tv Fareed Zakaria GPS CNN October 4, 2020 10:00am-11:00am PDT
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ignorance, arrogance. the same failures you have been inflicting on the rest of us. get well, and please, for the rest of us who don't get to go to walter reed, get well and get it together. thanks for spending your sunday with us. the news continues next. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. thank you so much for joining me. we begin this hour with an attempted cleanup on messaging of the president's condition in his battle with covid. only today another briefing from his medical team ignites more questions, more confusion, less clarity. the president's doctors maintain president trump is doing well, but admitted trump did need supplemental oxygen saturday after announcing yesterday the president didn't. they add that he also received a second dose of remdesivir, a five-day treatment that is
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usually supposed to be administered in a hospital. yet, the medical team said that the president could be discharged as early as tomorrow. >> today he feels well. he has been up and around. our plan today is to have him eat and drink, be up out of bed as much as possible, to be mobile and if he continues to look and feel as well as he does today, our hope is to plan for a discharge as early as tomorrow to the white house where he can continue his treatment course. >> now major questions about the credibility of the story that we're being told about our president. we have a team of correspondents covering these fast-moving developments for us. boris sanchez at the white house. joe johns at walter reed medical center where the president is being treated. joe, you know, the president's medical team trying to clear things up. all of these contradictions in the last few hours. yet now more contradictions. how could he be possibly discharged as early as tomorrow when there is so much
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uncertainty about the volatility of covid and the president? >> right. i can't say that they have cleared anything up, quite frankly. on one hand, they say there has been substantial progress for the president. on the other hand, they say at least two times over the last several days the president has seen a drop in his blood oxygen levels, which is potentially a serious problem. also, the doctors indicated today that they put him on dexamethasone. now, that is a steroid, a very strong steroid that's generally recommended for patients with very serious cases of covid. the president is also still on remdesivir, a five-day course of treatment, which requires him essentially to be at the hospital for that to be administered because there are potentially serious side effects. despite that we are being told from the doctors that the president might go home as early
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as tomorrow, which doesn't seem to jibe, if you will. one of the doctors, sean conley, who leads the team, was asked about the rosy scenarios, some of which he put forth yesterday. here's what he said. >> i was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team, the president, that his course of illness has had. i didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction, and in doing so, you know, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn't necessarily true, and so here you have it. he is -- the fact of the matter is that he is doing really well. he is -- >> now, one of the tings that wasn't said there is the fact that a doctor essentially cannot
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release information unless a patient gives permission. and we do know that president trump has been working very hard throughout this year to project strength, if lyou will, and he does not like to be portrayed as weak. however, the important thing and the bottom line, the reason why we are paying so much attention to all of this, is this is an election year and the american people certainly have a right to know about the president's health before the election. back to you. >> yeah, that plus we are talking about covid-19. coronavirus. a virus, a disease that has killed 208,000 plus americans. all right. thank you so much, joe. boris sanchez at the white house. so, boris, let's talk about this. who is trying to be in control of the messaging? the white house, the president, or the medical team? >> that's a great question, fred. clearly some disparities between
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what we have heard from dr. conley and other white house officials. at one point he was asked about a comment made by the president's chief of staff yesterday to reporters saying that the president's health had been very concerning. conley effectively said that the comment was misconstrued and that's when he got into that sound bite you played with joe talking about wanting to paint a rosier picture. to be clear, the contradictions are out there. conley revealing the president had drops in his oxygen level revealing that president trump had a high fever, things he did not mention yesterday. he also revealed that the president did receive supplemental oxygen despite having trouble answering that question yesterday as well. notably, you know, the white house chief of staff, mark meadows, now under fire. the president, according to sources, furious at his chief of staff for having this conversation with reporters and making comments that reveal concern among the president's staff, among aides here at the
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white house about the president's health. we have heard from a source close to the president that revealed that dr. conley and president trump met before yesterday's briefing. we are working to confirm if they met before today's briefing much the source made clear that conley would not be sharing any information that the president wouldn't approve of. so it seems like there is mixed messaging perhaps what the president wants out there, what dr. conley is struggling to conceal from reporters and what others on sort of the tan jenningsle side of the president's infection are sharing with the public. the white house clearly has a crisis of credibility at this point and a big part of the skepticism that a lot of people are feeling toward these statements made by people like dr. conley is because if you go back to the beginning of the administration the white house has put out misinformation or inaccurate statements about thi things that are trivial. now when there is a serious issue at hand there are question marks about the information we
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are receiving. >> boris sanchez, thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. let's talk about so many holes now, gapping holes, and among the questions being asked of the medical team were the latest images, you know, taken of the president involving his lungs. we know covid attacks so many organs. the doctors said that the findings were expected. listen to what was said. >> what did the x-rays and ct scans show? are there signs of pneumonia? are there signs of lung involvement? were any damage to the lungs? >> we are tracking all of that. there is some expected findings, but nothing of any major clinical concern. >> how do you translate that? >> well, they ahiding things. i hate to say that.
