robinson, who i met in 1991, is still there today. >> being your first lady has been the greatest honor of my life, and i hope i've made you proud. [ cheers and applause ] -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> announcer:this is cnn breaking news. and hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm michael holmes, appreciate your company. we begin with breaking news of u.s. president donald trump's health, spending a third night now at the walter reed medical center. unlike other covid-19 patients who were kept in isolation, this president went on a joyride sunday evening. these images of mr. trump riding in an suv while infectious, raising doubts about how seriously he's taking this virus, even now, especially as

he may be endangering the health of the secret service agents in the car with him. mr. trump tweeting this message before his ride. >> it's been a very interesting journey. i learned a lot about covid. i learned it by really going to school. this is the real school. this isn't the "let's read the book" school, and i get it and i understand it. and it's a very interesting thing, and i'm going to be letting you know about it. >> many medical professional say he didn't learn enough. here's what two doctors had to say to cnn about the president's outing. >> what is the purpose of this? and certainly if you're looking at the risks of the transmission of covid-19, what we know is that being in enclosed spaces is dangerous, masks or no masks. being inside a vehicle that is hermetically sealed circulates virus inside and puts people at risk. >> so, what the president did by insisting on that joyride was

exposed the secret service agents sitting just literally inches away from him to recirculated air. and they have to hope that those masks they're wearing are effective. >> meanwhile, the lack of transparency about the president's condition causing more confusion. the white house physician trying to explain why he's failed to answer basic questions about mr. trump's health. >> i was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction. and in doing so, you know, it came off that we were trying to hide something which wasn't necessarily true. >> one striking detail. doctors say the president is doing well, despite the fact that he's taking all the medications you see there on your list in front of you, including the drug dexamethasone. now, that's a drug typically

given to patients seriously ill, who are on supplemental oxygen or ventilation. cnn's sarah westwood joins me live from walter reed medical center in bethesda, maryland. let's start with the drive-by, waving to supporters. one word, why. >> why is the important word. the president has faced criticism for risk exposure to everyone available in making that outs, but most importantly the secret service agents who rode in the suv with the president during that outing. he was wearing masks and they were wearing medical gear, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're protected. they were potentially exposed to the virus there and may have to quarantine for two weeks because of their proximity to an infectious patient in president donald trump. but despite all that, the white house is saying that appropriate precautions were taken when the

president decided to get in the motorcade and ride by his supporters who have been gathered here for days now at walter reed. they're saying that the medical team made the decision that that outing was okay. clearly this is part of the president's efforts to project the sense of health that he has been trying to achieve through twitter videos, through the white house releasing him pictures of him working at walter reed and other ways. it does raise questions about how seriously the president is taking the virus even as he battles it here at the hospital. >> indeed. what do we know about the state of both treatment and his condition after another day of confusing and conflicting statements from the medical professionals? >> yeah, michael. another day of continuing mentioned signals from this white house. dr. sean conley, the president's physician, and the team of health care providers working with the president did brief reporters here at walter reed earlier today. they said there have been two,

what said call transient drops in the president's oxygen level, so concerning signs there. dr. conley acknowledging for the first time that the president has received supplemental oxygen since testing positive for covid-19 and he was given today a drug called dexamethasone, a steroid given to patients who are typically on a ventilator or requiring oxygen. so, a serious set of developments coming from that press briefing today. but despite all of that, dr. conley said that the president is doing well enough to be discharged soon, potentially as soon as later today, on monday. and that was confusing for a lot of people because it just doesn't fit with the image of a patient who is requiring oxygen and requiring the corticosteroids that the president is taking. dr. conley also acknowledged the criticism he faced from the press briefing he held yesterday -- i mean on saturday -- when he said that he dodged a lot of questions about whether the president had required oxygen since his positive diagnosis. he declined to answer those

