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more dangerous and corrupt president than trump. he's harming our basic values, giving rise to hate, and he's selling out america to big corporations. i'm working to protect immigrants, women, communities of color, and lgbtq people. and i'm making corporations like pg&e and insurance companies play by our rules. we need experienced leadership to wipe away trump's stain on america for good.
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united states president is incessantly undermined faith in america's institutions and ideals for his personal benefit. he's consistently expressed aeration for autocrats but now he's threatening to become one. >> will you commit to a peaceful transfer of power after the election? >> you know i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and they're a disaster. >> i understand that but people are rioting. do you commit to a peaceful
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transfer of power? >> there will be a continuation. >> by refusing a peaceful transfer of power, he's testing the boundaries of democracy and encouraging violence. he's signaling to his supporters, if joe biden wins, it can't possibly be legitimate because, as he puts it, it's rigged. trump has praised violence against journalists. they were asking able bodied people to form election squads, trump has dismissed the fact that russians are using this to attack joe biden. trump is claiming he can override the fda, fuelling new fears this is being politicized to get re-elected. he gets an a-plus for the
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failing coronavirus response in the same week we lost our 200,000th american the disease. that is just this week with less than six weeks until election day. and the fbi warned they want spread disinformation on the election. and pushing back against the president's claims on mail-in voting, lewis dejoy saying he's incorrect in saying the post office won't be able to handle the surge in mail-in ballots. wray said this. >> is voting by mail secure? >> well, senator, i think what i would say is this. we take all election-related threats seriously, whether it's voter fraud, suppression, in person, by mail, and our role is to investigate the threat actors.
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now, we have not seen historically a major fraud in election. whether by mail or otherwise. >> the trump campaign and others are already involved in mail-in voting on a state level. kristen holmes is following nis for us. what can you tell us about this side of the story? >> reporter: this has been a big part of the republican strategy, this legal side. you have democrats and republicans, who have been tied up in the courts, really over voter access restriction. they say because of the pandemic, they want to give people more opportunity to vote. republicans say they want to protect the voters laws already in place. but those are just on the campaign level. you have so many more things going on, on the legal side of things. for instance, in wisconsin,
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supporting a green-party candidate on the ballot, when it came down to that race. a republican-led legislature where they cannot, will not allow votes to be counted ahead of election day. this is a huge deal, when it comes to absentee ballots because fl are going to be so many of them and it is a swing state. while we go through this long list of court cases, many in swing states, we haven't even talked about the planning after the election. there is already so much in place for both campaigns, really but republican officials have told me they believe this election is going to be delayed, held up in the courts and they are ready for that. at one point, i had an official telling me there were going to be lawyers in polling places, particularly in areas in swing states where large numbers of ballots were going to be counted. the reason being they would be
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there to watch and be reported to so they could file litigation almost immediately in real time. so, they are preparing for a fight. they do believe this is going to end up in the court system. >> thank you. we'll be watching. and the cdc projecting as many as 226,000 coronavirus deaths in this country by october 17th. this as the head nof fda chose not to comment about president trump's threat to override his regulators. several sources say they're weighing proposals, like adding an extra 60 days to process monitoring trials. that would push a vaccine beyond election day and dash the president's political timeline, for one. now, in response, the president is accusing his own government of playing politics through proposed stricter guidelines. >> that has to be approved by
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the white house. we may or may not have to approve it. sounds like a political move. >> sounds extremely political. why would they do this when we come back with those great results? why would we be delaying it? we're going to take a look at it. >> i want to bring in dr. peter hotez, you're involved in a vaccine trial at your university, baylor college of medicine. can you explain this to us and do you know? because i know you're involved in the race to the vaccine. but can the white house override the fda and short circuit the approval process? >> the answer is i'm not sure. i'm told yes. hhs, department of health and human services has the ability to override the fda. i think it would be a catastrophic disaster, if they did that. we worked very hard to put in place all of the pieces of
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operation warp speed. it's a very good program. i was on the nih active vaccine working group that helped put pieces of this foorgt. together. it is a very robust program. they're designed to maximize the likelihood we'll have a vaccine effective and safe. the integrity of the trials is high. we've had a lot of discussions. i'm unhappy with communications around the program, but the scientific integrity is in tact. that's a fact. so, when you start hearing the president potentially say he's going to undermine it or have secretary azar override the fda, that scares me quite a bit. and the american people would never accept him. they trust the scientists. we have a robust system in place of regulatory science. and that's what the american people want to see.
