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america's back to the office experiment is gaining steam and working from home is still a big piece of the coronavirus experience. stanford university is con dupgting a rolling study of this issue. 36% of americans reported working from home in august down from 42% in may. flip side, 37% of americans reported being back at the place of work last month, that up from 26% in may. 27% responded they are not working at all. a high number but down from the 33% who said that in may. hello to the viewers in the united states and around the world. thank you so much for sharing your day with us. it is presidential debate night in america. exactly five weeks from election day. the coronavirus pandemic will shape how americanins vote a toc tonight. the trend in a troublesome direction. in new york city the mayor says he may close nonessential
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businesses because the positivity rate is again above 3%. there's a messy public fight with white house scientists. the president insists we have rounded the final turn. joe biden insists things remain bleak. the president and democrat will share a stage in ohio. this is the pandemic campaign in a year like no other. we are 35 days to election day. this debate is a 90-minute national platform to rally supporters and try to persuade those that are not locked in on a candidate. the incumbent is an underdog. the race tilts decidedly joe biden's way. polling reinforces that advantage and underscores the president's debate and final week's challenge. without pennsylvania the path to 270 electoral votes not impossible but it is highly improbable. we know this. the president does things his way, meaning he wings it.
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and debates apparently are no exception. the white house team said the president spent little time in formal debate prep, roughly two hours. let's go to cleveland now and kaitlan collins. the burden heavily on then couplen' -- the incumbent. >> reporter: presidents in the past struggle in the first debate and saw it when barack obama debated mitt romney and the advantage is not the president's tonight and the aides hoping it's a chance for the president to make up some ground because for the last several weeks, of course, you have seen the polls coming out where in these key states that the president needs to win he is not gaining ground like the advisers hoped he would. they're looking for that tonight but they have not spent a lot of time preparing for that and most has to do less with the president's advisers and staff and more with the candidate himself resisting what
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candidates do before a debate like this with a formal mock debate and somebody plays joe biden or someone plays donald trump and pretend like they're on the stage. the president did not do that and instead done the sporadic question and answer sessions with people like chris christie, rudy giuliani, and other campaign staffers and white house staffers. and that is really been the president's preferred method of getting ready saying that his daily preparations by being at work is enough to prepare him. of course, he is not a typical candidate, never has been, wasn't in 2016. but in 2016, i was speaking with someone that helped the president with debate prep back then, john, saying that he was resistant to doing it before the first debate and then after when that "access hollywood" tape came out he was in the middle of debate prep because he wanted to start it then. whether or not the way he prepares changes it remains to
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be seen but this will be the first time to see the two candidates on stage together and the president's team preparing him with the one liners, questions of son hunter and will come up they say here in cleveland tonight in a few hours, john. >> nine hours from now. they begin 90-minute debate. grateful for the live reporting. behind the curtain perspective of veterans. democrat karen finney, republican michael steele. karen, the 2016 debates between donald trump and hillary clinton, the general election debates, came after we saw a very unconventional style and successful style for donald trump and the republican primary debates and when facing off with hillary clinton we got what we've become used to, sometimes the president seems to be rambling and still makes the
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point. listen. >> the birth certificate produced in 2011. you continue to question the president's legitimacy in 2012, '13, '14, '15. >> yeah. >> what do you say to americans -- >> i say nothing. i have very, very good relationships over the last little while with the african-american community. i think you can see that. and i feel that they really wanted me to come to that conclusion and i think i did a great job and a great service not only for the country but even for the president in getting him to produce his birth certificate. >> he has stuck to that, that the whole episode and getting the birth certificate a great service to the country. >> right. but now we are in a moment, john, where people are taking to the streets in a moment of racial reckoning and the feeling is that this president is not doing anything to bring us together, to heal this country and when i talk to voters in
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focus groups across the country, the man they want to see on a stage tonight is the commander in chief trying to heal the nation, they recognize his actions frankly of like we saw in portland sending federal resources there was not helpful so the style is not going to work when americans are in the middle of a crisis. >> michael, the vice presidential debates do not get as much attention but give those debating national tv exposure, let's go back. this is october 11, 2012. paul ryan trying to make a point and then joe biden saying, wait a minute. >> i have never met two guys more down on america across the board. get out of the way. stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. show me a policy. show me a policy where you take responsibility and by the way, they talk about this great recession. like it fell out of the sky. where did it come from?