questions throughout saturday. but he said he wasn't trying to be evasive. he was just trying to project the upbeat attitude of his patient and of the team. of course his credibility has taken a hit from the saturday briefing and from the questions that his briefing on sunday raised as well, michael. >> yeah, absolutely. good to have you there, sal rah. thanks sara westwood at the walter reed medical center. let's turn to dr. eric topple, card yolgs and professor of medicine. i wanted to ask you about this drive by outing. the president said he understands covid after contracting it, then gets in the car with two other people just to wave at supporters. what was your take on that? >> good to be with you, michael. it really seemed preposterous to put some people at risk, for his

doctors to let him go out like that, of the hospital. it just didn't make any sense at all. >> we're still in many ways -- talking about this earlier. still in many ways having to read between the lines given the opaqueness of official information. what do you make of the known regimen. there's an experimental cocktail which hasn't even been given in emergency use authorization. then remdesivir. now this dexamethasone. what does that tell you about his likely condition and with those medications, the risk versus reward factor? >> sure, it's hard to interpret because we're not getting the real truth. it seems as though he took ill friday morning when his oxygen dropped. that may be the reason why a lot of medications were used. the monoclonal antibody okay tail is something that's really potent, neutralizing antibody,

that has not really been approve. there have been nine other people that have had it for compassionate use. it makes sense in some respects, but of course what triggered it isn't clear. the other two medicines, remdesivir and dexamethasone, as you mentioned, they both are used in severe cases. and what we're told is he only had transient drop in his oxygen blood saturation. so, it isn't making sense, unless he had a more severe case, and they were just trying to use everything. the problem with the dexamethasone is that it suppresses the immune response. so, it isn't a serious condition of the covid illness. it could actually make things considerably worse. >> there are just so many questions unanswered. another thing that came up was this lung scan with so-called expected findings. and that could mean anything, of course. i mean, pneumonia, perhaps in the past. lung issues have included that

so-called ground glass opacity. what are the odds of that being it? we are left to guess. as we've known from others that have recover frd initial infection, there could be lasting impacts from lung scarring and neurological issues and so on. >> absolutely, michael. i think it's fair to say he had abnormalities on the cat scan of his lungs. as you said, the classic or covid is a ground glass opacifications of the pneumonia. and even in people who don't have symptoms of covid, if you do lung scans you'll find those. so, this is pretty clear that with abnormal. and for the hedging to occur which was when asked a question directly, and he said the expected finding. well, the thing you would expect is there was indeed pneumonia. >> yeah, yeah. and to that point, you tweeted on sunday -- and i'm going to quote you on it. you said, it's very sad to see a doctor now trained to lie. of course the truth on all these medical matters inevitably comes

out. that was so well put. how do you think the doctors are handling not the medical side, but the inform the public side. and what are the risks of omission or playing down realities? >> well, playing it down, we've heard that before, right? >> yeah. >> that's what we're seeing from the doctors, especially dr. conley. it's really unfortunately. if he just told us the truth or if he said i would like to tell you about that but the president has specifically said not to divulge that, but not to make things up or try to side step and be evasive. there's been so much obfuscation here. this is a serious matter because if the president is losing oxygen significantly or if he's getting drugs that could infect his mental status, that changes his capacity to function. >> how do patients handle being struck down by the virus in an emotional sense? i'm curious how it changes people in your experience,

especially somebody like the president, who's being so cavalier? i imagine it's quite humbling as well as frightening. >> the main thing is it just sucks out your energy and profound fatigue. that's why when you look at the serial videos, it looks like he may be making clinical improvement. the videos, perhaps tell more than the doctors are telling us. combined with the other symptoms, difficulty breathing that he undoubtedly had when his oxygen dropped precipitously, the high fever he spiked. we're only seeing these things confirmed a couple of days later when they happened on friday. so, you know, i think it's fair to say at one point he was really down and out, and that's probably why they got -- wanted to get him to the hospital as soon as possible. and likely he resisted that for a while. >> is it worrying that despite the positive outlook being put out, and as you say in the video not looking too bad. is it not true that the