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that's a serious thing to say. if these were normal scans, he would have said they were normal scans. clearly, they are abnormal. but he is not telling us what they showed. expected findings doesn't really mean much. on one hand, you are hearing he is doing fine. what is expected findings for someone who a moment ago he said wh was doing fine, maybe going to be discharged tomorrow. we have to sort of really sort of dig into this, read webetwee the lines, understand what they are telegraphing us. as boris sanchez was saying, it's a pattern. all day friday he is doing fine, he has mild illness, he has a fever, he has moderate illness. by the end of the day he is eventually being medevaced to the hospital. what we know if what we are hearing is true what we know is that the president has had a significant impact of this disease on his lungs. his blood oxygenation dropped low enough twice, this he say, to require supplemental oxygen.
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that's a big deal when you are talking about this osort of disease. it puts him in a different sort of risk category. we know about the medications being given to him. there is a significant level of concern, despite what you hear from that press conference, which is difficult to interpret by anybody, frankly, there is a significant level of concern that they are telegraphing. >> and the doctors gave some numbers on the oxygen levels in the 90s, but then the doctor was quick to say but never in the 80s. why is that significant to hear him say that? >> actually, it's interesting. i listened to that carefully. they said how low did it go? did it go into the 80s? he said it did not go into the low 80s, he said. which, again, you know, why are they doing this? this is juvenile at this point. we are talking about someone's health that someone has to be the president. why these games that are continuing to get played? that aside, it's relevant because it gives some idea of
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the impact that this disease is having on his lungs. how well are his lungs keeping up. we could say at this point that his lungs have had some difficulty keeping up. that's why the oxygenation has dropped. they want to snoknow, because t are given him three medications, monoclonal, the remdesivir and now steroids. you are monitoring oxygen levels. what is the impact on the lungs and are these medications hopefully having a beneficial impact on the lungs. this is critical information. it's not the only critical thing. there is other things i would love to know, but that's at least one thing that they have given us. >> are people to extrapolate that the president may be in worse condition than the doctors are willing to say, especially if the doctors are willing to say he is in a second day of a five, you know, day treatment, and you underscored that that is treatment that has to be administered in the hospital, yet the doctors would also say
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he could be discharged as early as tomorrow. i mean, what is anyone to think about what the true condition is of the president? >> yeah. well, i mean, so i would say a couple things. i think the president is sicker than the doctors are letting on. and again i hate to say it that way, but they have made that clear throughout these last several days. they keep telegraphing things that are highly concerning, but then painting this rosy picture. the president is on three different medications. his oxygen levels have dropped. we know that they are findings on his imaging studies that are not normal. so these are all things that would certainly lead one to believe he is sicker -- you know, doing fine, maybe going home tomorrow. the going home tomorrow sort of comment, that struck me, as it did you, for two reasons. one is that he is on a medication that is supposed to be administered in the hospital, this remdesivir, and it's a
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five-day course. he is the president. there is a white house medical unit. so could it be possible that they could set up something to administer this iv medication at the white house? perhaps. i mean, you know, would it be advisable? i don't think would be would advise that. these are unusual times. what struck me about the fact that dr. garibaldi said that, that's the expectation now, right? the expectation that they set is the president should go home tomorrow. i mean, he is sick. he is on three medications with this fluctuating oxygenation. >> and that in step with the president tweeting images, video, still images that make it look like business as usual, he is able to conduct the business of being a president while at walter reed. this other medication you mentioned, this dexamethasone, what kind of condition does a covid patient need to be in to be administered that? >> yeah, the dexamethasone, again, which is one of only two medications that have an emergency use authorization for this disease, is typically given
