thank you very much jessica, the news continues with chris cuomo. >> thank you, my friend. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "primetime." our president promised on his watch the carnage would end. today he doubled down on the idea that he defy the law and he may allow or cause disorder and indeed invite carnage if this election is not to his liking. >> we are going to make sure the election is honest and i am not sure it can be. i don't know if it can be with this whole situation, unsolicited ballots. they are unsolicited. >> he said the word "honest" but i don't think he knows what it means. what he's talking about with voting. we have no reason for suspicion that mail-in ballots are any less safe than any other kind of

voting. the republican controls the senate in the phase of this statement by him. this incendiary toxic statement by a president of their party. what did they do? they passed a resolution to state the obvious that the republican senators committed to the orderly and peaceful transition of power called by the constitution. that's your job. but your job is also to correct the corrosive crap coming out of trump's mouth. that's your job. that's your oath. republican senators, republican members of congress, this is a moment that'll be remembered a long time. you know your districts and states, you know they offer mail-in ballots routinely. you know you have protection and procedures that make fraud

statistically irrelevant that make it better again. often better than in person voting. literally nine ballots that we are talking about more with our first guest. they were flagged or maybe they were mishandled and had to be corrected and now the scandal? how can these republicans say nothing to defend the party of democracy? you refuse to come on our show and other shows. you pretend you didn't hear the president? you allowed the doj to be a run away partisan, trump's private investigators. know this, you are trump, too. what you ignore, you empowered. you will never erase what you

said and did during this time and what you fail to say and do. no one can miss it. you are complicit. trump put together a mission exploring his 2016 win. those voter fraud theories, that commission had to be disbanded because they found nothing. you know how rarely that happens? now he knows he can lose that's why he's concocting nonsense to fear. why is he scared? seems like today. scenes like today.

>> no adoring fans risking their health. that did not feel good i am show sure. he was visiting the casket of rbg. know this. this president is trying to set us up for trouble. not just lying about the process. a process that he did almost nothing to secure from the russian and other interference but now he wants you to think he's concerned about safety and concerns. he's concerned about nothing other than his own faith. here are the unanswered questions. is the trump campaign making most on state legislatures to steal electors and flat out ignore or bypass the popular vote if he does not like it. there is toxic talk and it is a

warning. >> let them send it in. let them go vote. >> the democrats are trying to rig this election. >> i think it is going to be a rigged election. >> he is using campaign apparatus. the question is what is it doing? is it really reaching into all these aspects of the election that we are going to talk about tonight, exhibit a in texas. trump allies created one set of rules for voters to back the president while making it tougher for everyone else. in florida, the voters say they want to expel people the rights to vote. republicans in the state legislatures said no. trump made it harder for americans who are overseas including the military to vote. now before you get to the facts that going to a poll on election day, that's be honest. depending on where you live and more and more places in this

country could be putting yourselves at risk. the necessity of the way to vote makes a way we already have more attractive voting by mail. the less turn-out the better for him. he does not want that scene at rbg's memorial. it is a reflection of the population of this country. the majority of this country. not a silent majority but a majority. he's very interested silencing. he has no proof that mail-in ballots are a problem. yet, he had his hand picked post mast general starting of the one service of u.s. postal office that so much federal judges on both coasts had to force the

post office to do more, to allow for better voting. even just requesting an application from a trump campaign office in some places means it comes around in the president's campaign problem. you know what, i am okay. i am worried of other things. if you can get a ballot at all, that's the real problem. trump and his allies are done purging voter roles once that happens. who's been throwing off wrongfully? how many requests to be rejected for technicality? we have seen republicans trying to help everybody from the green party to kanye west getting on ballots and the hoax that votes will be -- once you make a choice, there is a question of getting it mailed back in time whether it is ohio or republicans rejecting a request to use money they already have

to prepaid return post on absentee ballots. like i said you have judges ordering the usds prepaid overtime. prepare for this. trump campaign has fought against giving you options as well. >> why would you want fewer places for people to exercise? why would potus claim that speed is more important than accuracy? >> i don't want to wait three months to find out the ballots are all missing and the election does not mean anything. >> wait three months. >> fiend out the ballots missin? when did that ever happen? why did his campaign fighting to keep states from getting a jump on count. if you want it to be done in a

reasonable amount of time, why are you fighting against that? at the same time trying to make sure that any vote postmark by election day but shows up late, the usds is not getting it right. those have to be tossed out. the need for an accurate count is going to matter more than ever this year. already three key primary states, wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, the number of ballots rejected in this year's primary process is almost the same as trump's margins of victory in 2016. i wonder why? it is a big part of why many of you don't want to risk it, right? god forbid you go through the trouble of getting a ballot in an election where everybody is so passionate out there and they don't count it.

