this street, eighth street has been closed off but there is no curfew. so it remains to be seen where this march will go from here but it is peaceful and as the woman up there said, they will likely stay in the streets until they get justice. erin? >> thank you very much. alex, appreciate it as we watch this across the country tonight. thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. we're seeing calls for justice and relatively peaceful demonstrations at this moment in louisville where the curfew goes into effect one hour from now as thou authorities prepare for the possibility of fallout after a grand jury's decision to charge no one directly for the death of breonna taylor, the 26-year-old emt killed by police in march. the one officer was charged for wanton endangerment has posted bond and been released from jail. as we look at these pictures of protests through the streets, we'll keep them up and go to

jason carroll in louisville for a closer look at the case. jason? >> reporter: well, anderson, weaver just now left jefferson square park. you can see behind me a fire has been set. fire was set, two small fires in jefferson square park and another fire being set as you can see right here. some of these demonstrators setting fire to this bush in a tree. up the road a little bit, they smashed a bus stop, a small group proof test tors now have proeken off from the square are continuing to march at this point. they say they will march right through the curfew that is less than an hour away. former detective brett hankison faces three charge of wanton endangerment and two other officers that responded with gunfire, jonathan mattingly and miles cosgrove were investigated but do no face any criminal charges. >> according to kentucky law, the use of force by mattingly

and cosgrove were justified. based on the evidence, there is nothing conclusive to say that detective hankison's any of his bullets hit ms. taylor. >> reporter: in the months following ms. taylor's death, there is speculation surrounding the details what happened on the night of march 13th when police showed up serving a no new york warrant. evidence shows officers mattingly and cosgrove knocked and identified themselves before breaching taylor's door and he says there is an independent witness to corroborate their account. but dtaylor's boyfriend den beneath walker disputes that claim. he didn't hear police announce themselves and thought someone was trying to break in so he fired a shot. police have said that shot hit mattingly in the leg. >> all of a sudden, someone started beating on the door. they refused to answer when we

yelled who is it? 15 minutes later, breanna was dead from a hail of police gunfire. >> reporter: the attorney general says an fbi analysis determined the shot that killed taylor came from cost cosgrove. mattingly's attorney says the justice system worked. the death of breonna taylor was a tragedy but these officers did not act in a reckless or unprofessional manner. they did their duty and performed their roles and above all, did not break the law. in the months since taylor's death, her mother has wanted just one thing. >> criminal charges. they all four willingly c lly committed a crime so i don't think it's enough that one person should have to pay for it. it was a group effort. so. >> reporter: anderson, taylor's mother, taylor's family has repeatedly called for peaceful demonstrators to come out, not

to damage property in breonna taylor's name. tonight while we saw some peaceful protesters and demonstrations earlier, that's not what we're seeing at this point. again, some fires set down this street here. we heard this building being damaged right behind me as protesters continue marching down the street. marching throughout the streets of downtown louisville. again, the curfew is now less than an hour from now. that's going to be at 9:00. the mayor calling for calm. police asking people at this point to disburse and go home or they will be arrested. anderson? >> so how long have the protests been going on for? and we saw, i mean, it was, you know, we saw people lighting looked like a bush on fire. there was, i think you said another area on fire behind you when you first started. was that the first fires you've actually seen or had that been happening earlier, as well? >> reporter: the fires started

almost immediately after the grand jury made its decision. attorney general came out with the announcement and the word started to spread through the crowd many downtown louisville. at that point some of those in the crowd became agitated and in fact, anderson, a few hours ago, my crew and myself got caught in a scuffle between some of the demonstrators and police. at that point, police using pepper guns, pepper spray to disburse the crowd. it spread through the crowd very quickly and there is partially a reason for that. a lot of people out here in louisville who support breonna taylor's family expected a result like this. many of them were hoping for at the very least second degree manslaughter charges but many people out here were expecting this type of result and in onna she had very little faith in the system and that she was hoping the system would do right by her

