right now than getting inside. you see marine one now leaving the south lawn of the white house. but the president still there. trying to show that things are getting back to normal. i guess that's his message. that's what he's trying to show. but clearly the fact that he took off his mask is rather reckless, i will say that. i want to turn over our coverage right now to erin burnett. she's watching all of this unfold. erin? you see the president of the united states there look out from the white house. his mask is off. he has coronavirus. first thing he did after he got off marine one, which you just saw lifting off there, just like a reality show that this was, lifting off, the president there without a mask. he gets off, walks up those steps, goes between the flags, faces the cameras, and takes off his mask. again, the president is returning from walter reed after three days in the hospital he is

on multiple drugs to treat the coronavirus. he is not out of the woods. his own doctors say that. it was a white house photographer who came up right behind him masked, but right in the range, taking pictures of him. you see people there. the first thing the president of the united states did was take off his mask. this is a stunning moment. on top of an absolutely stunning series of events that i think has left everyone in this country just completely in shock. what we just saw there. as we watch this, and we're going to see in a moment when he got off the helicopter, it was on the other side of the cameras that you saw, so you'll be able to see that in a moment, he obviously, when he got on that helicopter it was a thumbs up as he left walter reed. continuing to downplay the virus. and you know, his tweets speak a thousand words, which they did today. but what he just did there was everything anyone in this country needs to know. a person hospitalized with coronavirus who feared for his life on friday because of the

virus, today ripping off his mask. sanjay gupta is with me as well as kaitlan collins who is at the white house. so kaitlan, tell me where you are, what you have just seen, and what those around you in the reporter corps are now saying. i know there was fear about asking questions because of whether he would breathe on them. tell me. >> it's remarkable, erin, to see this moment where the president is clearly staging it to look like a success as he is returning to the white house less than 24 -- 72 hours, excuse me, after being admitted to walter reed. but then that's why he clearly climbed those stairs. that's not normally where the president goes into the white house. he normally gets off and goes into the ground level when he goes into the residence. but clearly he wanted to make a dramatic entrance into the white house to show that he is back. but remember, the president was diagnosed with coronavirus less than four days ago. his doctor today would not say the last time he had a negative test, would not say what his lung scans showed, and would not answer a slew of other questions

citing a privacy act that prevents the doctor from revealing information if the president, in this case the patient, does not want that information revealed. so there are still a lot of unknowns about the president's health. but he is making this dramatic return to the white house, something that he had been agitating to do, we were told by sources, for about 24 hours now but did not do so yesterday. instead settled for that car ride outside of walter reed. but he's returning to a very different white house than the one he left, erin, on friday because his press secretary has tested positive for coronavirus and is now working remotely. his body man has tested positive for coronavirus and is now working remotely. his daughter, ivanka trump, has not tested positive, has tested negative, but out of an abundance of caution is also working from home and quarantining this week, as well as a slew of other officials who have tested positive of course. and so this is going to be a very different white house that he's entering and there are going to be questions about the level of people the president is exposed as he made that trip

back to the white house but also what the next few days will look like because we know they are setting up temporary office space for the president on that side of the white house, the residence side, which is where he just entered. and he's going to be on the ground floor, which is near where the medical offices are. but of course it raises the question if staffers come into the room are they dressed in full ppe with gowns and a mask and face shields? what does that look like? because it doesn't look like it but the president does still have very much coronavirus, as he just walked into the white house. >> right. he does. and of course, you know, somewhere in his course of the virus here. right? and we all know you can get sick and feel a lot better and get extremely sick again. his own doctors have said he's not out of the woods. but certainly he has the virus. so he can transmit it. and what he just did, what he just told americans it's okay to do when you have coronavirus, is to not wear a mask. that's what he just did. sanjay, i believe you're here as well, right? >> yeah. >> dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, i would like to say

nothing surprises me at this point. but that was awful. >> it was just reckless. and it's heartbreaking to think that someone who clearly now has a contagious deadly virus, that person happens to be the president of the united states, is showing such reckless behavior and disregard for the people that are around him. as everybody i'm sure who watches your show knows by now, you wear a mask to protect those around you. so he goes up there, he takes off his mask. i'm just watching everything. someone runs up there to take his picture, has a mask on. but again, the president, who we know has coronavirus, is not wearing a mask. i mean, he should be in isolation. he should not have left the hospital. the doctors said today, as you point out, he's not out of the woods, that we are in uncharted territory. that day 7 through 10 could potentially be the worst days for him.

