the president hospitalized. coronavirus spiking at the white house, and across the gop. >> i think i'm doing very well. but we're going to make sure that things work out. >> plus two experimental treatments and mixed messages about the prognosis. >> we remain cautiously optimistic, but he's doing great. >> and four weeks to election day, the candidate the president mocked for his masks is still on the trail. >> my wife and i pray they'll make a full recovery. >> welcome in to "inside politics". i'm john king. thank you for sharing your sunday. the president of the united states is hospitalized with coronavirus.

angry at his own chief of staff for suggesting things are dicey. >> so i just want to tell you that i'm starting to feel good. you don't know over the next period of a few days i guess that's the real test. so we'll be seeing what happens over those next couple days. i just want to be so thankful for all of the support i've seen whether it's on television or reading about it. >> that video message sent over twitter saturday night after the president became upset at media coverage that included an some mou ominous statement from his chief of staff. we know the president needed oxygen at least once on friday. and his treatment now includes an experimental antibody cocktail and another experimental drug known to reduce length of hospital stays in some covid-19 patients. the weight of this moment is obvious.

the president is at higher co-vid risk because of his age and weight and not since ronald reagan was shot four decades ago has an american president been at such grave risk. how we got here. for months the president and his team mocked the scientists and their advice about wearing masks and keeping distance. they ignored worries the president himself was putting himself and others at risk with crowded rallies and packed white house events like his convention speech and last weekend's supreme court rollout. the president himself said playing down the pandemic is a deliberate 2020 strategy. now 30 days to election day, the coronavirus case count nationally is heading up and the president plus a growing number of his team and his allies now counted in the grim statistics he wants you to ignore. the head of the united states government is hospitalized. the head of the trump campaign is co-vid positive and in isolation. so the head of the republican party. three republican senators are infected. melania trump is co-vid

positive. so is the president's personal asis tants. hope hicks, kellyanne conway, and chris christie. the hope of making the campaign less of a campaign issue is shattered. senate infections could shatter a preelection confirmation vote and it's time for another white house credibility crisis. >> co-vid and 7 to 10 are the most critical in determining the likely course of this illness. at this time the team and i are extremely happy with the progress the president has made. >> the doctor repeatedly refused to answer directly when asked if the president at any time needed oxygen and he had to issue a briefing to clean up the timeline. mark med koes called to fox news because the president was furious meadows told reporters

earlier in the day h vitals were concerning. the next 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical. >> he's doing extremely well. i'm very optimistic based on the current results. he's made unbelievable improvements from yesterday morning when i know a number of us, the doctor and i were very concerned. >> with us this sunday, chief of infectious diseases and an emergency room physician and brown university researcher. kayla, the white house with the anxiety and the mixed messages. the president is in the hospital. we've had a bit of a keystone cops routine about information released and then corrected. you have anxiety among white house aides they are learning things from us in the news. they're told to come to work. they're come to work at the

trump campaign and they don't know what's going on. >> and it's not just staffers. it's also people around the president who say they've gotten no calls from the white house medical office on what they should do. when it comes to mixed message, you saw it play out with mark meadows telling that to fox news last night saying they were concerned about the president's condition on friday morning, talking about his fever and talking about his oxygen levels. john, that's not what mark meadows was saying to us publicly. rebri briefed reporters in the morning when he said the president had mild symptoms and was talking about the great spirits he was in and the work he was doing. the white house is not giving a clear message about what's going on with the president's health. we're having to learn this information through sources and other ways because we're also not getting a clear picture from the president's own doctor who won't give something as simple at his vitals when he was pressed by reporters multiple times. something as simple as whether or not the president was given

supplemental oxygen. a source later told cnn the president had been given supplemental oxygen. and so this is a white house where we have talked about this before. whether or not we are getting straight answers from them. but this is a time when it actually matters the most. because it does concern the president's health. he's in the hospital on experimental drugs. we don't know when he'll leave the hospital, and so at a time when we do need the answers, the white house is not giving them or if they are giving them, they're not matching up with what other officials are saying. >> let's get to the doctors on this. doctor, from what we know, we know from our reporting the president needed oxygen on friday. he was having trouble breathing. we know from his doctors he's on this antibody cocktail and he's on his second day now, i believe of remdesivir. from what you heard from the doctors and what you understand from co-vid from your personal experience, what's your assessment based on the what we do know? >> good morning, john.

