night. they believe it is at a safe distance, podiums were 12 feet away. but you sort of, if you're a biden supporter or internally in the biden campaign, you want a couple more negative results for joe biden. >> the former vice president saying he would debate if doctors say it is okay. thank you. >> thanks, john. hello to viewers in the united states and around the world. john king in washington. thank you for sharing an important breaking news day with us. another member of the president's inner circle now testing positive for coronavirus. this time it is the press secretary, kayleigh mcenany. the covid positive list in the west wing so far, the president, first lady, head of trump campaign, head of republican party, president's personal assistant, three top presidential confidants, hope hicks, kellyanne conway, and chris christie, and two republican senators that attended the packed white house

supreme court rollout last weekend. regardless of positive cases, the president agitating to leave the hospital and get back to the white house. he will talk to doctors later today about possible discharge which could put him back at the white house by tonight. doctors familiar with covid-19 say that would be -- twice needed oxygen to help him breathe, has taken a steroid generally reserved for serious covid cases. the president insisted secret service take him for this joy ride yesterday to wave to supporters outside walter reed medical center. secret service agents locked in a bulletproof, hermetically sealed suv with a covid patient. dr. fauci says he is not involved in the president's treatment but says the president's doctors are excellent. the president's sunday drive, four or five days into his symptoms. in other words, way too soon. >> the general guidelines are

when is it safe for a person to go out from the time they get symptoms, probably ten days from onset of symptoms. you usually have no virus and in studies that are done, those people are generally not at all infective to other people. >> the white house press secretary as we noted, kayleigh mcenany, now the latest in the president's inner circle to test positive for covid-19. let's get straight to kaitlan collins live at the white house. it is stunning. the building behind you is really a coronavirus hot spot. >> reporter: yeah, we're now seeing how many people tested positive and the list is continuing to grow. john, while we obviously wish kayleigh mcenany well and that she has a speedy recovery from coronavirus, this is a sign of how the white house thinks the rules do not apply to them. kayleigh mcenany was told thursday hope hicks had tested positive and she was someone who was considered to have direct contact with hope hicks. however, she did not quarantine as is recommended, if you have

come into sustained contact with someone that tested positive, and instead relied on negative tests she took every day and continued to come to work as she did on friday when she gag eld with reporters outside without a mask and as she did yesterday, with reporters briefly for two minutes, but still once again taking her mask off as she was approaching the microphone. it shows this level of recklessness inside the white house where she is relying on having negative tests as you've seen several other officials as well despite the fact that she did come into contact with someone we now know is positive. actually two people. she was also obviously around president trump as well and hope hicks. so it goes to show how the white house has responded to this when everyone else, if you had come into contact with someone that tested positive, told you were in direct contact, you would go in quarantine and she chose not to do that as have several other officials as well. it is not just raising concerns about how we're seeing how prolific the outbreak is in the

west wing and in the president's inner circle but also how they're responding to it and not doing what medical experts advised, and instead are not isolating when someone tests positive. they continue to come to work because kayleigh mcenany said she was considered an essential worker. now she has to quarantine and work remotely the next two weeks. this also raises questions on other people that rely on negative tests. the chief of staff is probably the first one that comes to mind. his staffer did say he has tested negative once again today, but he is someone that's been at walter reed with the president. yesterday, the president did a briefing with his national security adviser and defense secretary virtually, but a picture from the white house shows president trump receiving the briefing, not wearing a mask, and it says in the caption that mark meadows was in the room. says he was not pictured but was in the room as well. you presume he is wearing a mask, but the president that has coronavirus wasn't. it raises questions how the white house responded to this and how they have been

irresponsible at best in the way they've taken positive cases and instead of quarantining like they were told to do or advised to do by the cdc guidelines, they instead believe that a negative test grants them immunity from coronavirus. what we are seeing with kayleigh mcenany testing positive shows that it doesn't. now, a few other officials, john, pulled off the trip on thursday, that's when hope hicks was testing positive, kayleigh mcenany maintains she didn't know hope hicks tested positive when she briefed reporters in the briefing room without a mask thursday. but we were told she was pulled off the trip to new jersey that day. there's an inkling something was going on, yet she continued to hold a briefing, and were told later she was informed that hicks tested positive. >> it is as you put it reckless behavior. kaitlin collins at the white house. let's continue the conversation. joining me, dana bash, and assistant secretary of health

