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u.s. president donald trump will go head to head with joe biden in their first presidential debate tonight. it comes on the heels of that explosive "new york times" report which detailed mr. trump's extensive financial losses and tax avoidance. issues biden will be sure to target him on. cnn's kaitlyn collins has the latest. >> totally fake news. >> reporter: as president trump is lashing out over a damning "new york times" report about the dire state of his finances, his aides are claiming it's a last-minute hit job before the first debate. >> we've seen this play out before where there was a hit piece about the president's taxes just before a debate and an inaccurate one at that.

>> the president has paid lots of taxes but the point is that why would anybody pay more than they owe? >> reporter: neither his staff nor the president have provided any documents to refute what the "new york times" is reporting, including that he only paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017 despite the millions that he earned. >> actually, i paid my tax but you will see that as soon as my tax returns -- it's under audit. they've been under audit for a long time. the irs does not treat me well. >> reporter: that number not only pales in comparison but also to past presidents who pay tens of thousands of dollars. it shows trump paid no income tax in 10 of 11 years of documents they obtained. when he did pay taxes he reduced what he owned including a $73 million tax refund now the

subject of an irs audit. it turns out that trump's best known properties drain the most money. he's lost around $315 million on his golf properties over the last two decades, including on trump national doral near miami where the president tried to host the g-7 summit. >> okay? but i was willing to do this for free and they wouldn't -- it would have been the greatest g-7 ever. >> reporter: the report also shows trump made more money than previously known from foreign governments, including during his time in office, and used tax deductions for so-called business expenses that most people would consider personal ones, like $70,000 in hair styling while hosting the apprentice. perhaps what could be most damaging from the reports is what's to come. the "times" says an enormous amount of financial pressure is facing trump because hundreds of millions of dollars of loans that he is personally

responsible for will be due within the next four years. >> this president is the commander in chief. he has exposure to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. to whom the public has a right to know. >> reporter: now the president also claimed he was not contacted for a request for comment for that "new york times" investigation though his attorney was on the record in the story and he later the next day did not answer questions from reporters about the state of his finances. kaitlyn collins, cnn, traveling with the president in cleveland. norm isen is a fellow with the brookings institution and a former white house ethics czar during the obama administration. he joins me now from washington. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me, rosemary. >> so lots of big questions regarding how president trump avoided paying any taxes for ten of a span of 15 years and then just paying $750 in 2016, $750

in 2017. he calls this fake news despite bragging about avoiding paying taxes when he debated hillary clinton in 2016. your reaction to all of this? and the ethics of a president who thinks this is acceptable. >> well, rosemary, as president obama's ethics czar, i was responsible for helping to reveal his financial disclosures and process his tax returns, and i can tell you that this is not fake news. we now know why president trump has been so keen to hide these tax returns. that's what the fight for the irs is about, the ludicrous sum

of $750. to me since you ask about the ethics angle, the fact that he's raking in millions of dollars from conflicted sources, including federal governments, that's revealed. it has showed a $300 million debt which raises national security concerns, such as who his creditors might be and what leverage they may have. what are your thoughts on that and the possible implications, if it is russia or turkey or some other nation. just in the span of two years where we have the data.

3 million from the philippines, large sums from other foreign nations and we know that he has got hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due in the coming years. much of it would be in the coming years as the ultimate security and he's shown no compunction from taking this money from foreign governments. that is an alarming situation. it is another reason that we should have had these tax returns before and it is disqualifying, just

disqualifying. >> did he break the law or was he just being smart, as he said he was back in 2016? >> well, the tax returns, he used the full amount of his losses to reduce his tax debt but the rule is you're not allowed to do that if you benefitted at all from the transaction that created the loss. this was the notorious casino bankruptcy and we know he received a 5% interest in the new company so that raises a very substantial question whether all of those tens of millions of dollars in losses that he applied were improperly applied. >> thank you very much. >> thanks, rosemary. in less than 24 hours u.s.