progression of many people who have the virus is that there is often a precipitous drop in a patient's condition a week or ten days after the initial symptoms? would you be heightened or cautious right now? >> excellent point. a person can get much more stable for a stretch. then they have disregulation of their immune system, their immune system goes into overdrive and it's basically a cytokine storm. especially in people of advanced age. that could happen. he's not out of the woods by any means. that's why the idea of him going home tomorrow seems a real reach. >> exactly. i just want to ask you a quick question because there's been a lot of talk about the president's the most tested person in the world and there's all these tests going on. but testing isn't prevent, obviously, is it? and finding out that you're positive or negative is secondary to stopping the

infection in the first place. and that's been sort of a bad message in many ways. >> absolutely. you know, the tests that were being done are yroutine he. we don't know when the last test was for the president. the tests are a high sensitivity issue. that is a lot of false negatives to. e are lie on that solely is a big mistake. that's why we need masks. that's why we need physical distancing. this idea he could live if had a bubble and have frequent tests was a flawed one from the start. >> great advice. dr. eric toppol, pleasure into eccing to you. >> take here. thank you. a new poll shows most americans believe it is president trump's own fault he contracted covid-19. the abc news poll finds 72% of americans think the president has not taken the risk of getting the virus seriously enough. and the same amount believe he did not take appropriate precautions when it came to his

own personal health. the democratic presidential nominee joe biden and his campaign announced that on sunday, he again tested negative for the coronavirus. a cnn source familiar with the campaign's testing strategy says biden plans to take a test every time he travels. and he's hitting the campaign trail this week. cnn's imjay lee is be the campaign. >> reporter: president trump seeks treatment at walter reed hospital for covid-19, joe biden's campaign continuing their normal campaign activities. later today we're going to see the former vice president travel to florida. and what the biden campaign has announced is that they are now going to make sure that biden is tested more frequently for the virus than he had been previously. and you'll recall that last friday, shortly after news broke that president trump had tested positive for the virus, biden himself announced that he was tested twice for the virus. and both of those test results came back negative.

and we also learned last night, sunday night, that he had taken another test that also came back negative. i also just want to point out heading into this week that the big political event that is coming up is the first and only vice presidential debate between vice president mike pence and senator kamala harris. and what cnn can report is that the biden campaign had raised some concerns about the amount of space between pence and harris on the debate stage. and after talks and negotiations, instead of 7 feet between the candidates, now we are going to see 12 feet. so, more space than originally planned. and finally the one thing that is entirely unclear right now because of the president's status is what is going to happen to the second presidential debate that was slated for later this month. back to you. >> thanks m.j. and the next debate will be between democratic vice presidential nominee senator

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welcome back. the lack of clarity from president trump's medical team about his health is raising concerns about just how sick he really is with the coronavirus. and it certainly didn't help things when he bolted from the hospital for a short time on sunday to wave at supporters. brian stelter has a look at the fallout. >> reporter: yes, if this photo op was meant to be reassuring, it had the opposite effect. there was an avalanche of concern about the secret service officers who were in the car with the president who were in the car for this bizarre publicity stunt. the white house immediately spoke out and denounced the

circumstances of the trip. the white house press pool, which is a small group of reporters which were supposed to travel with reporters at all times was not notified about this trip and was not with the president during this drive along the road near walter reed. here's a state from the white house association pointing out this is a break of protocol that is very concerning. quote, it is outrageous for the president to have left the hospital, even briefly, amid a health crisis without a protective pool present to ensure that the american people know where their president is and how he is doing. now more than ever the american public deserves independent coverage of the president so they can be reliebly informed about his health. there's a lot of propaganda coming from the white house, these photos that may or may not be staged that make the president look like he is doing well. what we need is independent news coverage to verify those assertions. we do know according to white