but she seen the system fail so many others so many times, she herself did not have faith in the system. so it didn't take much for once word had spread for the anger to start among a lot of people down here in support of breonna taylor. anderson? >> jason, we'll continue to check in with you throughout the night. explain where you are and what you're seeing. >> reporter: so we're just -- this is a large group several hundred that left jefferson square park. we are now marching along this road here, anderson. something just happened. a car just tried to come through this intersection. a lot of the protesters have since they got to this intersection have tried to stop the traffic and it looks like a car came through and then many of them chased the car. so a lot of -- there was some excitement here over that. that seems to be calming down now. i want to show you anderson,

this way, the crowd is continuing to march. earlier some of the folks in this group, some of the protesters did clash with police. we were marching earlier just after the announcement came from the grand jury and they were marching through other areas of louisville and police had moved in pretty aggressively shooting those pepper balls at them trying to disburse the crowd and the police havehat they're goino be aggressive here. they're not going to wait and sit back as we would see them in some protests but certainly here tonight they have given indication that they are going to move in quickly. curfew is at 9:00 and the police have indicated they will strictly enforce that curfew. so we'll see. we have some time to go.

the national guard is here. there is state police here and the louisville police dressed in riot gear are driving around, actually, anderson in pickup trucks. something i've never seen before. and they're driving around and they're responding to flairups so we probably will see them up ahead here as they try to enter second this group. some of the people in this group did set small fires and now they're just marching through the streets. so we'll see at what point do the police move in here to try and prevent them from further mar marching here. >> i was just talking to jason and we actually saw on his shot two small fires that had been set. is that something you have been seeing, as well? >> reporter: now, the fires are relatively new for this protest. i have not seen any fires earlier. they started setting fires at jefferson square where jason was. i was there, as well. what happened was after they

started lighting the fires, the police told them they needed to clear out. that it was an illegal assembly and they needed to clear out but that wasn't until the fires started being set. and then the police came out in riot gear to ex ttinguish the fe and used a fire extinguisher and the people moved back but what was happening was the protesters were throwing water bottles at the police but the police retreated and they went back into the building. so the fires i have not seen. i did not see any fires set earlier during some of the marches but it looked like they were trying to burn a lot of the objects over at jefferson square park where a lot of the protesters have been staying for weeks in anticipation of this hearing to hear what's going to happen with this investigation. they are now setting parts of

that area on fire so after the police told them they had to clear out, they started marching. they anticipate. i have heard many of them, they anticipate the police moving in so they are trying to disburse. they are continuing to march here. we see some police up ahead here, anderson, so the question is when do the police, what they've been doing, anderson, they will make an announcement and they will say you have to disburse, you have to get out of the street or you'll get arrested. >> yeah. appreciate it. be careful. we're going to continue to keep the picture it is up as we talk more about the case. i want to go to drew griffin for one of the more controversial aspects of the events that led to the killing of breonna taylor. the warrant police received to enter the apartment. drew, your investigation of the warrant found a slew of issues. talk to me about that. >> really, anderson, this was not addressed by today's news conference at all. it still pretty much under

investigation. the question of why exactly the officers were even at breonna taylor's apartment that night at 12:40 in the morning with a battering ram. this was part of a broader kind of takedown of five different places. search warrants issued in no knock search warrants for each location. most of them were drug houses and then there was breonna taylor's apartment. this apartment of a 26-year-old girl. she had been dating in the past one of the targeted, i would say, petty drug dealers that was a target of one of these raids but the evidence we found in the search warrants was very, very thin. the only connection that we could see to breonna taylor's apartment is that in january, one of the suspects came to her apartment they say in the middle of the day, picked up a usps package and left. that is pretty much it. it was months old. they do believe that in february, one of the drug

