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rosie messaging and upset that treatments and therapies aren't moving as fast as he wants as he publicly contradicts doctors and experts on vaccine time lines, mocking masks, ignore guide lines. it also comes as his new task force proxy dr. scott atlas pushing for herd immunity undermined redfield this week when he said that 90% of americans are susceptible to the virus. i want to bring in dana bash, chief political correspondent here. dana, he's lost faith here in people that are operating their pandemic response based on reality and it's not just robert redfield. >> no. it's not. look. it's what he's lost faith in is the notion that the people who are trying to abide by science and lead by science and help with the recovery from and the
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response to this virus with science that that's how they're focused and not on the politics and what the president thinks is right for his legacy or more importantly and more immediately his re-election. we have seen this time and time again, brianna. i'm sure you have lost count how many times we have seen the people who are really at the tip of the spear scientifically saying things in public either at press conferences and interviews as we did this week under oath speaking to the really important committee that's in charge of oversight of the government's response and saying exactly what it is and giving the facts and that's what we should be seeing and then we should be seeing a government and a federal response led by the facts but that's not what we have seen for the most part for six mocnths. >> you have the chief of staff
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at the white house mark meadows escalating attacks against the fbi director wray and has to do the recent comments of elections and voter fraud. >> with all due respect to director wray, he has a hard time finding emails at his own fbi let alone figuring out whether there's any kind of voter fraud. perhaps he needs to get involved on the ground and he would change his testimony on capitol hill. >> dana, wray was picked by trump and certainly seems when you listen to this testimony he gave seems to have chosen the words carefully so what's so controversial about what he's saying? >> what's controversial is he is not political message with the president of the united states and the fact that the president sent his chief of staff out to reprimand the fbi director who as you said was choosing his words carefully and again was speaking under oath before
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congress is just another data point in so many remarkable and unfortunate moments that we have seen during this presidency. look. also remember the context here. chris wray is already in the doghouse with the president and with people who support him for not being more for example, investigating joe biden, investigating barack obama for things that nobody believes are legitimate reasons. but that's what his expectation is, his expectation has been that law enforcement officials, particularly those appointed, work for him and not the people. and that is what we just saw play out with the fbi director working for the people and the chief of staff saying that's not what we expect from you. >> all right, dana. thank you so much. really appreciate it. president trump is once again casting doubt on whether he'll accept the results of the election and agreed to a pillar
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of american democracy which is the peaceful transfer of power from one president to the next. >> are the elections -- ultimately legitimate if you win? >> so we have to be very careful with the ballots. the ballots, that's a whole big scam. we want to make sure the election is honest and i'm not sure it can be. i don't know that it can be with this whole situation unsolicited ballots, millions being sent to everybody. >> all right. let's be very clear here. the president's claims of ballots are not accurate. his own fbi director telling lawmakers thursday there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud but let's look beyond the rhetoric to the actions. these are the states where voting is already under way and right now the trump campaign and republican officials at the state and local level are actively engaged in efforts to make it harder for voters to cast a ballot, particularly by mail. but there is a double standard here because while trump is
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continuing his attacks on mail-in voting he is encouraging it in michigan and florida if you're one of his supporters. analysis indicates that this election will have a record shattering turnout. in response to the president's rhetoric the senate on thursday agreed to what should be obvious, that passing a resolution -- this is what they pass a. resolution that the chamber is committed to the orderly and peaceful transfer of power. >> we have had an orderly transfer of power every four years since washington was selected for a second term in 1792. that will happen again to the winner of the november 3rd election on january 20th, 2021. >> but just this morning, white house chief of staff mark
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meadows side stepped this issue saying that the president will commit to a peaceful transfer of power but failing what he views as fair. so let's turn to the numbers now. we have some new analysis showing that there's a surge in ballot requests and breaking records. already more than 28 million ballots have been requested and then another 43 million are set to be automatically mailed to voters so those figures are already shattering the number of ballots cast pre-election day in 2016 according to a cnn survey of election offices in 42 states and in the district of columbia. i want to break this down with david chalian. this is unprecedented. putt it all in perspective for us. >> it is and tracks with what we see in the election polling out there about interest in the election, enthusiasm for wanting to cast your ballot. look at the numbers again you put up about ballots requested