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to people who have objective evidence of troubles with their lungs in terms of their oxygenation. sometimes it's given to people who are already on breathing machines, with i the president is not. but people who -- it's an anti-inflammatory. it's a steroid. and when you start to think that you have significant inflammation that could be overwhelming the lungs you can give a medication to basically tamp down that inflammation. many people have heard cytokine storm, when you develop a significant inflammation in response to this disease, and that could be really troubling and really, now, concerning from a medical standpoint. if you are giving dexamethasone, that means they are concerned about that. they are concerned about the inflammation. so he has gotten two doses of that, and when you start, again, to translate, read between the lines, put this information all together, it does paint a concerning picture. >> and then quickly the other thing. i mean, to hear the doctors say
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as early as tomorrow the president could go back to the white house, contact tracing hasn't been executed or even completed, and the idea of the president going back to the white house, there are a host of vulnerabilities. what do you say to that potential of the president going back to a place where it's a working and a residential location? >> well, you know, he would have to be in isolation if he were to go. i don't think going back to the white house is a good idea at all given the picture that they frame. but if he were to go, he needs to be in isolation over there, which is more challenging to do. people who interact with him would need to be in personal protective equipment. i mean, he is right now someone who is carrying the virus in his body. he could be a source of spread, obviously. so it would have to be a really, really contained situation in some way for him at the white house, which is another reason for him to stay in the hospital. i mean, this is what hospitals
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do. they have all the people trands to interact with somebody who is carrying this virus. so, you know, if he goes back to the white house tomorrow, i don't think that would be a medical decision. i don't think the medical doctors would want that to happen. they would be just basically following orders at that point. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much. we have so much more on all of this coming up. what happens when a president becomes too sick to perform his duties? we'll lay all of that out for you.
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are emerging. if you had questions yesterday, however, you probably have more now. i want to bring back the panel. dr. james phillips is the chief of disaster medicine at george washington university hospital. the national security reporter for the washington foes post and patrick healy editor for "the new york times." dr. phillips, you first. the president's physicians saying he hopes trump could possibly be discharged as early as tomorrow in spite of his oxygen levels, you know, dropping twice. what is your assessment of what we all heard? >> thanks for having me on. so you know discharge planning is a medical terminology we use. it has complexities to it. typically when we think of discharging from the hospital that means we are going home. you or i going to the place we normally live or we may have a oral prescription that we take, but no major medical care. but the other type of discharge from a hospital is to a place
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where you get continued care. a place where you go if you are on a five-course of antibiotics or continued monitoring is necessary, regular checkups from doctors and nurses -- >> and that could happen at the white house? a five-day remdesivir? >> it would be necessary, right? so we would typically send o someone to a long-term facility or the antiquated colloquial term is a nursing home. >> the president of the united states is how we are applying this. realistically could be treated at the level the president of the united states is being treated with covid-19, which has killed 208,000 americans, at the white house? >> what we know about the white house medical unit is it has extensive capabilities. you heard that the president received oxygen prior to being transported to walter reed. if you look at pictures, it has extensive abilities, including monitoring, nursing p.a.s,
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doctors all that care. the president should be able to receive that iv treatment if that white house medical unit and the president's residence is converted into a nursing home or long-term care facility better term the. >> still unclear, when the president contracted covid, when he first developed and demonstrated his symptoms, when he was actually diagnosed because, you know, there were discrepancies yesterday, and the last time that he tested negative. then there was this question to the doctors about imaging and the findings from the doctors visit at walter reed. listen. >> what did the x-rays and ct scans show? are there signs of pneumonia? are there since of lung involvement? any damage to the lungs? >> yes, we are tracking all of that. there is some expected findings, but nothing of any major clinical concern. >> all right.
