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at the white house say they're negative. hope hicks is a positive and the west wing knew of her positive results before the president traveled to new jersey yesterday. republican senator mike lee who tested negative at the white house earlier this week today reports a positive test result, separately outside of washington the chairwoman of the national republican committee confirming she is positive for covid-19. the timing adds to the crisis atmosphere here. the public get wells and words of support of leading republicans, masking private worries that the president testing positive at this moment is a damning development in a campaign to defined by his mismanagement of the pandemic. cases are climbing in half the country, that's the red and orange across that map there. the daily new case number on thursday 43,000 new infections. the president is a part of the
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data. he repeatedly tells you to ignore. >> i just want to say that the end of the pandemic is in sight and next year will be one of the greatest years in the history of our country. >> we again the conversation this hour with white house correspondent kaitlan come listens, a doctor from the johns hop conditions center of security and nia-malika henderson. the chief of staff coming out to tell us the president has mild symptoms and on the phone and on the job. what more do we know? >> reporter: it was notable that it was the chief of staff that came out to give that brief update to reporters because, of course, typically we see the press secretary as we did yesterday and there were questions raised about what she knew when she came out to brief reporters yesterday since we now know that a small group of officials were aware that hope hicks tested positive for coronavirus and we're told the press secretary was not aware of
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that positive diagnosis with that briefing. several didn't know until later on last night, really notable because what mark meadows said is they found out when the president was leaving to go to a fund-raiser yesterday at the new jersey club. that hope hicks had tested positive for coronavirus. despite that finding that out at 1:00 p.m. marine one went on to joint base andrews and the president got on air force one and traveled with staff to new jersey where he was not wearing a mask in that fund-raiser. despite the fact they knew he had come in contact with someone that tested positive and raising questions not just what the president said in the past of wearing a mask and flouted the rules and precautions that experts said you should take but the chain of command inside the white house and when everyone found out that a colleague that they interact with in a cramped
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west wing tested positive for coronavirus and now dealing with the fallout and now the president and the first lady both have mild symptoms, other lawmakers also tested positive, people who have interacted with the supreme court nominee and whatnot and a lot of questions raised of course about the level of spread that's happened here, where it started and the level of contact tracing they're doing to try to in some shape or form con tan this. >> doctor, help us understand the scope, the complexity of that challenge. we have had this conversation after clusters at meat packing plants, after coronavirus outbreaks as people go back to college campuses, this is the highest levels of the united states government, members of congress, leadership of the president's campaign team, west wing workers, military aides, the secret service, people he came in contact with at the debate, the political rallies. put in context the enormity of the tracing challenge here. >> we know that even just a
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contact trace in a simple household get-together can be complicated. when you think about the contacts of these individuals, how long they were in contact with people, how many masked, not masked, what the time frames were between negative and positive tests, it is very hard to do that and impossible to understand what's going on unless you have the data in front of you and this virus doesn't care what types of precautions you put in place because it finds a way in and you have to be very, very careful even with the testing regimen of the white house. it is not surprising that this virus found a hole and infected the national security adviser in the past and what we continue to see until we have an outbreak that's under much better control in the community because people from the white house do interact with the community and can bring it boo the white house like anywhere. >> a very important point that the virus can find a hole but it is easier for the virus to find a hole when you repeatedly ignored the advice of your own
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top scientists. i want to play a collection here. we know the president for weeks and months mocked mask use, they think it's a bad look inside the west wing 'shows you are defensive with a crisis. this is the president's team just recently. >> face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take a covid vaccine. >> this is a critical moment that we all have to double down on the mask wearing and avoiding indoor crowded spaces. >> i was out there telling the american public how difficult this is, how we have a serious problem, urgand the president s it's something that will disappear which is not the case. >> it's important to say over and of and over and over again we wish the president well and a speedy recovery and just a fact, it is just a fact that his behavior, the way he conducted himself in recenter days and weeks is contrary to the advice