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they've seen the president already do things like this with hydroxychloroquine and what a disaster that was. i think it would backfire, but hopefully the scientific community, we can tow the line on this one. >> look, we know on the virus, that it does mutate. think about every couple weeks. correct me if i'm wrong on that. we know it's mutating. so, what does that mean? and does it make it harder to develop immunity to one strain and not another? >> rna viruses mutate. that's a known fact. soy far the accumulation limitations does not seem to have translated into changes in terms of how sick the virus makes you or how transmiscible it is. there is a recent report now that one of the substitutions, one of the changes due to mutations and part of the spike
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protein may cause the virus to be more transmissable. so, for instance in texas, fl was an increase in the amount of virus that had one particular mutation. but disagreement on whether that's actually translating into how contagious it is or whether it's effecting the severity of illness. bottom line is viruses do mutate. and this one does too and it's been useful to help determine the lineage of the virus. for instance, we know the virus that came to the united states, into new york city that caused the terrible epidemic in new york city came in from europe. so, viruses but whether that translates to how sick it makes you and transmissability, we're still working that out. >> and next, i'll be asking
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senator tammy duckworth a decorated veteran, what she makes of president trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. now there are calls to release the grand jury transcript. and the president booed on the stepped of the supreme court as he went to pay respects to the late justice ginsburg. that linr try febreze small spaces. just press firmly and it continuously eliminates odors in the air and on soft surfaces. for 45 days. keeping your oysters growing while keeping your business growing has you swamped. (♪ ) you need to hire i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base
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>> that was white house press secretary moments ago, attempting to clarify after the president was refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he were to lose in november. i'm joined by democratic senator, tammy duckworth. i wonder, having listened to that where, she was saying a free and fair election. i think the question might be is whatever the outcome, will trump consider it free and fair? what are your concerns as we hear the white house press secretary clarifying but leaving questions out there? >> i'm appalled president trump would say what he has said. this is the kind of stuff that authoritarian regimes do. they sew confusion and distrust in the democratic process and they don't participate in peacefully handling over power when they lose. they don't accept any results, except when they win. remember saddam hussein used to peck their fingers and make them
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bleed for him literally. it's shameful the president would speak the way he did. which means we all have to work that much harder to get our mail-in ballots turned in and vote in the polls. whichever works best for you. >> what power does congress have to insure a peaceful transfer of power if trump loses the election? >> well, let's cross that bridge when we get to it. what we need to do right now is focus on the issues at hand. he is doing this, and the things he is saying is to distract the american people from the fact that he is trying to ram through a new supreme court nominee when the majority of the american people believe and feel that the winner of the presidential election should be the one who picks the next supreme court nominee. frrbls a and if they can seat this justice, he or she will be able to influence the outcome of the election, if it does go to the supreme court.
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>> it seems clear whatever the outcome of the election and whenever we get that, there's going to be a large chunk of the country that does not accept the validity of the outcome. >> that's a real concern. we need come together as an american people and i spent way to -- i spent 23 years nin military. it's our commander and chief trying to tear down our institutions. this has taken mail sorting machines off line and tried to cut off the postal service at the knees so they can't process our mail-in ballots as well. if you want to mail in your ballots, mail them in but we will win overwhelmingly in november. >> if the president does not cooperate with a peaceful transition of power, what does that signal to you about the state of our democracy? >> that president trump is a flawed president. he's the one, right?
