way from jefferson square park to about a half mile away to where we are now. >> jason carroll, thank you very much. our coverage continues with chris and cuomo prime time. >> thank you, anderson. we're monitoring the situation right now. i am chris cuomo. protests on the street of louisville after a grand jury brought down an indictment in the brianna taylor case. without any impact on bre on in a taylor directly. nothing to do with her killing. is that the right call legally? i'll take you through it, it's not simple. but it is simple politically. it is deeply unsatisfying for many. a curfew is starting right now. terrible news, a police officer has been shot tonight. what are the circumstances, we pray they're okay. we're going to try to get you the information, here's what's not in question.

violence only makes everything worse. and look that's where we are. and it has to be said, it's one more thing that should be so obvious and yet is a divided principle right now. let alone against the men and women we trust to protect us. one more thing that should be obvious, is that nothing is made better on these streets. if the people that we have in power who are supposed to calm, who are supposed to create change stay silent. that makes us ask why did the president refuse to address the need for calm in kentucky when he was asked. why did he choose to celebrate the prosecutor, celebrate the grand jury determination, but say nothing for those processing pain and outrage. it is not easy to accept why the police were justified in not just shooting, but killing a

nonshooter. breonna taylor was an innocent party. streets filling with people who are outraged who don't understand. who need counsel, who need guidance, and in the absence of that, we must have concern of what happens next it's not just coming from me. it's a word of caution from a legend of the civil rights era. listen. >> a violent response would be a mistake, it would be a commercial for trump. we can't do that. we must not turn our anger into disruption. turn pain to power. violence will help trump's cause. you know who believes that?

trump. helps him with the base that he's constantly scaring about black marauders. blm to him, to his friends on fox, it's not a movement, it's a boogy man. fox gets it, they struggle to say breonna correctly, but they get the correct play. blamed the outrage for their own pain. say those calling for justice, really want mob rule, the hotter, the better trump gets it, that's why he's refusing to rule out if he loses the election in six weeks, that there will be a peaceful transfer of power. >> there has been rioting a little, there's been rioting in many cities across this cun the, your so-called red and blue states. will you commit to make sure there is a peaceful transferral of power after the election. >> we'll have to see what happens. i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots. the ballots are a disaster.

>> i understand that, but people are rioting. >> we want to get rid of the ballots and we'll have a peaceful -- there won't be a transfer, frankly, there will be a continuation. the ballots are out of control. >> brothers and sisters, this is not okay. we have to see what happens, in the commander in chief. get rid of all the absentee ballots, a legitimate instrument of our democracy, and then he'll be okay. it's not presidential, it's pathetic and you know it. and every republican in washington who stands for the constitution, who says that's what matters to him or her. should be calling it out because that is destructive to remaining a republic, and they know it. i remind you. forget none of this, these are the days that will be recorded in history. how do you want to be remembered. what you ignore, you empower.

what is less obvious is not what trump is doing. it's what happened in this case. the grand jury reckoning in the taylor case is not easy, here's why. it assumes a focus on what happens after the cops entered in the middle of the night. but it has to start with, well, why did they go there? this isn't just about the instant case, it's about the circumstances and what it means in terms of policing. police stormed breonna taylor's home, not for her, but looking for her ex-boyfriend, a suspected drug dealer. was it a no knock warrant? did they barge in? if so did they get it. did they knock? did they announce or not? her boyfriend says he didn't hear them. and if they -- even if they did, he didn't hear it, someone else says they did hear it.

others say they didn't hear it. where does that leave us. walker says they thought it was the same drug dealer they were looking for who used to date breonna taylor. an officer was hit, by walker or friendly fire? ballistics make it unclear. what is clear is that breonna taylor didn't fire, she wasn't under suspicion, she wasn't seen in anyway threatening. she didn't have a weapon. she was shot and killed by police. the three charges for fired officer brett hankinson are for first degree won ton endangerment. that he should have perceived a risk he ignored and fired anyway, for bullets that went into neighboring apartments, not

the ones that killed taylor. because taylor's apartment had gunfire coming at them, it was reasonable. but it was still reasonable to shoot an earn sent third party under the law? kentucky's attorney general says the two other officers who fired shots were justified because of what i just said, their use of force was okay because taylor's boyfriend fired at them first. it leaves you with the same question. if you get fired at, it's okay if you kill anybody else? that's okay? absolutely. and if the grand jury lex, that's not something that has to go before a jury? what does this mean? well, the first instant circumstance we have to deal with is what's going on in the streets and what may have happened to this police officer tonight. we have reports of a shooting, let's go to the ground in louisville with shimon prokupecz. what do you know about the

shooting? >> one of their officers had been shot, we believe it happened behind me here, that's why the police have closed off this road. we were following the protesters when we heard fireworks, and then moments later we could hear the gunshots and then people running, the entire episode appears to have been captured by the police department on their live stream on their facebook page. and here's what it sounded like at that moment. [ gunfire ] >> good? you all good? [ siren ] >> officer down, right there. >> officer down? >> officer down. >> take cover.