president donald trump and democratic presidential candidate joe biden will square off in the first of three high stakes presidential debates. cnn's arlitt saenz joins us or shows us how they're preparing and why tuesday's debate will look very different from past debates. >> reporter: joe biden and president trump have sparred from afar for about the past year and a half, but they will come face to face here in cleveland for their first presidential debate as they make their case to voters. each of these candidates preparing for the debate in their own way. biden started out by reading briefing books and he's huddled with his top advisers as he prepares for what he describes will be personal attacks from the president. now the president has also been studying up on possible lines of attack from joe biden. he had rudy giuliani and chris christie stand in during debate preparations. one big question is how the story about the president's tax returns will play into this debate. the biden campaign eager to make

this a campaign between scranton and park avenue arguing that the president is only looking out for his own interests and not those of everyday americans. we got this story about the tax returns amplifies that case. now this debate will look a lot different than past debates. there will be no traditional hand shakes between the candidates as they take the stage. they will remain socially distanced. the audience is a much smaller size. everyone on hand will be tested for coronavirus as the debate commission has adapted to this debate in the middle of the pandemic but later tonight biden and trump will be on that stage one on one for the first time after lobbing all of those criticisms at each other. arlitt saenz, cleveland, ohio. larry sabado joins me now.

good to have you with us. >> thank you, rosemary. >> larry, hours away from the first of three presidential debates between president donald trump and joe biden and the trump campaign is warning not to under estimate biden despite previously attacking his mental state. what is behind that strategy? >> i think somebody in the trump operation finally realized it was stupid that biden could barely function when in fact biden is a skilled debater. he's been at this for almost 50 years. people forget he won the two vice presidential debates he was in against sarah palin and speaker ryan. so you don't want to under estimate someone like that, yet that's exactly what president trump did and reinforced with his base and everybody else. >> of course, now we're all aware of the report put out by "the new york times" that donald trump avoided paying any taxes for ten years and then only paid

about $1500 for 2016 and 2017. so how do you expect those revelations to play out in this first debate? how would you think that biden would handle this? >> well, joe biden got a big break. this was released on sunday and it's been top of the news now for more than 24 hours. so most people who watch the debate will be aware of the issue, though we do have over 80 million people expected to watch, incredible. 80 million plus. so this is a gift to joe biden because it's not that ideological a charge. you simply point to the president and say, he paid a lot less taxes than x percent of you and mention some average people, maybe feature it in the ad that biden had out today. almost everybody has paid more in taxes than donald trump did.

>> now we pretty much know the approach from donald trump. he is going to be on the attack but he's going to be on the defense when it comes to his own taxes. what strategies do you expect to see from both trump and biden and how should each of them respond to the other's attacks to come out on top? >> based on past debates, trump really has only one approach, attack, attack, and attack again. that's what we should see. he's going to try to get under biden's skin f. biden loses his temper completely, it's not a good look. his people have prepared him so he doesn't. it's perfectly okay for biden, as i think he will do, to go after trump in tough terms, not harsh terms. you have to modulate these things. i expect a lot of back and forth and trump to disobey the rules

and undoubtedly we'll need a 90-minute period just to evaluate the lies and misrepresentations in the debate. >> right. as you say, they're both prepared for this. we know that donald trump is going to go after joe biden's son hunter biden and the work that he did in ukraine. this would be the instance, of course, where you could possibly potentially see biden lose his temper. how would he need to handle that? >> well, i assume his staff has tried to work with him on it. he will be angry. the trump family will be a fair target if trump does, indeed, go after hunter biden. there's a lot of material there. >> larry sabato, thanks. >> thank you, rosemary. thanks. be sure to watch the debate