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it came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card. >> what did you learn from that experience about joe biden the debater? >> i think it's important to remember the context there. the reason that joe biden kind of took the uncle joe act to 11 is because president obama did so badly in the first presidential debate. president trump seems to be repeating every error of an incumbent president not doing the prep, not taking the opponent seriously and joe biden is a very, very experienced debater. he's done this more often than anyone in american public life. at this point if he walks out on stage, puts a mirror under the nostrils and proves that he's alive and knows it he's exceeded what the president sets out for. >> i think the test is higher than that but i get your point. the president saying he can't stay up late and both gave
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convention speeches that went after 11:00 at night. joe biden had more energy than the president. karen, michael, one thing we know from the president's approach to secretary clinton in 2012 is it's personal and slashing. this is a debate over character. >> it is not only women and this video that raidses questions of fitness to be our president, he's targeted immigrants, african-americans, latinos, people with disabilities, p.o.w.s, muslims. >> bill clinton was abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked the same women and viciously. i think it's disgraceful and she should be ashamed of herself if you want to know the truth. >> karen, this is part of a trademark trump strategy that's important to think about going
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into tonight that joe biden is leading in the race and what he does when the character is questioned instead of almost defending himself he says the other person is just as bad or worse. >> yes, he does this sort of muddy the waters and we certainly saw it in 2016 and frankly already in this cycle with attempts to try to mislead about what was happening with hunter biden and vice president biden so vice president biden absolutely needs to be prepared for that. one of the biggest challenges, a similar challenge that hillary faced in 2016 is to not get drawn into the personal attacks and the drama, a distraction from what biden needs to do tonight to both try to hold trump accountable for his abysmal record and incompetence on covid and then put forward the positive plan. when we prep people, right, it is about how much time you have to make your case and you have to make sure that you are using
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every single minute very judiciously. >> so one of the -- you analyze the debate moments and people that work in washington, believe there's a professional way to do this, they see president trump's debate answers and find word salad and nonsensical but, michael, you listen to most of the president's answer and what is he talking about but let's listen because he does manage to sneak in a point. >> if they don't start treating us fairly and stop devaluing and let their currency rise so our companies can compete and we don't lose all of the millions of jobs that we lose i would start taxing goods that come in from china. who the hell has to lose $505 billion a year? >> i'm sorry, sir. you lost but i do want to understand this. >> it's not that complicated, actually.
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i have many friends that deal with china. they can't deal -- they don't want the product. when they finally get the product it is taxed and if you look at what happened with boeing and with so many companies that deal, so we don't have an equal playing field. >> it's kind of all over the place there. neil cavuto is trying to challenge him. the point is he got in boeing right up the road given the neighborhood that it might sound nuts but he is making a point. >> yeah. he talked about not prepping. i suspect he is actually underestimating the amount of time he spent in prep on this debate. he likes to pretend he wings it but in north charleston he was ready with an answer that worked for him and made an effective point for him about why the jobs in the area wouldn't be lost as a result of the trade war he was promising to inflict on the american people. >> another big flashback and then explain your stakes for
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tonight but i want people to understand these are two guys we have met in 2016 campaign and joe biden's debate styles. >> john mccain has been the consummate maverick in the senate over all the years. >> can i respond? the maverick john mccain. i love him. been a maverick but not what matters to people's lives. >> that's a bunch of malarkey. >> why? >> not a single said he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. here's the deal. >> what does that mean? >> simply inaccurate. >> irish. >> it is. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> your husband signed nafta, one of the worst things that ever happened to the manufacturing industry. >> that is your opinion. >> go to new england, ohio, pennsylvania, anywhere you want, secretary clinton, see devastation. people have been -- their lives have been destroyed for doing one fifth of what you have done
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and it is a disgrace and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. >> karen finney, i expect the ethics issue to come up and question joe biden and hunter biden and the like but won't have nasty women. how different is the dynamic to debate a man? >> much different. the body language will communicate different things and watching for different things watching two men. with hillary we were thinking how would she hold her own with trump? he is as we saw in that one very iconic example menacing her around the stage, that communicated a lot about him not just through what was being said and in this instance i think what we'll see is two men in their nice suits trying to make their arguments and i think what you will see from biden is an attempt to be competent, calm leader for the troubled times. that is a very different dynamic
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than what we had in 2016 and he has a very different task than what hillary had. >> and, michael, for the president when you are behind in the battleground state polls, you need to change the dynamic of the race, can you do that talking about yourself or is the president's only choice and often a preference to tear down the other guy? >> right. if this is a referendum he loses. it is a choice and got to swing for the fences with probably what's going to be nasty, personal attacks on the vice president, attacking his surviving son and that biden will gaffe, make a mistake, prove himself incompetent or senile. >> that's the president's bet and less than nine hours away. appreciate the insights from both of you. there it is right now. watch the first presidential debate on cnn beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern.
