matt rivers, cnn, mexico city. >> thanks for sharing your day with us today. hope to see you back here this time perform. don't go anywhere. brianna keilar picks up our coverage, right now. have a good day. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. hello. i'm brianna keilar and i welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. we begin in louisville, kentucky, where any minute now we're expecting to hear from kentucky attorney general daniel cameron who will announce results of the grand jury proceedings in the investigation into breonna taylor's death. taylor was killed march 13th when police used a battering ram to break down her door to serve a no-knock warrant as part of a narcotics investigation centering around an ex-boyfriend of hers. her death sparked widespread protests and calls for charges against the officers involved in that raid. those three officers, detective brett hankinson, sergeant jonathan mattingly and detective myles cosgrove all placed on

administrative leave. henniganson indiscriminately fired ten rounds, his bullet occupied another apartment was fired. the city beefing up security in the city, establishing a curfew, boarding you buildings and kansasaling vacation time for police officers. we are closely mont beering the situation in louisville and will bring you the attorney general's comments live when it happens. other important news this hour, the future of the coronavirus task force and one of the key people in charge of it. sources tell cnn dr. birx has become distressed with direction of the faske force and not sure how much longer she can stay in her position. jim acosta at the white house, what are sources saying about this? >> reporter: breonna, i hear from my sources without

coordinat coordinator, dr. bob arnot, e d not certainly how long she can remain in her current position telling people around her she is distressed what she sees as a bad direction of the task force describing the situation inside the nation's response to the coronavirus as nightmare-ish. according to people familiar with her thinking, birx views dr. did scott atlas, a recent addition to the tanks fsk force unhealthy source to the president. her view of atlas' relationship with the president, "the president found somebody who matches what he wants to believe" saying of atlas. the source went on to say of deborah birx, she feels her role is diminished. atlas is feeding the president misinformation about efficacy of masks, for controlling the virus, and the president's rails drawing crowds of supporters who

refuse to wear the masks and repeatedly mocked joe biden for using them. we all know birx became a household name during the pandemic beginning in the briefing room delivering sober warnings about the threat posed by the virus, but brianna, you know in recent weeks, birx not only has not been in those briefings but spending much less time with the president, as she is now dispatched to raise awareness of the administration's pandemic efforts, in states where cases of covid-19 have surged. in states like missouri, texas and so on. i talked to a separate source close to webirx, not likely shel step down from the task force at this current time saying she is "a good soldier." the source said her frustration is understandable giving her diminished role on the task force. we reached out to dr. birx and the white house and waiting to hear back from some kind of comment. >> thank you for that report, live from the north lawn of the

white house, jim acosta, important testimony watching today on capitol hill and the ush aur urgent fight about the coronavirus. responses on the biggest questions on the minds of american families. when will a covid vaccine be available? and will it be safe? today four of the nation's top medical officials assured lawmakers the trump administration is not cutting corners and affirmed decisions on vaccines will be guided by science and science alone. it's a response to recent controversy that pressure from the president and his people may be interfering in scientists work and government agencies, and while senators were pressing leaders of the cdc, the fda and the nation's testing czar, it was infectious d.c. expert dr. anthony fauci who had the most heated ex-changes eed exchange rand paul who is also a doctor. let's watch. >> i don't think it's

appropriate to compare sweden with us. yes, we have -- i think in the beginning, we've done things based on the knowledge we had at the time. and hopefully, and i am, and my colleagues are, humble enough and modest enough to realize that as new data comes, you make different recommendations. but i don't regret saying that the only way we could have really stopped the explosion of infection was by essentially -- i want to say shutting down. i mean essentially having the physical separation and the kinds of recommendations that we've made. >> you've been a big fan of cuomo and the shutdown in new york. lauded new york for their policy. new york had the highest death rate in the world. how could we possibly jump up and down, governor cuomo did a great job. he had the worst death rate in the world. >> no. you've misconstrued that senator and done that repetitively in the past. they got hit very badly. they've made some mistakes. right now, if you look at what's going on right now, the things

that are going on in new york to get their test positivity 1% or less, is because they are looking at the guidelines that we have put together from the task force of the four or five things of masks, social distancing, outdoors more than indoors, avoiding crowds, and washing hands. >> or they've developed enough community immunity that they're no longer having the pandemic, because they have enough immunity in new york city to actually stop -- >> i challenge that, senator. >> i'm afraid -- >> please, sir, i would like to be able to do this, because this happens with senator rand all the time. you are not listening to what the director of the cdc said. that in new york, it's about 22%. if you believe 22% is herd immunity, i believe you're alone in that. >> also the preexisting immunity of those with cross-reactivity about a third of the public -- >> have to reserve --