with the obama administration. i will start with you. if you were the white house doctor, working with agencies and the chief of staff called you and said what should we do, the president wants to be released from the hospital, wants to come back to the white house. it is clearly a coronavirus cluster point at the moment. when you see the mounting cases, the president, the first lady, now the press secretary, others who have been in the white house, what must be done at the white house now? >> well, john, there's so many issues here at the white house. the white house is a microcosm of the last several days of what's happened in the country over many months. cdc guidelines are so clear. if a person is diagnosed, they need to be isolated and get the care and treatment they need and deserve. then people who are exposed should be quarantined for 14 days. that was not followed at the white house. then in the meantime with respect to the president's care, there's so many questions about status of his condition, how severe his disease is.

one example, john, is that he received dexamethasone, which is reserved only for people with severe covid. that alone raises concerns about his condition. we need to know a lot more about whether he has pneumonia or not, what his lung imaging tests show. you put that all together, the thought of releasing him today to go back to the white house seems very unrealistic to me and i think all physicians. and we need so much caution right now. our health is so precious and fragile and needs to be protected. >> it needs to be protected. any president deserves the best protection obviously. we'll see, we could hear from the president's doctors any minute, we know he is agitating to get out of the hospital and get to the white house. that's built on the president thinks it is weak to be hospitalized in any case, thinks he doesn't want to be hospitalized and look weak 29 days before an election. he took a joy ride last night, putting two secret service agents at deep risk in an suv.

and he tweeted this video in which the president said having covid has taught him a lot. listen. >> it's been very interesting journey. i learned a lot about covid. i learned it by really going to school. this is the real school. this isn't the let's read the book school. and i get it and i understand it. >> what does he get and understand if he's putting two secret service agents at risk leaving the hospital four, five days into symptoms when any doctor would tell you should be at least ten days. when you see at just outlined, continued behavior at the white house, the president goes to a fundraiser after told hope hicks is positive and he was definitely exposed. kayleigh mcenany in the briefing room after being around hope hicks. at the white house again yesterday. they have not learned the lessons. >> no. two things. number one, why does it take getting coronavirus to go to school? he has an entire covid task

force set up. why didn't he go? why didn't he study not as a patient but as a president. that's number one. but number two, you're absolutely right. he is trying to politically at least somehow find a silver lining which is show empathy, show understanding with that statement you just heard from the president. but you're right. it completely flies in the face of the actions that the president has taken not just beforehand, which was reckless in going to have a meeting with his own donors in new jersey, knowing he was exposed, but while he is in walter reed. we heard from doctors who are working there saying are you kidding me, this is a ridiculous idea to go into his car which is hermetically sealed with other

people, it's just not fair. those secret service agents, that's what they go in for. they train to take a bullet for the president. but i don't think they train to take a bullet from the president and in this case, the bullet being covid-19. >> nobody should have to be put at harm's way because their boss or in this case the person they protect decides to do something reckless, but they have no choice. they have no choice. doctor, one of the issues is transparency. the president's doctor admitting yesterday that he was misleading about certain things because he wanted to be more upbeat in public and knows the president watches him on television. another question that neither the doctor or white house will answer, when is the last time the president tested negative for coronavirus. let's listen. >> what was the date of the president's last negative test? >> i'm not getting into the testing going back but he -- and the staff are routinely tested.

>> i'm not giving you a detail with time stamps every time he was tested. he tested regularly, first positive test was after he returned from bedminster. >> help a viewer understand why that's critical information, not only as you as the doctor for the president's care, when was the last negative test, we can grade how severe symptoms are right now, and for people that work in that complex who are not getting information from the chief of staff or from anyone else about risks in the building. >> you're right, john. the question of his last negative test is really important not just for the president himself, future course of his care, but also looking back to see who may have been within six feet of him more than 15 minutes, and therefore need to be contacted by tracers and potentially quarantined. when you stop and think about it, there's going to be massive contact tracing effort that