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and where ballots are automatically mailed out. you are looking at a universe of 71 million ballots have been requested or will be sent to folks in states where they're automatically mailed out. as you noted that's shattering how many were cast, 50 million pre-election ballots in 2016. it is going to show just a dramatic, we are just at the beginning of this process, increase in americans casting the ballot before election day. what do we know about the return of those ballots? it is just starting. it's about 522,725 ballots have been cast nationally in the 12 states that are actually reporting out that information right now. obviously in an election with -- going to have more than 130 million, 140 million voters casting ballots we are not at the 1% mark there of the baltds cast but the process under way,
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voters are voting. >> so we are seeing this because of the numbers there's going to be in high turnout this election. what is that going to mean for where the race is right now? >> it depends on the makeup of that turnout. right? just high turnout versus low turnout does not inform the election results but who turns out in those numbers. we are seeing some information and as you know not every state has voters register by party so we're not able to tell everyone where exactly what the partisan split is here but you can see the democratic advantage in terms of ballots being requested. okay? 1.3 million net advantage for the democrats in about 6 of the most contested battleground states that actually was able to share this information with our reporting team. this should not surprise anyone because everything we have seen in all of the polling to date
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has irndicated that democrats ae far more likely to say they want to cast their ballot either early in person or vote by mail absentee. trump supporters overwhelmingly say they want to cast their bal ballot in person on election day, two very significantly politically different electorates. the pre-election day voting and voting day electorate and critical to track through election day and beyond. >> david, thank you. i'll be speaking with the author of "the art of the deal." dr. fauci says america is still in the first wave of coronavirus and a new study may show why some people get more severe cases of covid than others. this is cnn special live coverage.
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the president is setting a dangerous precedent using a false pretension, repeatedly claimed if he loses it's because the election is rigged, planted a seed of doubt in supporters about the results before the election happened and it is working. just listen. >> do you think that if we get to election night or in the following days if biden winds up somehow becoming the winner do you think it's rigged? >> oh yes. very much so. >> election night -- >> yes. >> days after, if it shows up that joe biden won -- >> yes. >> in your opinion would that be the only way that trump could lose, a rigged election? >> absolutely. i agree with that because there's no way in heck all president's going to lose but
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it's a rigged election. some type of cheating went on, what have you and i firmly believe that. >> i want to bring in tony schwartz, co-authored "art of the deal" and "dealing with the devil." so, tony, we haven't spoken since the president floated this idea of not going along with a peaceful transition of power. what do you see in this? >> well, no surprise. trump plays outside the lines always. above the rules or below the rules. he will do anything he can to stir up the chance that in the absence of enough votes which is very likely now that he'll have some other way to steal the election. so i'm scarcely surprised, brianna. >> i know you have spent a lot of time with him as you wrote "the art of the deal."
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you are more familiar than most with his impulses. what do you think is causing him to escalate the rhetoric over the past couple of weeks? >> terror of losing. literally no more complex than that. he never shows the terror but the terror shows up in his anger and outrageousness. this is, you know -- we are in the 18,000 on the number of lies that trump has told over 4 years and so this idea that mail-in voting will be fraudulent, all of that is simply one more piece of deceit he hopes pushes people in his direction. >> you hear that he has pushed his supporters very mump ch in s direction and convincing them of this imaginary, widespread fraud. >> yes. you know, the one powerful thing that trump does is repeat.
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he rinses and he repeats. and so, even if it's not true, even if it's outrageous and preposterous, he will say it so many times to people who want to believe everything he says, who do see him bizarrely but undeniably as a savior, this will -- this is what they want to hear. they want to hear reassure me, the guy that just said a moment ago, it can only be a rigged loex. there's no way donald trump can lose. that's demented. that's that's diluted. even with no preference we know that either candidate could win so that repetitive style really is effective, especially with his base. >> i want to listen to something that veteran columnist tom friedman said sounding the alarm about the president's actions.