>> we are -- >> i'd lyke to talk to be about that, also, because there bas a study recently that came out that pre-existing immunity to coronavirus is that a common cold do not cross react with the covid-19. >> i want to bring in dr. chris pernell works with new york university hospital, has also volunteered in a vaccine trial and also lost her father to coronavirus. dr. pernell, pretty interesting back and forth to watch. i wonder what your reaction is to it? >> you know, once again, dr. fauci has proven how great a public health leader, a public servant he is for this nation. and he needed to stand his ground and he did quite expertly. it's so important that we don't have politicians -- and i'm well aware senator rand is a physician -- but we don't have politicians presenting facts through a political slant or bent. especially when the public needs to be able to trust the word that's coming from the federal government.

>> i want to ask you about something we heard from the cdc director robert redfield testifying today. he said more than 90% of the population remains susceptible to coronavirus and said that geographically there's variance in that. some some places maybe 99% of the population is vulnerable. what is your takeaway from that? es special willy when health policy officials are aware that people are getting fatigued with distancing and masks? >> look, i know that the public is beleaguered. we're fatigued but we have to stand our ground. and we stand our ground by continuing to do those infectiousen prevent guidelines summarized in the hearing today. wear your mask. wear your mask whenever you are out in public or in a room with ear people. practice frequent hand hygiene. stay away from crowds. avoid indoor spaces that are crowded and be outside when you can. and's definitely we need the science to be able to play out so that we can prove whether or not we have an infected vaccine. one that can help us turn back

this virus. >> doctor, great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. the president last night reverting to a tried and true campaign theme. stoking the racial divide that he thinks will help him in the closing weeks of the 2020 election. the president deploying a racist attack against congresswoman ill ann omar. >> how about omar of minnesota? we're going to win the state of are minnesota, because of her. they say. telling us how to run our country. how did you do where you came from? how is your country doing? she's going to tell us, telling us how to run our country. >> and congresswoman omar is with us now. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> tell us your reaction to what you heard the president say. >> i mean, the president clearly loves to prey on people's fears.

he spreads the disease of hate everywhere he goes, and these culture rallies he's holding across the country are now being fueled by fear, and it is no surprise that he is so fearful of winning minnesota that he has to resort to this hate, because what he knows is that the democratic power in minnesota runs through turnout in the fifth congressional district, and we are going to make sure not only does he not win minnesota fwhaut but that he do get back to the white house. >> you heard the xheercheers. right? violent language used by you and alexandria cortez. has anyone reached out to say

this wasn't okay. you said that hasn't happened. i wonder. as you see many people essentially support or support through silence this kind of rhetoric, why you think that is? why do they do that? >> i mean, it shows, really, the ways in which our country has descented into a place where you are being attacked for being an immigrant. you're being attacked for being muslim and you're being attacked even for being a woman in a political sphere. you can see just how low not only republicans but even their base have gotten, and when you have attacks coming from the highest office in this country, it is completely reshaping the societal outlooks of our country, and it's quite shameful. i mean, you know, when i think about the ways in which this

president has run our country amok, run our laws amok, you have to remind yourself that he must have really quite missed a step in government 101, because he, you know, asks people, how did -- how does somebody like ilhan get to tell us how hour country is run? well, somebody like me gets to tell you how our country is run, because that's mandated in the constitution. i'm a member of congress, and that's what members of congress get to do per article i of our constitution, and i get to do that, because i was honored by the voters of the minnesota congressional fifth district with their votes. and i like to remind the president and his base, you know, i won my election in 2018

with more votes than 427 members of the house. and we did that by reaching out to people, having conversations, building relationships, and speaking to the issues that they were being faced. whether it was brutality within our policing system, whether it was the social ills that existed, that has made some of them not achieve the promise of america, or whether it was talking about economic opportunities that can exist for them. and we now have a president that has been responsible, truly, for the death of 200,000 americans, because he did not figure out how to cohesively lead our country while we are dealing with a pandemic, and that includes my own father. and we have a president has tha is overseeing one.