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so was there anything there that you found urias? you know, tracking the findings, nothing really of clinical concern, and, you know, he had shortness of breath and he has been treated with supplemental oxygen, taking now another, you know, dose of medication as an anti-inflammatory, a steroid. so there has to be something there that they have seen in imaging, but perhaps the issue is they just don't want to share it. >> right. the question is what are expected findings in covid? that can vary from a normal chest x-ray, which i hope we see in most patients, to ground glass opacities in the lungs to things like multifocal pneumonia. if you remember early on we thought that covid-19 was somewhat similar to a disease called ards, acute respiratory distress syndrome, which has very distinct x-ray findings. then if a patient becomes hypoxic, especially in a disease
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where we worry about blood clots, a ct scan may be necessary to look at the blood vessels in the lungs to see if there is blockage with a blood clot. without knowing the lab values involved, we don't know if the president is being anti coagulated with something. when it comes to the lab values, there is something the reporters should dig into a little bit. yesterday it was said he had normal kidney and normal liver function. today a subtle change said that the president had normal cardiac, i'll quote it. his cardiac, kidney and liver function showed continued normal findings or improving findings. if you do the addition and subtraction there, they added in the cardiac stuff and implied there was maybe an abnormality there. i think that deserves some questions to clarify a bit. >> so how much information do the american people need to have
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about this president, any president's condition? >> i think that the american people need to have as much information as possible. if you are going to be making these statements and updates about the president's condition, you want to be able to believe that they are being as complete and forthright as possible. at any time, but especially in the last month before an election, in which you are trying to determine, you know, in a very close race and trying to determine whether to re-elect this president. so there is not that much -- it's time left i suppose for people to make that decision. but just in general, when you are, you know, whether the president can perform the duties of his office, whether he is in a dire physical state or not seems relevant for the american people to know. there are privacy laws that dictate how much the president is obligated to share and how much he can make the decision himself about what he is going to share. in general, just kien of a philosophical, you're the leader of the country question, the american people want to know whether you are healthy, whether
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you are going to be healthy in the next few days and have a full rendering of his state if you are going to be giving updates is kind of imperative on the whole team in the white house. >> patrick, clearly, the president is preoccupied with an image issue. he always has been. he doesn't want to be, you know, seen by anyone as being weak, et cetera. so even the doctors said we are trying to have the most optimistic portrayal of his condition as possible. his chief of staff, mark meadows, last night after being pressed, you know, after the doctors left so many questions, mark meadows said, you know, he is not out offed woods yet. still very critical time and reportedly the president is very upset about that and perhaps today's effort of course correction, you know, they may not have hit the mark. >> yeah, that's right, fred. what's so troubling here is that we are getting all of this constantly confusing information
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that seems due to the fact that the doctors and mark meadows are not trying to provide factual information to the american people. they are trying to provide rosy information that the president will hear when they are carried live, the remarks are carried on cnn, on fox, elsewhere. they are really speaking to an awed yens of one instead of keeping the american people up to date. the president is angry at mark meadows because mark meadows briefly came out and told reporters basically something that was sort of closer to the truth, which was that he had struggled. and then you see mark meadows coming out later yesterday basically going back to the rosy script that the president wants. and now today, fred, we're seeing allies and advisors to the president who are coming out
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again mocking the idea of joe biden wearing masks, sort of downplaying -- >> jason mellor yaccusing biden of using it as a prop. i mean, this message after the president is in the hospital? >> that's right. i mean, the president is in the hospital right now. they are denying a reality. we have a lot of experience with the white house and the trump campaign denying realities, but this is a reality where the president of the united states is in the hospital and yet they are still saying, well, you know, the family, the first family didn't need to be wearing masks at the debate on tuesday night. you know, joe biden looks silly always wearing a mask. you know, somehow we are into now day four of this with the white house in terms of hope hicks and the president testing positive, and their storyline now is that everything is rosier
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and masks aren't essential. >> dr. phillips, that last word, it's one thing, and it was very clear, you know, the president, the white house demonstrating its disdain for masks. then the president gets a diagnosis of positive and that message would still carry on. how does that sit with you? >> well, i think that the importance of masks is very clear. i hope that there are people that are able to learn from the president's example that by not wearing a mask you can get sick. no one is invincible to this. and what i also want to just make clear is that while we are talking about the president and his hospital stay, several thousand americans are going to die of covid during that time period. so please wear a mask. please abide by those social distancing guidelines and remember that we are not out of this yet. >> clearly, most are not getting the kind of access to treatment and medical expertise that, of course, the president of the united states is being afforded.