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of his own experts. >> we pray for the president and the first lady and the folks that may end up testing positive. but it is also true that the president in many ways with his behavior and rhetoric open the door to the white house to this virus and remember the white house is both a place of business, a workplace, also a residence. if you think about the people that come to work every day, they were left very vulnerable because it was the president who didn't really like the look of masks. he thought masks were essentially ugly and didn't want folks around him wearing them so that's the kind of environment that was created and listen. a virus is always looking for a host and this ends up happening. again, thoughts and prayers to everyone who might end up being affected by this and the folks already are but the president did himself no favors and the
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people that people that work around him. he is their boss and he set a real i think leadership pattern and they followed because that is what they thought that this president wanted and same with supporters, same with his family members that went to the debate and were asked to put on masks and apparently refused because that is what the sort of trump way was in terms of wearing masks. maybe it will change and this might be a wake-up call for the white house and the administration. we certainly hope so because, you know, americans whole over since march have been changing their way of life in terms of masks. i have a mask right here. when i go out into the hallway in cnn i'm getting the temperature checked and the idea that this white house was so sort of lackadaisical in the approach to folks coming to work every day, they essentially seem to think that the testing mechanism made them immune somehow and obviously we find
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out today sadly that that wasn't the case for the president, for the first lady and the folks in the white house. >> what are we expecting, kaitlan? you have to give any white house some grace. you have a crisis involving the health of the president of the united states but some point both in terms of the operations of the united states government and voters to make a choice 32 days about an election you need transparency. we have a letter the white house doctor overnight confirming the positive tests and saying they would stay in the residence. listen to the chief of staff at the white house a short time ago saying that the president has mild symptoms and asked to put the timelo line together and he mostly declined. >> i'm not going to get boo the tick -- into the tick tock. in terms of hope hicks, we discovered that right as the marine one was taking off yesterday. we actually pulled some of the
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people that had been traveling and in close contact. we had already started the contact tracing just prior to that. event. >> he says they pulled some aides off the helicopter but didn't cancel the trip and put the president back inside. he was in contact with hope hicks. getting on the helicopter, traveling to new jersey in direct violation of the own team's guidelines. >> reporter: this is a example of how not to handle this situation. someone in contact with people, people despite believing that hope hicks was symptomatic on wednesday night, they came to work yesterday. we know what happened after she was tested and the president continued to go to the fund-raiser and giving the white house grace and the chief of staff giving regular updates, took three questions from reporters there and he said he wasn't going to get into the tick tock meaning the time line and usually important for them to know who came into contact
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with whom. we should remind viewers they did not tell the reporters who were also on air force one with hope hicks on wednesday that a staffer tested positive. they don't have to reveal the identity. a lot of reporters found out from the media last night and people working inside the white house found out from when it was first reported by bloomberg last night that hicks had tested positive so we would not -- we don't know if we would know if it wasn't first reported by the media and by the press because the white house had not been forthcoming about that at all and then of course waiting on the president to get tested last night and then did eventually tweet out that he was positive and didn't have another option because he revealed that he had undergone testing and making a decision about whether or not to travel to florida today and waiting to see what the repercussions of this are but
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they have not been clear and forthcoming about this because this is obviously a very serious matter. >> kaitlan collins at the white house, grateful for the reporting and insights and expertise. the president of the united states is a coronavirus patient. we'll lo we' we'll look into the treatment options.
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more now on the president of the united states and first lady testing positive for coronavirus. the white house confirming the president has mild symptoms and the first lady tweeting she is experiencing mild symptoms of covid-19. let's bring in senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. what are the treatment options and are they different for the president and the first lady? >> john, let's talk a little bit about the president's health status. he is 74 years old and putts him in the elderly group, the highest risk of complications from covid-19. he weighs 244 pounds which means
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he is clinically obese, that is another risk factor of complications and treated for high cholesterol. now let's look at treatments. when someone has mild to moderate illness, the president and his wife said to have mild illness, you take medications just for fever, for pain, just is the symptoms. you are just helping with the symptoms. if the illness is so bad it requires hospitalization then there are other hopgss, remdesivir, an iv anti-viral drug, convalescent plasma, blood products from people that recovered to get their antibodies and steroids. but again, to emphasize, we are nowhere near those options. from what we have been told this is mild disease and we wouldn't be near the options just yet. >> we know from past history the whole hydroxychloroquine debate. that has been largely debunked but are there other treatments discussed, proposed, maybe undergoing trials?