needs to be coordinated now, not just by the white house but health officials in d.c. and in new jersey and in minnesota and possibly even ohio, so those are a lot of people who have been exposed, many at the highest levels of government. that's why we need the best care for the president right now from medical terms and also the best public health interventions with respect to contact tracing. >> can i jump in on that, john? that's not happening. it is not happening. everybody from our friend, michael sherer, reporter for "new york times," he is positive with covid, has been contacted by nobody. also the case for someone like chris christie, in debate prep, next to the president, has covid, is in the hospital. he has been called to see how he's doing but not to see who he has been in contact with. it isn't happening at all. this is the white house. this is the highest levels of government that they should know how to do this, and it is not

happening. >> all right. let me add, the governor of new jersey said earlier today they've gotten names of people at the president's golf club at bedminster, but the white house has contact numbers, emails and the like and haven't passed that information on as well. important breaking story. appreciate the reporting. up next for us, we continue to track the country's covid issue. 22 states reporting rising case numbers. the pandemic showing signs of surging again. we're carvana, the company who invented

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are turning the wrong direction, it is getting colder. public health experts warned this was coming, get baseline down. 23 states heading in the wrong direction, 23 holding steady. only five with fewer infections compared to a week ago. if you look at the case trend, this is peak of summer surge, 18,000 are so cases a day before memorial day. you see where we are now, above 40,000 new infections a day on average. saturday down to 35,504. sunday, 35, saturday, 50,000 plus. we'll watch in the week ahead. the trend line is above 40,000 new infections a day, way too high of a baseline. death trend line is trickling down a little bit. 687 saturday, 337 sunday. counts over the weekend are generally down a bit. we will watch through the week ahead. all of the experts remind us, this is a lagging indicator. if case counts are going up, this will follow. most projections say this will

head up soon. you look at the positivity map, percentage of tests coming back positive, focus on the northern half of the country. 23% in hide hoe. 18% in missouri. 21% in wisconsin. all states, northern half of the country, high positivity rate. which means more cases today, more likelihood of more infections tomorrow. seven day average of new cases now, 43,000. above 43,000 new infections a day now. remember, it was down to 18,000 in may. 43,000 plus now. which is why dr. fauci says i'm really worried. >> i am certainly not pleased, satisfied, but i'm disturbed and concerned about the fact our baseline of infections is still stuck around 40,000 a day. that's no place to be when you try to get your arms around an

epidemic. >> doctor, just expand on what dr. fauci is trying to say. he has been saying for months, you need to shut that baseline down. 40,000 plus infections a day means we are in a horrible place as it gets colder and people start to go inside. >> you're right, john. dr. fauci's comments are very concerning for all of us, for new cases a day, numbers you reviewed remind us we are double the numbers where we were after memorial day. those numbers should be way down now because we're heading into flu season, that's another threat for all of us, second wave of covid may be coming as well. we now have well over 200,000 deaths nationwide since the pandemic started. some projections are that number may close to double by end of the year. the president's diagnosis as distressing and disturbing as it is hopefully will be a solemn wakeup call for the country. we need to double down on public

health and prevention. we need universal mask usage. we need to be as careful as possible about our health as we move forward to the rest of the year. >> the question is, will lead at the top and people around the country listen. experts like yourself have been sounding alarms. dr. scott gottlieb in "the wall street journal" failures compounded failures. after the shutdowns came political backlash. as a result, in the teenth mont there's a risk it will turn into a third wave of infection that could dwarf prior surges, could end up dwarfing prior surjs. we were at 18,000 infections in may. summer surge got us above 70,000 in some cases. that's starting from baseline of 18,000, you get to high 60s, 70,000 new infections a day. if you start from baseline of 44,000, how high could that go?

>> the concern here, john, is that the numbers can keep rising, hospitalizations can rise. we know in a typical flu season, we can have hundreds of thousands in hospitals and overwhelm the system more. this is a time we have to rally around and double down on prevention. that's the message going out for months. we have to take it really seriously right now. so if we rally around, try to do this as united country, hopefully we can make a difference as flu season comes and get a safe and effective covid vaccine sooner rather than later. >> we can hope for that. although we are told end of the year maybe at the earliest. doctor, thank you for staying around, your patience an important insights. another positive coronavirus case inside the white house. what we know about contact tracing happening or not happening inside the government.