there's nothing about this scenario that makes sense -- >> just so everyone knows, sanjay, this was a few moments ago. the other side othis is him get walks up those stairs. so sanjay, keep going. this is where he has the mask on, right? as he goes to the -- passes the press. doesn't take questions and is going to head up those stairs. >> right. so he heads up the stairs. and then when he gets up to the top of the stairs is when he takes the mask off. and you know, if he's going to go inside the residence, maybe that's where he's going to isolate. i don't know. but at that point kaitlan was raising this issue. at that point if anybody comes in contact with him they need to be in personal protective equipment. i mean, if he was in the hospital still, whenever the doctors went to go see him, they'd be in personal protective equipment. you're getting a very different picture here by seeing the president like this. doctors look at this and say what's going on inside of him, what's the illness all about? we know he has an infection with this coronavirus. we know that that infection,

that coronavirus can be very contagious, which is why people take great pains to protect themselves in the hospital. but this is -- >> here it's going to come. here we go. >> a very different -- >> takes it off. >> -- and incorrect message. >> and you see him here he takes it off and he's getting ready for his pictures. the flags flank him. right, kaitlan? this is what he did. this is the moment. this is what he produced it for. he wants the image to be i'm strong, this virus is nothing, his tweet today, feeling better than i did 20 years ago, don't be afraid of covid, don't let it dominate your life. there he is. this is the image he wants. >> yeah. and let us remind viewers now that the president is on steroids and a drug that fewer than 10 people outside of clinical trials have gotten inside the united states to deal with coronavirus. he had a level of treatment and a level of care that most americans would not get. that's understandable. he is the president of the united states. obviously, everyone expects

that. but what the president is portraying by taking his mask off when he gets back to the truman balcony to give this grand return to the white house is that everything is fine and as he said don't let coronavirus control your life. but that is very much still a president who has coronavirus. despite the lights and the flag and the staged entrance that the president wants to create he still has coronavirus. he's only a few days into the diagnosis. and erin, today his doctor didn't reveal a lot of information as he hasn't for the past two days, but he did still say that he won't breathe a sigh of relief until monday. that's a full week from today. >> a full week from today, sanjay, during which he's going to be in the white house. okay? and there are going to be people around him who are -- right? he's going to eat. he's going to -- that whole thing is he wants this image. and then, by the way, when you said where's he going from here, this is obviously still what happened a couple moments ago. he then goes back into the

residence, sanjay. and i couldn't see exactly where he went. but he has no mask. right? he's breathing, walking around. leaves. or doesn't leave. and there's a whole bunch of people standing there in the space that he just left. >> this is -- i mean, everybody should know by now, he is likely expelling virus into the air. outside you could argue a lot better than inside, although there were some people close to him even outside. but now inside. it's hard for me to tell from these images but it looks like there are several people around him. i just don't get it. you know, this is -- this breaks every protocol and there's no sort of equivocation here. people know that he has the virus. they know he could be spreading the virus to other people. that's a huge concern. and kaitlan raised the point about the medications again. the thing about it is you say well, he looks really good. and everyone should be glad that he looks good. but you know, people do worry with these types of medications, especially the steroids, that it's a false sense of security.

it makes -- it gives people this sort of burst of energy. it makes them feel better. but it may be just masking the problem for a period of time. the virus is still there. the virus may even replicate more easily because the steroid sort of suppressed the immune system. >> right. >> so this is a significant concern. again, the doctors at walter reed, they know this. i'm not telling them anything they don't know. every doctor knows this. but why this has transpired the way that it has is reckless at this point, erin. >> and again, to your point, right? it masks the underlying symptoms. it doesn't treat the actual virus. and as you point out in the study that was out in the new england journal of medicine, right? it has not been proven any benefit and perhaps the risk of negative impacts on someone who is not on oxygen, right? or intubated. so there is a risk, right? that what he perceives from thns the reali this is not the realities that it may be. let me bring in dr. jonathan reiner, add him to our