so this is opaque whether it's for the president's image, for patient confidentiality, national security, we don't have all the details we'd like to have to piece this together. we know when vital signs and things are normal, we do not know when things are abnormal, nobody has mentioned a test ct or chest x-ray. i'm certain those have happened. nobody has mentioned whether he's on drugs to bring his temperature down. we know that at certain points of time he hasn't had a fever. we don't know at what points of time he's been on oxygen. he received a single dose, it's a one dose therapy of the antibody. he's also on day two of what is generally a five-day course of remdesivir. i want to be clear. the natural history of this disease, even when should the experimental therapies work, plays out in the order of days, not hours. so to say on friday night he was less well and on saturday afternoon he's well, i think we

still have five days, seven days to see how this really plays out. >> and so doctor, is there -- if you're hospitalized and taking remdesivir, is there a minimum you have to stay? i was told by somebody the president has been told he's going to be in the hospital for at least five days. the president in the message said he hoped to be out soon. the president is 74 years old. he's five times more likely to be hospitalized. he's 90 times more to die than a young person. his obesity makes him tree times more likely to be hospitalized. based on your, appearance, what's your assessment? >> to echo off of what the doctor was saying, i expect he'll be in the hospital for at least the five days of the

remdesivir treatment. it would be unusual to send someone home, even the president, while he's still receiving that treatment. there are side effects that can cause liver toxicity and allergic receiving. he should be monitored closely. the fact he was given supplemental oxygen increases his mortality rate above what is predicted based off his age, his sex and obesity. studies from the uk looking at patients who have been hospitalized the covid-19 and got dexamethasone which many of us imagine president trump has received showed for people on oxygen and have covid-19, the mortality rate goes up to between 23% and 26%. a one in four chance of dying. hopefully these experimental drugs will work and the remdesivir will work. we should all be waiting and watching closely for the next

five or ten days until president trump is over that hump of what we are worried about which is the immune -- robust immune response which can cause all the negative complications from covid-19. >> i want to stay with the medical professionals for a second. help me understand what's on your lchecklist? they say tested positive friday, needed oxygen, was hospitalized. they say feeling better. does it mean anything meaning you can take down his fever with medication and do other things with medication. is there a predictable path that if on day three he's doing well, he's on a path to recovery or is this unpredictable that some patients get better and then take a turn for the worst? >> i want to just comment yesterday about the video we saw of the president. i think that was rather reassuring. he got through a six minute video. he did not require oxygen for it. he was speaking in full

sentences, did not appear short of breath. there was not a single cough during the period of that video. for some short period of time he was able to tolerate saying those words and looking quite well, i think. that said, i think we are in watchful waiting. it is the rejen ron antibody tends to -- the remdesivir tends to decrease your duration of disease, but i don't think the signs of today he doesn't have a fever, right now he's not on oxygen is necessarily any indication that he's out of the woods. >> doctors and kaitlyn, appreciate you getting us started on this sunday. an important story. up next, the trump campaign without the star attraction. republican worries now include senate infections that could put their supreme court confirmation plan at risk. a new home easier than ever. (brad) apartments-dot-com. the most popular place to find a place.

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republicans are worried the president's coronavirus hospitalization is going to make an already bad election climate worse. and the gop's one giant preelection goal, also in some jeopardy this sunday. two republican members of the senate judiciary committee, mike lee of utah and thom tillis of north carolina among at least 8 people at the judge amy coney barrett rollout event eight days who have tested positive for coronavirus. now, republican leaders vow to press ahead. their confirmation math could get dicey if people are sidelined for long, and senator ron johnson also has coronavirus. it's too soon for polling for the impact of the president's diagnosis. the weekend mood along gop strategists is grim.