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today's breaking news, the white house press secretary has coronavirus puts new focus on contact tracing in the west wing. kayleigh mcenany was told she was in close contact with hope hicks, that's why she was pulled off the president's trip to new jersey thursday. this morning, dr. fauci said he

is not involved in contact tracing at the white house but spoke broadly about why the tracing is so critical. >> when you get cases, if you have a situation where someone comes into contact and is infected and you know there are people around him, the important public health measure is do the contact tracing to get people that have been exposed to go into appropriate quarantine, get tested, do things that are clearly delineated in the cdc guidelines. >> with us to share insights and expertise, emily gurly, infectious disease especial epidemiologist. thank you for your time today. we have another case obviously in the west wing. we know kayleigh mcenany was pulled off the trip, but then she also briefed. if you talk to people around the white house, they say there's been very little, if any, of this detailed contact tracing. explain to viewers why it is so

critical. >> so there are really two parts to contact tracing. the first is letting people know they have been exposed and these cases are pretty high profile. it sounds like people know they have been exposed. but then the second part, most important part for stopping transmission is quarantine. when people know they have been exposed, they should be limiting all contact with others so they don't spread the infection further. this seems to be where the lapse is. >> right. so i want to show you the picture, this is a week ago saturday, amy coney barrett rollout at the white house for the supreme court nomination. you see red circles, all those people tested positive. just to the left center of the screen, you see kayleigh mcenany who made this traffic for the program, there she is as well. you have eight or nine people that tested covid positive. the vice president, mike pence, circles in yellow has consistently tested negative. looking at this event, you have senators, cabinet members, people from university of notre dame. there are a bunch of people, am

i right, doctor, just in this photo alone that a, should be quarantined, b, should be making a list who they came in contact with. >> that's right. that's the current guidance from the cdc and what's used in contact tracing programs across the united states. >> and the president thursday went to bedminster, new jersey, after told hope hicks and another close contact had tested positive. he went to a fundraiser in new jersey. listen to the governor. the white house has given them some names but not the details they need. >> we're taking the lead. we got on it immediately, both at the state level and local level, but we need cooperation from the feds. we ultimately got a list of attendees by midafternoon friday, but we need more cooperation out of the administration. >> i mean, the numbers get daunting when you think about 43,000 on average now new infections in the country every

day. when you have a president that knows he has been exposed, gets on a helicopter, close quarters with aides, gets on an airplane, close quarters with no ventilation, goes to a fundraiser with a couple hundred people, help us through the math of the number of people potentially exposed because people were not being basic responsible. >> yeah. clearly it's a lot. the rules and guidance around quarantine when you have been exposed are very clear. getting people to do the right thing obviously is much more difficult. but the sad thing is, that does lead to further infections, but i'm glad they're working the public health folks in new jersey, this is the role of public health. they should be working very closely with all of the jurisdictions where people have been exposed live. it is those folks that have to take the responsibility for helping facilitate the process. >> one would think that the head of government, we have been talking about this for months,

there are apps created for this, teams created for this, the government is surging people around the country. listen here, one of the correspondents at the event, now covid positive, says the phone is not ringing. >> it's now, you know, ten days, 11 days since i think i was probably infected on that saturday. i have not been contacted by the white house. nobody from the white house has said boo and asked anything about where i was or who i talked to or who else i might have infected. that shows you that they're not, you know, taking it seriously, at least as pertains to themselves. >> you mention, dr. gurly, it is a high profile event. obviously people that are there, unless they've gone in a cave know they're exposed, they're watching news coverage and understand this. but does the responsibility go away to build the list of the other people, your friends, family, your children that you might have been in contact with

because if you're supposed to know, are you supposed to do that yourself or is there supposed to be active effort anyway? >> there should be an active effort anyway, let's be clear. those folks need to be in quarantine and need to be followed closely for development of symptoms and then they're contact traced if there's indication they were infected. again, that does fall on the responsibility primarily of the local health jurisdictions where those people reside, but they need the information from the white house to do their jobs. again, as you mention, given the scale of the number of people infected, it is unlikely they have the band width to do that, and they should be working with local health programs, providing them all the information they need to do their job. >> it would be nice seven months into this if the left hand knew how to talk to the right hand, so on and so forth. doctor, thank you for your important insights. still ahead, joe biden is on the control, yes, with his mask. he says he would still be open

to debating the president if the doctors say the president is safe.