most financial devastations our country has ever seen, and we are dealing with a clear uprising across the country where people are fed up and are ready for systematic change. and instead of addressing those issues, he resorts to racist attacks, and attacking immigrants. i mean, this is a president who doesn't recognize that his own mother and grandfather were immigrants, that four of his children were born to women who were immigrants. not only is he a racist, but he's a sinophobic. he's just a racist against immigrants that look like me. >> democrats have raised concerns ash certainly the way the president is talking about an anticipated vaccine and the speed with which he is talking about it. would you take a vaccine that

becomes available, that goes to market, in a matter of months? >> i mean, if doctors and scientists like dr. fauci are taking that vaccine, of course, i will take the vaccine, and i know many americans will, but we also know that we can't trust the president, and take his word, and take a vaccine that might cause harm to us. we know that every single thing he does is geared towards winning an election. that is why he's downplayed this pandemic. that is why he's overseeing the deaths of 200,000 americans. that's why we are seeing this president sow the seeds of hate. that's why our kwucountry is mo divided than its of been and why we continue to have these conversations about the threats that really exist for our democracy and for our nation's existence. this is going to be an

opportunity nome for democrats to rise up and retake the white house, the senate, and maintain the house, but it's also an opportunity for americans to respond cohesively and say, this is not who we are. these are not what our founding principles were based on, and this is not the country we want to be. >> congresswoman ilhan omar, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. we are back to louisville, kentucky, where any moment now we are expecting a grand jury decision on possible charges in the deadly police shooting of breonna taylor. taylor was just 26 years olds when she was shot and killed in her home this past march, as police were serving a no-knock warrant. the city is bracing now for potential fallout from today's announcement as we await to see what it may be. louisville's mayor declaring a state of emergency at this point in time. i want to bring in cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon

prokupecz. you're there in louisville. what are you hearing? >> yeah. so this decision is going to come at any moment now. told two thing, happening. a court proceeding at 1:15 and then the attorney general will have his press conference at 1:30. that court proceeding is supposed to take place any moment, and that is where we will first learn about whether or not any of the officers involved in the breonna taylor shooting have been charged, and as you can see behind me, many of the people in the community and people who have been here for weeks have goth gathered as await the decision with us. many of them urging peace at this point. they say whatever the decision is, there is system more to do. they want to hold the mayor here accountable. they want to hold the police department accountable, but as you said. there is a lot of concern here for unrest. the city has taken unprecedented steps. they've locked all of downtown,

it's locked down. cars cannot get through here. there's a curfew, which goes into effect until, which goes into effect at 9:00. it lasts through the morning. the national guard is on standby, and the city has put concrete barriers all across this area to pre decision. the big focus here legally will be on how many officers get charged? obviously if any officers get charged -- and -- does -- or perhaps one 6 the officers. a lot of focus has been on one of the detectives who was fired from the louisville police department. his name is brett hankinson. that officer who fired at least ten shots blindly police said into breonna taylor's apartment. the other big thing the ballistic report. rep the attorney general here said just before he put the case before the grand jury, he had

just received the ballistic report. went to the fbi, had them review the ballistic evidence and said that was an important part of this case. we'll see if he's going to expand on that whether or not he'll give details about that ballistic report. exactly who fired what shots. that's a key part of this investigation. perhaps we'll learn more about that. we're moments away from a decision here from the grand jury as we await, again, that's supposed to take place any moment and then we're expected to hear from the attorney general. brianna? >> that ballistic report is so important here, shimon. right? we're talking about a number of bullets. i think ten, or thereabouts, from detective hankinson and then you have, i believe, the two other officers who also fired shots. but the question will be, breonna taylor was shot several times. which of those shots killed her? and we also know that detective hankinson's shots, or at least

we believe, but some of the shots in this case went into having been fired so indiscriminately, into another occupied apartment. right? i mean, this really raised the question about what -- if this person was respecting life in a crowded apartment building. actually, hold on just a moment, shimon. let's listen in to the grand jury announcement -- >> -- shot a gun into the opt occupied by initials c.e. count two, wanton endangerment in the first degree. on our about march 13, 2020 in jefferson county, kentucky, the above named defendant brett hankinson committed the offense of wanton endangerment in the first degree. when under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life he wantonly shot a gun into the apartment occupied by initials c. and i. count three. wanten endangerment in the first

degree. on or about march 13, 2020, the jefferson county -- in jefferson county, kentucky, the aboved named defendant brett hankinson committed the offense of wanton endanger munt in the first degree which under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life he wantonly shot a gun into an apartment occupied by initials z.f. against the peace and dignity of the commonwealth of kentucky. mr. foreperson, is that the decision of the grand jury? >> [ inaudible ]. >> thank you. sir, please randomly select a number. division 13. thank you, sir. the case will then be assigned to jefferson circuit court division 13. madam assistant attorney general do you have a motion with respect for bond?