new polling suggests last week's debate had weakened the president. sun survey had joe biden leading in two critical bat grounds, florida and pennsylvania and two-thirds of voters in those states disproved of how the president conducted himself in the debate. with us this sunday, song min, last night listen to lindsey graham in a tight reelection battle, he brought this up at his debate with his democratic rival. lindsey graham says full speed ahead. >> the virus is serious. but we have to move on as a nation. when a military member gets an infection, you don't shut down the unit. we're going to have a hearing for amy barrett, the nominee to the supreme court. it will be done safely, but i have a job to do and i'm pressing on. >> he says he's pressing on, but their math gets dicey if tillis

and lee are sidelined for a significant amount of time, and if any more republican senators get co-vid. >> you know, ever since republican officials started laying out this very aggressive yet doable timeline to get amy coney barrett confirmed to the supreme court before election day, they stressed over and over to me this relies on every piece falling in the right place. right now that is not happening. and we don't know how long these republican senators will be sidelined for. their aides tell us they are doing well. they are expected to take part in confirmation hearings starting october 12th. it could be done virtually. there's a fight between senate democrats and republicans over that. the math matters here. mitch mcconnell had little room for error in the first place. he has two republicans, lisa murkowski and susan collins who do not support a vote on this before election day. so he's already working with just 51 votes.

you can't lose any more republicans with that little of math, and mcconnell has been someone who has been adamantly against proxy voting during the time of the pandemic. so we -- if this goes on and if this really affects the floor vote cal cue louse, mcconnell will have to come up with creative ideas to come up with election day. >> we can't understand yet the broader campaign impact. i know what talking to republicans over the weekend, they're in a grim mood. this puts coronavirus at the top of the campaign agenda. the president was trying to brush it aside. i want you to listen. this is one of the president's key allies. republicans have a challenge now. how do we message in the final weeks of the campaign, the final days, with the president in the hospital? this is matt gates' answer. >> this virus can get into the oval, into the body of the president. there's no place where it could not possibly infect one of our

fellow americans, because there is no lockdown that can be a panacea to save everyone from everything, and this is proof positive that's the case. >> no. it is not proof positive that's the case. it is proof positive that if you behave recklessly, you might get infected. i want to show you this. the president's schedule in the days before his diagnosis. we could go back weeks and months. the scotus announcement at the white house. a packed crowd at the white house. people packed into small meeting rooms inside the white house before that. a crowded rally in pennsylvania. a press conference in the briefing room. walking out with pence. he had a rally in duluth. he gets on air force one headed to a fundraiser after being told one of his aides tested positive within his proximity. the problem is the president's reckless behavior, not that co-vid can get anybody. >> also that the white house

apparently hosted the event where a lot of people got the infection. a super spreader event. the cavalier attitude toward the virus, and now the fact of the president being in the hospital and his staffers painting a rosier picture of his health than is true. those rocks pile up in the backpa backpack. that's a heavy load for republicans to carry up the hill, all those factors together. and i just think take a step back. the fact of asking voters to support an incumbent president who has been hospitalized for at least a few days. we don't know how long, with a really serious disease, that's a tough ask of the electorate. and you add to that why he's been hospitalized, and i think it creates challenges for the gop. i would caution that there's still a lot of october left. and if 2020 proves anything, it's that we can't be too premature about what's going to happen next. everything has been

unpredictable. >> that's true. we have a lot of october left. we know the supreme court nomination, the republicans want to ram it through. we don't know if the president can get on the campaign trail. we don't know if there will be additional campaign debates. we know the president and republicans have been hoping to push the coronavirus down or give it competition. joebtd's agenda. this is from social flow. look at media attention by topic in august. the coronavirus up here. the coronavirus right now, still way up there. you did see a spike in supreme court attention around the nomination, but the republicans, the hopes of changing the conversation in the final four weeks of the campaign just forget about it with the president of the united states in the hospital with coronavirus and with so many other republicans, trump team members, trump white house aides, republican senators. with all this co-vid, it's impossible for republicans to try to change the subject. >> there is absolutely no way that you can change the subject from here. actually, if you watched the south carolina debate you saw

lindsey graham try to pivot so many answers back to the supreme court confirmation fight. they know that galvanizes republican voters but even that is unescapable from the virus with a growing number of senators getting the virus. republicans, they know they had to switch attention back to the economy, to judicial confirmations, anything but the pandemic and the president's handling of it. it's hard to do right now with the commander in chief himself at walter reed, a number of days we don't know, and clearly this being so front and center of the public minds right now with him being hospitalized. >> uncertainty abounds. jonathan makes an important point. we're early in october. the shock and tragedy includes a hospitalized president and across the country a resurgent coronavirus. n ciaba,

