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and tomorrow. don't miss our episode tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. first presidential debate is on tuesday, it is called "debate anticipated." we'll have all the angles on it. the news continues right now, turning it over to "primetime," chris cuomo. i am chris cuomo, welcome to "primetime." today is day three of the president sabotaging. this is his stump teselling poi. >> i don't know about his ballot situation. november 3rd, democrats are playing games. you see they found ballots that are dump insied in a stream. we may end up in dispute for a long time. we'll end up winning for sure. >> the truth is he's trying to
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poison as many minds as he can so if the polls turn out to be right and he does lose, he can cause more chaos. i know his words are often a waste of time. call me reactionary, i thiwant show you more and more of these. if you take at his words as outrageous as they are and if you look at his action and members of the party knows what's going on here. they are both silent in a sky that's blacked out. we find one lone star, a governor who wants to speak truth to power. >> mail-in ballots have been
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with us forever. that peaceful transfer of power is what the people of this country rely on when they go to vote. it is appalling and outrageous that anyone would suggest for a minute if they lose an election, they're not going to leave. period. >> so trump of course attacked governor charlie baker. why? if you are not for trump, you are not a republican anymore. you know what? i think the president has a point there. in 2016 remember this, he said it was wrong for a judge to be seated so close to elections. he said it to me on my show.
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now he says tomorrow he needs to do and said what's wrong and nominate a justice because he says he needs as many conservative justice on the supreme court as possible to have his back if he loses. multiple senior republican sources tell cnn the white house is indicating that amy coney barrett is the intended nominee. senate democrats are going to press whoever trump is to commit recusing themselves if a high court hears the case that could impact the outcome of the election. do you think any nominee of trump is going to agree to something like that if they want to stay a nominee of trump? come on. there is much more you have to focus tonight. there is an attack the vote campaign by this president and his people and we can show it to you. you just heard him say there these ballots, tra found in theh
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and the stream. what stream? here is what we know and we have an update for you tonight. nine military ballots from abroad sent to pennsylvania were in properly discarded by a third party contractor who's new to the work. you know who says that? trump's doj blasted out that seven of those votes were for him. that's an unusual move by a department of justice, okay? they don't usually talk about their in-process investigations and they're really not supposed to talk about any investigations that are done during an election because they don't want to affect the election but there you go. they said more than that. the word from the offices, it was done by this third party contractor that this is how they got in, they have a whole rational explanation for it. it has no proof in it from their
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own investigations that there is any intent to discard biden or trump's ballots. why didn't he tell you that or add on what's known? some stream? why didn't he say my own department of justice that i had looked at it says -- why didn't he? >> we had pennsylvania's attorney general on the show tonight to ask about it. he told us they were ballots from the primary election. they were not. they were from the general. it is a meaningful difference. where did that mix up come from? we'll get the real deal right now. we have back tonight, pennsylvania's attorney general, josh shapiro. thank you for taking the opportunity to come back. appreciate that. pray for us brother, i know yom kumpur is coming.
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how do we screw this up? >> last time was so much fun, i decided to come back for more here. >> that i never heard before. >> this is what happens when you have a president create chaos and some of the leadership of the department of justice seemingly get ahead of what really needs to happen in a fact-finding mission which is to get all the information. if you recall when i came on last night, there were these two press releases that came out. the one that i think left standing referenced the primary. the assumption that these ballots were from the primary. i chase down the facts and talked todd the u.s. attorney and talked to the district attorney, these were military ballots that had been sent out for the general election.
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here is the situation, we have now learned the facts and we have learned as you said in the promo, this was a seasonal worker who made a mistake. he was caught by the county worker who reported to his boss and immediately went to law enforcement and conducted a proper investigation and now we know as i said to you last night there are clerical issues and there are criminal issues. this was a clerical issues. . those brave souls who were serving in the military overseas can contact the board of elections to determine what's the next step they need to take about their ballots. let's not ignore the broader issue here. while this is all going on in the ground, we have a president
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in the united states going out and spewing this irresponsible nonsense, trying to create a narrative that suits his aim of creating chaos in our community when we should be taking a deep breath and figure out what the facts are. now we have the facts and the facts don't meet the president's rhetoric. not all that difference on the feedbacks facts of coronavirus. he wants to change all the facts and ignore all the information. we have 200,000 dead in this country and people continue to be sick in any state and others. he tries to manipulate facts and creates chaos. we deal with evidence, facts and the american people understand that as well. >> did they find any ballots in the stream? >> oh chris, there were some reference made to a dumpster or trash can. did you know why?