we know from states who are already doing early voting. i have to make sure it could wants but on what day? trump already tried and failed and delay election day. maybe we should wait. why don't we do it sooner? all of this is before you get to the millions of dollars his campaign has spent on standby or has money on standby to fuel an army of lawyers and on standby contest the results in any states that they think will help them or his flat out acknowledgment that this is why he's raising a lot in conservative super majority. >> it is a scam and a hoax, everybody knows that so you need

nine justices up there. it is very important. >> he's wowing his people closer to the russians than he did in 2016. remember the russians are reaching out to nobody. george papadopoulos as they called him the coffee boy. now we got this guy, trump's own treasury department called a russian beintelligence's office. the same propaganda that shows up in the president's own twitter feed. the scariest part is he seems convince rudy giuliani he's

legit. >> he's a guy that should not be respected or trusted. >> that's okay, they can see him that way. he's not. >> so our intelligence apparatus is wrong and rudy is right. no big deal. because the trump campaign does not care. they don't care they're reski recycling someone that happens to be propaganda. why didn't they care about russian 2016. that's his reality. rules are for fools. it is a motto of his life. not only the president is getting help from the russians, he's helping them hurt us, personally spreading their propaganda and saying stuff like this. >> you won't know the election

results for weeks or months or years after. maybe you will never know the election results. >> his own fbi just yesterday warned he should not say things like that because that's what our enemies want us to think about our own democracy. wrap your head around it. the fbi warning the president, mr. president, you're saying what our enemies are trying to plant in people's heads. welcome to today. a nation that has dependant on a leaders at the top that keep us safe, now must question those same leaders the most is once again left to us. we, the people, to safe guard our rights and be vigilant and speak truth to power. that's the only way we'll form a more perfect union.

that notion is no longer. it never matters more than it does right now. i want to show you something. a reminder of who we really are and what this country is supposed to be about. we are not -- the flag you should be raising is not trump's flag. this is not their country, it is our country. what we want most no matter who wins is a peaceful transfer of power if one needs to come to past. example of what we are supposed to be. george h.w. bush loses to clinton. the ugly race. a lot of you may not remember. what did he do in '92? he did not refuse to leave. bush left a beautiful letter for his successor on the day of the power transfer.

you will be our preside note. he under lined ours. your success is our country's success. i am rooting hard for you. good luck, george. that's the way a leader is supposed to act. what leaders say matters. there is actual cause for concerns when it comes to ballots in one of the most battlegrounds. this is not about hiding from the reality. we want to expose the problem. they just have to be real. here is what i want to start tonight. the issue is so called naked ballot. you didn't ask for one. the state attorney general from pennsylvania joins me now. >> good to be with you.

the context of concerns, it is not just a handful of ballots and nine ballots, i don't want to exaggerate the context. i want to exaggerate the concerns of anything which is your primary, you have 37,000 rejected mail and ballots. the trump margin of victory 2016 was about 44,000 votes. every vote in your state counts. you had so many kicked out in 2020. >> chris, i think it is important that people take a deep breath and examine the fact. two different situations. in the primary which is really the first time pennsylvania was doing vote by mail. there were certainly some issues with counties having to

process and figuring out how the pr process works. it is not controversial. here is a ballot, this is one at home is going to get in order to vote in the general election. you choose your candidate and fold it up and stick it in the secrecy envelope. that's the second envelope. the final envelope is the envelope you use to mail it back. you sign the back of it and you send it to your local county election office. why does this secrecy ballot matters? because our vote is a secret in this country. we want to make sure the voters who votes at home has their ballots be secret when it goes back. this is about educating our voters in pennsylvania and how to do this process. you raised another issues of

what happens to those seven or eight ballots. take a deep breath again. this is a matter of ballots from the primary and not from the general. i am comforted and the people of pennsylvania and across the country should be comforted in knowing that law enforcement is looking into it. we are doing our jobs together, federal, state and local partners trying to examine what the issue is. i think you will hear more from the united states attorney as to what really goes on there. the problem we have right now you alluded to this at the out set is that we are at this pitch because the leader of our country is trying to create chaos and so doubt right here in pennsylvania. there is a strategic reason for the president doing this. he's trying to make people feel