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the president is hospitalized 30 days before the election. clear answers about his conditio by. >> he's not received any supplemental oxygen? >> he's not on oxygen right now. >> you said he's fever free now. what was his fever when he had one? >> i'd rather not give any specific numbers but he did have a fever. >> have you done a screen? is there been any sign of any lung damage? >> we're following awe of that. we do daily lab work and ultra sounds. the team is tracking all of that. >> has he ever been on

supplemental oxygen. >> right now he is not on oxygen. >> you keep saying right now. >> yesterday and today he was not on oxygen. >> with us this sunday, the teen of the brown university cool of public health and cnn presidential historian. it's hard to know listening to that from the doctors, they were not specific. they issued another at the same time l.a. night saying the president is doing better now that he's hospitalized. what's your assessment based on the information you have and i know there's some missing and to the point the president made in his video that he's feeling better and hopes to be back soon at the white house and on the pa campaign trail and is that realistic? >> thank you for having me on. lots of evasive. a look of consistency, self-contradiction. it's hard to know how the president is doing. obviously we all hope he's doing well. but i think this is going to be a slow recovery. it's hard for me to see him bouncing straight back from him.

we hope he does, but we think it's going to be difficult. >> it was put this way in the washington post. this episode piled on top of everything that's occured this year adds to the train of a nation that never has a minute to stain away from controversy and never has a chance to collect in a breath. once in a century occurrences play out in unison. there is no respite. put this moment into context for us, if you can. >> well, i think it's the big moment of 2020. i mean, history is going to write about covid-19, this extraordinary story. donald trump's fumbling out of the gate to get our country organized to attack the pandemic. got a little bit of traction, but then started saying crazy things about what drugs to take and started not wearing masks, holding big rallies. indoors, having one of the political leaders of his party,

hermann cain die. here we are with the clock ticking toward november 3rd and the president of united states instead of campaigning or being able to fundraise in a normal way is incapacitied in walter reed hospital. it's a major big story. we have to see how it will play out on the rest of the campaign. can there be future debates? i would just tell you, keep in mind when we talk about the kennedy/johnson debates in 1960, the third debate there, they weren't in the same room, kennedy and nixon. jfk was in manhattan, new york city, while nixon was in hollywood. you might have a situation where donald trump on october 15th asked to do the debate in a different way, meaning telecommunication way at the white house or walter reed, otherwise it's scrubbed. >> remacable, but given this year, i put nothing off the table given this year. we've talked about this

repeatedly. behavior that is reckless and irresponsible for the president and people around him. i just want to go back in time a little bit. this is what the president of the united states back when he was talking to bob woodward in interviews about "rage "the president seemed to think he somehow was different. listen. >> well, you're risking getting it, of course, the way you move around and have those briefings and deal with people. are you worried about that? >> i'm not. i don't know why. i'm not. i'm not. >> why? >> i don't know. i'm just not. >> you have that, and then you had at the debate on tuesday night, there was a requirement that everybody in the hall was supposed to wear a mask. members of the trump family and other members of the trump delegation walked out in their masks and when they took down, they took them off. a cleveland staffer tried to get them to put them on, they refused. the defiance of the president and the people around him in the

past several months, what does that tell you? >> yeah. so i know that the president wasn't worried. i've been worried. many of us have been worried. i have written and said as much, that i've been very worried that the approach the white house is taking to protecting the president to protecting the first family, it is inadequate, and that this is likely to happen. and here we are. i think there has been a cavalier attitude about all of this. and that it's not a big deal, that they, their testing program was going to keep everybody safe. we all knew it wasn't going to, and unfortunately it turns out science got this one right, and the white house could not defy the predictions of what we know about this virus. >> and doug, the lack of transparency about the specifics. what was the president's fever? how long and for what need did the president need oxygen? is that common or is this unusual? >> it's a usual for this modern era. in the past presidents would always try to conceal their

illnesses, whether it wassiz eisenhower or wilson. this one, we're being gas lit. the whole world is leaning forward trying to know what's going on now. we can't get any clear information. so it's a debacle. and it's good that president trump's able to tweet images of himself that are a bit reassurance, but i think full transparency would be the friend of the president and it would be beneficial to the united states and the people of the world. >> appreciate your insights. thank you. >> up next, the national count of new coronavirus infections is climbing again. wisconsin, one of the states in crisis. with spray mopping to lock away debris and absorb wet messes, all in one disposable pad.