>> $15,000 full cash bond for the defendant brett hankinson i. grant the motion and assign bond in the amount of $15,000 full cash and issue a warrant. that concludes the business of the grand jury sitting for jefferson county in september 2020. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. you may be excused. i'm going off the record. >> all right. those are the charges announced. laura coates, bring you in for legal expertise and say the first count, i think i know what it was, but cut off a little bit. but laura, sort of take us through it. it appears, and you tell me if i'm correct in this, that there are three counts, all have to do with just one officer? i don't know if there could be more with others? you tell me that. but it appears to be at least two of those maybe three wanton

endangerment in the first degree having to do with shooting into apartments occupied by initials c.e. c.n. and z.s. what does all of this mean? >> this is, first aof all, waiting for accountability for the killing of breonna taylor, 26-year-old emergency technician in kentucky, louisville in particular. now we see there will be some form of accountability, at least a charge on one of the officers. there were three officers involve ared in the shooting. a first officer who went in, shot in his leg. severing a femoral artery after being shot by mr. walker and a third officer not named in this particular indictment here white now also involved as a plained clothes narcotics officer. the one charged is the came one fired back earlier in the summer because the police chief issued a letter saying you have engaged in a wanton disregard for human

life by blindly and indescrip nenltly shooting into about apartment through a curtain meaning he had no idea who he was shooting at or people posed even a lethal theft to his own life. you know, briannbrianna, the on to use lethal force is if lethal force is used against you. even then, you are only allowed to use that level of force to stop that lethal force. not to go above and beyond. you had an officer where the police chief really teed up the same language we just saw just now, read by the grand jury, by the foreman talking about this very issue of that common denominator term of wanton's what does that mean? less than first degree intentional murder. intention murder means you actually intended to kill the person who became the victim of the homicide. often it can require you to have pre-planning or malice aforethought meaning intended

and planned to kill this person. a lesser degree of a still unlawful killi ining honestly f or second-degree wanten in disregard charges. that essentially means you were aware of a substantial risk to 450u human life or your contact could cause grave bodily harm or thread of grave bodily harm or serious injury. you knew of the risk and acted anyway. you knew of the risk and acted anyway. different than even a lower crime called reckless, where you didn't appreciate that there was a risk involved and somebody happened to die. they are using the wanton standard, about 20 years or more in prison you could have, up to at times life, but does not include the death penalty in kentucky, i don't believe. although is available for first-degree murder. it does not include death petht for a second-degree or wanton disregard claim because there's not that level of intent. this is a huge statement and i

think the police chief teeing in up maybe inadvertently saying you behaved in manner that does not fall in line with our training. we don't shoot through a curtain. we don't shoot through a wall. we don't endanger other people. >> i want to ask you something, though, which is, and i want to be, bring in shimon on this. if you can join us. i know you also heard this announcement as well as have thissing information. laura and shimon, all of us in this conversation. it appeared, laura, and shimon, correct me if i have the initials wrong. we're talking about -- wanton endangerment first degree going into a number of different apartments's is that correct? the initials i have here are an apartment occupied by initials c.e. and another apartment occupied by initials c.n. and then an apartment couped by -- occupied by z.s. how does this relate to the apartment breonna taylor was in?

if these are not her initials? what does that mean, shimon? explain that? >> reporter: exactly correct. we don't know yet and the will hear from the attorney general. some people here expected this. expected for prosecutors to get an indictment on this charge. it is probably the lowest -- excuse me, sir -- it's people here are very upset about this, brianna. >> of course. >> reporter: some folks here. a woman i was talking to, was in tears over this decision by the grand jury because they feel that the prosecutor did not go far enough. the reason why, back to your point is, in a second, is because the family, you recall asked for manslaughter charges. they felt at the very least that prosecutors should move ahead with manslaughter charges. it's very clear that did not happen here. so what we now have is a wanton endangerment charge, a class d felony. i believe only punishable up to five years in prison. much less than a manslaughter

charge and certainly much less than a murder charge and why the family wanted a manslaughter charge, sending a stronger message. it's not clear. you make a very good point. i talked to a civil rights lawyer who says it's going to be interesting to see if they chumley hold the officers accountable for the breonna taylor, the killing of breonna taylor. that is something that we have to wait, probably, to hear from the attorney general. remember, we're waiting for ballistics evidence. waiting for more information about that. but it's very clear at least from this indictment that the attorney general felt that what the officers here did was illegal. right? because he certainly ---ing hankinson didn't fall proper procedure and set themselves up for this situation where this happened. that's an important part of this, but most important, it's going to be about the community and people who have been fighting for police reform, for