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can the president say i want that, something that most patients can't get yet? >> you know it is interesting. he doesn't have to raise his hand because some of the drugs studied are available. his doctor could prescribe them or over the counter so if he chose to he or his doctor could go get them. there is some and what i think you are thinking of that are experimental, not used for anything else and just developed for covid-19 so his doctor could call up the pharmaceutical company and say, hey, i got this special patient, his name is donald trump, he wants to try the drug that you are studying and i can't get it. it would be difficult to think that that farm supharmaceuticaly would say no. >> elizabeth cohen, grateful for the reporting on that. the president is now a covid patient, also a candidate seeking re-election.
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united states at the debate. the president is positive for the coronavirus. jessica dean in grand rapids, michigan. jessica? >> reporter: that's right. they have released a statement from the biden primary care physician, dr. kevin o'connor. vice president joe biden and dr. jill biden underwent testing for covid-19 today and covid-19 was not detected. i'm reporting this out in my capacity as both vice president biden and dr. biden's primary care physician. that was verbatim, the statement from the biden cam ppaign this afternoon. both were tested this morning after finding out about the trump's diagnosis and we know that the biden campaign was not given any heads up by the trump campaign or the white house they had potential exposure. i am here in grand rapids, michigan. vice president biden was scheduled to be here at 1:20 american time for remarks and
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have some campaign events and waiting to here -- he will not make it here by 1:20 and waiting to hear what they'll do with that trip as it's delayed by many hours awaiting the test results but the top line, vice president biden negative for covid. the same for jill biden, as well. john? >> jessica dean on the ground for us with the breaking news in grand rapids, thank you. now jeff zeleny, national political correspondent jonathan martin. in this year of disruption, this is a huge disruption. the president positive for covid-19. 32 days from an election in which he tried repeatedly to turn people away from the pandemic, to try to get them to look elsewhere, look at joe biden, look at protests across america. it is going to be very hard now under quarantine in the white house to turn voters' attention
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anywhere else. >> i'd make two points to you. this is an extraordinary year, a year filled with tumult but not impacted the contours of the cam pawn. the campaign has proven impervious almost to outside events. joe biden has had a lead effectively since march and has not changed despite the events of the last six months and i think it's not clear to me that this is going to change anything given how dug in people are in their corners, red and blue. this is an order of magnitude more extraordinary. a sitting president a month out from the election being diagnosed with a very serious disease? so there is uncertainty and the last thing i would say four years ago we had an october surprise that we all thought was going to reshape the election and perhaps lock in the election. it was the "access hollywood" tape and it was not the last
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october surprise. we have 32 days to go, john. >> that is important to remember. >> more to come. >> we have 32 days to go and the words i don't know not spocken a lot in washington need to be spoken a lot. we don't know how it plays out. jeff zeleny, it will disrupt things. a rally in florida, two in wisconsin orr the weekend, canceled. still on the skl for arizona next week most likely to be canceled. the vice presidential debate we believe will still happen and supposed to be another presidential debate 13 days from now. the president would be in quarantine. the schedule is disrupted and what strikes me as most important is the president plays to the base. the turnout of the trump base was critical to have comeback odds. he cannot now do that in person at least in the short term.