streets of america in the year 2020. that doesn't help us understand. we're going to have to find out and see if the video shows any kind of reporting about who may have been involved. steak safe, keep the team safe. i'll check back with you as soon as you tell me to. other than that, be safe. >> in the face of national unrest over rational perceived injustice. we have a president whose only concern is his own political benefit. why do i say that? do you hear him? do you hear him in the midst of what happens in the streets? >> he's the one person that all should look to to make things better in situations like this.

let's bring in van jones and scott jennings, thank you for being here. this is complicated legally. i know people aren't going to like me saying that. you have to look before the event, during the event and then obviously this process after the event. why were they there. what this is about policing. the hardest part of the sell for people will be, i get it. somebody shot at them. walker says he's shot. that would give an officer a potential injury to fire back. why is it okay that a grand jury, his tool, gets to determine that it was also okay.

couple things, grand jury's in kentucky at least, are independent bodies, they don't work for the attorney general. they get in the room, grand juries are independent bodies, they make their own decisions. the point you made about who shot the police officer is not in question, the ballistics were clear. it was a 9 millimeter bullet. >> that is not my understanding of the evidence. you haven't seen it, i haven't seen it. >> i think it's important that you get this right, because the attorney general talked about this today, and the ballistics and the bullet are not in question. >> but they are. hold on, scott, scott, scott. >> that's the crux of the issue. >> no, it's not. it's not even close. you ask the people on the streets, ask breonna's family, it's not the crux of the issue, you haven't seen the ballistics, i haven't seen the ballistics, okay?

walker's attorney has seen the ballistics, he says they are unclear. i know what the prosecutor said, you say a grand jury is an independent body, i hope it's always an independent body. a prosecutor never gets to design a finding in a grand jury. was there defense council in the room? does anybody else present evidence? does anyone take the stand that the prosecutor doesn't want? no, hence the expression, you can indict a ham sandwich. we know it's an independent body. for him to decide through a grand jury, there's no reason to go to a grand jury, they are justified. that not only should they have returned fire, they were being fired upon, but it's okay that they shot and killed an innocent third party that usually goes to the julie. it certainly would not as a

police officer. >> i don't hear van. >> can you hear me? >> this is a case of bad policy, bad policing and bad prosecution, it's a complete trifecta, complete disaster, the policy of no knock in the first place, it's led to so many innocent people being killed. the policy is terrible, then the policing, they sprayed this place with bullets, they were returning fire, they had other responsibilities, including, once she is shot, it's 20 minutes before she's given any attention at all. remember the eight minutes with george floyd? can you imagine 20? and then the police are engaging in cover-up behavior, that's criminal and that's not prosecuted. you have so much wrongdoing, the policy is terrible, the policing

is terrible, and the prosecutor can come in and find a way forward here and instead basically just punts. the thing we're not talking about enough. if someone kicked in your door tonight and said nothing, and they had guns, you have a right to defend yourself unless you're black. everybody can stand their ground unless you're black. everybody has a second amendment right unless you're black. if you're black and you defend yourself, you're on trial, your girlfriend's dead. if you wonder why people are upset, this is why. violence from the left is completely unacceptable, we don't want lawlessness in the police department, from right wing vigilantes, we don't want lawlessness from the left either. we have too much lawlessness, too much violence, too many people getting shot, we need to calm this thing down, and we need leadership from the top. this was a disaster today.