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he is the one person who is saying this. he is the one person fomenting the distrust in our system. we need cut this cancer out of our democracy and let's take to the polls and let the american people decide. >> if was a written statement but mitch mcconnell said there will be an orderly transition of power. there always has been one. there are other republicans, senator mitt romney, who have come out and said this as well. i wonder, when you look -- of course they're not using the language the democrats are, but they did come out and say something, that there is going to be this orderly transition. what do you expect though from them if it comes to the point where they may have to weigh in if trump refuses? >> put the needs of the nation and the will of the american
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people above their own personal ambitions. he's always put his own personal gain above that of the american people. and i would ask my republican colleagues, not just one or two but all of them to step forward and say it is wrong. it is wrong for this president to try to sew discord and distrust in our electoral process. it is wrong for him to say he won't accept the outcome of the election. not just one or two. >> i want to turn to the plitization of the coronavirus. the president said he has the power to short circuit infda's approval process. and there are a majority of americans hesitant about taking a vaccine he has politicized. would you take a vaccine if it is available to take, if it's on the market? >> if the vaccine was properly researched and if it was properly developed. according to all existing protocols that we have for
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developing vaccines, then of course i would take it. let me make it clear. the vaccine alone is not going to be able to combat coronavirus. what we need first is widespread and low cost or free testing and contact tracing. the vaccine, we know and scientists have told us, the vaccine alone can't solve this problem and not going to make coronavirus magically disappear, the way this president wished it would. he's the one who botched the pandemic. we have over 200,000 dead. over 6 million have tested pausetive. we need testing, contract tracing and then we can start to open our economy. all these things this president has failed to do. >> a former senior military advisor to the president has endorsed biden for president and he's joining 500 other officials and national security experts in that. how significant is that to you and do you think it signals
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anything to the rank and file? because the president has been very clear about trying to draw a wedge between leadership and the rank and file. >> the president has tried to do that but because he has politicized the military, used them against peaceful demonstrators out exercising the first amendment right in d.c., he has lost the support of the military. military times did a report showing if the election were now, over 50% of currently serving military men and women would not vote for donald trump. it's rank and file as well. they are disappointed in him. they don't care for being called losers and suckers. and he's shown to not carry any of the values the military values so much. discipline, honor, integ reitary, loyalty, courage. none of these are practiced by donald trump. >> the president went to pay his
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respects to supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg this morning and he was booed. let's listen to this. what is your reaction to that? >> it's sad that the democracy has come to this. that the president of the united states would so wrongly treated the american people that he would be booed. it's bad for our democracy. but it is fitting for this president. he has earned those boos. he's earned those jeers and he's going to earn losing the election on november 3rd. >> do you think there's any disrespect there? it's sort of jarring to hear the boos while you're looking at the late justice lying in state. is it disrespectful to her, as you see it?
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>> i don't think it's disrespectful to her but it is very sad. sad that our democracy, that she upheld for all those decades of service, that we're at this point because of one, one has gotten us to this point. he's been aided and abetted by our republican allies and call ekes in the senate and in the house. and it makes me deeply disappointed that we're here now, which is why, more than ever, we must elect joe biden to be president to restore the dignity and values to the white house that the american people embrace. >> senator duckworth, it's good to see you. thanks for being on. >> thank you. the governor of kentucky joining calls to make the grand jury transcript public as protests are erupting across incountry. and the governor of missouri, who has refused to wear masks in public, is
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positive for covid and so is his wife.
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louisville erupting in anger and grief over a grand jury's decision not to charge any officers directly with her killing. individuals were arrested firing fiery protests in the city.
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ca calls are growing to release the grand jury transcript. >> well, the challenge here is that the facts and the evidence have not been shared with the public. i trust the people of kentucky with the truth, that they need to be able to see the truth, read the evidence, look over what grand jury may have seen or the investigators or attorney general looked at. so, i've asked the attorney general, at this point, given that they've announced they're not pursuing charges, at least in one direction, to post it all online. it's been done in other places and let people read if and process it and then to be able to ask the tough questions that we, as elected officials, have to be able to answer but then we don't have that vacuum, the vacuum where there is a lack of information and our frustrations and emotions can fill it up. everybody deserves the fact and
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to see the evidence themselves. >> detective, the officer fired over the shooting that was at bre breonau tilar -- charges were related to the shots that went 92 a neighboring apartment, not taylor's. and a states's attorney who famously filed charges against officers involved in the arrest of freddy grey. when you filed charges against the baltimore officers, you didn't wait for a grand jury. you moved very quickly. what questions do you have about how things have been conducted in louisville as far as what the grand jury decided and how the attorney general has proceeded. >> so, the one thing i can say -- thank you for having me. is brianna taylor is yet another example of what injustice looks
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like for black people in this country. we have two systems for black and white america. and time and time again it's draining, exhausting but we see how it invokes itself in different ways. so, you have an innocent 27-year-old aspiring nurse shot by police numerous times and killed in her apartment after getting out of bed. what i've said numerous times on this show and others is you can never underestimate the power of the local prosecutor. the local prosecutors who apply one standard of justice, recognizing that when you are going to prosecute police, it comes with being mocked, ridiculed, harassed, potentially sued. so yorks vuto have a level of curagesness to do it. what we can't lose sight of is the fact that the prosecutor
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controls what happens in a grand jury. so, when we look at what you've already identified the police being found, that they have committed no illegality, other than the bullets that were missed and endangered neighbors but not those that actually lodged and killed brianna taylor, it becomes problematic. >> and it is up to the a.g to present evidence and present the grand jury with what they considder, right? so, did he present them with counts to consider that had to do with the other apartment? did he present them with counts that hahted to the do with bria taylor's death and the shots that she suffered and the one that took her life. what questions do you have about that in terms of what the attorney general offered? >> and you're absolutely right.