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>> he cannot do it in person but i have no doubt that we are going to see and hear from the president in this 14-day period. i would not be surprised to hear from him before sunset tonight, calling into a favorite show or the phone rallies with some supporters. this is disrupted the plan. first and foremost trying to change the subject. he tried every which way to change the subject. of course, he got an opportunity with that -- the supreme court vacancy and also not expected to try to change the subject. he spoke last night at the al smith dinner, delivered a videotaped message saying that the coronavirus is in the past. nothing he's didn't has been able to change this conversation and this certainly refocuses the debate on coronavirus. i agree with jonathan. is it going to change any minds? i do not think it will, except for those voters who were not blaming him necessarily but
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beginning to look at a broader picture, the economy or the supreme court vacancies but 32 days until election. here in michigan it is election day. yesterday was. tomorrow is election day. millions of people will be voting here in the state and across the country, certainly tens of thousands here but by the vote some 3 million are expected to vote absentee. that is a challenge for this president. he did not reset the erase in the debate as advisers hoped. every passing day more votes are being sent in, john. >> we are having this conversation, the president's diagnosis coming out late last night. 48 hours, plus a few hours, after standing on a debate stage with joe biden and essentially belittled the former vice president for wearing masks so often. listen. >> i have a mask right here.
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i put a mask on when i think i need it. i don't wear it like him. every time you see him he's got a mask. 200 feet from anyone, a biggest mask i have ever seen. >> the president thought that was clever in the debate. the question is in the fallout here, joe biden testing negative today and will be out. the president mocked the campaigning because he does smaller events with people spread out and joe biden on the campaign trail when the president is in quarantine. >> he is mocking joe biden for wearing a mask back to memorial day when joe biden put a mask on to go and lay a wreath, a monument. that was in may. as recently as tuesday before 70 plus million viewers macking fun of biden for wearing a mask again and now the president himself has the virus. look. the president has tried to sort of talk about other issues, it's unavoidable for him to focus on this and i think the critique of
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biden for, you know, running a basement campaign, a favorite talking point of the president is going to look a lot different now because having run a basement campaign, especially given biden's testing negative today, is going to look significantly smarter in the eyes of american voters, john. >> jonathan martin, jeff zeleny, appreciate the reporting and sights. thank you both. when we come back, the markets don't like uncertainty. the president testing positive for coronavirus? that's uncertainty. n who honorad and it's made for her she's serving now we made it for all branches and all ranks whether they served one tour or made a career of it. we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids usaa is easy to work with and can save you money on auto, home and renters insurance. become a member today. get an insurance quote at usaa.com/quote
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important development just in. the president bowing out of the one event on the schedule this morning after announcing testing positive for covid-19. the president was supposed to participate in a midday call with senior citizens to talk about options to help protect the elderly from covid-19. instead we are told the president will not participate in that call. the white house chief of staff said he has mild symptoms. the vice president will fill in for the president. the president's positive test overnight rattled markets not just here in north america but around the world. adding to the uncertainty this morning is a weaker than expected september jobs report. you can look right now at the big board and the markets recovered a bit. down 38 points. cnn's julia chatterley is watching this for us. julia, markets don't like uncertainty but the big board right now seems okay. >> great to be with you. when you get a news like that on
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the president it doesn't get more uncertainty than that and that was the panic we saw. it stabilize because the president has mild symptoms i think is reassurance and then negative readings of vice president pence and steven new childr mnuchin, too. nancy pelosi has said that there will be imminent aid for the airlines. we had the likes of united and american airlines announcing the layoffs. and that's turned things around, i think. it will did overshadow the reading on the final jobs market reading before the presidential election and the truth is this is the highest unemployment rate we have ever seen for a president going into an
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election. that's the bottom line. even as we saw jobs added again in september, we have an unemployment rate now below 8%. that belies the challenges beneath. the pace of these job gains continues to slow. we have got a piling up of those that are permanent job losses rather than temporary. the basic fact is, john, this market is challenged, still a jobs crisis. the question is heading into this election, do voters hold the president accountable, if not for covid, the response and the impact on the jobs market? we have lost over 10 million jobs. >> 32 days. julia, appreciate the important update there. whether a republican senato announcing he has tested positive for covid-19. we'll go to capitol hill for reaction to that and the president's coronavirus test.
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the fallout from the president's positive covid-19 test extends to capitol hill. members of congress that met with the president or top aides now tested themselves. phil mattingly is live on capitol hill tracking this challenge for us. it is a big one. >> reporter: no question about it, one that lawmakers maybe are complacent on over the course of the last couple months.