absolute catastrophe. >> one point to the record then scott to you. it is in dispute whether or not it was executed as a no knock warrant. they did have a witness. he called it uncontroverted testimony, i don't know that that's accurate either, why? they had a witness that said he heard them knock and say, it was the police. now, others interviewed did not hear anything. walker said he did not hear anything. is that influential? it should be. the person that has the most to lose in all this is walker. he's the one who shot back, he may have hit a cop. he's the one that certainly by shooting, now bears at least some type of guilt about what happened to his girlfriend. for him, to say what he heard and didn't hear, you have to take it under advisement. with that being unclear on the record. what's your take on how this is being perceived. >> well, look, i agree with van

and many people who have expressed this today, this is a tragedy, a life was lost, she should not have been killed. she should not have been shot. i think there are significant questions about the warrant and how it was served and procured, they're now being looked at by the civil rights division at the fbi and they need to look at it. if somebody comes to your house in the middle of the night and it's unclear who it is, you have reason to believe they're hostile, you can see how walker was put in an extremely terrible position here. i agree with many of the things van said, and so i -- the hurt, the anguish that this entire community has felt is real. the law here was -- and the truth of the investigation was laid out by the attorney general today on the state matter. i think the fbi civil rights division matter is ongoing. i think some of the topics you raised about the warrants is where it's going to get sorted out. >> i know you have contact the

down there, if you can get my eyes on the ballistics, i'm happy to clarify it. the last thing i want is doubt on material facts. i'm going on what walker has said on his attorney, and his attorney has observed through these documents. i have no reason to believe he's lying. now we get to the macro issue here, why isn't the president saying what you guys are saying. we have one leader in these situations. he's only given voice to these situations to warn white people of more of this happening unless he stays president are you okay with that? >> no, i'm not. i agree with van, anybody in a position of leadership, in the president to an attorney general to a governor, to a mayor, anybody in any city or jurisdiction has the responsibility to say the things that we want them to say, which is to calm the nation.

to calm their jurisdiction, to say violence should not beget other violence. to say when someone dies it is a tragedy, no matter how the investigation turns out. no matter what the truth of it is it's a tragedy. to understand, to empathize, to reflect the emotions of our communities and our nations. when he doesn't do that, it's a failure. he has confidence in the attorney general of kentucky, and he gave voice to that today. there are two things you have to do, you can support that, and that's good. you have to reflect and internalize the hurt of the american people and the people of louisville and other cities on this, and he needs to do it. >> why doesn't he then? >> look, i don't know why he doesn't. he really needs to. especially on this one. i don't think you people understand, black women across this country, they gravitate to this case, because too often

frankly the whole system comes down on women because of their boyfriends. how many women are serving time because their boyfriend was doing something, their boyfriend had something in their car. there's a whole unspoken amount of pain about how black women get treated worse in the system than almost anybody else. maybe actually more than anybody else, and there's no justice. most of our movements around criminal justice are about the brothers, and the brothers this, and the women are left out, they're abused by the system, and left out by the movement. black women across the country said not this time. not this time. we're not going to let this happen any more. and the nba came and this became a cause celeb, and black women fighting for their humanity through the cause of this case, and then for this outcome to be people being spat in the face by the prosecutor, there is something that can be charged here, i guarantee it. they throw the book at kids in the neighborhood over nothing. you mean all these bullets

fired, no help for this woman, and no charges? having anything to do with her body, with her humanity is completely outrageous, and so on this one, he needs to speak. because as much as -- you can talk about everything else, an innocent black woman shot down in her own house with no recourse, no justice, in the criminal justice system, that should offend everybody in the country. especially given the amount of passion that's been shown and the tenacity that's been shown by black women. >> van, scott, thank you very much. we're going to take a break, then we're going to bring in key components here, okay? the lawyer for bre on in a taylor's family, how do they process this. and the family i was talking about before, mr. walker's attorney has had access to some parts of the police file. we have someone who understands forensics in this situation, and can speak to what matters here in terms of fact, law and

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as we get more information, we will give it to you. this is not what the taylor familiar li wanted, they have been calling for manslaughter charges at a minimum. we have what the family wants, the political overtones of this, and then we have the facts of the case, and we can bring them all together. we have lenita baker. thank you for being with us. and steven romines. an attorney to kenneth walker,

key individual in the case, why? he was breonna taylor's boyfriend, he was the one that got worried when they broke in, he fired. okay? this is perfect for us to understand. first, council baker, what is the family's reaction to this? do they understand what a black attorney general said made sense in this case? >> they understand it, but it does not make sense. and unfortunately, i could not help make sense of it, because the logic, the attorney general's logic does not make legal sense. you can't say that brett won't endanger three neighbors, but that same reckless behavior does not apply to breonna, you can't say he endangered but that reckless behavior does not apply to the black neighbors upstairs. it was also disappointing that