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you hit the nail on the head. the grand jury [ inaudible ] >> all roik. let's try to reestablish that, if we can. do we have a shot of this? we definitely want to hear marilyn's answer to that question. next michael bloomberg is paying millions in court fines so felons have a chance to vote. president trump is saying what he's doing is a felony. i felt like... ...i was just fighting an uphill battle in my career. so when i heard about the applied digital skills courses, i'm thinking i can become more marketable. you don't need to be a computer expert
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florida's attorney general is questioning a federal investigation into bloomberg's efforts for, quote, potential violations of election laws. and the president calling it a criminal act on fox radio. >> it's totally illegal what he did. i guess it's a felony. he's actually giving money -- he's paying people to vote. he's actually saying here's money. now you vote for only democrats, right? or vote against trump. >> i'm going to bring in cnn election law analyst representing three former inmates in a federal lawsuit to get these obligations removed as a requirement for voting. is there anything illegal about bloomberg's efforts to pay outstanding debts so they can become eligible to vote? >> so, in a word, no. what mayor bloomberg is doing, along with many other folks, including lebron james, is raising funds to help these
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former felons pay off their outstanding legal costs associated with their convictions because florida says they have to do that to become eligible to vote. nobody is being paid to vote, no one is being paid to register. all that mayor bloomberg is doing is enabling these people to become eligible to register and vote if they choose to do so. >> what kinds of fines are they facing? what are the numbers the former inmates are facing? >> it depends on the charges and when it took place. the florida criminal justice system imposes hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in mandatory court costs and fees on every criminal defendant, regardless of what crime and their level of culpability of that crime. and that's on top of whatever fines and restitution imposes as part of their sentence. it can cases up 10s, if not hun
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thousands of dollars. and for most of these folks, that's just an insurmountable financial cost. they still owe to the state. nobody is saying they shouldn't have to pay but for those unable to pay and whose right to vote is being conditioned on their payment of these fines, it really is preventing them from accessing the ballot just because they can't afford it. >> how are you anticipating that the fbi and florida's department of law enforcement may respond to the attorney general's request for a bloomberg investigation? >> i don't know that i can predict what they'll do. as of yesterday afternoon, when that release went out from the florida attorney general's office, they havent received a copy. what that represents an attempt, consistent with the government to intimidate voters and donors out of participating in the democratic process.