house sources telling cnn that the president is watching some news coverage, he is paying attention to what is being said about him. jim acosta is angry with white house chief of staff mark meadows because meadows told the reporters that the president is not doing as well as he claimed. these medical doctors seem to be per formans put on for the president. that is very concerning no matter what you think of american politics. everybody should accurate information about the president's health. back to you. >> julian is a cnn analyst. he's coming to me now from new york. great to see you again. furs of all, what did you make of that drive-by outing? the president said he understands covid after contracting it, then gets in a car with two other people to wave to supporters. it wasn't a coronavirus teaching

moment? was it just ego? >> no, no, it showed the opposite of what he was saying. there he is both endangering people in the car and also just taking this lightly even when he's in the middle of it. so, i think it sends the exact wrong message, and i don't think it shows strength. but it just raises more questions of even when he has covid, does he understand what the nation has been through? >> yeah. one of the issues, of course, is this is a white house that already has a huge credibility problem. and more gaps and obfuscation on sunday from the doctors. how big is the what do we believe factor? and how important is that americans know the full picture when it comes to the health of their president? >> this is the moment the credibility gap really hurts the president. i don't think many people are fully confident with what the doctors are saying, what his staff are saying. they don't know what's going on. and transparency is important. i think americans deserve to

know what is the status of the president. they deserve to know that in the middle of a pandemic when we need all our leaders really working on this issue full-time. and americans are already voting. and i think they deserve to know exactly what the status of the president is. so, this lack of credibility and transparent is a big problem. >> yeah, that is true. they are already voting. biden has, meanwhile, removed negative ads while donald trump is hospitalized. now, in purely political terms, should he not be full steam ahead at the moment. trump not only didn't slow down when hillary clinton had pneumonia, but he ridiculed her multiple times and used it against her and the trump campaign continues on with negative ads. >> yeah, i don't think biden has to change his strategy. obviously you don't mock the president or you don't say anything that's out of bounds about the president.

but biden and the democrats can continue to criticize the administration to, make an argument about what's at stake in the election. there's no reason to just stop the campaign because of this. and in fact, it brings to the table the issue of the pandemic and the policies we need in the next few months or years to deal with it. so, i think biden would actually make a mistake by going silent. i am sure republicans will not. so, let's see what he does. >> yeah, exactly. i want to go back to the president's ego, if you like, when it comes to transparency. cnn is reporting now the president's aversion to appearing weak and sick is what's driving this effort to project resolve, as it was called, even if what is being projected is not true. how concerning is that, that there's almost automatic doubt about what's being said publicly and that the president sees this as political rather than a health issue as we saw today? >> it's obviously not safe for him so he's not being very

careful with his own body. i think it reveals how the president feels about covid is a sign of weakness. it's almost the wrong thing to be worried about and take steps to make sure it goes away. and i think through his own actions in the last few hours, he revoleals a lot of why his policies look the way they do. he doesn't want to wear masks. he mocks social distancing. and i think it reflects the same thing that's driving him to go out and show he's okay. he's not okay right now. he needs to recover like a lot of the nation needs to recover. and i think it's pretty problematic. >> i wanted to ask you too, it's not just donald trump, of course. it seems like half of capitol hill after that event is starting to test positive. and those diagnosis have sort of enveloped the white house and congress as well in many ways. how might the reality hitting home potentially change the political narrative we've seen,

particularly from the republican side. >> yeah, it's a big question. republicans have not changed their narrative very much, even when people around them are constituents are live being the nightmare that this pandemic has been. so, the question is when it affects them personally, when they're own bodies are on the line, does this change how they think about it? i'm not so sure. i mean, the president's earlier response suggests even when ill he's not totally changing his narrative. so, i'm not convinced republicans are going to all of a sudden be public health advocates and joining dr. fauci in supporting more aggressive steps to contain this virus right now. >> extraordinary times to be a political analyst. good to see you, as always. >> thanks for having me. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back here on cnn newsroom, more on what we know and what we do not know about when president trump got the coronavirus and how he's doing