daniel cameron dn the have the courage to tell her that the three counts of won ton endangerment had nothing to do with the death of breonna, but with those neighbors. they're upset justifiably, and we're upset. and outraged at the decision that was made today. we question whether any charges against breonna taylor were presented to the grand jury today. >> council, a couple questions, what lenita baker is saying, is the attorney general under any type of duty to tell you what he presented? is the grand jury allowed to be interviewed afterwards to find out what they heard or didn't hear. >> they are allowed to be interest viewed. he is under no obligation to tell us. we are subpoenaing the grand jury transcript. let's see what they presented. they did not present any charges on any other homicide charges on

the other cops. >> under the law -- >> it's because -- and here's the other thing about it, chris. >> go ahead. if he won tonally endangered neighbors, he has to wontonally endanger breonna taylor. therefore, they had to ignore the fact that he endangered her as well by recklessly firing into her apartment. >> that's my question. hold on, one point at a time. the push back point is, no, no, no. when they got fired upon it created different circumstances in taylor's apartment than the other ones, so while it was reckless to fire into any other apartment, because they received fire, it was reason will to fire back, when breonna taylor was hit, it was an unintended consequence. >> that's false. you are not allowed to rely on a justification of self-defense when you recklessly kill a third

party. you must identify the person using imminent deadly force against you, and you are permitted to use deadly force against them. >> is it different for police? >> you are not permitted. >> no, you are not -- >> somehow we have created this heightened level of self-defense that police get that ordinary citizens do not. that's not the case. self-defense laws in kentucky, apply to everyone. police -- >> exactly. >> and citizens alike, and it does not apply when you recklessly kill a third party who did not imminently put your life in danger. >> lenita i'm coming back to you, one more fact question for you. i was having a discussion in the segment before, you may have heard, you may not have. where one of the guests said, well, the ag was clear, the ballistics are clear. mattingly was shot by walker, have you examined any documents and can you comment on that, sir? >> i have the ballistics from the kentucky state police. and they indicate that they

could not determine that mattingly was shot by walker's gun. and that inconclusive determination that attorney general cameron relied on to clear brett from killing breonna taylor. he used it to implicate kenny walker. the ballistics do not show that kenny walker's weapon fired that, and what he also said was, we know that walker fired a 9 millimeter and the police used 40 caliber. according to lmpd's records, brett fired a nine millimeter. everything i said today that contradicts attorney general. release the entire file we'll see who's telling the truth. if scott jennings knows him, call him up tonight.

>> i offered the same, i said, you have contacts down there, it's not for me to disclose what he's doing and what he isn't doing. but put it out there, i'm happy too put a new set of eyes, i'll put it on tv so you can tell it yourself. counselor baker, now, what happens? people are frustrated. you put it perfectly, they understand what they're being told. they're not stupid, but it doesn't make sense to them under the law if they understand it or just common sense. now they take to the streets and people are angry, and they feel humiliated and they feel that this case counts on its own but also as proxy for so many others and they wan the to act out. how does the taylor family process its own grief and tell everyone else to be calm. >> i don't think it's fair to ask the taylor family to do that, they're still dealing with this, they've not given any statements, but what i would say

is, we need the protesters to stay safe so they can use their voices at the ballot box. this is where it shows, elections are important, people will put in positions of prosecutors are very important because we need people who are not just going to allow police to fire blindly. we talk about kenny walker firing one shot. daniel cameron's own testimony today counted 32 rounds fired into breonna taylor's apartment and neighboring apartment. how do you justify that? we need people to stay safe, so we can continue to exercise our voice, continue to protest, we have to turn that protest into power and change the laws. >> to pick up one point of the counselor, i'll let you go, i know you have a long way to go. it is very unusual for a prosecutor to determine that level of justification in a grand jury. whether or not it was probable cause, which is the grand jury

standard that a crime was committed is a pretty low bar. hence the statement, can you indict a ham sandwich. it would go to a jury if it didn't involve cops. >> that's exactly right. >> counselors, we will talk again, i want to be fair, i want to understand the facts. i don't want you to violate any discovery rules, anything i can be given, i will willingly process it and always protect my sources. thank you. now you have an idea of the law, it's frustrating. i don't want the taylor family to have to take on the mantle of leadership and all their pain, that's where we're left. and yes i do start with the president. this is a national problem, there's nothing special about kentucky, anybody can fall prey to this dynamic. let's look more into the intricacies of why a grand jury