dealers may have been getting some other mail but there is no evidence of that. and then when the actual search warrant was executed, after the shooting, anderson, they found no drugs, no money, nothing to connect breonna taylor. that's despite the fact that the detective who got these arrest warrants issued said in advance that it is his belief through training and evidence and experience that she may be keeping narcotics and proceeds from the sale of narcotics at the residence of breanna toy on. that's the crux of the case taylor's family brought against the louisville police. they don't believe in any reason she should have been targeted in the first place. >> police believe despite being issued a no knock warrant, they did indeed knock. breonna taylor's boyfriend said they did knock, in dispute did the police identify themselves. the boyfriend says no and all but one neighbor of breonna

taylor, is that correct? >> that's right. breonna taylor's current boyfriend kenneth walker believed it was the old drug dealer come a knocking in middle of the night and did not hear the words police. we talked to several other of the neighbors, immediate neighbors. this is a very tight little cluster. nobody i talked to heard the words police. most of them were woken up by gunfire. there was a person upstairs who poked his head out and told to get back in, that maybe the person they're referring to but anderson, we could find nobody who said we heard them say this is the police open up. >> drew griffin, hang on. i want to talk about these charges and what happened that night on march 13th with steven, the attorney for breonna taylor's boyfriend kenneth walker. your reaction today to the charges and what is your client's reaction.

>> my client is very disappointed. it's more of a coverup. as drew indicated, there were a dozen witnesses that said they did not identify themselves as police. the attorney general said well, the evidence that they identified themselves was both officers said they did. they're the targets of the investigation. you don't take their word at face value. >> the attorney -- >> it was corroborated by -- >> sorry. >> another witness. police that the day after nobody identified themselves as police. they had to interview two more times before they could get him to say i heard him say police. it is a recorded interview that is transcribed which he says, yet they go to the grand jury and rely on the statement and say yeah, they identified

themselves. it is incompetence and corruption at the highest order. >> the attorney general today said that the investigation found the officers were justified in their use of force after having been fired upon by your client kenneth walker. what's your response to that. >> okay. well, they may very well have been. that's a question to present to a jury. it is not for a prosecutor fiat to declare suspects innocent. i've been defending criminal cases for 30 years anderson. when my clients are charged with murder, they take it in front of the jury and the jury decides. the prosecutor doesn't say you're justified, go home now. that's the problem. that is what people are upset about. if a jury acquits them, fine. the prosecutors kexonerating thm

is not how the system works and shouldn't work that way for police either and shouldn't work that way in this case. t let a jury hear the case and determine if they got a defense and it rises to the level of a reasonable doubt. daniel cameron saying they are justified, that's not how it works. the other thing about it is this, you are never in kentucky justified for killing a third party when you're acting in self-defense. if you act recklessly and kill a third party, self-defense does not apply. that is not available to you under kentucky law. and yet, again, he just -- they claim we're not going to go forward. i'm deciding as, you know, the ruler on high that they were justified. and i will guarantee you the grand jury never had an opportunity to charge them with a homicide. it was never presented to them. >> the attorney general also

said your client kenneth walker fired the shot and there was no evidence to support mattingly was hit by friendly fire from the other officers. >> here is what i'll say. their ballistics investigation in the file indicates that the shot that hit mattingly is inconclusive whether it could came from kenny walker's gun. so when he says we're not going to charge officer hankison, that is exonerating hankison. it's inculpating walker. it's the exact same inconclusive conclusions and it is in the documents in front of them and what i said anderson a lot of things that contradict what attorney general daniel cameron said today release the report and the evidence in it and we'll see who is telling the truth. >> the -- >> because i've read it. i know what it says. >> the kentucky governor called on the attorney general to release information relating to

his office's investigation into breonna taylor's death. the louisville mayor said the ag should make publicly available information that doesn't jeopardize the attorney general after the cases for the public to be informed. is that going to actually happen? >> if it happens, it will show everything he said today was not supported by the everyday. so again, the question is why won't they release it? there is no justifiable reason not to be transparent and release the evidence. but if it is done, it will show what i'm telling you now is accurate and what he said today is not accurate. >> so you seen all the information that's in it? >> correct. >> and you seen that in the capacity as kenneth walker's attorney, you're allowed to see that? >> correct. >> lastly, where does ken nenet walker's lawsuit stand now? >> we have filed our complaint. we've sent subpoenas that for them to publicly release. all the evidence in the case,