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now there's been a positive test on capitol hill following the president's and wife's positive test. mike lee, utah republican, at the white house on saturday for the announcement of the nomination of amy coney barrett who met in person on tuesday with the supreme court nominee and throughout the course of the week at senate judiciary hearings and closed senate republican lunches tested positive for croon and said at the white house on saturday he tested negative but started feeling symptoms that reminded him of allergies on thursday and got a test because of that and came back positive. i think what you are seeing and hearing over last 12 to 15 hours is sheer panic with some aides because they don't know how to trace things back. right? there's no contact tracing on capitol hill in full effect, no testing on capitol hill. speaker nancy pelosi said this morning she took a test out of an abundance of caution because she met with treasury secretary
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mnuchin in person on wednesday. that same morning he had met with president trump in the oval office. the fact that she didn't have an automatic test to take and a rapid response test and waiting as of 20 minutes ago to get a response to the test and a result underscores right now that lawmakers are very unsettled and i think aides are, as well. last night and this morning lawmakers that took air force one with the president up to duluth for the rally, taken tests. figuring out whether they can go to the house floor and vote and bottom line from here on capitol hill is two fold. they don't have a handle on things. two, i think there's real questions now, the house operating as business as usual. some of the members on air force one with the president voted and then the senate, too, obviously a pretty darn big hearing scheduled october 12th to start
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the confer mairmation hearing o coney barrett. mike lee said he would be back to support the nomination and had democrats two minutes ago putt out a statement, the top democrats saying no hearing schedule can be set until they know the full extent of what is going on right now on capitol hill related to covid. mcconnell and graham said they're full steam ahead and will come up as people try to get the heads around the scope of this problem not just over at the white house but capitol hill. >> every question seems to beget another question. phil mattingly, appreciate the important reporting there. joining us now congressman rodney davis, you can speak firsthand to this. you tested positive back in august for covid. let's start to pick up where phil left off. do you feel that the house, the capitol in general, the house
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and the senate, the congress has the right protocols in place or should this, the president's positive test now and the scramble undergoing on capitol hill right now today give everyone, we need a better, more rigorous testing regime here on capitol hill? >> even before my diagnosis, i was sending letters to speaker pelosi from my committee on house administration asking her to work with us for a testing regime on capitol hill. the answer is, we don't have one here. and it's not just about members of congress because speaker pelosi got a test today but the people that work here, members of the media, folks that are protecting this complex, the police officers, those that xle clean the complex. >> most of us don't know,
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haven't gone through what you have gone through. one of my brothers had covid and said it was the worst two week of his life. talk us through this. >> luckily i didn't have the same experience as your brother. i was taking my temperature. my wife's a nurse and made me take my temperature every day. august 5th i had a high temperature according to what i was used to and to rule out covid since i had public events that day my wife and i went to a rapid scan facility in the district and surprisingly i came back positive but here's the key, too, john. my wife around me for those days before i knew i was diagnosed very closely and my staffers who i traveled with via closed vehicles closely, none tested positive and can't assume if somebody is just around a positive case that they're
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automatically going to get it and that's why we need a testing regime on capitol hill to make sure people rule out positive cases. >> help me as somebody who's been through this yourself and a member of the united states congress, what is the transparency challenge now for the president of the united states? what does the public deserve to know, a, because he's the president and, b, because we're 32 days to the election. >> i think he's transparent and announcing the diagnosis is a good thing. i know that you are going to see the president hopefully, i hope he and the first lady and staffers who were infected have the same experience i did, i certainly hope it is not like your brother's and we will know what type of experience the president has because that's what happens here in this country and in the united states of america. >> my brother's fine. he did say he was knocked on his you know what for two very tough
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♪'cause, ah-ah,♪ ♪shining through the city with a little funk and soul♪ ♪i'ma light it up like dynamite, whoa♪ when disaster strikes to one, we all get together and support each other. that's the nature of humanity. ♪ it has encouraged other people to take the time for each other. ♪ ♪ president trump of course not the first world leader to contract the coronavirus. the prime minister of the united keng dom became seriously ill