social justice across this country, across this country and reactions from here is any indication, this indictment is not going to be sufficient for a lot of the people who have been out here protesting every day, sitting here for weeks, calling for justice. and you can hear behind me already -- i think a lot of people, brianna, will are very unhappy about this. >> and laura, so many questions. nothing will bring breonna taylor back. right? so many questions about the detective work that went into pinpointing her apartment. about the fact that that detective work seemed to not understand in a actually, normally, on other evenings there even would be other people in her apartment and also how that -- how that warrant was executed, and whether officers really did what they were supposed to do when they were

executing it and did they tell the truth about it? and did they follow proper protocol? i think certainly anyone looking at what detective hankenson did would have serious questions about someone firing indiscriminately in a way it went into, it appears, multiple apartments, what it appears by the charges. correct me if you think i'm wrong, laura, but there are a number of other charges that especially the people there around shimon are going to say, this isn't really accountability in this system. >> that's true. you have the idea first of all -- we knew pretty early on by the sdrichdescription by thee chief why this officer was fired that he could have harmed an apartment building, an apartment unit neighboring that had, i believe three occupants. ub m you play see, without me actually having in in front of me 0, the initials core

spornding tospornd i corresponding with an apartment. >> three occupants? >> my belief from the police chief's earlier letter he wrote over the summer when he fired the officer now charged. but this does not answer or resolve the question or the explanation of wanton disregard for human life. it begs the question, if it was wanton disregard for human life to indiscriminately shoot through and into an apartment occupied by breonna taylor and bullets fired into a neighboring apartment, why wasn't it enough to actually charge behavior when there actually was a homicide in that room? people will wonder that question and they'll have to provide information as to why. i suspect part of the issue, always an issue in this case. one in which has been the subject of a great deal of commentary from the police officers and others who debated this issue about what was the

responsibility and role of the police officers and what was their reaction given that there was a gunshot fired in their direction from the boyfriend of breonna taylor, who believes he was being harmed or at risk of being harmed, along with breonna taylor and didn't understand who was coming into the apartment. the officers say they announced themselves, even though it was a no-knock warrant. neighbors are saying they never heard the officers announce themselves. a battering used to enter into the apartment building. still questions surrounding the use of force against these two individuals. particularly given, breonna, learning more information about the person actually the suspect and subject of the overarching warrants represented to narcotics activity, his whereabouts were already known by police officers, at the time they executed the warrant. already known and possibly even in custody. so this is still looming large over the community asking for

not just a sliver of accountability but full accountability, and i would be remiss to not mention this. you know, last week one of the highest levels of semgtsments. not highest, but a $12 million direct settlement entered into between the family of breonna taylor and in the wrongful death action against louisville. that was but a part of a cry for justice. you well know, money does not replace a human being's life and a part of that, a part of that settlement included corrective reforms including the termination of these no-knock warrants. including having possibly a paramedic outside to be able to tend to somebody who may have been a victim of violence inside. none of that was afforded to ms. breonna taylor in her home nor, of course, to the boyfriend. >> right. it wasn't bp you have to wonder. could that paramedic have made the difference? could body camera footage have made the difference? could that no-knock warrant of a different type, not prone to

confusion have made the difference? i want to go back to, shimon, there in louisville. shimon, i know this is very difficult and this is not the degree of account act that many people there are hoping for. >>. >> reporter: yeah. a woman here, very upset, brianna. she's drying, and just got too upset and couldn't do it. she septembkept saying they got with it. a lot of people feel the charges did not go far enough and are upset. people have been crying leer. this is exactly what i think the police and the government officials here were concerned about this grand jury decision. whether or not it was going to go far enough to appease many of the people who have been out here for weeks, and also her family. right? let's remember breonna taylor's family in all of this. they wanted more. it would seem right now they did

not get what they wanted, and certainly people here. people are out here. there's a woman in the distance here. very upset, and that's been -- the reaction here from a lot of the people. just very upset. we've seen, as i said, people crying, and so we will see what the rest of the day here and obviously the night brings, but you can hear some of the chants now. many of these people, brianna, have been here for weeks. this park, jefferson square park harks been set up as a vigil. police allowed them to remain here and they've been here waiting for this day, waiting to hear what charges if any were going to be brought, and as you can see -- they're now gathered around and many of the people just very unhappy with the grand jury, with that count, that felony count. the lowest felony, i should add, the wanton endangerment, and

yeah, shimon, let's, as we watch this scene there in jefferson square park, let's just recount for viewers what has happened here in this police-involved killing of bree oonna taylor fr back in march. only one of the three officers who fired shots have been charged. one of the reasons that you are seeing folks here in this park, calling for accountability in the form of serious charges against all three it of these officers, they are distressed it is just one, and what we've learned about the charge against that officer is that it is not manslaughter. all right? this is wanton endangerment in the first degree. it is a felony, but this is not anything that would bring a life sentence, and that is not enough accountability when you see some of the protesters here in jefferson square park.