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>> you know, i began my career as a journalist covering lebanon's second civil war in its history and terrified to myself ending my career as a journalist covering america's potential second civ war in the history. >> you believe that? >> i believe what happened in the last few days is a six-alarm fire. i think it's def-five. the president of the united states has told us either i will win the election or delegitimatize the election. those are the choices, folks. >> do you think that's hyper bollic? he feels it genuinely? do you share the same worry? >> i unequivocally share the same worry. we are already in a civil war. we have been in one for quite sometime. that's the nature of the
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polarization and we have two very, very divided sides and feel very, very strongly and the only question is if trump loses and if he disputes it and rallies the supporters behind it will that civil war turn even more violent than it has been already? i do see as others have said, i do see the period between election day and inauguration of the next president as being an especially dangerous period because i do think that the -- that trump's base includes domestic terrorists, people capable of doing very ir relational things in the face of feeling thwarted. >> tony, thank you for your perspective. >> thank you. as the nation is on the verge of 7 million coronavirus cases there's a disturbing new study that shows how many
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at some point today the united states will reach 7 million cases of coronavirus and that means that roughly 1 out of every 5 infections in the world is happening here. right now nearly half of the country, 23 states, are experiencing an increase in new cases this week compared to last and the new projection says another 160,000 plus people will die from covid by the end of 2020 which is coming from a model that the white house uses. remember these forecasts from the institute of health metrics and evaluation have proven to be too cautious with lower numbers projected than what ends up happening on the ground. analysis from the same model finding if masks were universal in the u.s. 96,000 lives could be saved in this country but it's researchers say 48% of the country is using them which is 12 states showing mask wearing
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rates above 50%. california surpassed 800,000 directions and the virginia governor and his wife have tested positive with coronavirus. the nation's top infectious disease expert expressing frustration of the average of 43,000 new cases a day, much higher than the baseline of 10,000 a day that dr. fauci hopes the u.s. can drop to ahead of the flu season. >> given the fact that we have never got down to a good baseline, we are still in the first wave. rather than say a second wave, why don't we say are we prepared for the challenge of the fall and the winter? >> now dr. fauci explaining that second wave reference is back to the last major pandemic in 1918 seeing the highest death rate in the second wave after a period
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when the virus seemed to quote disappear. historians say the peak was right before halloween. let's turn to a doctor, an associate professor of medicine at nyu and health magazine. doctor, here we are. i wonder as you hear dr. fauci, it seems like he doesn't want to focus on the first or the second wave, that it is more the first wave and saying focus on being in this place where we accept the challenge of going into the fall. what do you think? >> yeah. i think the reason he make that is distinction is when you say the phrase the second wave you're sort of implying we beat the first wave, at an acceptable rate right now, but let's focus on the future. we are not at an acceptable rate and we are stl in the first wave, around 40,000 cases, that's still much too high to say we are comfortable or at a good level and as he said with winter coming, people indoors
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more and compounding that with flu cases that could overwhelm hospitals, it is going to be an extremely challenging situation coming up and wants to stress the fact that we cannot let the guard down and still at a very grave situation today. it is not a question of we are okay today, we need to deal with the covid situations as it is on the ground. >> there are two new studies to bring you about understanding why some people have a more serious case of coronavirus. in a study there's something called misguided antibodies that could be the problem. talk to us about the misguided antibodies and why we are seeing more severe covid in men and that this may be the reason. >> sure. so when your body responds to an infection it does so in many
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ways, proteins fight off the virus but sometimes that response, the abontibodies can attack your own body and you can have an overwhelming reaction to that and some people end up in the icu or dying. those antibody that is attack your body and they attack some of the immune factors that usually help you fight off the virus, since those are attacked in lower levels people that tended to have that auto and body reaction did worse with the virus and some people who were very sick and had a mutation in the production of an immune production and one of the tools that the body uses to fight off viral infection and this subgroup, that level was actually reduced with the mutation and they found that it was much more likely to be a male person than a female and
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may complain why we saw more death and severe sickness in men than women. >> thank you so much. you make everything so much clearer. >> thank you. ahead, a young coronavirus survivor will join me on the long term impact. also, retired require admiral that organized the letter with 500 national security experts endorsing joe biden. i'm going to respond to the white house's baseless attack on me, the wrong brianna that they should be worried about. l look k and remember the moment that things, for one strange time in our lives, got very quiet. some lost work and invented new ways to get by. others were busier than ever, and found strength they never knew they had. we sheltered with the people who matter most, sometimes finding how far apart we'd drifted.