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after contracting covid. brazil's president had a mild case of it. and the presidents of honduras, guatemala and bolivia. both president trump and bolsonaro down played the impact of the virus. you can see both brazil and the united states despite the comments of the ledders hit particularly hard. others like the uk and honduras fared better so far. our correspondents around the world bring us some of the world reaction. >> reporter: i'm nic robertson in london where the british prime minister sent his best wishes to the president and first lady for a speedy recovery and he of course has experienced covid-19 himself falling ill late march, a week in hospital, three days in icu. the big takeaways in the uk from that were the spin from his back office number 10 downing street saying he was reading papers and
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then he was actually going into icu so playing up seemed to be doing better than he was and then a surge of support of the prime minister, the country worried when he went into the icu but a surge in popularity. but that fell away after the prime minister got out of hospital. and then the big difficulty for the prime minister, getting out of hospital it still took him two weeks of rest and recuperation to really get back on the job properly. >> reporter: i'm matthew chance in moscow where vladimir putin has sent president trump telegram wishing him and the first lady a speedy recovery. putin says they're quote inherent vitality, good spirits and hospital michl will help them cope with what he called the dangerous virus. it is more than those qualities that the russian leader depended on to defend himself against
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covid-19. putin sportsnet the pandemic in a virtual bubble you believely speaking by video conference, canceling all foreign trips and working mainly from the residence outside moscow where disinfectant tunnels that spray visitors down as they pass through are installed and russia approved a covid-19 vaccine with which several senior russian officials have been vaccinated despite incomplete human trials. the kremlin says putin may soon be vaccinated himself. one question, when the president of the united states has a positive diagnosis look this, in this case president trump and covid-19, what are the national security implications? let's discuss that now with the former house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers. you're familiar with chatter.
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what happens around the world especially among nations like russia, china, iran, trying to gain every bit of information they can about the united states not in a friendly way? what happens in a moment like this? >> every one of the adversarial leaders, not just the big nation states, you see this in the taliban and others around the world to evaluate. so they all have operations that try to find weaknesses into their adversaries and we would be that, the united states. there's calculations going through, there are things to get away today we couldn't yesterday? are there things to get away with next week that we couldn't today? there is procedures for our national security that have continuity and really important and important for adversaries to understand that we have a continuity plan in the united states and i'm sure they're trying to adhere to it at the white house. and i would not try to take
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advantage of the news for any mischievous acts around the world, north korea comes to mind. >> iran comes to mind. this is senator chris murphy on cnn earlier today suggesting what you did. some people might think the president is sick. is there an opening? >> recent reports suggest iran is not done with the campaign of retribution for the killing of qassem soleimani. so when you're thinking about the potential threats that come with a president that might not be in a position to make good decisions, iranian behavior is at the top of the list. >> i assume you would agree. at least near the top of the list. the white house says the president has mild simymptoms. but do you worry someone might decide this is a chance to poke? >> absolutely. the reason iran didn't rise above north korea because iran
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escalated bad activity going into this. so they'll just i think continue down the same path and i think our national security structure has a good view of what they have been doing and options are going in the near future. north korea could be a time that they decide they could test either missile system or nuclear test or they're fond of causing a skirmish with their south korean in their terms adversaries along this kind of line so any of those kinds of activities worry me a lot because we want to mitigate and then put them back in the box. some confusion is not great but i do think that the national security infrastructure has a way to cope with this and people will buckle down and again it is important that everyone get tested. i wish them all well and have a spee speedy recovery and it is really
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important to send the right message to the adversaries that we are ready and standing by and they should not take advantage of the news that we got today. >> thank you for watching and tharn patience. don't go anywhere. hello, i'm viewers in the yoots and around the world. the president of the united states is infected with the coronavirus one month before the election, among 7 million americans who have tested positive along with first lady melania trump. the president who said that the couple would begin the quarantine process immediately is expected to work out of the residence. the state your naming announcement that one of the closest aides hope hicks had also tested positive for covid. while the nation learned about
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