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this just in to us, mayor of new york city warning of an inflection point. the mayor calling the numbers, quote, cause for real concern adding the city will be taking serious action, what does he mean? cnn's alexander field is joining us on this. >> he means that further restrictions could be implemented and warning people to sit up and pay attention to the numbers. a single data point causing concern with state and city leaders. a 3.2% positivity rate but it's positive tests on a single day, the important number to keep an eye on is the 7-day rolling average, the 7-day rolling average right now even with the up tick at 1.38% and doesn't
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necessarily trigger a shutdown, the threshold for closing schools is 3%. we are not there yet but this is the week that the majority of students in the nation's largest school district return for in-person learning in the classrooms and the city doesn't want to see them have to shut back down so we know that they're going to take some action, flooding the city with testing, focusing specifically on nine zip codes out of 146 zip codes in the city where they see an uptick in cases, referred to as the brooklyn/queens cluster. people in the zip codes are encouraged to get tested and the governor said he'll send 200 rapid testing many sheens throughout new york city, largely targeting those affected zip codes available for schools to request so that students can be tested. john? >> very important development. grateful for the quick hustle on reporting there.
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a rare event at the white house, a meeting of the coronavirus task force amid a messy disagreement. several of the scientists not happy the president is listening to the newest member of the task force, dr. scott atlas and dr. birx is central to new reporting showing how the white house put pressure on the cdc to try to get the cdc to play down the risks of reopening schools this fall. more in a moment but let's look at the latest numbers. 23 states trending up. more new infections this week compared to the data a week ago. you see across the plains and out into the west where the states are, not the most populous states but look at that, 23 states, 20 holding steady. seven states at the moment trending down. just want to highlight georgia, florida, texas and arizona were a big part of the summer surge
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in cases and this week reporting newer new infections than a week ago. again the trouble is in the less populous states across the plains and the prairie. the state testing rate, the positivity rate, you just heard a slight uptick in new york to 3%. it is 21% in idaho. 25% highest in the country in south dakota. you see it in the teens. 16 in kansas. 11 in florida. arizona down to 5. you want to get it to five and shove it down. one of the issues right now not just the politics of the pressure on the cdc is now is this back to school experiment going? four states require in-person, some, k-12 instruction. not every day but some. iowa, arkansas, florida and texas. two holding steady in the case count at the moment. texas and florida down in the case count at the moment.
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there's controversy now, olivia troy worked for the president, a key aide on the task force and said the president wasn't up to the challenge, wasn't taking seriously the pandemic. she said the white house task force put pressure on the cdc, play down the risks of sending kids back to school. >> what i saw firsthand was a lot of manipulation of the data trying to figure out how to tell a story that was less grim than the reality really was. it was people within the white house specifically tasking more junior level staff to try to find alternate data, data that fit the narrative they wanted which was it only affects people above the age of 75 and doesn't affect younger school children to open up the schools, open them up now. >> let's get more from cnn's nick valencia. nick? >> reporter: john, we know that
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from the beginning of the pandemic speaking to sources at the center for disease control and prevention they were sidelined by the white house and work within the margins set by the white house and fallen victim to the politics of washington. we have seen it with director dr. robert redfield, walking a fine line with president trump and another example. olivia troye worked for vice president mike pence, she was part of the white house coronavirus task force and described a situation that was a nightmare she said. she said in june she was pressured with junior staffers by mark short the chief of staff for vice president pence to find data that supported the president's mission to safely reopen schools. she says that this pressure was just continuing to happen all along. listen to what she said last night to cnn's chris cuomo. >> well, i think you have seen from the beginning the
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president's narrative is everything is fine, normal, let's get the economy going again. he told the governors to open the schools. you need to try to make it seem like everything's okay when in reality it's not and i think it's because this response is so broken along the way that it was anything to tell anything but the truth. >> reporter: john, i spoke to an official that was part of the safely reopening schools guidance at the cdc. they told me that they believed at the time that the science was there. however, they did say that the president, the comments that he was making publicly, were clearly challenging to the cdc professionals working on that guidance behind the scenes. john? >> dynamic we have talked about far too much i guess. the president trying to influence the science. important reporting, thank you so much. also weighing on the coronavirus task force is dr. scott atlas, a neuro
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radiologist. yet he has the ear of the president and concern he feeds the president misleading information on covid-19. two key members avoided calling him out by name when asked by cnn about turmoil in the group. >> we agree on the great majority of things but whether it's dr. atlas and dr. birx or me and dr. fauci and dr. redfield, there's a diversity of opinions. i think that's very important because science is not black and white. >> these news stories of atlas and redfield get to the question are the medical voices on the task force working or working against each other. >> well, most are working together. i think you know what the outlier is. >> joining us now is brian stelter. let's just make it clear. i get it. to someone who's watching you
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know who the outlier is. dr. fauci tries to be a diplomat. some days are better than other but the tension is very real and we can laugh about it as a keystone cops moment but there are lives at stake. >> fauci doesn't like to have the disputes in the press but they're visible to everyone and why i brought it up with him. i said to him you're helping keep the american penal healtop healthy. what changed this year on this pandemic? he brought up misinformation and fox news. he said on fox there are opposing perspectives of facts. here's more. >> i mean, i think if you listen to fox news, you know, with all due respect to the fact that they do have some good reporters, some of the things they report there from outlandish to be honest with you. >> a regular on fox news, dr. scott atlas. i brought up the controversy.