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yesterday white house press secretary implied that i'm responsible for two police officers being shot in louisville. she is lying to americans again and i'll address that in a moment but first i'm not the brianna that the white house should be focused on right now. breonna taylor is. breonna taylor, the 26-year-old emt who just worked a series of overnight shifrts in the e.r. as coronavirus started to take hold in the u.s. when she was shot dead by the police. breonna taylor killed in a police raid that was the apparent result of poor detective work and the execution of a warrant led by officers not the same ones who had sought the
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warrant according to the state's a.g. breonna taylor who police thought was alone in her apartment because they missed the very important fact that she was with her boyfriend kenneth who legally owned a gun and discharged that firearm at police, woundsing one, when they entered taylor's home and he mistook them for an intruder. he was worried it was breonna taylor's ex-boyfriend glover who she put in the rear-view mirror several months before, whose alleged involvement in narcotics activity put her on the police target. he w her boyfriend was indicted until it was clear that he was defending them from what he thought was an intruder. breonna taylor whose family receive add $12 million settlement from the city of louisville, local police reform
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such as a prohibition on no knock warrants and a state task force announced by the a.g. to investigate how warrants are obstained and executed. each of those suggest that her death was preventable. forgive the family if they mourn the loss of the brightest light in their lives and wonder why it doesn't even register in the justice system. if they wonder why not one person faces charges in her death including the officer who fired ten shots into breonna taylor's apartment through closed blinds. facing charges not related to endangering taylor but because some of his bullets traveled through her apartment and into the next door neighbor's unit where they endangered the lives of a man, a pregnant woman and a child sleeping there. the white house wants us to talk about breonna taylor, that's the point of the ploy yesterday. they wager that a lot of america won't care enough about breonna
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taylor's life, there's no body cam footage, no video in this case and there are a lot of details to sort through. the president and those around him operate with a cynical calculation. they seem to be trying to drive a wedge between those who believe people should not shoot police and those who believe police should not kill unarmed black people or in this case armed black people who believe they're just defending themselves in their homes. these are not mutually exclusive. you can believe both. you don't have to choose. the white house wants us to talking about racism and the justice system because they use it as a springboard to scare americans about looting aided by fox news running episodes of violence on a loop that their hearts and minds won't be able to look past the fear to see injustice, the white house wants us talking about this so we aren't talking about how they have screwed up the federal
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response to the coronavirus that's killed more than 200,000 people, black, brown, and white. many of whom models show could have been saved if america had followed precautions the president scorns. or that the president is now teasing a constitutional crisis refusing to say if he'll accept a peaceful transfer of power or that mail-in ballots don't result in widespread mailer fraud. back to the most recent lie of the press secretary. i highlighted this comment from the kentucky attorney general daniel cameron. >> mob justice is not justice. justice sought by violence is not justice. it just becomes revenge. >> it was a deliberate and unmistakable choice of words. he should plead for peace in louisville and wasn't doing just that. he was using a divisive phrase that we have heard as the
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president attacks people of color and peaceful protesters and lumps them in with rioters. >> if biden wins the mob wins. if biden wins the rioters, anarchists, arsonists and flag burners win. if biden wins the violent mobs, you see the mobs all of the place, they're biden people, biden states and cities, democrat states. if they win, the mobs win. you see the guys, they go around saying i want your meal. we are all that stand between the american people and the left wing mob. >> the attorney general's purposeful use of that trump talking point while his city was on edge is what i highlighted on wednesday. >> to have him soerassociated w that convention and dronald trump's message of landfaw and r
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and it left something to be desired and probably undermined the credibility to a certain extent. >> i wonder what both of you think of that. i question the judgment of the kentucky attorney general saying, quote, mob justice is not justice. he said it becomes revenge. and you know, that's not being said in a vacuum, laura, because that word the mob and the president having said that if joe biden wins the mob wins, that's what he says, we know this is politically loaded language, already been seized by people on both sides of this debate about what we are seeing in this fight for criminal justice reform in the country. i wonder what you thought about him choosing those words when clearly this was something he chose his words carefully. >> that night tucker carlson chummed the waters of fox news with an edited down version of
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that moment. >> cnn knows that mob justice isn't just worth having. in fact, it's the substance of the democratic platform in 2020 so they attacked him for saying it. >> i question the judgment of the kentucky attorney general saying, quote, mob justice is not justice. he said it becomes revenge. that word the mob and the president having said that if joe biden wins the mob wins, that's what he says, we know this is very politically loaded language. >> look at yourself in the mirror, cnn anchor. what are you doing? you know what you're doing. you are encouraging violence. >> tucker carlson whose own company argues that his show is so full of it that viewers shouldn't be expected to believe that he tells them. fox news just successfully