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more than 1 million people across the globe have now died from the coronavirus, and those are just the deaths we know about. that's 1 million sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, parents and grandparents who have been lost to the deadly virus. covid-19 is still spreading across the united states, south america and europe. it's been less than a year since the first death was confirmed and since then the outbreak has caused heart ache and trauma for everyone. the united states has been the worst affected nation overall with more than 20% of the global death toll. arguably the most powerful nation in the world has been unable to get a handle on its

pandemic response, partly because states are left to decide their own responses. we get more details now from cnn's alexandra field. >> it honestly looks like it's business as usual. >> reporter: precould he individual florida in a post covid world. packed bars just days after governor ron desantis dropped virtually all coronavirus restrictions. >> i think it's going to have a huge impact. >> reporter: no morphines for people who refuse to wear a mask. the state's daily case count has been well below the july positivity rate. across the country it's on the rise in 21 states. seven states saw their highest weekly averages for new cases. with wisconsin reporting the highest single day increase over the weekend. >> one of the biggest challenges we have is some people just don't believe this is a serious

disease, even to this day. >> reporter: in new york more than 1,000 cases on saturday, the most since june. a major cluster in brooklyn and queens forcing the city to decide whether to bring back restrictions in impacted neighborhoods. >> it is very targeted and very focused in those clusters. >> reporter: all this as the nation's top infectious disease expert said the white hose he's reportedly criticized. robert redfield was overheard on the phone speaking about dr. atlas saying, quote, everything he says is false and going on to suggest atlas is providing the president with misleading data. the cdc has responded saying redfield and atlas have disagreeing positions. dr. fauci weighed in with this. >> most are working together.

i think you know what the outlier is. >> reporter: alexandra field, cnn, new york. well, now after repeatedly claiming more tests lead to more cases, the white house is giving states guidance on how to ramp up testing. president donald trump formerly announced a plan on monday to dispurse 150 million tests. >> today i'm pleased to report that we're announcing our plan to distribute 150 million avid rapid point of care tests in the coming weeks, very, very soon. this will be more than double the number of tests already performed. these new avid rapid point of care tests are easy to use, return results within just minutes. you'll have a result and be a maximum 15 minutes. machine, no machine is required to process them so in the old days when we started this, you remember we'd go out and we'd have to find these massive laboratories with tremendously expensive equipment.

now we're down to something that you'll see that is really from a different planet. >> dr. scott miscovich is a national consultant for covid-19 testing. thank you, doctor, for joining us from hawaii. >> thank you for having me. >> president trump talked about disbursing 150 million rapid covid-19 tests that he had back in august. will these be enough to ensure students and teachers in colleges are tested or should millions more be made available now? >> both are good questions. the answer is this technology is now just being made available. this is the rapid point of care antigen test. the problem with this test is it's not that accurate. it's probably 75 to 80% accurate and it's only accurate when

you're actively symptomatic. it's not a screening test. most of us do want to see antigen tests widely available. you agree, we need ten times as many. this is something you want to do every day or every other day. 150 million is a minor amount to what we needed in our country. >> i wanted to ask you this, top u.s. infectious diseases expert dr. anthony fauci has voiced his concern about false and misleading information being given to mr. trump by dr. scott atlas. president trump is following his advice on masks, herd immunity, how concerned are you? >> almost all medical experts believe that as we look at our numbers of deaths in the u.s., that if everyone was wearing masks on a regular basis, we

would have saved 70,000 more lives, that's 7-0. then herd immunity. new data in the last 24 to 48 hours shows we only have 9% of our population, which has had contact or has been infected with the disease. you need 65 to 70% of the population. the amount of death that would be coming from herd immunity would be just astronomical. any expert would look at these data points and say he is so far wrong it would only lead to more americans dieing, which we don't want to see. >> no, definitely not. doctor, covid-19 deaths have topped 1 million a closs the globe. the u.s. leads all other nations claiming more than 20% of those deaths despite representing only 4% of the global population. how is it possible the richest nation in the world has failed to beat this? >> i think most of us believe it comes like any failure, whether

it's in business or in sports, it comes from the top. it comes from leadership. we would all point our fingers at the cdc. of course you see the revolving door in washington. we have not sent a clear message to every state. almost every state is doing something different and they're not following best practices. look across the world. we have about five major countries who have been so successful. the roadmap was there for our country to look at whether it was south korea, or singapore, our countries that were really successful. how did they do it? broad leadership at the top. that explained what practice is. they did it with testing. they did it with testing that was ramped up so quickly. they did it with quarantine and isolation which we're not doing enough of. i think it comes from leadership and we still see across the country as your reports showed at the top of the hour, look how many states where the numbers are going up. we are not doing enough to get the word out and enforce the