conversation, director of the cath lab at george washington university hospital. you advised the white house medical team under president george w. bush. talking to the public about dick cheney and his heart issues as we went through that. also with me dr. jeremy faust, emergency physician at brigham & women's hospital. he has been treating and is treating now coronavirus patients. and abby phillip, our political correspondent. so let me start with you, dr. reiner. what we're seeing here really looks like -- it's like something out of north korea. the dear leader comes out. right? with the magnificent helicopter entrance and up the stairs and off goes the mask as he pauses, you know, and preens for the shots. >> yeah. i was half expecting him to hold up a bible at the end of that shot. it's unexplainable that the president of the united states, who's actively shedding virus,

millions of particles, would walk into that building with the enormous number of staff unmasked, shedding virus in the air in that building. it's really hard to understand how no one told him not to do that. and i think this is the problem that i've seen over the last several days. there doesn't seem to be anyone in charge of his care other than the president of the united states, other than the patient. i'm wondering how much of his therapy was dictated by the patient, how much of his hospitalization, the need for hospitalization, and the time of discharge was dictated by the patient. no one's in charge there but him. >> and i want to just -- i'll add to that because i think it's just a fair objective point to make. no one needed to tell him to keep his mask on. he has coronavirus. he's shedding it. it's absurd to think that the excuse would be oh, i didn't know. that's false. dr. faust, i want to show -- we have another angle here because when he went up there and took

his mask off, obviously all cameras were on. so i want to show another angle that we have of how close he was to the white house photographer. we'll show it in just a moment. when he gets up to the top of the stairs and he takes off his mask and he's sitting there for the cameras, a white house photographer rushes up the other side of the stairs to get a close shot from another angle. so dr. faust, when we get to that point, because it's a moment away, i'm going to give you a chance to react to it. but when you hear "i'm feeling better than i did 20 years ago, don't be afraid of covid, i feel so fantastic," with a guy on dexamethasone, what do you hear? >> well, i hear a contradiction to what he said last night, which is he said that he finally after 200,000 deaths or more, that he gets it. but what strikes me today is he goes home either contagious today or contagious during the debate with vice president biden. it's difficult to construct a timeline in which he's contagious at neither -- at not one or the other.

so he's probably putting -- we know he's putting people at tremendous risk. from the viewpoint of coronavirus, which doesn't have any sentience, but think of, it started halfway around the world and today got a ride in marine one via its hoefrkts tst, the p of the united states. it's unbelievably weak but the coronavirus has really proven resilience and the president is now going to spread it possibly to other people including people in these images that we're seeing. the message that he said don't worry about it, don't let it control your life, this is a tremendous problem. when he was -- when he first was infected, we had two bad outcomes. either he had a bad outcome and yet another life was lost, or people looked at him and said oh, look, it's okay, this thing isn't so bad after all. there are no wins here. we are living a nightmare, and coronavirus is now in the white house. >> and sanjay, as he's -- you can even see here, he's adjusting his suit to get every picture. there's the shadow. there we go. okay. so sanjay, take a look at this.

that's the close-up shot. >> yeah, this photographer who's wearing the mask, which again i think most people on your program, watching your program know this. the photographer is protecting the president from him, from the photographer. but the president is the one who has the coronavirus. and he's symptomatic. and he has a -- we know he has the coronavirus. people should be wearing masks regardless because everyone has to behave like they have the disease. but he is a symptomatic carrier of a potentially deadly disease that is very contagious. so this is just reckless to put people in this sort of situation. and again, we see him walk in in a few minutes into the residence. there's other people around. i really don't get this at all. this is -- there is stuff that is just pretty reckless. but at some point it's becoming absurd. a person with known contagious deadly disease without a mask on is walking into the residence. other people are around him.