powerless. >> that's why we have to jump on the situation mr. a.j. >> these ballots are about the hold over the primaries. i did not mean to suggest the general election and thank you for making the clarification. was this a nef nefarious problem? >> this is what law enforcement is supposed to do is look in the situation and providing facts people that they can rely on and trust. the problem that we have right now is we have a president that's creating this chaos and making it hard for people to trust again. the chaos he's creating is designed to make you feel powerless. in this country, chris, when it comes to election time, people have the power, not the president. the people are the ones who gets to go to the polls, vote by mail

and determine the future's direction of our democracy. i think what's important is that we try to drown out the noise. >> that's why i had you on mr. ag, i want to be leer clear of they are looking at in your state. when the doj says investigating potential issues of mail-in ballots in pennsylvania. are they looking at ballots from the primary or the general? >> the issue of those handful of ballots are ballots from the primary according to the u.s. attorney has nothing to do with the general election. >> why are they looking at it now? >> i think that's a question that needs to be directed to the u.s. attorney or doj. >> who do you think it is since i got you here?

take a deep breath and why you think that is? >> i am not going to speculate what the u.s. attorney finds. here is what i will say broadly of the doj and the president. it is highly reckless to inject speculation and inject fear in people's minds on any investigations. i certain lily know this attorn general. but when it comes time to voting, a personal and special unique experience that every american has that they want to be able to know that they can trust this process and doj has to be apart of helping alleviate those concerns since i believe the u.s. attorney is trying to do. get to the bottom of these issues and focus on the power that the people have to choose the direction of this country by choosing its leaders. >> i am with you. pennsylvania matters.

it matters everywhere. there is a 31% chance yours will be the state that serves the tipping point of this election. extra attention and i appreciate you coming on mr. aj shapiro during this important time. thank you very much. >> good to be with you. >> be well. >> what are we learning? you got to look and press and ask some questions. it is not about panic, it is about pois a about poise, it is about persiste persistent. what are the actual facts? we got to stay on top of this. with the supreme court nomination 40 day bfs before th election, democrats are raising

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i'm joe biden and i approve this message. obama and biden and schumer and pelosi, all the democrat leaders are used to hear trump's attacks. senator harry reid, listen to this. >> they want to put on a lot of justices. these are things that are just horrible. i guess we can do that, too, right? but remember it was harry reid that makes it possible. crying chuck, you know what he does? every time you complain it was harry reid your person in charge. he had your job before.

it was harry reid who makes it possible. thank you very much harry. >> 2013, reid and other democrats voted to change long-term senate rules, eliminate the 60-vote threshold for executive branch appointee. harry reid did not create what we have today. the issue is he opened the door to it. mcconnell certainly thought so then. here to respond to the president's comment and weighing in on much more is former senator harry leader. mr. leader, welcome to "primetime," good to see you.

>> i enjoy the first part of the show and i want to say this. mail-in ballots go back to the revolutionary war, the civil war. we have been voting by mail. these are the revolutions. nothing is new. >> let's deal with where with are first. i don't know about any peaceful transfer of power. let me see how it works out because of the unsolicited mail-in ballots should never happen. i got to see what happens first. what do you think of that message? >> donald trump knows he's going to lose the election. he's behind every poll and this could be a changed election. he's going to lose big time. biden is going to be elected.

we are going to take the senate so he knows that. he's playing it and shouts. he has no chance. >> so let's take a look. i care about this too much. i know how he does it and i know what your role is. if i were more concerned about it i would be jumping on it. what happens here? we never dealt anything like this. november 3rd, we don't know positively who wins the election on the election day? all the countdoing and absentee we make predictions on the probability. what happens this is november 3rd if it is tight and we don't know anything? >> i am not here to boast about

mitch mcconnell but i thought his statement today was terrific. he said there will be a smooth transition come first of the year. i thought that's commendable. >> hold on a second. >> the guy in 2016 made a plea that it is a matter of principle and duty that we can't seat a supreme court justice because we must not impose the will of the people. you are now banking on him? >> i said i appreciate your statement. what they done have the supreme court is everything but tie their arms with judicial. he and the chairman of the committee, judicial committee which is terrible what they have done. i can't believe they are hypocrites. lindsey graham and mitch