shimon, i want to bring in jason carroll. one of the things we're hoping to hear, jason is from the kentucky attorney general. look, this is a complicated case. i would really encourage people to read up on this. there is no bodycam footage of it. right? we don't have video of it, which i think for some people makes it maybe difficult to understand but a lot of information about what happened that night that raises questions about why were the police even there? was this no-knock warrant the right way to approach it? of the officers who fired their weapons, which bullets struck breonna taylor? right? who killed breonna taylor? who is physically responsible for doing that? there is ballistics information, there is, should be a lot of information from which the kentucky attorney general is going to be able to pull from, and try to explain why we are seeing these charges, jason? >> reporter: right, and still a lot of outstanding questions here, and the attorney general's

going to be laying out his case. just a few moments from now. but we already know the foundation of what has happened here. basically, wanton endangerment in the first degree and according to kentucky state law that happens when a person has countenly engaged in contact creating a substantial danger or death or serious physical injury, wanton. again, a low-level felony. punishable by up to five years. this is not what breonna taylor's family wanted to see. not what her mother wanted to see. i've spoken to her on a few occasions and at one point asked did she have faith in the system? she said that she has seen the system fail so many times, she didn't really have faith that the system was going to rule in her favor this time. and even before this happened, breonna, thee brianna, a lot of talk about officer hankinson was fired by the louisville metro police

department for wantonly and blindly firing his weapon ten times, and there was a lot of talk among those who support breonna taylor and her family perhaps this officer would be the "fall guy." and then the reason they say that, is because it's the family's position that all three of the officers that day were reckless. that all three of them should be held accountable, amend at the very least, that these officers should have faced second-degree manslaughter charges. that is not what we're seeing, and, again, we're going to hear from the attorney general. get an opportunity to hear about the case, lay out some of the specifics in terms of how they reached that decision. a lot of concern about what's going to happen going forward. protests of that nature. obviously the taylor family called for peaceful protests. we've seen people out there at the park day in and day out, protest for some more than 100

dat days. not all peaceful but, again, the family hoping for peaceful prote protests. the city of louisville are at the point they have boarded up buildings in the downtown. the mayor call forded for a curt 9:00 p.m. protest from 9:00 to 6:00 p.m. national guard activated as a precaution as well. a lot of moving parts going on here, but one point is clear at this point. taylor's family, definitely disappointed with the outcome of the grand jury. brian brianna? >> it's so hard for people to understand some of this, jason, because here you have breonna taylor, a young woman who was at the time of pulling overnight shifts at the beginning of covid and she was -- that was what her life was and for it to end the

way it did, aed mid mid so many questions how this was contacted. i want to bring in charles -- please, go on, jason. please, go on. >> reporter: to add to that, 26 years old, beloved by her family and those who knew her, and you know, this is why it is so very difficult for so many people to understand who support the taylor family as to why the officers showed up in the way they did. why surveying that no-knock warrant in the way that they did? using a battering ram to break down her door. again, officers have said they announced themselves that day, that night on march 13th. that is the story that has been something that the taylor family does not support. they say that walker, her boyfriend at the time, did not hear the officers announce themselves. so a lot of questions. but end of the day, an innocent

woman, a 26-year-old woman is dead, and her feel is dealing with that. her mother struggling to deal with that. her mother told me she hasn't really had the time to grieve. immediately after her daughter's death, took on a life of its own. and so it's become sort of are part of this political movement. so a lot, again, as i say, a lot of moving parts, but we want to wait to hear from the attorney general to hear exactly what he has to say in terms of laying out the case. >> that's right. walker said he just heard banging. was actually concerned that it was breonna taylor's ex-boyfriend who was coming to make some sort of trouble and he was worried for his defense and the defense of breonna taylor. the police have said even though it was a no-knock warrant, they were knocking. they were announcing. i think i've heard, we've heard from a neighbor who said they heard police announce once, the most that we heard. but to hear from walker, he said, no. he just heard banging on the door and was very concerned. he didn't know it was the