maybe they're wearing masks to protect him. but he already has the disease. that entire area will need to be disinfected, decontaminated. i don't know if that's where he's isolating. you know, i just -- as dr. reiner said, they still continue to minimize this disease. and the way they minimize it, there's all these strange ways and we're seeing another one of them. >> abby, this is -- i mean, you had the images, right? that he put out of walter reed. people taking pictures of him. in a room. where he's in the hospital with coronavirus. maskless. and now he's doing this. so it is a clear bet, abby, not just that he thinks he looks -- it's very clear he thinks he looks weak with a mask on. period. we know that. that's clear. but he's sending a message of this thing is not serious. and off the mask. and he knows it. >> you know what, erin, the

white house is acting as if the president has already recovered from this virus. and as dr. faust just explained, that is unlikely given where he is in the progression of this illness. so basically what we're looking at is the white house staging mission accomplished moment outside of the white house on the south portico with the president walking up the steps proving that he's just fine, that everything is great, that there's nothing to worry about. he's standing there in the doorway filming basically what we can only assume to be a campaign commercial because of the length of time he stood there seemingly walking in and out to repeat his steps in multiple takes like it's a television show. he is still sick. he just left the hospital and has not even completed his course of treatment. it's a sign of how in white house is approaching this as some coined kind of pr stunt? kind of effort to turn this

around from a political perspective. and we saw signs of this all day long as the president's allies and supporters tweeted these memes of him with -- as a wrestler body-slamming the coronavirus. they laugh about these things. but this is exactly the kind of image that they want to project. the problem is for all of the americans who are watching this, the president's supporters included, this is the wrong message. he is not changing his message about how people need to protect themselves, and we're going into a very perilous period of time for this country and the president is -- none of this, this entire experience does not seem to have changed his approach. >> no. not at all. and let me ask you, dr. faust, because you -- you're treating patients currently. so if someone, a regular person who doesn't have access to intravenous drug dosage at home, is where the president is, right? with the virus sick in a hospital for three days on remdesivir and the antibody

cocktail by regeneron which as kaitlan said fewer than continue people in this country have been on, and a steroid, would they be able to go home? >> no. no most cases they certainly would not be ready to go home. and in fact, as has really -- one of the only correct things that we heard from the press conference today is that we're still -- we're not out of the woods. when you look at all the trials where all the mortality began to occur, the first three days in the hospitalization there really is very little mortality. it starts to crop up after that period of time. seven, ten, 14 days. so no. we don't usually discharge patients to their homes. now, he gets? care at the white house that the average person cannot get. so i'll grant them some degree of leeway here because the president has resources. but when we look at the data, patients that we send home and who come back later ill, we can't really put the president in that calculation because he's going home sooner than most people would go home, sooner than most people would advise. he actually shouldn't be on

steroids at home. he should either be done with steroids or home. so you go home when you're ready to be off of steroids. so they're making an exception here. and again, it's probably safe for him because he can be scrambled to what he needs. but it's not safe to those around him. and honestly, the secret service signed up to protect him but not themselves from the president. that's an unusual kind of change in their risk calculation. and there's a pure dynamic there that i'm worried about. >> for sure. it's a recklessness in thought of others. and it also is sending a message loud and clear to those who believe in him that this is okay behavior and that it's fine. and that is deeply damaging. kaitlan, let me ask you, because the president tweeted tonight, "we'll be back on the campaign trail soon," with three exclamation points. i know you're learning more about his plans. >> yeah. and that comes after when his doctor was asked earlier when should the president be able to travel again they just said we'll have to see. he didn't give a firm answer or say the president shouldn't

travel until this day, this is when we determined it would be safe for the president to be back out on the road. and of course you've got to question the decision-making the president is going to have because we saw what happened on thursday where knowing that a top aide had tested positive the president still went to new jersey anyway and as his doctor admitted today wasn't tested for coronavirus until after he returned. that was the first time the doctor said he had the conversation with the president about whether or not he was developing symptoms, which of course raises an entire slew of questions. but the president is teasing he'll be back on the campaign trail. it's not clear when. though his campaign did say they think he's going to be able to attend the second debate, which would be at the end of next week, next thursday. and of course that would not be within that 14-day period of the president first being diagnosed with coronavirus. so that raises a whole slew of questions for the biden campaign about what they'll do. but erin, one more thing i do want to note about what the president just did as he took off his mask, put it in his pocket, did not appear to put it back on as he walked into the white house, we reported over the weekend that the military