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as we all know well, that is not always enough to protect people when they're in close proximity to people infected with the virus and in closed quarters like they were. cnn kaitlan collins has been tracking the story from the start. she has the latest details for us now. >> reporter: well, on a day when the president's physicians revealed his levels of oxygen have been fluctuating over the last 48 hours and he started to be administered a steroid in addition to that other antibody cocktail he had received a day before, this is the president the president decided to leave walter reed only for a few moments to participate in a drive-by for his supporters. the trip started immediately raising questions about whether or not the president was putting the secret service agents in the car with him at risk. as you can see, the secret service agents were wearing face shields, medical grade masks and gones over their clothing.

the white house did say the president's medical team did clear the trip. dr. sean conley is his primary doctor and the comments he's been making at two of the briefings they've held in recent days have only raised more questions than they have answered because he has typically tried to avoid specific questions about the president's vitals even though they are crucially important. and nevin a press conference on sunday, he revealed that a lot of this has to do with the patient he's treating, saying that he wanted to reflect the upbeat mood of the president. though of course he's a doctor and that is certainly not his requirement. it's more to provide an accurate assessment of the status of the president of the united states. that's something that has raised several criticisms out of the white house as well as the white house staff including the chief of staff and the press secretary who would not say if president trump was tested before he went to that debate with joe biden in cleveland on tuesday or if he was tested before he went to that fund-raiser in new jersey

on thursday, which of course we now know he had already learned that his top aide, hope hicks, had tested positive. kaitlan collins, cnn at the white house. quick break here on the program. when we come back, bars and cafes in paris will soon close for a couple of weeks. coronavirus getting bad there once again. we'll be live for you in the french capital when we come back. is not the same. it's our sharpest ever, and while some other companies would charge more for something new, we don't.

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the u.s. has seen its worst five-day period for new cases of covid-19 since mid-august according to johns hopkins university. more than 232,000 new infections were reported from last tuesday through saturday. that's an average of more than 46,000 cases a day. los angeles tops the list for the most covid-19 infections and deaths in the u.s.

more than 6,600 people have died from the virus in l.a. county alone. turning our attention to the uk and british health officials say they failed to report more than 15,000 coronavirus cases because of a, quote, technical issue. that brings the country's total to more than 502,000 cases. and paris is to get another taste of lockdown measures as coronavirus cases rise. french authorities will put the capital and surrounding region on what they call maximum alert this week. that means additional restrictions in public areas to slow the spread of the virus. melissa bell joins me now live from paris to tell us what that entails. melissa. >> reporter: michael, it was another grim milestone that was reached over the course of the weekend on saturday, another record rise in the number of new cases. the figures have been going up

and up. and in cities like paris, we've watched them get steadily worse. the french authorities have outlined a specific set of criteria, on which decided whether a city, because this is decided on a regional level, moved up to extra alert for further restrictions. the three criteria for determining whether the paris region should be in maximum alert category were reached several days ago but it took authorities a while to anoun what was going on. we're going to hear about the latest tightening of restrictions for the greatest paris area. what we will hear we've been hearing from the prime minister's office, this has been confirmed to cnn, is that bars and cafes will be closed from tuesday and from tuesday officially, paris goes into that maximum alert category, joining the city that had been inside it for the last two weeks. interestingly though, for the last week or so, they've had restaurants entirely closed. we had expected that to be announced for paris, but there's been such pushback from

restaurateurs not to go through a second lockdown, not to close restaurants once again. we understand restaurants will be open. but still further tightening of restrictions and numbers that just keep going up. for instance, the incidence rate that needs to be met for the city to go to maximum alert, 250 for every 100,000 people, that is now 270 here in the greater paris region. when you look at the age group between 20 and 29, this is more than 540 per 100,000. it is the young that have really been driving this second wave. >> melissa, thank you. melissa bell there in paris for us. we will take a quick break. when we come back for our international viewers, it's going to be world sport. for those of you in the u.s., wall street wall street looks to rally despite uncertainty over president trump's health. we'll tell you how u.s. futures are looking so far.