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>> no. >> ballots are secured so law enforcement can review what happened. we have a president of the united states putting out these bogus and irresponsible conspiracy theory to stoke people up and make them feel like somehow their votes and their participation in our democracy is meaningless, to try to take away their power in this process. at the end of the day, the people have the power and it is up top us on your show and in our communities and on our timeline on social media to deal with facts and not the fiction and to calm nerves and focus on protecting our democracy. that's what we are trying to do and that's why we need all law enforcement here. >> you are familiar with doj and how they work. do you think it is odd they put out a press release and says who
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the votes are for? >> why would they mention that? >> look. ifr a lot of confidence in the federal law enforcement officials op rigerating on the ground here. i work with them everyday and including the united states attorney who's involved in this case. we have a strong and productive way here in pennsylvania, what i find remarkable is that before they were able to complete their jobs, the white house's press secretary, the president of the united states spewing all these craziness and making it harder for law enforcement to do our job and have the integrity of our system and have faith in our process. that's our job. >> i hear about the people on the ground, i am not going after everybody. i just pulled a couple of
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things. this stinks to me how this was handled. you got my respect for coming back on and talk about it. a lot of people would not. >> put up the doj guidance for me, please. so, this could not be less the case. that's why i don't like them putting it out and getting it wrong and having them corrected and especially of the rod rosenfie rosenstein thing, long standing policy that we refrain from publicizing non-public information. >> chris, it is hard to respon s
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to that because it is hard to imagine we are in this moment in time of our country where there are certain people weaponizing the rule of law and trying to use it as a tool to benefit one person or one party over the other. the rule of law is something shared by all, democrats and republicans. here in pennsylvania we respect the rule of law and what we try to do is stay calm and focus on the facts and evidence. trying to ignore the noise from the president and ensure the public that their votes will be counted whether it is by mail or at a polling placement that's our job. the law enforcement rise above the noise of the president and his temper tantrums and focusing on doing the work that the people of pennsylvania trusted me to do and the american people want us all to do. >> ag, thank you very much.
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pray for all of us and have an easy fast. >> thank you, my friend. the president puts out there, oh, goni don't know, i don't kn. yes, you do know. there is no stream or found in the garbage. there was no proof from the fed that there is any evidence or proof that this was done maliciously. why is he suggesting otherwise? you know who's really hurting trump supporters in terms of their vote and securing the franchise of this election? he is by telling you not to vote by mail-in ballot. if you are worried about covid in your area, get a ballot and vote your conscious and vote your heart but vote. the system is fine. i can't believe i have to say that. the system is fine.
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we have no proof any other way. that's what this is about. attack the vote, that's trump's campaign rally. you know what, it is a gift to our enemies. this is exactly what russia wants us to be thinking and doing except they thought outside agents have to make it happen and not our president. what can we do to secure the integrity of our votes? let's ask one of trump's former national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster, what a pleasure to have him here, next. advil targets pain at the source. acetaminophen blocks pain signals. new advil dual action with acetaminophen. "could have been me" hey mercedes?
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a little bit of breaking news on our watch. a federal judge in montana ordered trump's acting dreirect of the bureau of land management to step aside. why? because he's been serving under that role unlawfully over a year. it is major role of the president's attempt to get around the confirmation process. he does not want top aids to be confirmed because of the checked record he has so instead he installs acting. william perry penly to be removed.