that's what we're asking for. and we're waiting for them to file a responsive pleading and answer the case. we'll go forward. i'm ready to start taking depositions of these people now. let's get them under oath and see what they have to say. >> appreciate your time. thank you. i want prospeerspective fro charles ramsey, former police commissioner and washington d.c.'s former police chief and gloria brown marshall a constitutional law professor. she's also the author of she took justice, the black woman law and power 1619 to 1969. back with us is drew griffin. what you just heard from kevin walker's attorney, he's saying he has seen what's in the full report, the evidence and that it doesn't back up what the attorney general is saying. >> anderson, i just don't know that that is true. i, of course, would love to see what was presented to the grand

jury. i don't believe that attorney was in the grand jury and saw what was presented, so i would like to learn more from him what exactly he is referring to other than what the police have already released in this case. but i do agree with him there is a lot of questions that still remain unanswered and it would have been good to have this go to a jury or a trial so that all that evidence could be presented. what we have here is a truncated form of justice with a grand jury able to decide, based on just the everyday presenidence them by the attorney general what the case would eventually be. >> mr. professor brown marshall, i'm wondering your reaction to the decision? >> my initial reaction was outrage, sadness. it was american history repeating itself. african americans in particular, african american women have been brutalized throughout the history of this country and the

prosecutor system needs reform. we focus so much on the criminal justice system from the police angle but we don't look at the system and it's not too late to indict these officers. just because they weren't indicted with this i'm panelled grand jury doesn't mean they can't be indicted in the future. we need to understand kenneth walker acted in self-defense but it only matters if you're white and if you're black reckless endangerment and reckless behavior or even down right murder is already if the officer is in any way in danger and it doesn't matter how that officer might have endangered those people in that room. black people aren't safe in their beds or driving or walking. as an african american and woman, this is historically what america has done is destabilize the black community and make us feel we're unsafe anywhere without protection by police or the prosecutor's office. >> chief ramsey, do you agree?

>> not entirely, i don't. let me first start by saying that the death of breonna taylor is indeed a tragedy. no question about that. i do agree with drew. i mean, there needs to be more information made public so that people can actually see the evidence as long as it doesn't jeopardize the pending trial of the one officer who by the way, i clearly believe should have been charged in this case. i don't know kentucky law but he definitely should have been charged and he was charged. the other two officers however, mattingly and cosgrove were executing a warrant. it alleged they knocked and announced their office. a witness heard that. whether or not others heard it, i don't know. fit was a no knock warrant, they didn't have to do that. they made a forced entry. one officer mattingly was shot by one of the individuals in the

apartment, mr. walker. and they returned fire. they were fired upon and returned fire. that is a justified use of force. now you can debate and it's unfortunate obviously and tragic that breonna taylor was struck and killed. it would have been equally tragic if mr. walker had been shot and killed. any death is a tragedy, but when you talk about criminal charges, that's entirely different in my opinion. again, i can only go based on what the attorney general said in his statement. i don't have access to any other information but i do believe and drew raised this issue, which i think is probably a key issue here and that is why were they there to begin with? was in the complaint for the search warrant? led them to that location and believe breonna taylor was involved in criminal activity or find any kind of criminal

evidence once they executed the search warrant. this has to be fresh information. that can't be based on what you saw two months ago. >> drew, you're saying that's exactly what it was. this was something shaky to begin with. >> yeah, and that needs to be scrutinized carefully. >> chief ramsey -- >> the people that executed the warrant were not the ones that applied for the warrant. >> drew, quickly, on the timing. >> just -- i would ask chief ramsey, the only physical evidence that you can see in this warrant was they saw this drug dealer at that apartment on january 16th. that's it. and so we have a shooting in march. it really -- >> professor -- >> -- shows i think a lack of good police -- >> i'm not arguing and saying the warrant was good. i don't know. i didn't read the warrant. i don't know what they had. i'm saying the shootings itself and the officers executing the warrant weren't part of that investigation. >> professor brown marshall, you're shaking your head.