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let's not forget that florida has spent the better part of a a year telling federal court that these legal debts are criminal penalties. they have nothing to do with voting. as soon as someone turns around and offers to pay them, then it's vote and florida can't have it both ways. either charging people to vote or not and there's nothing wrong with mayor bloomberg or anyone else helping people pay off their outstanding costs so they can become eligible voters. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. moments ago dr. anthony fauci responded to the president's suggestion he may override the timeline in approving a vaccine. you'll hear his interview next. i didn't realize how special
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special coverage tuesday, 7:00 eastern. >> the president has said he will override the approval process for a vaccine. moments ago dr. sanjay gupta, asking the nation's leading disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, all about this. >> the fda says two months, which seems reasonable. but the president, as i learned just yesterday, has the authority to not necessarily approve those particular guidelines. that seems like a real injection
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of politics into this process. is it not? >> the issue is that the scientists and the fda have put this frgt as what they're proposel for the criteria. under normal circumstances, that decision is theirs, the secretary approves it and that's it. something that comes from without, that is not scientific consideration would be troublesome. i have to tell you. remember there is some degree of flexibility. the 60-day proposal that they put forth was based on what you just said accurately, that modeling most of the issues you're worried about are going to occur in that period of time. the thing that could modify that and modify it within the scientific realm of being scientifically justifiable is that the vaccine is so
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overwhelmingly effective that you would say the risk benefit of having adverse events override the benefit of getting a 98% effective vaccine earlier rather than waiting 60 days, that's something that even we scientists would say, you know, we should take a look at that. you might want to shorten that. but it get rid of completely any further waiting for safety, i think most scientists would say no, you really got to be careful. >> cnn senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, is joining us now. put this in put this isn't perspective. >> let's talk about this. what sanjay and dr. fauci were talking about, a proposal we're expecting to hear from the fda, saying to those making vaccines even if you have data shows your
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vaccine works we want you to hold off for two months, because in that two-month time, more people will be enrolled in your study and get the first shot and second shot and we can see if there are any safety concerns. even if it's looking effective, we want you to wait two months to make sure that it is safe. when i heard dr. fauci saying to sanjay just now, basically, he's in support of that, thinks it a good idea with one caveat. he says, say early data shows a fantastic vaccine. 98% effective. in that case, do you want to wait two months? two more months of people dieing from covid. do you want to wait those two months? that that's a legitimate question. however, the chances that there is going to be a vaccine, study data shows it's 98% effective, that that's going to come out in the next month or two is very, very small. i have yet to speak to a scientist who thinks that that is actually going to happen.
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it might be a good vaccine, but 98%, nobody is expecting anything quite that high, quite that soon. but as far as safety goes, you can't put a vaccine out there that isn't safe. i will note that the two front-runners in the vaccine race, they're vaccine platform, the technology of the vaccine, is brand new. there has never been a vaccine on the market in the united states that uses this particular type of vaccine technology. so there's concerns here. we haven't given this to millions upon millions of people. let's make sure that is really is safe. brianna? >> all right. elizabe elizabeth, thank you for that. still ahead, president trump's niece mary who just wrote a best-selling tell-all book about the president is suing the president and his siblings for fraud. first, an unintended consequence of the pandemic. more americans are growing their own food and one nonprofit in milwaukee is helping them in this week's "impact your world."
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the president is now being sued by a member of his own family. his niece mary trump wrote a best-selling book suing him and two siblining for fraud forcing her to sign a settlement agreement deprives her of tens of millions built by the president's father fred sr. fraud not the family business a way of life moments ago the white house responded saying "the only fraud committed was mary trump recording one of her relatives. she's really discredited herself." the cnn film about the life of civil rights icon john lewis is airing this weekend. the words of the late congressman are timeless. >> let us not forget that we are involved in a serious social
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revolution where it is a political project that will make it unknows march on necessary. where it's a political party making it unnecessary to march in the streets of birmingham. we are patient and wait, we must not give up. if we do not get legislation out of this congress we will march through the south, through the streets of jackson, through the streets of danbury through the streets of -- [ applause ] we will march in the spirit of love and with the spirit of dignity that we have shown here today. we must say, wake up, america, wake up, for we cannot stop and we will not be deterred. >> you can watch that
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documentary sunday night at 9:00 eastern. john lewis, good trouble. our coverage continues now with kate bolduan. >> hello everyone. i'm kate bolduan. thank you for joining us this hour pap question so easy for an american president sew answer it is rarely asked. will you dmoit a peaceful transfer of power after the election if you lose? president trump given ample opportunity to answer this correctly yesterday. instead, here's what he did. >> will you dmoit making sure that there is a peaceful transferral of power after the election? >> we're going to have to see what happens. you know that. i've been complaining strongly about the ballots and the ballots are a disaster. >> but people are rioting. will you commit to making sure there's a peaceful -- >> get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very peaceful, there won't be a transfer, frankly. they'll be a continuation. >> the election