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welcome back. the man dubbed russia's propagandist in chief is giving cnn a look at what the kremlin may be thinking about the u.s. election. matthew chance joins us live. he just met with dmitry

kisielyev. what all did he reveal to you? >> reporter: well, very interesting conversation it was. you very much get a sense from state media that the on tow mission that once surrounded. >> it was a very nice offer and i could have said thank you. >> this video on its english

language channel promoting coverage shows trump as the loser taking on a job as a top russian news anchor. >> i said, i'll take it. >> it's a humorous jab at trump's apparent affection for russia, but the country's actual top state news anchor isn't laughing. first ever u.s. tv interview, the man dubbed the kremlin's chief propagandist tells me how hopes of blossoming u.s. russian relations under president trump have vanished. >> russia has never had as many sanctions as it has under trump. not a single state visit to russia or to the united states. >> reporter: is it your hope that if president trump wins a second term, that things will change, that he might be able to have a more positive relationship with moscow?

>> nothing will change. that's america. >> reporter: but actually things might change. >> going to be a price to pay, and putin knows the reason he doesn't want me as president, he knows me and he knows i mean it. >> reporter: and sanctions by the e.u. for spreading kremlin propaganda tells me a hard line biden presidency could plunge u.s./russian relations into a dangerous spiral. >> what will he do? go to war against us? no way to win. >> but he said that he would. >> let me repeat. russia is the only country in the world with a capability to turn america into ash. >> reporter: with its vast nuclear arsenal, that might be true. on the flagship current affairs show, it's how america's already destroying itself. it's dominating coverage, the

chaos shows the u.s. has lost its moral leadership, he says. the kremlin accused by the u.s. intelligence of sewing discord, that may be a victory itself no matter who the next president may be. >> if you are forced to choose between a trump presidency or biden presidency, which would you go for? >> i would like to throw a coin. nothing changes. nothing will change. >> reporter: rosemary, that sense that nothing will change does not mean that russia is not trying to influence the outcome of the november elections. they're saying russia is continuing to try to medal in those elections to favor trump and to put joe biden down. back to you. >> matthew chance, many thanks for bringing us that exclusive report. well, the u.s. election is

just five weeks away, and president trump is doing his best to throw the results into doubt. his false claims about voter fraud or rigged elections have democrats making their own plans to meet any challenge. cnn's avery phillip explains. >> reporter: as the president continues to cast doubt over the legitimacy of an election that is just over a month away -- >> this is going to be a disaster. >> reporter: democratic officials tell cnn an army of lawyers are preparing for a wide range of election scenarios that trump has floated. >> we have an advantage if we go back to congress. does everyone understand that? >> reporter: a disputed electoral college result could put the fate of the election in the hands of the new house of representatives elected in november with each state delegation getting one vote. republicans have a 26-22 advantage. speaker nancy pelosi is ready

for this possibility. >> i've been working on this for a while. i've been working on almost every scheme he might have to steal the election. >> reporter: sending a letter to her caucus urging them to focus winning in november and flipping the senate writing we must achieve that majority of delegations or keep the republicans from doing so. trump has also floated the idea of an election in the supreme court like bush v gore. >> i think this will end up in the supreme court and i think it's important we have nine judges. >> reporter: one of the justices is making his fear of trump clear in a rare letter to colleagues saying trump is a threat to democracy giving one real solution. >> there will not be a problem if the democrats win the senate and biden wins the presidency.