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he did not have the title of the acting director. the judge did not buy it. his position violates the law. the interior department says it will appeal. that's instruction then i have a big segment with h.r. mcmaster. you heard harry reid why he did what he did for executive appointments. the republicans under mitch mcconnell said we won't let obama did anything. this is how this president is getting around, finding ways for both sides to accommodate nominees, calling them acting. very interesting. how we got here today, this mess and chaos. it is not a simple path of how we got here. what we know for sure is controversy, chaos and all over this trump's white house and especially tonight. every american intel agency is warning us that russia wants us to be doing basically what we are doing right now, questioning the legitimacy of our own
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democracy. those who know like our next guest, h.r. mcmaster are trying to get you to see what's going up on. he has a new book. it is called "battleground." trump's former national security adviser. so let's talk a little bit about the russians trying to undermine our democratic process, listen. >> i think it is going to be a rigged election. the russians want to spread this information, right? >> when it gets warmer, miraculously it will go away. >> that was about the pandemic. the russians want to enflame racial division, right? >> you are going to destroy your suburbs. the russians want to spread the election results, right? >> maybe i will never know the
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election results. >> the greatest tool seems to be our president. general mcmaster, welcome to "primetime." we'll do it through a skeptical dialectic. oh, russia, you guys say they always come after us and china and north korea. it is only making a big deal now because of trump and you are trying to get him. it is no worst now than ever been. >> hey chris, it is great to be with you. >> the pleasure is mine. thank you. >> the history and the approach i take is basically to understand how the past produce the present. russia has been trying to disrupt our democracy since the 1920s. now they have all sorts of new tools available to them especially the cyber enabled
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information warfare that they are waging against us. as you alluded what they're trying to do is create a crisis in confidence, reducing our confidence as who we are. they do this with a sustained campaign. what they try to do is magnify extreme voices on both ends of the political spectrum. and i think that's what we are seeing today in connection with sustained effort to diminish our confidence in our election, our confidence in our common identity as americans. chris, after the 2016 election, the russian activity went way up. this is the internet research agency, this is kind of front organization for the g ru and the successors of the kgb. hillary clinton won the election because of a rigged election. well, with donald trump when he
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won, it kind of priced the usur russians. well, donald trump would have won the popular vote if the election were rigged. it is really an effort to diminish our confidence in the results. they supported far right groups and left groups. what they wanted to do is destroy our consensus of what it means to be americans. >> i want to talk to you about white supremacists and this is fascinating. it is called "battleground." the idea that russia does not really need to do anything. all the words i just played for you came out of the president's mouth. >> right. >> you have said here and according to my reporting when you are in the white house, you got to stop this. you can make the same point a lot of different ways but don't tear at this stuff because we
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are fighting it back. what does it mean to you to hear the president say the things you are trying to stop russia from planning? >> it is just wrong, chris, we are not only regrettable but damage to our democracy and plays into russia's hands. this is true across the political spectrum. the president says things that are damaging and what i have found and described in different parts of the book is the reaction is just as damaging. what i would say to all political leaders, the president, those who oppose him and greatest supporters, anybody that this involved in this partisan debate that we have going on right now, don't be our worst enemies. on any issue, i wish we can begin the discussion on what we
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agree on because i think americans would find, hey, we agree quite a bit to make our nation better and secure a future for our nations to come. it seems like we are determined to pull ourselves apart. this is mainly on us, right? i mean russia makes it worse but they don't create these divisions. >> you know i will tell you and the audience something that'll be surprising but it goes to your point. wh pushing the first wave of stuff he was getting out of ukraine, the reporting quickly went around that people around rudy were worried about who he was associating with. it is not just andre dirkash by intelligence agency as a russian tool for their own propaganda. there were others and i went to rudy's guys, hey, you got to tell him and they stopped me. you think you know something we don't know? we are telling them. these guys are bad guys.
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i have never heard of that before where someone that close to a president would mess with people that his friends are telling him, stay away from these guys. the intel people saying this guy is no good and rudy comes on my show and says they're wrong. >> the russians are really good. putin is a kgb operator, one of the best liars in the world. what they try to do is infiltrate an organization. so they can use it against them. what's described in "battleground" is this fire hose they use. i mean this kremlin of what they do is really activities you describe as implausible, and it
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is obvious they tried to kill serg serg sergei in the spring and they were so brazen and they used to same technology to kill navalny. >> i mean that's putin's greatest -- who's going to do something? what a bizarre world when we have the president and one of his own personal lawyer putting out thing that is the russians want out there to hurt the democracy. you know when we bring up that you know domestically these guys are the big concern. people hated hearing that.
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when we were living in fear of islamism and people forget. white supremacists, we got to be careful. now you are trying to make it political. what do you want people to know about the reality that's not just 15 guys wearing nazi guards that there is a reason you guys keep identifying white nationals? >> i think what i would like people to know that this is a cycle. it is a cycle that begins with ignoran ignorance. ignorance is used to form hatred. this ignorance is what our enemies can weapon siize and wh we do to ourselves on social media. what's different in this environment today is the way of these extreme people who used this cycle of ignorance and patriot and violence.