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argued in a defamation lawsuit brought against the network and carlson by karen mcdougal said $150,000 by "national enquirer" parent company for the rights to the story to silence her about the alleged affair with donald trump. now according to the judge that dismissed the claim, quote, fox argues that given mr. carlson's reputation any reasonable viewer arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism about the statements he makes. any reasonable viewer. but not kayly mcenany leaving no doubt that it's a propaganda arm of this administration. >> the attorney general daniel cameron said if we simply act on emotion or outrage there is no justice. mob justice is not justice. justice sought by violence is not justice. it just becomes revenge. and contrast his message with
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that of cnn's brianna keilar who said, i question the judgment of the kentucky attorney general saying that mob justice is not justice. we know that this is very loaded language. that's an appalling statement from brie anna keilar of cnn and mob justice is not justice. hours later after this comment was made on cnn, two police officers were shot. >> at no timedy suggest that violence is justice. i can't believe i even have to explain that. the alternative is letting someone like the press secretary misquote and manipulate what you said. she repeatedly lies to the american people. >> the president never downplayed the virus. >> a lie. not only has president trump downplayed it in public saying that it will soon be over, virtually nobody young suffers from the virus told americans it was like the flu saying
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privately a killer. i could go on. if you dontd want to take my word for it, here's the president admitting it in february. >> i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down. >> yes, sir. >> because i don't want to create a panic. >> she also lies about lying. >> the president has never lied to the american public on covid. >> it's well documented the president lies about many things on a daily basis and coronavirus has been the focus of many this year. also this week, on the day that america saw the 200,000th death from the virus she said this. >> on the 200,000 deaths, will the president recognize that publicly? >> the president throughout this pandemic has done just that. he has said before that it keeps him up at night thinking of even one life lost. this president has taken this incredibly seriously.
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>> why haven't you said anything about the u.s. hitting 200,000 deaths? >> go ahead. anybody else? >> in fact on that same day, he tweeted 23 times, none of them addressing the victims, their families or survivors of this virus. >> i will never lie to you. you have my word on that. >> finally, it is actually her boss who's the one repeatedly encouraging violence, including just this week praising violence against journalists. >> they were grabbing them left and right. sometimes they grab one guy. i'm a reporter! i'm a reporter! get out of here. they threw hm aside biblg like he was a bag of popcorn. but no. but i mean, honestly, when you watch the crap we have had to take so long, when you see that, you don't want to do that but when you see it it's a beautiful sight. >> that is not real leadership. real leadership is calm.
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but you're still very much actively in recovery. you survived what you considered a mild case in the spring and months after, you got a startling diagnoses. tell us about this. >> so, i had covid back in early march. i was one of the first people in the new york area to get a positive diagnoses. and by the end of april, i thought i was okay. i had lingering symptoms but they came off in almost a full-on resurgence of symptoms over the course of the summer. then i started seeing all these doctors and i got diagnosed with, of all things, gli coma, which the ophthalmologist is pretty sure was brought on by the covid. we're seeing it effect every single organ system, even from the tylenol and gatorade, like i dpid. people at home, who were not hospitalize said.
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>> i wonder if doctors have been able to answer that for you. >> they have very little information at this point because all studies to this point have been done on hospitalized pastients because nobody is going to the doctor with covid. we're telling people who are quite ill stay at home, do the best you can and whatever you do, do not seek medical help unless you think you're dying. so, we have very few data on non-hospitalized patients. that's what we're trying to fill. we have no idea how long this is going to last. some of these things seem quite permanent. scarring of the heart and severe neurological issues. people with post covid onset diabetes. people having heart attacks and strokes in their 20s and 30. and we don't know what it's going to do to our children either.
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both of our children had it. they had mild cases but i do worry about their long-term health. >> this is such an important topic. it's so important. thank you, dianna. >> thank you, brianna. cnn is learning president trump is frustrated with his cdc director because of his sober messaging on the pandemic. and an emotional message to black women after the killing of brianna taylor. is that net carbs or total?...
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i want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. the science on the coronavirus pandemic has long been at odds with the president's messaging. and now we're learning he's losing patience over this contradixz. dr. robert redfield is among the experts he has been delivering sober and strongly encouraging masks as we enter the flu season. trump is frustrated top health officials are countering his rosy assessment and he believes breakthroughs aren't coming swiftly enough. that's one example of a pattern we're seeing. where we hear one thing from top
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