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hospitalization with covid-19 comes at a moment of indisputable evidence, the virus is spiking again across the country. let's look at the numbers. look at the trend map right now. 21 states, the orange and redheading in the wrong direction. that means more new infections now compared to a week ago. 21 states going up. the beige holding steady. the country headed in the wrong direction. if you look at the case curve, again, the peak of the summer surge about 77,000 infections a day. that was the average. july 16th, we came down some. we're heading back up. now about 40,000 new infections a day on friday 54,000 new infections reported. heading in the wrong direction as we get closer to the election, and the public health officials would say the cold weather, people heading inside, the trend lines going in the wrong direction. states are testing. this is what you watch to try to look around the corner. positivity rate, 22% in idaho.

22% in wisconsin. 42% in mississippi. the governor just dropped the mask mandate there. double digits in a number of states. those are the deeper colors. and ten states in the past week, ten states have set records for new cases and the seven day average. this disease is not fading. it's growing. look at the northern swath of the country, it's colder there as we head into the season. wii swi a state in crisis right now. you don't need me to explain the numbers. you see it in the spike of the line from the end of august up to september and october. saturday nearly 3,000 cases in the state of wisconsin. when you look at it from a testing positivity rate, positivity rate below 5% is good. that was in june, now in double digits. doctors skroeacross the states e have a crisis. >> over the past few weeks we've

seen a remarkable rise of cases in brown county. that's resulted in a marked increase in patients coming to my emergency department to the point that as you mentioned for the first time in 16 years that i've been here, we've had to put patients in hallway beds. >> the lieutenant governor of wisconsin joins us now. thank you for your full-time this morning. we could put up front pages of newspapers in your state. you have the president of the united states hospitalized and your state in a crisis. we've talked about this over the many months of covid-19. what happened? why is wisconsin in crisis right now. >> yeah. unfortunately as you mentioned, the temperatures are changing here in wisconsin, and people had a very lovely summer this year as far as the weather is concerned. people had an opportunity to hang out and congregate outside. and people haven't stopped congregating. we'll also in the beginning of football season, the nba championships, and people are going back to bars. people are having house parties, and people aren't necessarily being responsible. it's also important to note that

the leaders aren't being responsible. we have our senator, ron johnson who has contracted covid-19. he said he doesn't care where he got it, and obviously he didn't care who he gave it to. he went to an e event the night he took a test before receiving the results. and the president of the united states as well. >> as you know, this debate has been ongoing, you see people tweeting and saying this proves mask mandates don't work because look at wisconsin. their cases are going up. you have other people in your state blaming the fight with the supreme court over the governor's powers. does the politics help or hurt at this moment when you have a public health crisis? >> politics are definitely hurtful, especially when you have a legislature who refuses to take this seriously. the legislature refuses to meet to address the crisis, and accept it for the severity that it is posing to our state. and also, you know, with the

supreme court fight, it was unfortunate because there's so much more we should be able to do as public health officials whether at the state level or even the county level. so much we should be able to do as an administration, but our hands are tied, unfortunately, and our legislature has been completely unresponsive, and now they are joining the lawsuit, the newest lawsuit to challenge the extension of the mask mandate. they have no problem with joining covid-19 in the fight against wisconsin people. it's going to paint an ugly picture this fall if we continue down this path. >> there are lawsuits about voting in your state. i want to put up on the screen, nearly 2.7 million ballots cast in the united states by mail or early voting. and you see your state, wisconsin behind florida, nearly 440,000 ballots cast already. you have the lawsuits challenging say, opening arenas for early voting centers and things like that. you have legal fights and also a

soaring case count right now. what is the impact on the vote 30 days to the election in a key battle ground state, wisconsin? >> well, the thing is there's a lot of enthusiasm here, obviously, to vote in this election in wisconsin. and it's a shame that more people are upset about the possibility of folks voting at arena than trump's assertion the militia should watch polling areas. it shows who they want to vote and don't want to vote. that's the something. this isn't like gerrymandering where they already pick their own voters. you can't do that on a broad scale. that's not democracy. and we're getting so far away from how government is supposed to function, how civics is supposed to work in america, and it is, again, a scary thing, but people are going to step up, and we are taking every precaution necessary. our party infrastructure is

strong right now. especially when it comes to voter protection. we got our voter protection hotline if anybody feels intimidated or has any questions, they're free to contact that. we're going to do whatever we can in spite of to make this process flow as smoothly as possible. >> let me ask you lastly, governor, in the debate tuesday night, the president of the united states said stand down but stand by to a group, the proud boys, a white nationalist group. a couple days later he went on fox news and said he denounced them. i'm wondering as a black man and black public official in the united states of america, what was your reaction to watching the president in faof the unite states in that moment? >> shocked but not surprised. we know his mo, how he got into office, and we know he knows that he can't win reelection without racism. that's not to say all his voters are racist, but he can't win without racism. that's his wild car.