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now, the president was reportedly furious with his chief of staff for telling reporters that his vital signs early friday were concerning. this whole lack of transparency on the president's condition and his treatment for that matter, leaves experts to read between the lines. >> he's definitely sicker than they've let on. all day on friday, they were underplaying resting comfortably when he was actually feverish, fatigued. his oxygen saturation was going down. they had to put him on oxygen. you don't jump to remdesivir, which isn't yet indicated for the supposed condition he had, and you don't add an experimental cocktail which hasn't even been given emergency use thoracic zalauthorization, e really, really worried and things are much worse. >> let's turn to cnn's national security analyst. good to see you, sam. how does the lack of clarity

from the white house and the president's own medical team impact issue of national security? >> well, michael, the white house team is shooting themselves in the foot by having such inconsistent and seemingly untrue messages about the president's status. during crisis times, a core focus for the u.s. government is to send messages about stability. that's to really desuede maligned actors to take advantage of the vulnerabilities in the national security apparatus. this time around the team is so incompetent at communications that they look completely disorganized and untruthful. and that degrades any semblance of stability the administration might be putting forward. concurrently we know maligned actors like china and russia have been trying to discredit the united states as a competent leader for a time and that's not based upon the president's status and the disorganized

approach to communicating the state of his health. >> worrying analysis. how does what is happening to him impact or potentially impact his ability to effectively run the country and make considered judgments focus on the crucial issues, especially with the current situation but also if there are lingering effects. is that a concern? >> it certainly is. the president's health and keeping the president healthy is a primary focus for the white house physician during normal circumstances. the president needs to have full physical fitness as well as mental acuity at all times. suffering from a deadly pandemic, having low oxygen levels, being at walter reed, not having as regular access to his staff, that inhibits the president ability to fully discharge his abilities. we're not at the point where he's under anesthesia like some of his predecessors.

but in my opinion the president cannot discharge his duties where he's in a compromised state like this for several days. i'm deeply concerned about how the national security process is working in addition to the stability of the u.s. government as we just discussed. >> yeah, i mean, obviously and understandably we understand honesty and transparency about the president's medical condition. but -- and we're not getting it. but, you know, are there national security implications other than that? no white house in modern history has ever completely levelled with the public about a president who was in a precarious health position. is there any defensible reason for that? >> i really can't see one. you know, we talk about this being -- i talk about this being an unprecedented situation. i fiend it to be so unprecedented because we have a u.s. president who seemingly knew that he could be a contagion risk, went to a fund-raiser in new jersey, was around his staff and was really just a walking infection without

taking any measures to try to mitigate the adverse impact he could have on the people around him. when we talk about national security, that doesn't really scream that this president cares about american lives. it screams quite the opposite. and there's an adverse strategic effect on our national security for that reason. it appears that the u.s. president is really mostly concerned on making political fund reasonable causers versus the safety and security of his own staff, their families and the american people that he was trying to fund raise with. >> you were there in the white house in the obama administration, in the national security apparatus. are you confident that the system of national security can run on auto pilot in this sort of situation, or are there gaps now in terms of all hands on deck? does that create vulnerabilities itself? >> critical resources have undoubtedly been redirected from their day jobs to focus on this current crisis. that's time, attention and

resources that aren't focusing on other threats because they're really focused on containing this virus, working on crisis communications and more. but michael comparing my experience under president obama and the national security apparatus, the national security apparatus we currently have in place is apples and oranges. i was confident under president obama that the people we had working in the community were fully functional and there was a process for making decisions and integrating intelligence. at this point, the intelligence community, which is key right now. they have to be monitoring increased threats to the homeland, how foreign actors are perceiving this moment. the intelligence community has atrophied so much under president trump as he's trarned them. and the national security process before this pandemic was really falling down on the job. so, we are just adding a crisis on top of existing crises that the national security app rarat was facing under president