personal valets who serve the president and the first family, several of them are quarantining over the weekend and now for the next few days because they came into contact with the president and the first lady. and they obviously, because of their jobs and the nature of those positions, they work incredibly closely with both of them and with barron trump and everyone else who comes into the residence. they don't have a choice. that is their job. so the president, who has coronavirus and is contagious, just walked back into the white house without putting his mask back on. and it just raises so many questions, as did this return to the white house, of whether or not he's putting those around him, those who dedicate their lives to serve the president, in danger by doing things like taking his mask off for political purposes because he wants to show a sign of strength to his supporters but doesn't really seem to have much consideration for the people who are serving him just inside that door that he just walked into. >> dr. reiner, this also raises the question of his testing. so you know, this question's been asked again and again and

again, right? ever since we found out i hhe h the coronavirus. right? of when was his last negative test. it's crucial because his team certified on the honor system that he was negative at the time of the debate. so it should be easy for them to answer the question if they were honest about that. can you think of any reason why they would not disclose his date of last negative test? >> yes. that he wasn't tested when they certified he was. i think that's the -- or he tested positive and he still continued his duties. there are no other answers for that. if the president tested negative on tuesday, why wouldn't they simply say the president tested negative the day of the debate? or even the day before the debate. you know, i think that would be very reasonable. but they won't say that. the other possibility, as i said, is that the president tested positive on wednesday or

earlier on thursday and still carried on some of his duties, which would be unforgivable, to expose people to the risk of his contagion. there's no other explanation, and the white house has to release that. we heard today from the president's physician, dr. conley, when asked that question directly he said "i don't want to look backwards." that's not an answer. it's important what dr. faust is saying. we need to understand when the president got sick. if he got sick earlier than we suspect, he actually might be over the hump and doing quite well now. but if he really got sick at the end of the week, there may very well be much more to come. the white house needs to release that data. >> they do. and i just want to -- to be clear here, even if he didn't know he was positive, when the white house knew that hope hicks was positive by any metric that anybody in this country should

follow according to the cdc, he should have stopped everything he was doing. he still went and met with donors. it was still reckless and wrong. but sanjay, in terms of the timing of this last negative test, which is so crucial, and we do need to know, what is the latest as you understand it? >> this is interesting. our medical unit dug up some reportinging today. the cleveland clinic overseeing the debate sort of medical protocols here, and i'm reading here, one of the things -- the way this worked for them is they said both campaigns had to submit the names of those who tested negative within 72 hours prior to the debate. okay? so the campaigns had to submit negative tests for everyone who was going to attend from tests that were at least 72 hours before the debate. so what that means is the debate was on tuesday. so they could have testing that dated back 72 hours to saturday. they just had to submit it. the president, vice president

biden both submitted saying they had tested negative at some point during that 72-hour period. but again, we don't know for certain when that was. it didn't necessarily have to be the day of. it could have 3 days. also it didn't have to be the gold standard pcr, polymerase chain reaction test. it could be an antigen test. any kind of test was allowed. 72-hour window. there was a lot of loopholes. >> for the obvious reasons just to be honest i think people didn't think these guys would have it because they're so protected. 72 hours would be a ridiculous window because you could have gotten it within that. and well he may have. you know -- >> erin, could i say something? >> yes, go ahead, dr. reiner. >> over the last several months the public has been told one of the reasons why the president doesn't wear a mask in the presence of other people is that he's tested every day. so he's known to be negative. so the white house should be

able to present his tests from all last week. they say he's been tested every single day. so it would not be -- could not be that his last test was saturday. unless they are -- they have not been forthright with the country. >> right. something is not true about how this has been laid out. sms is not true. t the question is what. dr. faust, i want to ask you another important thing. obviously he's now back at his home. on a lot of very powerful medications. remdesivir and a very powerful steroid in dexamethasone. and of course he has coronavirus and they have not released a lot of information. for example, about his lungs. and we've heard from many about the longer-term impacts of covid itself. right? so there's the drugs that he's on now and how that impacts a person, and then there's what comes next, presuming that indeed he does not have another course of the illness itself.