the problem will result if there is continued to be a divide between the house and the senate. >> reporter: trump falsely claiming voter fraud is rampant tweeting the ballots being returned to states cannot be accurately counted. many things are already going very wrong. but the president has been building a case against absentee ballots or mail-in voting for months, none of which is based on facts. widespread voter fraud is largely nonexistent in the united states. >> it's very dangerous for a country. >> reporter: there are real risks for the country. they've issued the latest warning. they caution the public to be weary about hacked voter data and compromised election infrastructure. today courts in new york and pennsylvania ordered the post

office to stop policy changes that would slow down the mail echoing last week's settlement with the post office forcing it to prioritize election mail. and just ahead, donald trump's taxes and what voters are thinking. >> i just think that's wonderful. >> i was shocked. >> i'm struggling. i'm struggling this year. supporters cheer, critics boo and we will even hear from a rare undecided voter at this point. back in a moment. of enzymes t dad, rid-x cs proven to break down even paper to keep your whole septic system healthy. for paper, grease or waste breakdown. use rid-x. rowithout the commission fees and account minimums. so, you can start investing wherever you are - even on the bus. download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood.

we turn to california now where two new wildfires are quickly becoming a bigger problem. the glass fire tripled in size from sunday to monday. it ripped through the state's napa valley destroying the vineyards and homes and for some the reality of the damage hasn't set in yet. >> hard to put into words right

now. it's just -- you know, i mean, you can't think about it until it's over and then when you just kind of look back and reflect on it, then you realize how crazy it is. right now it's just about doing what needs to be done. >> meanwhile, the zogg fire north of sacramento doubled in size. three people have died. firefighters haven't been able to contain either of these fires so far. california isn't the only u.s. state at risk. "the new york times" reports that all major fires on the west coast have made for the worst fire season on record. the report says possible arson in addition to outdated forest management practices have been the cause of some fires. also at fault is climate change which has made for dryer conditions and a longer fire season providing the perfect canvass for blazes across the country. all right. i want to return now to the

revelations now about donald trump's taxes reported by "the new york times." democrats are already using the story in attack ads accusing the president of looking down on the american people. will voters even care? cnn's martin savidge has our report. >> reporter: at the marietta diner in suburban, atlanta, a bombshell of trump's tax returns isn't on the menu but it is on the minds of voters. >> that's just a matter of how he runs his business. >> reporter: the latest polling in georgia before the news broke showed the race between trump and joe biden a dead heat could he only pay $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and '17 tilt the balance in biden's favor. >> would that make an impact on your judgment of the man? >> the man? the man is not perfect, i know that. i'm not perfect, but i think he's accomplished a whole lot.

>> reporter: one look at ira pence shows you who he supports and he thinks trump's taxes is a good thing. >> i just think that's wonderful. i'm working very hard in trying to pay as little taxes as is legal. >> reporter: and the waitress doesn't believe the news at all. >> and here we go again. once again, it's -- first of all, it's from "the new york times." >> reporter: but at a nearby booth nancy mucharia is furious. >> i was shocked. >> reporter: originally from cannon, she's a software engineer who said she worked three jobs to get through college and points out trump often depicts immigrants as cheating the system. >> we have a lot of immigrants in this country that work very hard and to pay their taxes. >> reporter: trump's campaign communications director calls "the new york times" reporting on the president's tax returns completely inaccurate.

retired business teacher lamuriel adams shows he's no financial genius. >> it's allowed. i worry about that. the young people, i don't know what they think. >> reporter: polls show trump support from white suburban woman in 2020 is not kw50i9 what it was. she is staying the same unphase i by her not proving to be the successful businessman he claims to be? >> you can look at it that way. i don't think it would be a measure he's not a successful businessman. >> reporter: deanna sloane is something remarkably rare, undecided. >> i'm struggling. i'm struggling this year. >> reporter: sloane says tuesday's presidential debate could be the deciding factor. as for trump's taxes -- it doesn't appear that this is necessarily a deal breaker?

>> no. i wish i could say that it was, but it's not. >> reporter: it's worth pointing out all the people that we talked to for this story, almost no one was surprised by the information about trump's tax returns. they say they don't believe it or they consider insignificant while those opposed to the president say they suspected all along he had financial difficulties or regularities. martin savidge, cnn, marietta, georgia. and coming up, france is seeing a drastic increase in icu patients from coronavirus. now the country's imposing new closures that are sparking protests. a live report from paris next. i love audible because it's changed my life for the better.