>> i'm shaking my head because this is a carry state and this is what happens when here is someone with the right to have a weapon who it's after midnight someone bursts through the door and they shot at the person after asking who is it and not hearing anything. the right of self-defense for black people is almost nonexistent when it comes to a white person who is the victim. if this had been the other way around, we just had a case in which people are killing black folks in their own apartment and in this instance, they had a right to defend themself. kenneth walker had a right to defend himself and so to say that the officer was justified in firing back when the officer shouldn't have been there in the first place, kenneth was just y justified in firing that shot. so i think we're in the wrong position here when it comes to what police officers are doing with a white person who is a victim and what they would have done with a black person and that's what history bears out and what we have today.

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as we watch the marchers in louisville, kentucky and countdown to the curfew in less than an hour now, reporters on the ground say police there intend to enforce, we want to focus on protests against the grand jury verdict in the killing of breonna taylor happening in the rest of the country. you're seeing some -- you're seeing what you're seeing. the scene in louisville, kentucky. protests in philadelphia and also in new york city. let me go to alex marquardt in washington d.c. what have you been seeing so far? >> reporter: anderson, this march here for breonna taylor for black lives matter has just arrived at the white house at lafayette park which of course is ground zero for so many of the protests that we've seen over the course of this summer. this protest started at the department of justice as the sun was setting. they came down eighth street close in front of lafayette square chanting breeway.

a take on her name. what you're seeing here is part memorial, part protest. we've heard tributes to breanon tayl taylor. we heard testimonials like the words from her own mother. we've also heard speeches about police reform, about the black experience in america, about political reform and even political revolution. you can see people holding the portrait of breonna taylor over their heads. this was of course the scene, the site of a number of protests earlier this summer in the wake of the killing of george floyd. you can see the senses -- >> alex, i'm sorry. we got to come back to you. i want to go to louisville, can you explain what is going on? we're seeing in our shot. >> reporter: so we are with that same group and what happened was there was fireworks, what sounded like fireworks maybe even gunshots and then police started moving in and you can see here to my left, police

pointing weapons moving people back and part of it, what happened, anderson is what sounded like gunfire. the police started moving and you can see them here pushing our david and one of our photographers, david, come this way. so what happened is, anderson, if you're with me, here, let me just -- what happened was this crowd was marching. they come to this area and the police block them off. the police block them off. they then started running and what sounded like gunfire quite honestly, there was fireworks but then something sounded like gunfire and we saw heavily armed police in these armored cars here you'll see going by me move in quickly. that's what is happening. they are trying to move out of the way and then you can see. i want to show you quickly -- >> i just got to go over to jason carroll. jason carroll. i'm not sure where you're at in

relationship shimon. >> reporter: just to -- hold on, we have officers coming this way. yes. just as shimon said, it sounded like fireworks at jefferson square. just a few minutes ago, we heard from one of the undercover officers out here it was gunfire. at that point, everyone started running in a lot of different directions. we came and took cover underneath this overpass. right now we have police telling us what we need to do at this point moving forward but a number of police in riot gear moved in. did what they could to disburse the crowd and have been asking the crowd to disburse for the last hour as soon as your show started, we started showing you the fires that have been started in various places and what some of the protesters were doing about a couple hundred of them, they started marching throughout the city of louisville setting

fires as they were going on their way. then that stopped. we got to this point where this overpass is here and you had a bottleneck of a couple hundred of these protesters. that's when someone lit off a firework shortly after that, we heard gunfire and at this point police now moving in. we're going to asses the situation. see if we can get more information and get back to you. anderson? >> jason carroll, thank you. we'll continue to monitor that and now we're back at shimon. you're at the same group of people jason is at the rear end of, correct? >> reporter: right. i think jason is now at a distance, i think understand there under pass. remember, anderson, one of the first shots we saw was the police coming out of their cars and pointing their large guns at the people who were sitting along the grass to the entrance