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joe biden in battleground florida today, back on the campaign trail after testing negative for coronavirus repeatedly, following last week's debate with president trump, there was concern the president may have already been infected with covid back at debate time. the former vice president scheduled to hold an in person campaign event in miami later today and town hall tonight. cnn politically correspondent is following the campaign from miami. back on the trail, they say they'll continue to campaign safely. >> reporter: that's right, john. joe biden is moving forward with

his plans for in person campaigning, setting up contrast of a candidate out on the campaign trail and a president who is in the hospital due to coronavirus. biden's campaign believes they set up an effective model to campaign in a way where they are following safety and health guidelines of each different area that they're visiting. biden tested negative for coronavirus again yesterday. his campaign saying he will be tested more regularly, and they'll also reveal results of every test that he takes. biden, we saw him earlier today boarding his plane in delaware wearing a mask, adhering to standards his campaign has set as he has campaigned. biden was asked by reporters about the president's trip outside walter reed yesterday. biden said he was reluctant to comment on president trump's health, he would leave that to the doctors. he did talk a little about the possibility of debating the president on october 15th here

in miami. take a listen. >> listen to the science. if the scientists say that -- i'm sorry, if the scientists say that it is safe from distance is safe, it is fine. i'll do whatever experts say is the appropriate thing to do. >> you saw jill biden being a bit of an enforcer, reminding her husband to step back more to maintain that social distance from reporters. we're going to see biden here in miami a little later today, this critical battleground state of florida where he is going to court the hispanic vote. president trump made some in roads with hispanic voters, particularly cubans here in florida. biden will be traveling to two neighborhoods here, little haiti and near little havana as he tries to court hispanic voters heading into the election as he is now 29 days out from election

day. he is the candidate out on the campaign trail today. john? >> keep in touch. see how the campaign day goes for the vice president. three senators testing positive in recent days should be a wakeup call for congress. the senate hitting pause on floor votes the next two weeks. there's still no plan for widespread testing at the capitol complex. manu raju live on capitol hill. no testing in place, and a sensitive time for congress. >> reporter: right before confirmation hearings begin, democrats want testing to be done of all members of the senate judiciary committee before confirmation hearings next week. there's no plan to do that. republicans plan to push ahead. despite the bipartisan push for testing to happen in the house and senate, the republican leader of the senate, mitch mcconnell, has not embraced it, and democratic house speaker nancy pelosi hasn't embraced calls for widespread testing on

the house side of the capitol. that led to bipartisan concern because of the growing number of cases and fear that members were up here on a daily basis, interacting, while wearing masks, going to meetings, going out, speaking and the senate having lunch meetings three times a week. removing masks to eat. a lot of concerns are growing, including from dick durbin who told you last hour it is time to move forward with testing of senators here in the capitol. >> absolutely. we need testing protocol. i have been testing to the attending physician for months about it. it is a major undertaking. there are many people currently working in the capitol building in scaled down staff situation, many who want to return can't because we don't have a system in place. we need to take the deadly virus seriously. this president is not in touch with reality. congress should be.

we need testing and every member should have regular testing as well. >> john, despite refusal of the leadership to embrace more testing, the senate republican leader, mitch mcconnell, plans to push off senate business until october 19. they were expected to reconvene today, instead they're pushing off action because of the three senators that have come down with coronavirus and he is still pushing ahead to get the supreme court nominee confirmed potentially by end of the month and that's raising concerns about whether the republicans will even have enough senators present to officially cast that vote. of course, the little margin for error, more than three senators is enough to scuttle the nomination. a lot of concerns about testing and members falling sick and concerns on the republican side about whether they can get the nominee through for election day. john? >> a lot of complications caused by the disruptive virus.

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collins who has the breaking news. >> reporter: john, shortly after we learned kayleigh mcenany tested positive for coronavirus but was not experiencing symptoms, we have now learned that two of her deputies in the press shop have also tested positive for coronavirus. so we are seeing the circle of people that tested positive in the west wing now expanding even further. my colleague, jim acosta just went by the area that reporters like us have access to in the white house. very few staffers are there, lights are off, and it goes to show you how prevalent it is inside the west wing. we should note it came 24 hours after staffers got an email yesterday telling them if they had symptoms or anything like that to stay home, and said if they develop symptoms, they should not contact the white house medical unit about testing, instead go to their primary care provider. that email came several days after the president had been admitted to the hospital. so it did raise questions for

staffers in the west wing about what to do if they start to get symptoms. that's a concern for pretty much everyone now given just how many of the president's staffers are now positive for coronavirus. >> kaitlan collins, we'll keep adding to the count. bring you back when we have more information. thank you very much. when we come back, important day for early voting and mail-in voting across the country. the president saying he wants poll watchers to track all of this. when we started carvana, they told us that selling cars 100% online wouldn't work. but we went to work. building an experience that lets you shop over 17,000 cars from home. creating a coast to coast network to deliver your car as soon as tomorrow. recruiting an army of customer advocates to make your experience incredible. and putting you in control of the whole thing with powerful technology. that's why we've become the nation's fastest growing retailer. because our customers love it. see for yourself, at carvana.com.