police. going to shimon. you're there in louisville. what are you seeing? >> reporter: yeah. so now people are marching -- you can hear behind me. marching through downtown louisville. we left that area of the park that i was at before. and we're waiting for the attorney general to have his press conference. so he could explain himself and how he proceeded with this case, why he chose the route he chose. of course, that ballistic evidence, we need to hear more about that. we'll see if he gets into that, but the point and the -- the most important point, i think, is that the people here are not happy with this decision by the attorney general, or this decision by the grand jury, which did not go far enough. and so now as you can see, several hundred people have left the area that we were in, and we are now marching through downtown louisville, and i can tell you, there's no police

around. i think the police sort of have said that they were going to allow protesters to come to this area, to peacefully protest. to walk the streets. to march, and we're seeing that here. right now there is no police presence around here. we'll see as the day goes on and as we get into the night and what happens. there's a curfew here as jason was saying. the point is, this is going to be the opportunity, where we're going to hear a lot of these people voice their opinion's this. many have already, and we will see. very key here is going to be how the attorney general explains himself and what should be a press conference hoping momentarily. breonna? >> thank you, shimon, for pointing that out. we're awaiting that right now. we've learned a grand jury h has -- has been -- we've learned brett hankinson, the former police officer, has been indicted by a grand jury on these three counts of wanton endanger munt in the first degree but we're waiting for

really the reasoning behind it. waiting for the attorney general in kentucky to kind of show his work and explain what evidence didn't yield further charges that the people you see protesting there in jefferson square park and walking noun, where shimon is, why they think that this is not enough. i want to brink in charles ramsey, cnn law enforcement, former police commissioner to remind people what we're looking at here. just one of the three officers who fired shots in the death of breonna taylor by police in louisville has been charged, and these are three charges of wanton endangerment in the first degree. these have to do with apartments occupied it appears by initials given from what was announced from the grand jury, apartments occupied not by breonna taylor. what is your reaction to this, charles? >> i'm not surprised.

i mean, i always thought this was going to be a difficult case once it went beyond the one officer that was firing blindly. i mean, clearly, not only was he violating policy and training, probably prosecuted criminally. the other two officers, i didn't believe would ever be charged. i think one thing that's being not mentioned here that is very important, and that is that as the warrant was being executed, shot by mr. walker. they returned fire. i think we also have to remember, these things go down in a matter of seconds. i mean, you don't know who's who. you don't know any of that at the time. just know you're being fired upon. i worked narcotics and executed hundreds of search warrants and understand how dangerous it is when you're executing a search warrant. in charges filed based on evidence. no to appease people. so it will be interesting to

hear what the attorney general says. and in the press conference. i don't know all the evidence they have, but one thing i would really want to know more about is the actual complaint for search warrant. the information that was contained in that application for a search warrant, that led them to that location to begin with. what was it about that location? what was it about ms. taylor that led them to believe she would either have drugs, cash or other information at the time of the excuse of the search warrant? was it a confidential informant? just based on investigative work? what led hem to believe there would be evidence present on the scene? once they executed the search warrant jt that really has to be -- >> charles, let's listen be in to the attorney general. >> i know that many in louisville and across the commonwealth in the country have been anxiously awaiting the completion of our investigation into the death of ms. breonna

taylor. prior to this announcement, i spoke with ms. palmer, breonna taylor's mother. to share with her the results from the grand jury. many of you in this room know that i had the opportunity last month to meet in person with her, and other members of ms. taylor's family. including ms. beorange kaw off the and i want to publicly express my condolences. every day this family wakes up to the realization that someone they loved is no longer with them. there's nothing i can offer today to take away the grief and heartache that this family is experiencing as a result of losing a child, a niece, a sister, and a friend. what i can provide today are the facts, which my office has

worked long and hard to uncover, and analyze and scrutinize since accepting this case in mid-may. i urge everyone listening today to not lose sight of the fact that a life has been lost. a tragedy under any circumstances. the decision before my office as the special prosecutor in this case was not to decide that the loss of ms. taylor's life was a tragedy. the answer to that question is unequivocally, "yes." there is no doubt that this is a gut-wrenching, emotional case and the barrpain that many peop are feeling is understandable. i deeply care about the value and sanctity of human life. it deserves protection, and in this case a human life was lost. we cannot forget that. my job as the special prosecutor