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breonna taylor, mr. attorney general you're welcome to come on the show, the governor, welcome to come on the show. please release the entire file. this is all about people having clarity and clarity gives confidence. let us see what the ballistics show. let us see what the interviews show and how many you did. is it true that the person, the witness who told you he heard the police announce. so we hear that they knocked, but who was knocking? did they announce? is it true? that the person you interviewed who went to the grand jury and

said they said police, said no the first time you asked them about it? please release the information. the more that is out there, the more people can get their mind around even something they don't like as an outcome. fairness under law does not guarantee outcomes. now, tonight we're monitoring the fallout, one police officer shot and wounded this evening, unacceptable. it's against everything we're supposed to be about as a society. the more we learn about their condition and who did it, the more i will tell you. we're also working to understand -- the case goes nowhere from here after this, criminally, that's it. the grand jury's saying there's nothing to indict that's that. let's bring on joey jackson, and laura coats. you heard me ask for the file to come out. if i seem like i'm too micro on this, that's fine. my head is in the weeds, because

i'm upset i got told one thing about the ballistics from one person who said they knew about it, and another thing from somebody who is reading it off a piece of paper. this should not be difficult to determine, right? in a ballistics report about whether or not they believe they know where the bullet came from that hit officer mattingly, true? >> it should not be difficult to assess, particularly given they have all the information, they've had 190 plus days to figure it out? and you have an officer who has fired months ago, the officer who is now charged, the police chief was able to come to some conclusion about the case at that point in time. all these months later, we're still finding out. imagine the family of breonna taylor who has been told that as an innocent bystander who happens to have been converted into collateral damage, how kalas is that -- it doesn't really matter, as long as it justified the use of force by

the officers. they told the grand jury arguments in favor of the person. they're using reasonable amount of force or the other. all we know right now, is that the officers who posed a threat to life has been charged, but those who took a life had walked away scott free. that's hard to reconcile for even the greatest minds. >> people will say, joey, who cares? walker fired and then they were justified, they had to fire back. >> at what point does force become so excessive that goes into the bounds of criminality. let's back this up, when you look at a grand jury, everyone should be clear on the standards. we're not talking about a body that convenes, we're talking about a body that votes and they have to by majority make a conclusion. we're also talking about a body that's not talking about proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

we're talking about whether there's reasonable cost to believe a crime was committed. and the subjects before the grand jury committed it. in addition what you just said before about a grand jury indicting a ham sandwich. if that's the case, what happened here? i'll tell you what happened, grand juries are controlled by the prosecutor, and grand jurors generally reach outcomes that prosecutors advance upon them, they talk to them and recommend and advise. what i'd like to determine here, what specifically was put before them, what information did they have? they talk about the issue of the conflict, did the police identify themselves. you heard the attorney general say that one did. what about the other 12 who said they did not. those people presented before the grand jury or were they not presented. was selective information given to the grand jury or was it not? we could debate night and day, was the force excessive, was 32 shots, was it proportionate -- was there an immediacy of the

threat. where did the ballistics come from. these are determinations that jurors make every day in this country. if we allow a prosecutor to present it to a grand jury and they get an indictment, you could have a jury in a jury room rendering verdicts, having these arguments, but when you short circuit the process, it goes to the issue of accountability and a lack of transparency with regard to you calling for every record to be shown that's what upsets people so much, because the system does not work for everyone. >> the push back on that is, this wasn't a buddy of the cops, this was an ag, happened to be a black ag. he's working on the part of people to bring a case. that's everything you supposedly wanted as a concern citizen here. it wasn't a local prosecutor who may be too close to the police, it's the ag, a black guy, why isn't that enough? the standard objectivity is neither distance from the actual

occurrence or the race of the person who is assessing and evaluating. it's about somebody who has approached if in a merry tore yous fashion. they're receiving the information and presenting in a way they would if it was a civilian involved shooting who pulled the trigger and left somebody dead. the idea that his race or he's a specially assigned prosecutor does not have much weight if there is evidence to suggest that he did not or is a part of the team, did not look at the data without giving a benefit of the doubt to the police officers, as you know, the supreme court case law unfortunately is quite clear on giving a very broad and over inclusive benefit of the doubt that's a cart blanche when there's a reasonable stand pard that it has to be viewed from the eyes of an officer, not somebody like you and i. as long as that persists, the objectivity of every prosecutor examining these cases will always be questionable. >> this determination by the

grand jury and the reckoning by the attorney general starts to bring into sharp focus, the decision of that municipality to settle the wrongful death civil claim for breonna taylor. which was an historic mark in terms of how much money was given to a black female victim before the criminal matter was finished. that's very unusual. you usually wait for the criminal case, and then do the civil liability. didn't happen here. and it makes you wonder why, given what just happened. joey jackson, laura coates, thank you both. we're going to stay on this breaking story. the police say they're going to hold a press conference. we're hoping it sheds some light on what may happen to an officer tonight. there are reports that an officer was shot in kentucky surrounding the events in louisville. as soon as i get the information, i'll bring it to you.