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they have the much louder voice because of the algorithm on social media and more content that is reenforced rask thrathe challenged us. and our mainstream media, people that identified -- they watch one network instead of all of us having a common understanding of this issue. it is a big problem and i am afraid it is getting worse because of the way we communicate or don't communicate with each other. we need to come together for real conversations about these issues and what you see today is this interaction, you may call it identity politics with racism and bigotry that's pulling us apart from each other. we need to come together as americans and reenforce who we
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are as people. we need to reenforce and the principles we all believe in, respect and tolerance and the rule of law. you know what we may everyon do celebrate the facts that at least we have a say in how we are governed. if your economy is china, you don't get a say. we are on a position to do that. i think that we should take that opportunity even in the midst of this that we see everyday. >> it is hard. messaging matters, we are not hearing a lot these days. general mcmaster. i want to ask you to come back soon and let's give people more specifics of what you want and look out for during the election cycle. if it works for your calendar, i will make it work for ours. it will be a great help especially we only have a few
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weeks left. >> chris, i will be happy to do that. i appreciate with the insight and glood luck with the book. "battleground." >> third night of protests over the grand jury's decision not to hold any kentucky officers account l for table for the kil breonna taylor. breonna's mother and family members marched downtown earlier this evening. her lawyer is demanding to see the information presented to the grand jury. why? well, the attorney for breonna's boyfriend says the case was designed to let officers off the hook. how can he make that point and back it up? he says he can and he's here to do so. next. i can't wiat to share at&t's big 5g news... (shouting through the glass) at&t has nationwide 5g? yup! and that's faster? faster, yea! but is it reliable? ah huh and secure!
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tonight a third night of protest calling for justice zan transparency after no officers charged in breonna's death. there is another person who wants the kentucky ag to release the findings. kenneth walker, the boyfriend of breonna's. walker's attorney is joining us now. why do you want to put it out there, the charges are dropped, why do you care? >> they dispriszmissed the char without prejudice which means they can charge him at any time. >> we filed a motion and an action for the case to be dismissed with prejudice so jeopardy attaches and he can never be charged gwagain for th.
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>> one beat on him, counselor and i know you have broader concerns as well. on him, he said i got startled and didn't know who it was so i fired. why is that not the end of the analysis for you. what did the ag say that you don't like? >> well, they framed him and indict him with 1 minute and 52 seconds. the shot they claim hit officer mattingly, they could not determine it is fired from kenny's gun. >> is it something about how it is consistent with a 9-millimeter which is what he had and the officer had 40-cal so it could not be him.
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police record shows he has a 9 millimeter service weapon as well. he's the one who disappeared about four hours after the shooting and no one can locate. he's also the one in his own interview with police, he's the one who ran around and blindly firing according to the chief of police who fired. his testimony was i kept seeing flashes so i fire at the musszz flashes. it can only be at other law enforcement officers. >> the point is? >> the point is he's by his own testimony, he's admitting he's shooting at other law enforcement also. the other thing is officer
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mattingly never announced he was shot for over one minute and 12 seconds after the first shot was fired. he also does not announce until after he's outside and he and another officer tripped over each other by his own testimony. >> i get it. but he'll get an explanation for that. >> he trips over and carries a 9 millimeter. >> so understand the concern. >> there is a conclusion that they want to come to so they don't investigate anything else that will con tradict that. you believe there is a pattern of that in this case. >> i know there is a pattern.
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you think it goes to the overall analysis of the case as well. >> i know there is a pattern, i reviewed the case. noing that the police officers say in their interviews is can i not with one another or is it consistent with the physical everyday in the case. one of them says kenny walker and breonna taylor was in a prone position. they said they fired 12 to 15 shots. >> we know it is not possible because none of those were recovered. we also have officer mattingly says i was shot and i return fire as we are back out. officer hoover, i see blood
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everywhere and i drag him out the door. there is no blood in the apartment. everything they say is in consistent with one another. >> i do not believe they gave the grand jury an option to charge anyone with a homicide. i also don't believe they gave the grand jury to charge the other two officers with anything. >> stooeeve, you don't know wha they did or did not do, right? >> how could this ag not offer the grand jury that went to the fact that breonna's death was
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caused by police officers. would it be just asking for trouble by ignoring that? >> how could he do it in good faith. if he does it in bad faith, he can. that's my decision, i determined they acted in self defense so i didn't want to present. the reason, when a case presented to a grand jury in kentucky and they issue no true bill. the grand jury did not find probable cause in the indictment. there were zero no true bill returned in this case. it was never presented to them. >> it could not be because the ag did it and not the local prosecutor that changes the process at all.