trump. >> worrying but important analysis as always. man a pleasure in new york. thank you. let's take a look at the markets, how they are reacting to president trump's coronavirus infection. right now u.s. futures are up, stocks in asia trading higher during the day, as you can see there. to explain it all and break it down for us, john defterios live for us in abu dhabi. it's a big shift from friday's level of selling whafrmt the drivers? >> well, this is interesting. it's kind of two factors at play here, michael. number one, no matter who's sitting in the president's chair when you have such a scare like we had friday and to see some stabilization, although not with complete clarity, it does settle the mood in the market. also, i think we have to point to the polls release over the weekend from the "wall street journal" and nbc news shows a lead of 14% for joe biden. this does take out this idea at

election day we're going to have a hung situation there for a month and whether the president would leave. it was a really tight election and the mail-in ballots, right? so, let's talk a look at the u.s. futures. again, they're up about a half a percent to 2/3 of one percent. it's worth looking at asia again because these markets were down friday. australia is having a good day because of the tim lus package put into place. we had the oil market drop better than 4% friday. it's regaining nearly half of those losses but having a problem holding on to $40 a barrel. the biggest concern is what happens in 2021 with vaccines coming on to the market, how they're distributed to emerging markets, big developing countries of the world. that will depend on what happens in growth in second half of 2021. so, there's some stability in the market today, but still a lot of uncertainty how this plays out on growth, not just for next year but going into

2022 as well. >> yeah, good point. there's a wildcard out there, and that is the lack of sort of the clarified stimulus plan. what impact will that have if that stimulus plan is not defined any time soon? >> that's a good point you're raising here. michael, we've talked about it for three months. they've been kicking this around back and forth between the house democrats and the senate republicans and the white house. the house democrats say the deal is near. the white house says the same. you notice that the republicans have not voiced that same sort of confidence here. and that's because they don't want to spend as much money. they think we're building up too much debt and that is a pretty fair argument. at the same time, the house speaker, nancy pelosi, was telling the airlines don't rush to judgment here. don't furlough the workers because a package is coming. but the airline answer has been, the ceos from those carriers has said you're not moving fast enough. here's speaker pelosi over the

weekend. >> what i said to the airline executives in a public statement is don't fire the people. you know that relief is on the way. so, it will be retro active. so, let's keep them employed because separate from other industri industries, when you're let go and the airline industry takes months or years to be recertified, reclassified. >> but what's the role of the house and the senate here, michael, is to get something passed. but then the bigger picture is what is life after stimulus? i would argue going into the elections, the growth has been driven by that $3 trillion spending package. we're wanting for more. but then you have to stay in 2021, can you continue to spend at this level because of the debt situation? and the simple answer is no. and eventually taxes will have to go up to pay for it. >> yeah, whoever wins the election is going to inherit a

massive deficit and debt level. always a pleasure. john defterios. >> thanks. now, president trump's supporters briefly shut down ne caravan of supporters honking horns and waving trump 2020 flag. they say they'll keep fighting for the president as he fights coronavirus. >> how do we feel? we love him. we know he's down for a little bit, but we know he's going to be fine. he's a fighter. he took on an impeachment. he took on a phony russian hoax. he took up every phony thing the media came up with. we're not going to stop fighting for him. >> president trump is getting support from the vatican as he battles covid-19, this coming as pope francis is weighing in on how the pandemic has affected health care systems around the world. cnn's delia gallagher with more

from rome. >> reporter: the vatican sec taur of state told cnn on sunday that the vatican is praying for president trump. the cardinal said that the vatican was sorry to hear of the president's illness, that they are following it and pray r for him, as well as all those who are ill with covid-19. the cardinal's comments come as pope francis has released his newest form of papal document which the pope says among other things that the pandemic has revealed the failure of free market capitalism of country's health care systems and that a better kind of politics, the pope said, is need. delia gallagher, cnn rome. >> thanks for spending part of your day with me. i'm michael holmes. don't go anywhere though. "cnn newsroom" continues. if you've had enough of australians, too bad. rosemary church will be back after the break. on the award-winning ww app, you can take a personal assessment and get matched with a customized plan.

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