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when needed i wear masks. >> okay. let me ask -- >> i don't wear masks like him. every time you see him he wears a mask. you could speak 200 feet from him and he shows up with the biggest mask i've seen. >> you the president is in the hospital can coronavirus. joe biden and his campaign still out campaigning. >> it's not about being a tough guy. wearing a mask is not only to protect you but also protects those around you. your mom, your dad, your brother, your sister, husband, wife, neighbor, co-worker. don't just do it for yourself. do it for the people you love. the people you work with. >> it is unclear now if the two remaining presidential debates on the schedule will happen. mike pence and kamala harris are scheduled to debate this week seated 12 feet apart instead of 7 because of the white house coronavirus outbreak. with with us david axelrod, a top strategist of the

obama/biden campaign in 2008. this is an unchartered waters in the campaign. joe biden mocked for weeks and months by his rival, the president of the united states, still out campaigning while the president is hospitalized. the biden campaign said they also say he will be tested more regularly and they will be transparent about the results. what does this moment mean? >> of course, we don't know. but one thing we know about this race is that there have been seismic events blowing up all around it and the structure of the race hasn't changed really. biden has held a very steady lead and this probably won't hurt it. i mean, that is such an awkward moment you played of the president mocking biden and, you know, the president desperately wanted to get this virus in the rearview mirror and now the virus has put him in the hospital and that has put the virus right back in the

headlines. so you have to feel like this is a blow to his candidacy, not to mention the fact he is off the trail. go ahead, john. >> no. he is off the trail. joe biden has to pick -- my question is the tone right now. president of the united states is hospitalized and all americans should be concerned about their president when he is hospitalized. joe biden says he will continue to campaign but they did pull down negative ads and put up more positive ads so no slashing ads against the president on the television. at a town hall yesterday, joe biden wants the president's mismanagement of the pandemic to be issue number one and continued to make that case yesterday. listen. >> for so long, washington left our cities and states and transit agencies to bid against one another. how much is his fault? not my fault, go for your mayor

or your governor or your employer. it's unconscionable. >> is there a taste question with the president in the hospital or would you keep that pace up? >> i think there is a line you have to walk. i don't think biden crossed it there particularly because the president made a point tweeting out last night that he is feeling well and he continues to put himself out there. but i do think you have to be careful. one thing about biden. you know him well, john, is that, you know, he is sensitive to these things. he does have a sense of empathy. he, apparently, asked the campaign to pull down their negative ads. it was the right move. but i don't think you want to take your foot off the pedal on the virus, itself. one of the reasons we are in the jam we are in is because the president has been so reckless about the advice he has given the american people and the example that he has set. sadly, now he has set an example

about why those guidelines that his government have issued are so important. wear a mask and socially distance. i think it's fair for biden to raise these points. >> take us inside the biden inner circle from your own experience two presidential campaigns. none like this. you mentioned this is a yearly from the very beginning. we had impeachment, the pandemic, and we have had so many unpredictable events and now the president is hospitalized the final four weeks of the campaign. what is it like in that room when you're making decisions? should we travel? how often do we get tested? how much do we release the results of that? if they can't debate in person should there be online a zoom debate? what is the conversation? >> first of all, i think they did make the right decisions pulling down the ads. for some reason, they were hesitant early in the day yesterday to say they would release all of their tests. of course, they should release all of theirs tests. one of the issues here is there

is still murkiness about the timing of all that with him so be transparent. and forthright on that issue. yes, i would -- i think they are right to continue to travel. they made the right decision. just watch your tone. and make yourself available for these debates. the next debate was going to be a town hall debate which favored biden and it's unlikely that will happen now. maybe it will. but, you know, they are in the driver's seat right now. i think the object here is to be steady as you go and no need to speed. they have got a big advantage on cash which is quite remarkable, given the history of presidential politics that the democratic challenger should be so well-funded in this race and they can press that advantage on television. they are going to do it with positive ads. i'm sure, you know, there were deliberations about this but they landed in the right place. >> we will watch in the sure

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