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we're waiting on the police in as soon as it comes we will give it to you. rite now i want to bring in something important not getting enough attention. our next guest was mentioned by dr. fauci. he raised concerns about long haul syndrome. we have been talking about this. people who have short cases that end and resolve quickly they're not out of the woods. we're learning about weird symptoms that sometimes kill people. plague people for weeks and months. they don't know anything about. listen to dr. fauci. >> i bring to your attention the fact a number of individuals who virally have recovered. and symptomology that doesn't

appear to be the virus. referred to as long haulers. fatigue, fever and involvement of the neurological system as well as cog native ab normalities. such as inability to concentrate. these are things that tell us we must be humble and do not completely understand the nature of the illness. >> completely understand. they don't know anything. i can't tell you how many experts and people who with fauci call me to talk about what i'm experiencing. i'm on the mild side. let's bring in doctor william lee. who studies the long term impacts of covid-19. we have been going on this journey together. he's joined by a long hauler waiting for her coverage. now we have a conflation. a long hauler, i want her to tell you what she's dealing with. and she would have a preexisting condition. what if this case in november finds the aca has been to be

completely done. trump will fix it by executive order. he can't. he can't cover preexisting conditions by executive orders. what happens if she has to pay for it. let's start with you. thank you for joining me. you look great for someone struggling. tell the audience what you're dealing with and your concern. >> i'm sorry you're still going through it as well. i appreciate you having me. and being such an advocate for this long haulers. it was certainly amazing to hear dr. fauci today as i'm sure you felt the same way. so today is actually day 160 for me. i started to feel ill april 17. and i was feeling flu like and i had severe gastro issues.

since then i'm running the gamut of everything. i have brain fog. hearing loss. severe nausea. every gastro symptom you can imagine. i have heart pal paation. neu i have extreme exhaustion. weight loss. severe weight loss. >> you had none of these before is this. >> i was very healthy. i'm 46 years old. i have a fantastic diet. i had a successful career. singing career. on the side of my day job. no preexisting conditions. i have never had a problem. i have always had health insurance through my job. it's never been an issue. so, no, this is completely new to me. i have never had to deal with anything like this before in my

life. >> dr. lee, first of all what solace can you give her in terms of -- i see you nodding your head. i know you have heard this before. >> that's the amazing thing. thank you for appearing and telling your story. this is a lung condition what we thought. now it affects the whole body and weeks to months later. so the solace is that number one, thanks to people like her and her fellow advocates and you, chris. doctors are finally starting to recognize that this exists. dr. fauci made it absolutely clear today in the statement. so knowledge is the first step to finding an effective treatment. here's the dilemma. if long haulers didn't exist before covid-19 and now it exists. is that preexisting condition? will this add to the burden of healthcare and make it difficult for people to get insurance?

that's a big problem facing everyone ahead. >> i want you to know something i hope you know already. don't listen to the president when he says it affects nobody. that's deeply insulting. you get he's saying it because he's trying to mitigate it. i have heard from so many people who say how demoralizing it was. and humiliating and you feel like you suffered in silence already. let alone he doesn't care. it's not about him. it's about people come together and the system in the society working to help one another and to help the people who need it. leave the politics out of it it won't be the solution. not on his end. i wish you the best. stay in touch with me about what's going on. if there's an update necessary i'll bring you back. thank you for providing the proper context. >> thank you. >> we have to focus on what matters. keep our eye on different balls

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i got to pass the baton to the star. "cnn tonight" continues. we are monitoring coverage in louisville. police are about to have a presser. don will go to it. >> another night of unrest in america. after so many nights both covered this summer. i will get straight to it. this is breaking news tonight. protests in cities around the country demanding justice for breonna taylor. i want to get to jason carol. in louisville. where curfew went into effect an hour ago and police are awaiting a press conference. take it away. one police officer, what happened? >> we are awaiting for more information about that officer that has been shot. any moment now we're waiting to hear from police chief robert sloeder. expected to give details about what happened. let me review and get to the point where we can really explain how we got to the point er