in this case was to put emotions aside and investigate the facts to determine if criminal violations of state law resulted in the loss of ms. taylor's life. this included examining the actions offing sergeant jonathan mattingly, detective brett in working with our federal partners on this case. and it's to maintain some level of separation to insure the integrity of each investigation. when examining issues surrounding civil rights violations, we determined any such vilations are better addressed through a federal-led investigation and issues

concerning the shooting are better addressed by a state-led investigation. and the events are focussed on the events that took place in ms. taylor's apartment. oa dedicated team of prosecutors and investigators with more than 200 years of combined year experience conducted a thorough investigation to better understand. they're true public servants who, for months, have shown up every day with a desire for one thing and that is to seek the truth. we decided while we would examine materials examined by the public integrity unit, we would need conduct our own

independent investigation and start from scratch in the effort of thoroughness. bethere was no body camera footage. video footage begins at the point that area patrol officers arrive at the location. therefore, the sequence of events had to be pieced together through ballistics evidence. 911 calls, police radio traffic, and interviews. we utilized information from the kentucky state police, local medical examiners, as well as working with the fbi crime lab in quantico to secure a analysis and report. our team spent thousands of hours examining all of the available evidence. we concluded our last interview in this case this past friday.

and began our grand jury presentation on monday. as long as the case is making its way through our legal system, i can only speak in general terms about our independent investigation and findings. and making public comments that can in any way prejudice this case as it moves forward. each state has different rules about what prosecutors can and cannot say. the kentucky rules are clear that i'm prohibited from making comments that could sway public opinion or heighten those involved in the case. these are crucial rules to insure due process under the constitution. when they prematurely release information to the public, you can risk justice by poisoning the jury pool, violating the

accused rights to a fair trial and even jeopardizing the final verdict. the success of our legal system is predicated on the principal that the accused is innocent until proven guilty. despite passions, opinions, and desire for every detail to be known n rule of law musz be applied. justice must be done. in the early morning hours of march 13th, officers executed a search warrant, at 3003, springfield drive, apartment 4. this is her residence. they were advised to knock and somebody obtain that warrant by the criminal and addiction

division. federal law enforcement partners are conducting that investigation. sergeant maddingly and cause grove had no known involvement in the preceding investigation or obtaining of the search warrant. they were called into duty as extra personnel to efecktuate the service of the search warrant. they only had information conveyed to them during their prior briefing. evidence shows that officers, both knocks and announced their presence at the apartment. the officer's statements about their announcement are corroborated by an independent witness who was near in proximity to apartment four.

then the decision was made to breach the door. after breaching the door, sargent maddingly was the first and only officer to enter the residence. he identified two individuals standing beside one another at the end of the hall. a male and a female. arms extended in a shooting stance. sergeant maddingly saw the gun fire, heard a boom, and immediately knew he was shot as a result of feeling heat in his upper thigh. walker reported the change and admitted he fired one shot and was the first to shoot. in addition to all the testimony, the belistsics report

shows, the round was fired from a .09 millimeter handgun. the officers fired .40 caliber handguns. maddingly fired six shots and detective coz grove shot 16 times. this took place in a matter of seconds. six bullets struck ms. taylor and indicates only one sought was fatal and from the fatal shot within a few seconds to two minutes after being struck detective hengenson fired including from an outside sliding glass door and a bedroom window.

some travelled into apartment three before some exited that apartment. including a male, a pregnant female, the child. there's no there's no conclusive evidence that it struck ms. taylor. the ballistics analysis did not identify which of the three officers fired the fatal shot. after receiving that information, i asked the fbi crime lab to conduct its own analysis to see if they reach the same results. ballistics determined the fatal shot was fired by detective cosgrove. and looked to see if there were different procedures to have led

the fbi to determine who fired the fatal shot. both used similar equipment and analysis and each lab is highly respected for their work. there was nothing our investigators could point to or anything provide bood thirespective agencies that directly explains why one lab made the call, while the other did not. i think it's worth repeating again that maddingly and cosgrove were justified after having been fired upon by kenneth walker. secondary to this justification, the fbi ballistics analysis, creating a reasonable doubt about who fired the fatal shot >> i understand the public's desire for answers. simply put, we had to try every

means necessary to determine who fired the fatal shot before the investigation could be completed. with a thorough and complete knowledge of all evidence in this case, present the findings of our independent investigation before a grand jury comprised of jefferson county residents, beginning monday and concluding today. in fletcher b. graham, they found the grand jury has competing but balanced functions. on the one hand its purpose is to investigate allegations of misconduct and determine if there's probable cause to believe a crime has been committed. on the other, the grand jury serves to protect the public against