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fauci did not say his name but called him an outlier. atlas was on fox news last night. >> to a degree it proves the point and be fair to dr. atlas and listen to some of that, brian. >> i think that this is all if what that says is really said it is all about delegitimizing the president and the narrative of the president not listening to the science or the sicientists. i can trance mate the science into public policy. there's certain experts say what i just said which is vulnerable people protection and save lives by also opening up society safely and there are other experts that say things like, no, you shouldn't wear masks but a mask is better than a vaccine or some other expert says you shouldn't wear mask and then yes
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we should and everyone should wear goggles. you won't hear me say that. >> he says quite plainly i'm not here to make friends and mocking dr. redfield at the end. >> i'm not here to make friends is a reality tv trope. you are not supposed to hear it at the white house coronavirus task force, that is disturbing to talk in that way. the truth is that trump does want to hear from voices downplaying and denying the threat of the pandemic. hearing the voices downplaying it every day from the friends on fox so it is not a coincidence that atlas is there on fox and my takeaway is that the w throw this confusion, different people macking different recommend daises. public health communication 101 says be consistent, clear, calm and not what we are getting from the white house task force with
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atlas there as the outlier. >> this public messy debate sends mixed signals to people. very important time. 7.1 million cases. 205,000 dead americans. thank you for sharing your reporting with us. >> thank you. up next for us, new york city schools are reopening for elementary students today. week. not just any retinol. accelerated retinol sa. for not only smoother skin in one day, but younger-looking skin in just one week. and that's clinically proven. results that fast or your money back. unless you're attached to your wrinkles. one week is all it takes. neutrogena®.
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elementary schools in the nation's largest school district join the back to school experiment today in new york city offering the option for in-person classes or remote learning. ev evan mcmorris-santoro outside a school with the latest on the big day. >> reporter: i'm outside ps-89 in queens, the first time it was open for most of the students since march and the first day of school is very different than the one that was happening when the school closed down. parents showed up this morning and lined up in socially distant lines at different entrances for individual grades, they had to scan a qr code look this one, enter the student's health information and then the temperature was taken and the students let into the building by staff. it's all zedesigned to make
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everybody feel safe about going to school and parents feel comfortable we people feel weary, more and more parents have chosen online education instead of in-person education and at a press conference just moments ago the governor cuomo said if it doesn't look good he'll shut the schools down again. this experiment could be pretty short. >> the schools must report to the state the data. they're doing testing. the numbers will tell you the facts. and once you have the facts you can operate logically. if the schools are not safe i'm not going to allow them to operate. period. >> reporter: so look. it is obviously very early in this, hours into the attempt but with comments like the governor's and the parents not doing this, the school system
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listen. >> i've been concerned with the president's statements which i think are completely inappropriate but sometimes the reaction on the left or the opposition is just as bad. i think one point vice president biden saying that the joint chiefs of staff will march the president out. that's crazy talk. >> the comments come in the middle of the early stages of an unprecedented voting season, with a lot of mail-in. two states reporting issues. hiccups, small problems or anything to be worried about? >> reporter: we don't know yet. right now everything is a big question mark. there's two states that are dealing with mail-in voting eshss and the rest of the entire country is scrambling to prepare for the unprecedented election. start in pennsylvania. the republicans in that state are asking the supreme court of the quite to block a lower court
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decision to extend counting of absentee ballots by three days and to be clear those ballots would have to have been postmarked on election day or before but this was something brought forward by democrats as they have tried to kind of ease the restrictions on absentee ballots because of, one, the pandemic. they are expecting all of the mail-in ballots and because of widespread concern about the counting system and doesn't start to process until the day of the election. republicans say this is an open invitation for people to cast their ballots after the election which would lead to widespread chaos. but whatever the results are here, they are extremely sweeping consequences. we know that thousands of votes could be rejected or counted in a state that still is a critical swing state so one of these is wrapped up in the courts and other is an unfortunate mailing