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millions who are out of work and millions who don't have enough food to feed their families. cnn's natasha chen spoke with struggling families. >> reporter: the first cars in this line arrived three hours before the dekalb county monthly food drive. each got a box of vegetables and meat. meat which has gotten more expensive in grocery stores and, therefore, harder for people like dolores rich to afford on her retirement income. >> they go up sky high. >> reporter: within the first hour of people arriving all 700 tickets accounting for the available boxes at one of three locations were handed out. that's according to michael thurman, the dekalb county ceo who hasn't seen this many people show up for a food drive since the pandemic began. >> the number one issue is i think the initial relief, federal relief, has run out. people have lost the $600 supplement on their unemployment
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insurance. >> reporter: the people we talked to said they had never been to a food drive before unt know, the pandemic. i have always been able to keep food on the table. >> reporter: tonia larkin says before the pandemic she would have misjudged these drives. >> i think i would have judged it wrongly. i would have judged it like it's for poor people or something like that. no, it's not. no, it's not. it's for people in need at this point. it's very humbling. >> reporter: larkins used to work in child care. her husband drives a school bus part time. he builds fences for people. >> it made it real hard. >> we have seen fewer clients, less people planning on doing work that they had planned on, you know. they cut back, said they couldn't do this right now, which i understood. i am not upset at people. >> reporter: the georgia chamber
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of commerce says as of august 22% of georgia businesses have not reopened, including almost a quarter of all restaurants, 40% of bars, businesses even being rough for people supplying the meat being given out in these boxes. >> we are supplementing the fresh fruits and vegetables with protein, but it's also coming from a local atlanta business that needed the business. >> reporter: the georgia commissioner of agriculture and local county officials work together to use federal dollars to help pay formearmers for thed while helping the people who need to eat. >> he is a republican and i'm a democrat, but hunger doesn't affiliate with any authority. i hope you notice the diversity of the people who came through here today. black folks, white folks, asian, hispanic, latino. food insecurity impacts the entire community. >> reporter: unsure how long they will need to continue this routine of waking up early to
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ask for help they didn't need before. that's a concern for how long this need will continue because, as we mentioned, this is a resource coming from federal dollars from the c.a.r.e.s. act, which eventually would dry up. you saw that county ceo there talking about this. h told us he is adamant he wants to figure out a way to continue these drives as long as people need it, fred. >> all right. natasha, thank you so much. all right. and this just in with coronavirus cases rising in several new york city neighborhoods. mayor bill de blasio wants to shut down some non-essential businesses as early as this week. we will have a live report next. good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. [ chuckles ] whoo.
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national security concerns. let me bring in cnn national security analyst and former senior advisor to the national security advisor samantha. good to see you. we know that vice president pence is next in line, but national security is especially paramount right now. what are your concerns about the message that is being conveyed? >> well, the message that's being conveyed by the white house is, unfortunately, adding to the sense of instability when it comes to the u.s. government. right now when we look at the discord and talking points coming from the president's doctor and the chief of staff and others, i am really thinking that a kindergartner could do do a better job of communications. the mishandling of information related to the president's health is sending a message globally that when d comes to the stability of the u.s. government, how the u.s. government is able to function and perform business as usual,
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there are serious downside risks. that really degrades our image globally as a competent global leader. i think about the fact that russia and china have been working for years to discred this image of the united states as stable and an example for other countries to follow. based on how the white house is handling this crisis, they don't have to work very hard anymore. >> you are calling this a code red moment and it sounds like you are describing a host of failures by the president and the white house to rise to the occasion? >> well, that's putting it mildly. they certainly failed to rise to the occasion. from a resource perspective as well, it is a fact that the president cannot fully discharge his duties from his offices at walter reed if he is there for several days. it takes all that a healthy person has to fully work on national security. when you think about the functionality of the national security process, the ability of the president to make fully
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informed, timely national security decisions, that is undoubtedly under pressure, fred. at the same time, critical resources are being diverted just to deal with this crisis. personnel are taking time off to get tested, engage in contact tracing and potentially quarantine. that means that we do not have all hands on deck when it comes to just monitoring the range of threats facing our country. so this is a moment of heightened vulnerability for the united states. >> and you say the fitness of a president is essential to national security, and the president, you know, is being treated for covid-19. do you blame the president or do you blame the people around him for his vulnerability to covid-19? i mean, after all, this is somebody who, you know, has had disdain for wearing a mask. >> the president of the united states is distinctly to blame for his own diagnosis. he has messaged from the get-go that engaging in basic cdc
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guidelines is a sign of weakness. he has mocked members of his own administration for the guidelines that they have put forward. he has mocked president joe biden. he has set the message. i take a step back and think this president wants us to believe what he cares about protecting american lives. that's the message he is sending. the fact that he likely knowingly exposed americans to himself while he was a source of contagion, the fact that this white house failed to engage in immediate contact tracing to ensure that no one else got sick, that really cast rates any content that they are putting out about caring about american national security. and the president is the leader of the united states. he is distinctly to blame for his own ill health right now. >> and apparently officials in other states with where the president traveled the last week, they have not heard from the white house on any kind of efforts of contact tracing. all right.