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>> loeet's do this. i know you want more information. i will stay on the story. when you get information that forms your opinion or when i get information that the opinion is off, let's do this again and stay on it and get people as much information as we can. >> let give them all the information. >> there is no valid reason for the attorney general to oppose or pleahe issing at all. steven, thank you very mump. the call for justice more breonna echoes john llewis. you can tune on sunday as cnn presents john lewis:good
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protest is for racial equality for justice in america has been peaceful largely. >> the president wants you to believe this. >> the entire summer joe biden was silence as his far left supporters assaulted police officers and harassed americans and set buildings on fire. you look at portland, how about portland? if biden wins, the mob wins, arsonists and they win. >> he used the department of justice, portland and seattle and new york city, anarchist.
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cnn's l.a. reid got extreme progress on both sides. take a look. >> well, they stop moving as well. >> it is a problem in our police department. this is one week in portland, oregon. antipolice protests right-wing group, patriot prayer, named aaron jay danielson was killed by a protestor. everyone feared violence would escalate. >> the reason that we are out here is because concessions don't work. voting for the lesser of two evils just leaves us worse off, every time. >> we're not doing this because
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we hate america. we all have one goal in mind, and that is ending police brutality. people are dying. and if water bottles being thrown at the police stops that, i'll do it every day. >> how long have you been coming to the protests? >> the whole time. since may 29th, for me. >> our role is basically frontline medic support. no matter where it comes from. it could be tripping in the street. it could be getting pushed into a building. could be gunshots. we cover it all. >> i've had to deescalate about three outside agitators who have come in with guns. they were always far and few in between. it was like some guy who is like antifa's terrorists. and we're like it's just a protest. >> we don't have weapons. the most weaponized we get is
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like shields. >> well, i like the peaceful protests. but when they burn stuff or break windows, that's -- that's different. >> i say property doesn't bleed but i do. if ending systematic oppression means a store gets burnt or looted and nobody's hurt, how is that any worse than living in a situation where i have to fear for my life, every day? >> we are on top of the doughnut shop, which is ironically located across from the portland police union. the protest will continue for a couple hours. and then, all of a sudden, there will be a huge rush of riot cops. >> back in may, when the protests started, did you have a gas mask? >> no, of course, i didn't have a gas mask. i mean, i had face mask for
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covid but none of us had gas masks. i think we've raised about $30,000 this week to buy bulletproof vests because it turns out that we might need them and that's really terrifying. >> so i've got a body cam, two cord things that need evidence in court. >> i currently have a head injury. like i'm still recovering from a tbi. it was back when we were still under the federal occupation. >> that was july, right? >> yeah. but they stopped me directly and then i got post-concussion syndrome like 22 hours later. >> something i've noticed is that there is a moment of kind of party feeling, you stand in front of the police. but then, there's somewhere where it kind of gets quiet and it's like there is a tension. it seems to almost be inviting the confrontation, like the protest can't end without that clash. >> yes. a big part of what's happening here is that it has to be uncomfortable.
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>> well, before we even came out of the park, they decided to announce that it was an unpermitted march. someone threw some incendiary devices and then all hell broke loose. and there was teargas flying in. fireworks. and they're making a push. >> how do you see it ending? >> i'm not sure. we haven't seen much of any change. but the people out here are activists, and maybe they didn't start as activists. and that carries on for the rest of your life. >> reporter: president trump has warned antifa will ruin the suburbs. >> does anybody want to have somebody from antifa as a resident of your suburb? i don't think so. >> [ bleep ] you, antifa.
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we don't want your [ bleep ] oregon. >> reporter: both sides say they act, only, in self-defense. but, in person, things get out of hand quickly. >> as far as patriot prayer, we do not condone violence. that's not what we're about. i can't speak for some of these other guys. but in the end, we all love our country and support our president. >> do you think this is some kind of weird, civil war? >> i don't see it as that, yet. but eventually, it could lead to that. because the whole blm/antifa moment has just gotten more and more and more violent, as time progresses.
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and it's literally across the nation. and we're tired of it. it's time for us, as patriotic citizens, to take back our cities. and if it means by violent means, we'll have to do it. >> reporter: cnn, portland. >> it's a great, deep look by ellie reeve and her team. but what an obvious takeaway, i hope, for all of you. boy, does this situation cry out for leadership. we have to be better than this. we'll be right back. it's been 75 years since your ancestors served in world war two. many of their stories remain untold. find and honor the veterans in your family.
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