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this is a big week for early and mail-in voting. today, early in person voting begins in california, iowa, nebraska, south carolina, and some in montana. idaho, and rohode island are mailing out ballots. the virus causing a spike in early voting and voting by mail, a challenge for states that don't have a history of handling so many mail in ballots. it comes as the president who has been critical of the process is tweeting volunteer to be a trump election poll watcher. let's cuss it with ben ginsburg. ben, the president drawing attention to an issue you wrote about today in "the washington post." first the president's tweet. not only does he say volunteer to be an election poll watcher but ends with this army for trump. that's the reference they're using, army for trump. this concerns you. i want to know for shurs, you

are the republican party premier election attorney the last 20 years, and worried about the republican president. how trump's remark on poll watchers threatens another election norm. should trump seek to delegitimize the presidential election he would most likely begin by causing delays and chaos in precincts that voted heavily against him in 2016. the most obvious tactic, have the rnc instruct poll watchers to abandon the traditional role and launch mass challenges. an assault on the electoral system you call it there. some would say you're being alarmist, the president's tweets and constant talk tell me you're onto something. >> the president's comments have signaled that a number of questions should be asked of the rnc and trump campaign about how they're going to instruct poll watchers and observers in polling places.

the rnc is just coming off being in a consent decree since 1981, they don't want to get in position, it would be bad for the republican party to be in position of committing the activities, you've got the rnc placed under consent decree in the first place, but that's where the president's words could be taking this 50,000 person army. >> you say it would be bad for the republican party, but this republican party is controlled by the president, his people are in charge. do you have any reason to believe they would listen to your advice if the president said i want these people to go in? essentially the fear is they're not there to watch, they're there to intimidate. >> that would be the fear and maybe not intimidate but just challenge ballots so the whole process gets clogged down. and it might be only in precincts that were heavily democratic precincts and not in republican precincts. you can see how if that's carried out on a regular basis

it can really impact the way the election is run and how the ballots are counted. i believe there are people of great integrity within the republican party. i think they're at an odd moment and decision point where people running the election day operation program need to take a hard look at the president's words and what their plans are, to be sure their plans and actual actions comport with the norms for handling elections. >> well, the norms are that most elections are well run, well administered, both campaigns have every right to have attorneys and watchers on hand to watch. listen to one of them here. this is how he describes what's happening. >> the word is not mail in ballots, the word is fraud. they're enabling fraud for ballots for people that don't actually live there or vote there. you know, it's crazy. >> it's crazy that someone who

is paid by the president's campaign would say things that are not true about what's happening. >> i think if you're going to say things like that, you need to have some evidence of it. it is imperative that if people that work for the president and the president himself are going to make that allegation that the elections themselves are somehow fraudulent, you have to present the proof. what is true is that what poll watchers generally do is gather evidence that they see in polling places, get affidavits. the election mechanism in every state is the proper place to actually litigate those charges. to make wild charges without any evidence now is really irresponsible. >> it is, irresponsible is a good word. a week for it. we appreciate your thoughts and insights. we'll continue as we get closer to the election. one would think since so many states don't have experience in

wide scale mail-in voting, they would be surging resources. instead, the president calls it fraud. we'll stay on top of that. an important day for the president's hospitalization. thanks for joining us. preand p brianna keilar picks up this important news day right now. i am brianna keilar. i want to welcome viewers in theist and around the world. we begin with breaking news. the west wing is effectively shut down now. the coronavirus outbreak at the white house got worse. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany and two of her aides reveal that they have tested positive. we certainly wish them the best of recovery, but we should note that mcenany didn't quarantine despite known infections around her. didn't wear a mask briefing reporters 24 hours ago. we will discuss her case in a moment. first, for the third day, the president o