to the highway here. and they were telling them to put their hands up. everyone started running one because the police blocked the street off and they were trying to block them in from the back and the front but then the gunshots and that's when it really started running. so now it's all cleared up. there is some police standing around. the second time i think for tonight that we've heard gunshots, anderson. >> be careful, please. you and your crew as we continue to look at the demonstrations happening tonight, protests of the three charges the grand jury delivered in connection of the killing. none were really for her death. want to play you what president trump said a few days ago. here he is quoting the attorney general for kentucky discussing the charges shortly after they were announced. >> really brilliant kentucky attorney general daniel cameron doing a fantastic job. i think he's a star. he made a statement that i'll

just read. justice is not often easy. it does not fit the mold of public opinion and it does not conform to shifting standards. it answers only to the facts and to the law. if we simply act on emotion or outrage, there is no justice. mob justice is not justice. justice sought by violence is not justice. it just becomes -- i said write that down for me. i thought it was a terrific statement. >> joining me is congresswoman bass. congresswoman bass, you heard the announcement obviously from the kentucky attorney general. >> i thought it was tragic and also insulting. the idea that the charge they indicted him for is the bullet went through a building not her life, losing her life was not

indictable. i think that they should have allowed this case to go to trial so that there could have been true justice but it just reinforces the need for passing legislation because part of the reason why these incidents are happening is because it's impossible to hold officers accountable until the law is changed. >> the kentucky attorney general said that there was not enough evidence to file homicide charges against the officer. charles ramsey ahead of the washington d.c. police department said he largely agrees with what was announced today if it is true that what handed to bee reonna taylor doe not warrant homicide charges. what does it say how the law is written to you? >> that's the point and why we need to change the law. for example, the idea that police officers receive immunity. if they know they have immunity, then it easy for them to act with impunity. if the bar to charge or to prosecute on officer is so high

that you can never prosecute them and that is the way the law is currently, they should be prosecuted for recklessness. but right now, the only way you can prosecute an officer is for willful intent meaning if they deb l deliberately meant to kill somebody. the second amendment clearly does not apply to everyone, an open carry and her boyfriend's right to defend himself obviously didn't apply. but you do remember that those officers tried to cover it up. remember, they arrested her boyfriend and then they also tried to force her implicating her into drug dealing to cover up an act like they had a reason to knock that door down. that's why there should be no no knock warrants. we should not allow those. just like we should ban choke holds. so there are structural reasons why these things keep occurring

and we need to change the law in order to prevent this. this is why the george floyd justice and policing act needs to be passed. it needs to be voted on in the senate. it sitting on mcconnell's desk. >> does the fault lie with -- i guess charles ramsey was sort of putting the owning on questions of the warrant in the first place if it was based on old information about somebody that lived there or once received mail there allegedly months before whether or not that should have been issued but a no knock warrant was issued and they did apparently knock and the boyfriend fired the first shot thinking he said that it was the former person who lived there or didn't realize it was police. is it possible that the police were legitimate in firing back thinking they were being fired upon and it's the question the

warrant is the problem? >> well, anderson, due diligence was also part of the problem, too. you do know that the man they were looking for was in their custody. how about checking to see where the person might be before you go? but again, the justice and policing act eliminates no knock warrants for drug cases. you know, in a six-year period from 2010 to 2016, 94 civilians were killed with no knaock warrants. 13 police officers were killed. it dangerous for both sides. they shouldn't occur. >> as we look at what is taking place now in louisville, kentucky and seen demonstrations in new york and philadelphia this ercvening. what is your message to folks who are angry and frustrated and disgusted and are out on the streets? >> 41 days. that's my message. we have an election in 41 days. but i think the protests are