mcconnell, we are not going to have the president choose, a president not in power choose a supreme court justice, they want to wait for the new election. they're trying to do that. they don't know what they're talking about. >> you were there. you no e tknow the history bet better -- mitch mcconnell told you at the time. you are going to regret this sooner than you think. in 2016, when that happened, did yo you regret the move you made? >> let me explain briefly. obama had been elected president and they sent out to do two things. number one, he would not be

elected. secretary of defense who by the way was a republican, they fill b filibuster everything. at seven vacancies, they would not allow us to fill them. they made it so you could not have a meeting there. obama who's in a position where he was trapped and as a result of what we did or i did, we changed the rule. this is not happening anymore. we were able to get all this, some cabinets filled and we got it taken care of and in the process we got affordable care act and most essential change in history, the dodd frank bill. that's why we did it. it was the right thing to do.

>> but what do you make of the allegation that you set the stage for this and the proof of it is mcconnell told you without saying it that this was the way going to be and now here we are, you needed a simple majority to put people on the court forever. >> what if we had done this. anyone but mcconnell would do what he's doing right now. anyway, we got done. >> you think he's going to do it anyway? >> of course. >> keep in mind what we got done by changing the rule. obama's presidency is something that written about for decades to come as a result of the good things he was able to do. we did it as a result of

changing the rules. >> do you think the democrats get into the senate, they should change the rules or expand the course or do other things to undo or create events. >> i think senator schumer has been very smart saying everything is on the table. everything should be on the table. trump can no longer be president and i think as i have indicated earlier that we'll have a really strong margin in the house, a democratic senate. biden will have to make a decision of what he wants to do. it would be up to him frankly. >> have you felt worse of the way things can go. i am talking about the nature of where we are. >> chris, i have to tell you that i am being a product, having spent 34 years in congress and even back there when i was going to law school,

i can't imagine my worse dreams, nightmares having donald trump doing anything he can to denigrate this country. that's what he's doing with this ballot situation and denigrating john mccain. john mccain, one thing the difference between obamacare knocked down by trump and not being knocked down by trump is john mccain coming to the floor. they want to get rid of obamacare, why? millions of people would not have insurance. >> what do you say to your former colleague mitch mcconnell. what's your advise for him and

your hope? >> his career is not going to be based on being a lap dog for donald trump. the republican senators are great disappointment. they should stand up to this man. none of them do. they are afraid of him. they should not be afraid. these republicans should stand up for the country. the republican senators should realize that. >> senator harry reid, mr. leader, thank you for coming on the show. it is good to have you. >> watch every night. thanks. >> harry reid, thank you. we'll be right back.

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why does the president want to pay point the judge? he believes it will help him stay in power. listen. >> it is a scam, it is a hoax, everybody knows that. you will need nine justices up there. >> it will end up in the supreme court. it is important that we have nine justices. >> ben ginsburg knows about deciding elections in the courts specifically the supreme court. thank you for joining again. >> thank you for having me,

chris. ma mail-in ballots disaster, and democrats, fraud, true? >> not so true. there is a body of evidence that's small body of evidence on fraudulent ballots over the years. it is far too thin to make the allegation and assertion that our elections are fraudulent. >> would you vote by mail-in ballot? >> yes. >> would you recommend others? >> as he's asking people to do so in florida. help me understand the legal construction here. he says it is as crap show. you can't do it unless in florida and north carolina. well, those are good governors. the republicans. do you believe this is a partisan interest? >> no. i spent a lot of times over the years with state and local

elections and even if the person is somehow elected as a partisan in some states, nonetheless, they take it seriously of the duty of a fair elect. >> you think there is as bona fide good faith for the president, or do you think this is a political malice move as it smells. >> part of what he's saying about a universal ballot which nevada and new jersey just put in place this year as soon as their legislature turned democrat democratic. when it comes to talking about the results overall being fraudulent or rigged, that seems to be a theory that he's trying to unveil. it is still not clear of how that ends up working.