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effect. boris johnson is being urged to make all teaching online after 1700 students had to self-isolate at a manchester university due to an outbreak. in southern france health officials say covid-19 admissions and intensive care admissions have tripled. melissa bell joins me live from paris. good to see you, melissa. what is the latest on the situation across france? >> reporter: the worst hit so far for the main land france. this is also the first overseas territory of the caribbean in the middle of marseilles. we have the tightest restrictions seen. as of tuesday night bars and restaurants closed altogether trying to bring the covid-19

figures down. they will be entering the maximum alert category shortly because the three criteria that decide whether it should or not have either been reached or are at the point of being reached. it remains in the hands of the health minister what you're likely to see, is paris going the same territory as marseilles. at a time across europe you're seeing the tightening of restrictions being contested by business leaders, by business owners, by politicians, opposition politicians and in the case of germany and holland in the past few weeks, by people in the streets. it is with greater resistance that this ever tightening series of regulations is being met and as authorities say about paris, it is once again as it was during the first wave, allowing icus to be able to cope with the latest wave to ensure that the health system can manage to

sustain what it needs to in order to help people get better. again, with that very political decision being made every time about how much of a hit a region needs to take to make sure that can happen. >> melissa bell, thank you very much. appreciate it. so just how did we get to 1 million covid-19 deaths in just nine short months? here's a look back at what seems like a lifetime ago. >> a mysterious new cluster of pneumonia cases is raising concerns here and across asia. >> reporter: the illness is believed to have originated in wuhan, the city of china. they expect this wildlife and seafood market is the source. the number of cases continues to rise, inside china and outside. cases confirmed in japan, south korea and tai land. >> they are raising the alert level to its highest right now in response to the outbreak of

the virus. >> reporter: in a race to move to -- iran is the hardest hit. across europe as the coronavirus outbreak worsens, authorities are imposing ever stricter measures. in france, residents already under lockdown and being warned about the worst. >> reporter: 6,000 people have died. spain has more than china and more than twice as many deaths. >> reporter: hospitals are making desperate appeals for equipment and personnel with cities and communities under lockdown, videos emerge to residents taking to their balconies to cheer medical workers. in france, denmark, spain, switzerland, peru and elsewhere. >> the outbreak is stretching resources to their limits. >> reporter: in new york

governor andrew cuomo announced the state will be producing hand sanitizer for the agencies and school in a wake of examples, we ordered to sheltering in place. >> time square nearly updates just one snapshot of 9 new normal. >> stay at home order still spreading in ohio, louisiana, connecticut, indiana, west virginia, michigan among the recent additions. new york state now home to around 1/2 the confirmed cases in this country. >> there are now more than 100 countries, territories with confirmed cases according to the world health organization. >> it's been another difficult weekend with 33 countries reporting more than 2 million confirmed cases. >> brazil on saturday announced they had 1,000 new deaths and

this is tragically something that is becoming more and more frequent. >> bill gates warning of a long road ahead, even after a vaccine is approved. >> the end of the epidemic best case is probably 2022. unmistakable spike in new infection. >> reporter: los angeles the latest city to see a spike in cases, tripling in less than a week. >> as the u.s. reaches another grim milestone, 200,000 lives lost to coronavirus, signs of the must feared fall surge in cases is already here. >> shocking. we've all learned that the key to this is wear a mask. let's do that. thanks for your company. i'm rosemary church. "early start" is up next. have a great day. want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements...

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donald trump and joe biden go head to head tonight, their first presidential debate is now finally here. >> troubling questions about trump's crushing debts exposed by "the new york times." could they be used as leverage against him and the nation? welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm laura jarrett. 5 a.m. here in new york. exactly five weeks to election day. now nothing has been normal about campaigning in the middle of the pandemic. tonight both candidates