very, very helpful as long as they are peaceful. because it was the momentum for those protests that allowed us to develop the george floyd justice and policing act allowed us to pass it out of the house. so the protests are important but i'm deeply worried about them becoming violent and i'm also very worried about agent p provok tors. the blewulu guys were hanging around and white supremacist organizations and from people opportunists because there is a lot of people out there, maybe i can loot. the worst thing in the world would be for violence. >> congresswoman cara bass, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> want to go to athoueena jone here in new york. talk about where you are and what you've been seeing. >> reporter: we're crossing the

manhattan bridge. this is a group of several hundred demonstrators who met at the barclay center in downtown break ly brooklyn. we've been walking for about a mile and a half. it a huge crowd. they covered all the lanes, all three sections of this bridge. there are people on a lower level. there are people across the way marching in traffic. this has been a peaceful protest. talking to people, they are frustrated. they are angry. they are angry because there is no fairness or sense of justice. no accountability for the loss of black lives and so this is what we're hearing them talk about as we've heard before, they want to see accountability. they want to see change. and they want to see the lives of breonna taylor all of the other people killed at the hands of police. they want those police held accountable. this is a group. i've been told by the crowd it's been growing not just by the hundreds, which is what it was when we arrived at first but it goes back almost a mile or half a mile. you can see the crowd chanting

say her name. >> is there one particular group that organized this? there is a lot of different groups involved in protest movements and often they, it's done on social media and tell people where they want to meet up and where they're going to go. >> reporter: this is done on social media. right. this is one that's done on social media. it not very clear how organized it was in the sense of where their ultimate destination is, but there an instagram site and handle called justice for george floyd and that's one of the ways they are getting out the word to bring the people to come. it's been at least an hour chanting and talking and began marching about maybe half an hour ago. it's loose lly organized. >> thank you. one officer has been shot. they aren't providing any additional details as our

reporters have been indicating with jason carroll and shimon. they heard at least a shot, perhaps more shots also some fireworks and we saw police moving in just in the last few minutes. in some areas particularly around a highway and overpass. the police say we will update when we can. another statement from the police. we'll be right back with more from louisville and new york and washington d.c. we'll many right back. feel the cool rush of claritin cool mint chewables. b right back. e right back. plus an immediate cooling sensation for your throat. feel the clarity, and live claritin clear.

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we are following breaking news. protests in the wake of a grand

jury decision in the killing of breanonna taylor. one officer has been shot in the demonstrations. shimon, what do you know? >> reporter: this is the area, we believe, anderson where that officer was shot. we were walking with that group when we heard the gunshot fired. this happened behind here. we don't know much more than what the police have already put out, which is that this one officer was shot and that's about all the details we have at this point. this is something obviously that many of the officers here in the city has feared, there would be some protests would turn violent and certainly, if this officer as the police are saying was shot, this is definitely going to be an escalation here and we'll see how police respond. what they are doing is trying to block off all of the intersections here and trying to keep people away. a lot of the protesters have

left and so right now it's just police and they're obviously investigating the shooting. >> and no details have been given. is the protest continuing? obviously, that area is roped off. >> reporter: that's right. this area is roped off. there is still a lot of people >> that's right. this area is roped off. there's a lot of people on the street. maybe 10 minutes or so away from kerr few. that's going to bring some confrontation with police. the group that was here, it was a lot of them. most of them have zbursed, we don't know where they went. they're still on the street as we approach the curfew. >> to the white house, where president trump talked about his thinking. what he'll do after the election? for him it was pretty remarkable. >> mr. president, real quickly.

win, lose or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferral of power after the election. there's been writing across the cunning the in your red and blue states. will you commit to making sure there's a peaceful transfer of power after the election. >> i've been saying about the ballots. >> i understand that. but will you make sure there's a peaceful transfer of power. >> if you get rid of the ballots, it won't be peaceful, it will be a continuation. the democrats know 2 better than anyone else. >> president not saying he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power.