>> in pennsylvania, all this about the feds investigating ballots, they're primary ballots. they're not general election ballots. we just had ag on the show. th says taken by his wor for argumentment saargument sake that he wants to get his own judge out there. do you like that kind of suggestion about the supreme court? >> no. a couple of things. he puts republican senators repudiated the notion of a peaceful transfer of power in the position of voting for the ninth justice. so i think that turns out. >> i think it is going to have an implication. >> without rbg on the court, you

will have a different outcome and voter suppression case. >> i am not sure if that's true. remember it is still 5-3 republican majority. i understand the president is upset with the chief justice for some votes he made but it is still a republican majority. and the other thing is before the president thinks that just by appointing his justice and additional justices to the republican majority, remember that he went in asking for immunity against the subpoena from the new york city. i am not sure whether republicans or democrats -- >> that was a real meat ball though in terms of balls and

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did you hear what the president said about the fda's push for tougher vaccine standards? listen. >> well, i tell you what. we're looking at that. that has to be approved by the white house. we may or may not approve it. that sounds like a political move. i think -- i think that was a political move, more than anything else. >> first of all, how do you feel about him having say over whether or not things are tested safely, or not, by the fda? putting that to the side, what he's talking about and no small irony is the fda considering more safety guidelines because, remember, put it through the processor of what's good for me, what's good for me, what's good for me? he doesn't want more because more means more time. a source says that the

guidelines would likely require companies to wait two months, after giving test subjects the second dose of the vaccine that you need to do to test it, before they can apply for the emergency-use approval. remember, emergency-use approval is already a shortcut. that would, of course, dash trump's hope for a potential pre-election vaccine, which would be fugazy, anyway, because it's not like we're going to have it in time for all of us before the election. so what's going to happen? so what does he do? he claims he can override the fda, claims they're playing politics. what does the fda chief say about it? this. >> our experts, who know about vaccines, will make this determination, and it will be only based upon the science and the data, not politics. that's my pledge. >> let's bring in top public-health expert, dr. leana wen. good to see you, doc. >> good to see you, too, chris. >> is the fda right?

or can he say speed it up, jack, and he'll say, yes, boss? >> you know, actually, the president and hhs, they do have authority over the fda. so it could be done. it would be unprecedented. but it's possible. then, we have to think about the consequence of what would happen? what if the fda says we're not ready to give emergency-use authorization, but the president says, let's do it, anyway? who is going to take this vaccine? you know, i'm in the group that would be eligible to get this under the emergency-use authorization, as a frontline provider. but i don't know other doctors and nurses who would say, sure, the fda said no, the president said yes, but i'm going to stick out my arm and get this vaccine. and i'm certainly not going to be recommending the vaccine to my patients, unless it's gone through the rigorous process, a process of approval, for safety and efficacy. speed should not be the driving factor here, and certainly not political expediency. >> all right. so let's talk about two reasons why. the first one matters most because what we're talking about

that can come at the cost of all deliberate speed, unintended consequences, side effects, whatever you want to call it. what can go wrong with a vaccine that, even if it's just, you know, a one in a hundred side effect, it's not one you want out there? >> yeah. so there are some rare but potentially very dangerous side effects. where we've even seen this in the astrazeneca trial where there is reported inflammation of the spinal cord. there is other possible reactions, including if you potentially get covid, you could have vaccine that makes the disease that you get from coronavirus even worse. now, these are extremely rare and i don't want to frighten people about it but this is to say that's why we need to do the safety test. if there is a rare reaction, one in a thousand, it might sound, well, who cares? it's one in a thousand. but if you are giving this to 3 million people, then we are talking about 300,000 individuals who are previously

healthy. >> people's trust. perfect. thank you for the segue. you know, because, you know, you're one group. you could take it. frontline clinician. but the people you need to take this are the minority populations because they're getting hit hardest by the disease. and they hear that it's being rushed up and now they want to use them as a bunch of guinea pigs. what could that do to the trust? >> that's exactly right. these are populations that have already faced many issues, before, with discrimination, with being experimented on unethically, illegally. i want to be able to tell my patients that this has gone through the strictest, scientific approval processes. and if that's not done, then we're essentially subjecting patients all across the country in an uncontrolled experiment. the single-most important thing that the fda can do, right now, is to vow to the american people that they will make all the data and all the science completely transparent. and that way, scientists who are external to the fda can also review those data. and i know that i, myself, i want to look at those data

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"cnn tonight" with doct lemon, major star, right now. >> i was listening to your conversation with the doctor. and i had andy slavitt on, two nights ago, and he told fda, i to. that's the consequences of an election. he can do it. >> yep. executive branch. it's his agency. >> yeah, but the trust. where would the trust factor be? >> especially, in the black and brown communities. they're four times more likely to get sick. twice as likely to get hospitalized or die. and you need them to have faith in the vaccine. and why wouldn't they feel like a bunch of guinea pigs if it's all being raced through and, all of a sudden, they're being asked to take it? it's not good. we have to have trust of our leaders in this society. and he makes it hard to