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error. in new york voters received the wrong return ballot envelope so it's supposed to have your personal information, voter i.d. number, address, name but people got some other entirely different stranger's ballot return envelopes. the new york board of election said an error with a contractor to print and send them out but this is a very unfortunate error because we are at a point where president trump is casting doubt on the election system as a whole and you have a lot of people, democrats and republicans, who are very concerned about the integrity of the election so something just as small as that can really set people off. we do know that new york board of elections is meeting in about 30 minutes to talk this through so we'll keep you posted on that. >> kristen holmes, thank you so much for that. when everything is so closely scrutinized and attacked by the president in some cases, check before you put those things in the mail. thank you so much. up next, the global
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from the correspondents around the world. >> reporter: i'm matt rivers in mexico city, for the first time sense this pandemic began, the overall global coronavirus death toll has topped 1 million lives lost for the first time, that is a taggering number but i want to show you a graph. this is the latest figures when it comes to the 7-day moving average worldwide of newly confirmed deaths. that number remains quite high. the last time that an average of less than 5,000 deaths was recorded on 2 straight days you have to go back to july 15th and 16th. it shows you how serious this situation remains worldwide and the countries with the highest individual death tolls at this point begins with the united states followed by brazil, india and then mexico. >> reporter: i'm fred pleitgen in german where the chancellor
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is meeting with state governors to hash out new measures to put the bracks on a spike in novel coronavirus infections. media talking about a flurry of new measures including restrictions on number of people allowed to meet at gatherings to 25 in private gatherings and up to 50 in public gatherings and a talk of restrictions or even bans on alcohol sales in places where there are a lot of coronavirus infections. so far germany has gotten through the pandemic quite well but the german government said it is alarmed by the new di dynamic. >> reporter: i'm matthew chance in moscow and russia has announced another big deal to supply its as yet unproven vaccines sputnik-v. this time 25 million doses to the kingdom of nepal. the agreement means that 90% of nepal's population will have access to the russian vaccine not yet completed crucial phase
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possible movement today on capitol hill with the goal of breaking a bitter stalemate on a new stimulus deal. nancy pelosi and steve mnuchin have spoken several times in the last few daysen colluding just this morning. democrats releasing a latest plan last knight, a $2.2 trillion bill with a new round of stimulus payments but smaller than they wanted. cnn's manu raju tracking this for us live on capitol hill. are they making progress? >> reporter: they're very far apart and trying to reach a
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deal, this week, but there's a lot of skepticism to get there. a reason is the price tag. while pelosi and the democrats came forward with a $2.2 trillion plan that's down from the $3.4 trillion measure that passed the house in may. while it is down roughly $1.2 trillion it is higher than what republicans want, the senate republicans as you recall passed a bill worth $500 billion and not going anywhere near that trillion level and e aski asked pelosi if she will go below 2.2 trillion and she said it's for the american people but they're putting forward the plan to make some changes, within of which is for state and local funding, that had been a big sticking point. $1 trillion for state and local
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governments and extend jobless benefits to $600 a week, expired in july and the direct payments to certain individuals under an income level but the big question is can the two sides reach a deal? will that be enough for senate republicans to go along? could they bring moderate democrats as well as some of the liberal members pushing for something much more aggressive? it is very difficult to see that coming together but at the moment, john, they're talking at least after not having any discussion for weeks. john? >> talking but missing from the talks the white house chief of staff who's been the voice, mnuchin and pelosi do business. mark meadows gummed up the works a bit? >> reporter: yeah. mark meadows according to steny hoyer told us last week he didn't want mark meadows in the room but he will have to sign off on any deal with the president so a long to go before
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getting to that. >> thank you for spending your time with us. tomorrow we'll have a debate to talk about. bring and ye brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a good afternoon. hi there, i'm brianna keilar and i want to welcome our viewe viewers here in the united states and around the world. president trump and former vice president joe biden will finally meet tonight in the first one on one debate. these are live pictures from cleveland where the candidates will face off and where the coronavirus pandemic is impacting everything from how the candidates will greet each other to the traditional post-debate spin room circus. our correspondent arlette saenz is there in cleveland and tell us about the unusual evening we are about to see. >> reporter: it will be a presidential debate unlike any
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