jeffrey toobin, cnn political commentator, twice the president was asked about committing to a peaceful transfer of power. any president would say, of course, they would commit to a peaceful transfer of power. not this president. >> you know, not oath has no president ever said anything like that, as far as i'm aware, no president has ever thought anything like that, one of the touchstones of american democracy is when the two presidents, the incoming and outgoing president take the limousine together from the white house to the capitol to the swearing-in. including the defeeted president. jim my carter and ronald reagan. they sit there together in the limousine as a symbol of the peaceful transition of power. i don't see any scenario where donald trump agrees to participate in that sort of ceremony even if he loses this election. and i think it's tragic, but

revealing about his character and his presidency. >> before you answer, i want to tell our viewers, we're keeping pictures up from louisville, kentucky, one officer has been shot, we don't know that officer's condition, we're just trying to monster events as best we can, we have several cameras in different locations. david, i mean, your thoughts on his comments. >> look, i can live with him not participating in the ceremony of the transfer of power. he's giving license to people to take to the streets if they don't like the result of the election. and what he said was, we want to get rid of the ballots. there won't be a transfer frankly. let's discount all these write in ballots. there was a pole over the weekend that said 74% of the people that say they're going to take write in ballots, say

they're going to vote for joe biden. he knows this too, this is a way of disqualifying or trying to qualify votes. giving license to people to believe it's not valid if donald trump doesn't get elected. the president likes to throw the word treason around, you see it in his tweets all the time. it strikes me this comes close to that. it's really really alarming. and something not just democrats, but republicans should be appalled by and should speak out about. >> it's not just as david said, taking to the streets, it's taking the streets in a demonstrably not peaceful way. it's one thing to take to the streets and protest, violent protests we've seen an officer shot here, that's not acceptable. >> and he's talked about militias in his tweets. this is related to the supreme court too. remember, he has said that the reason he wants a nomination

jammed through on this totally expedited schedule is because he wants to challenge the -- the mail in votes and the supreme court. and he wants his justice on the court at the time. i mean, it's all -- >> he said that outloud, that's pretty incredible. >> everything is what he's doing is trying to delegitimize the traditional elections that we hold, and create the structure that allows him to stay in power. >> what do you expect? what do you expect to happen now after election night. do you see anyway to avoid some sort of political conflict at the least in the days and weeks after the election. >> 62% of his voters say they're going to vote on election day. their votes will be counted on election day, the write-in

votes, many of them will be counted after election day, so long as they're postmarked before election day. he will claim that he had won and the votes were taken from him, i think he's setting up that scenario. there are only two outcomes in his mind, either he wins or the election was rigged. there's no third option. it's dangerous, because he's sending a signal to people they can take to the streets with guns if they don't like the outcome of this eleksz. it's really a horrifying thing. >> david axelrod, jeffrey toobin thank you very much. one police officer we're told has been shot, we don't know much more than that, we don't know anything more than that about the officer's condition. we'll go back to one of our reporters there when we continue. ♪ live the life you want to have♪ ♪ send it off, with a bang ♪

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>> reporter: we're trying to get more information on the officer that has been shot. most of the protesters that were out here have been dispersed. just 20 minutes or so ago, we were walking where that overpass is, it was a large group of demonstrators, i'd say a couple hundred, we heard what sounded like fireworks, seconds after that, we heard the gurn fire. almost just as quickly, most of the crowd dispersed, at this point as you say, we're just minutes away from the curfew, i heard one of the organizers out here, with some of those demonstrators who are out here and left. you simply said, curfew is coming underway. we wants you to move to a church that's nearby. we want you to get off the streets, certainly a tragic end to a night where we've seen small fires being lit.

damage being made to a building as these protesters made their way from jefferson square park to about a half mile away to where we are now. >> jason carroll, thank you very much. our coverage continues with chris and cuomo prime time. >> thank you, anderson. we're monitoring the situation right now. i am chris cuomo. protests on the street of louisville after a grand jury brought down an indictment in the brianna taylor case. without any impact on bre on in a taylor directly. nothing to do with her killing. is that the right call legally? i'll take you through it, it's not simple. but it is simple politically. it is deeply unsatisfying for many. a curfew is starting right now. terrible news, a police officer has been shot tonight. what are the circumstances, we pray they're okay. we're going to try to get you

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