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all right. there is breaking news. as the coronavirus cases continue to climb at a concerning rate, new york city mayor bill de blasio is proposing closing all nonessential businesses. evan mcmorris san toro, what is the mayor proposing exactly? >> reporter: as you say, fred, this is dramatic news for people in new york city who have been through the worst of this pandemic and been hoping that those numbers were going to go the other way and stay the other way. this is news coming in in the past couple hours. mayor bill de blasio has been
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monitoring about 20 zip codes across the city, saying these are dangerous place where is we've seen numbers above 3% or around 3%, a dangerous number. today he announced that nine of those zip cones have been above 3% for seven consecutive days. this proposal has been approved by governor cuomo. he's proposes in those nine zip codes, public and private schools and nonessential businesses will shut down again, including restaurants, and in the 11 other zip codes that are of concern, other businesses like gyms and pools and indoor dining, which just returned here in new york, will also shut down again on october 7th. now, it's hard to put into words just how dramatic this news is for those of us in new york city, but mayor de blasio talked about it in his press conference
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today. >> today unfortunately is not a day for celebration. today is a more difficult day. i'm going to be giving an update that gives me no joy at all. in fact it pains me to put forward this approach we'll need, but in some parts of our city, in brooklyn and queens we're having an extraordinary problem, something we haven't seen since the spring. >> reporter: now, look, fred, the city's goal is to fight this neighborhood by neighborhood, so as to prevent a large-scale shutdown like we saw in april. it's the early days in this, it starts wednesday, but we'll see what happened. it's a grave cause for concern. >> thank you so much, evan. another nfl game on hold today because of covid-19. that's because new england patriots quarterback cam newton has tested positive, and it's not the only covid problem the league is facing. cnn's coy wire explains, next.
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a game between the new england patriots and the kansas city chiefs that was supposed to be played today is now rescheduled for monday after cam newton tested positive for coronavirus, a high-ranking nfl official has spoken to our coy wire, who is joining us now. what have you learned? >> good to see you, fred. i'm told cam newton went through an entire day of meetings and practice before the team learned of his practice results early saturday. the source also tells me while
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other games have been played as scheduled, this game was postponed so quickly because of the position, calling plays in huddles, leading and speaking in front of so many groups of players. an hour ago, the league aunited states noed there's no new positive cases in today's results, so they have rescheduled the game in kansas city tomorrow at 7:05 eastern pushing back the falcons/packers game to 8:50. four additional tennessee titans have tested positive today, bringing the total to 20 within the organization, ten players, ten staff members. the league source i spoke to yesterday says there's an investigation into whether protocols were being followed. yesterday college football fans were seen in stands all across the country, up to 20,000 stands were in attendance for
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the bulldogs wince over auburn. they were required to wear masks while entering the stadium and in concourse areas, but could remove them while at their seats. there were nearly 8,000 fans with police were forced to clear out the student section in the middle of their upset win, the school saying the students repeatedly ignored requests to wear masks and maintain social distance. we've seen sports opening up with stages with sports with no fans and some. and some of the them yesterday gave the perception there had nine a pandemic is happening anymore. >> the word is not out, there's a pandemic, there's this thing called covid-19, and it's killing people. coy wire, thank you so much. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. hello again, everyone, thank u
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