with someone with the virus much higher, that's the concern, you want to look at the school, see what they're doing in terms of hand washing and masking, it's really hard. >> really hard. especially with little kids. >> especially with little kids is right. try to get a little kid to put a visor own, try to get them to look at a zoom class for 45 minutes left alone. the frustration is, we should be

putting that chart up there. it assumes people are getting tested. your school isn't doing regular testing. people get tests but you have to get them yourself. how can you trust that the school knows what's going on, when you know they don't have a testing protocol, how do you deal with that. >> we do our best. i'm a concerned parent. i go to the board meetings and try to be included in everything so i know what's going on. and you know what's not going on. we're testing regularly, you know that's not true. >> sanjay and i have said this to too many people, we're going to say this to a lot more. good luck going-forward, let us know if we can help. thank you for telling us the truth about what's going on where you are. your friends and their kids as well. i wish you well, and thank you.

>> thank you. >> and the president gives himself an a. missouri, can't test the school, superintendent has to make this really whacked decision to have kids that are exposed to covid come back. nobody's giving them better options. >> the president gives himself an a. a coronavirus task force member resigned over concerns with this add american station's response. and now the white house is rolling out aids to attack her. a highly decorated general. my next guest says he knows what general kellogg said today about olivia troy is not true. why? because he was in the white house -- i'll let him tell the story. you have to listen to miles taylor on how he knows what you were told today is b.s. next.

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it has to matter how we conduct our politics. it has to. i know both sides do things you don't like. i know you expect nothing. but we have to start expecting better. and accounting for a certain standard otherwise this is going to be toxic for all of us all the time. it's not okay that the white house is going all out to attack a former adviser to the coronavirus task force. today kayleigh pulled out a retired general to go after olivia troy. >> i'm keith kellogg, olivia troy worked for me, i fired her. the reason i fired her, her performance had started to drop after six months working on the task force as a back bencher. she was responsible for

coordinating meetings, big people level. when the performance level dropped off, i went to the vice president of the united states and asked her to leave. >> he seems serious, looking at his pedigree, seems like he's telling you the truth. how do you explain troy's post. love this man, we had a great day today, a great heart to heart today. we've been through a lot together on this national security team. we just so happen to have a guy with firsthand knowledge information. he's the former chief of staff for trump's dhs. he is miles taylor, welcome back to prime time. is the general telling the truth? >> look, chris, this is a microcosm of this entire

administration, the president lies, his lieutenants lie, and he gets people to sully their own good name by lying about things that are clearly, very very clearly and patently true, he'll get them to say that they're false. i'll tell you why i know a lot about the the vice president himself personally told mel so she was doing incredible work and thanked me for referring her. this year keith kellogg thanked me and in a glowing gushing review. said he was floored with the job olivia troy was doing. today he went out there and said he fired her with cause. she had been performing poorly. he terminated her from the job. all of these things are provably false. he's a retired lieutenant general. i will tell you why this happened.

why i suppose this happened. if i was a communication professional i would have said this is not worth us going out to say these things. let the story die. i think i know why the story didn't die. the president of the united states very likely today said to his communication team he was so frustrated that so many insiders are speaking out against him i wouldn't be sholked if he ordered them to do this. and they willingly followed his lead. it's not just the vice president that is lied about this. and cayly lied about this. and keith kellogg lid about this. the president told multiple lies. just the other day said she was low level. she wasn't. he was the homeland security adviser. on terrorist attacks and pandemics. >> she was a back bencher. as if she were administrative assistant. >> and the president --

>> you know it's not true. >> it's not true she was in a very senior job. to the vice president of the united states. would you want a back bencher to be the vice presidet's top adviser on major crisis? would anyone want that? she was a top adviser with the vice president and she cited in her testimony meetings with the president where she met him in person. the president lied and said had never met her. this was false. she's been cincinatti roin the he's happy covid-19 happened so he didn't have to shake hands of disgusting supporters. h he continued to lie. she wasn't terminated. she left on her own. people like her are normally sent to the white house for a one year detail. they extended her into a second year and beyond.

they were so happy with her performance and the vice president wanted to extend her further. but usually people go back to their home agency after the time period. this has been lie on top of lie. it shows you the prioritizing politics over pandemic response. >> they had a chance to say this last week. kellogg was on with wolf. he didn't say this. why? and if you fired her, let's see the paper work. fire is not a word it's an action. where is it? >> i agree. where's the paper work and not only that if there's not paper work and the people went to the microphone and said that she was fired with cause and she was a bad employee, i don't know the law. i'm not a lawyer. >> i do. what's your question? >> of course it's defamatory. per se. two categories.

per se and per quad. per quad means to this point. you have to show that there's a point of damage that it hurt you. there's certain categories some are antiquated. per se is all i have to prove is you said it and the damage is assumed. one of them is you're terrible at your job. bad in business. this fits a category. let's see what proof they have. miles taylor you make a compelling case. i appreciate you doing it here. >> thanks, chris. >> all right. you can decide for yourself. if this is what they're doing to somebody who did the right thing by them, what does it mean for you? we'll be right back. ionwide 5g? yup! and that's faster? faster, yea! but is it reliable? ah huh and secure! you should consider making a big deal about it! bigger? i said bigger! oh, big-bigger deal bigger than what i'm doing? it's not complicated.

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have a plan. >> excuse me, you heard me yesterday. we're signing a health care plan within two weeks. >> i have it all ready. it's a much better plan for you. >> now, his press secretary is in on it too. >> it does exist. the president in the next week or so will be laying out his vision for healthcare. >> his vision. remember the woman who said this in her first white house briefing. >> i will never lie to you. you have my word on that. >> so much for her word. boy do people change. boy, do they change. look, maybe it will come out in two weeks. it doesn't take much to pass the test. it could be three pages of intentions. that's where the second part of the be on the lookout comes in. if it does come out, you have to take a really close look at it. it's going it matter. if he seats this judge november

10 they have this case. on the aca. if those judges don't find severability. it can have pieces taken out but the rest remain. if he gets what he wants getting rid of obamacare. that's the easy part. any jack ass can kick down a barn. it takes a good man or woman to build one. what are they building? the 21 million who could lose coverage. be on the lookout. "cnn tonight" right now. >> he's on the lookout. >> i'm looking. >> you are just a hater. >> i'm looking for the healthcare plan. i wish i had a magnifying glass or a map. or a poke mono-thing you have to look for.