he's going to -- he is and wants to continue to be the commander in chief. is all of this relevant to his ability to actually execute that job? >> it very well could be. and here is where we as the public find ourselves in quite a bind. dexamethasone does have a record of causing? altered mental status. we call it changes in your behavior. it can cause psychosis, mania, word finding difficulties. you have your reading comprehension goes down. anywhere from the small numbers in the single digits to 50% of patients. but here's the thing. altered mental status, that word we use, is really about your baseline. so if you're a very shy person and suddenly you're very energetic and acting outlandish, that's altered. for the president, you know, typing in all caps, that's his baseline. so we have to look at his baseline. but his physicians, we have to rely on his physicians to say he's at his baseline, he's not behaving abnormally. and over the weekend what we kept seeing was a moving target. they'd say today everything is fine, yesterday things weren't so good. well, yesterday they told us

things were good and the day before things weren't so good. so they keep saying that everything's great today, everything was not great yesterday. and so we need to rely on their assessment. and so far their assessment has been much more about reassuring us than informing us. so we're in a tight spot because the people who are responsible for this decision have not been very reliable. >> so abby, kaitlan was talking a little about the president wanting to get back out on the campaign trail. what does that look like? i mean, you know, does he literally go back out there before he gets his negative tests? if he's like well, i'm not next to people and i don't wear a mask anyway as he just showed. >> it's such a great question. and it was a question that i felt actually was even more urgent based on the press conference given by the president's doctors today because dr. conley was asked about when they believe the president may no longer be shedding the virus. and he seemed to give a very convoluted answer, suggesting that you know, perhaps it could

be, you know, five days, it could be seven days, that they were doing extensive testing to find out what his viral load was. so they seem to be preparing for a scenario in which the president could say to the public, you know, i've been tested, they tested me to find out what my viral load is and i'm not shedding active virus. and it made me wonder, you know, is this the precursor for the president getting back on the campaign trail outside of the guidelines that have been set out by the cdc? and you know, i don't know what they want to do but he is clearly eager to get back out there. and they've already said they're going to be at that debate, which is in a week from now. so you know, erin, i wouldn't put anything past this situation. you know, this is a president who wants, you know, the rules tailored specifically to his desires and i think that he clearly seems to be surrounded by many people who are willing to make that happen. just the simple fact that he

walked back into the white house and then took off his mask is a sign that people around him are not saying mr. president, you're contagious, don't do these kinds of behaviors. >> it's amazing. no one around him. no one around him seems to be telling him that. and if they are the way which he is treating that information and that person is shocking. all right. all of you, thank you very much. the president now in the residence. supposedly in quarantine. "outfront" next, trump saying today on twitter, "don't be afraid of covid. don't let it dominate your life." well, one of his supporters, the man you see there, he died of coronavirus because he listened explicitly to trump on masks. we're going to talk to his daughter. she says her father trusted trump. and also tonight, trump reportedly telling one of his advisers not to disclose the results of their positive test. seriously. that is a cover-up. and it's deeply morally wrong. election...

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this country have cases increasing. the u.s. death toll tops 210,000 lives lost to the virus. the white house's own model is expecting that to nearly double over the next fewer than three months. kristen arquiza lost her father to coronavirus in june. she said he died because he trusted president trump. and i know kristen, you and i have spoken. you were telling your father take this seriously, wear a mask and he was saying the president says i don't need to, i'm going to listen to him. let me ask you your reaction when you see the president get off that helicopter, go up, and the first thing he does for the cameras after being in the hospital for three days and still having coronavirus, is take off his mask. >> thanks for having me again. i've got to be honest with you. at this point i think the president of the united states is the most dangerous person in the world. he is continuing to spread

misinformation about this virus not only through his words but through his actions. by taking off his mask and entering into the white house he is signaling to his people and to his supporters that it is the strong person's will to go forward with the virus as is and everybody will be fine. but that simply is putting people at risk for contracting this deadly disease, and it's appalling. >> he also said, as i mentioned, in that same tweet, "i feel better than i did 20 years ago." he of course is on an incredibly potent steroid at this time. you know, you just said it really beautifully, kristen, right? that the image he's projecting is that if you're just strong and tough that the virus is nothing. obviously, that is a false statement. you watched a strong and tough person in your life, your father, battle the virus for two weeks, go on a ventilator.

and he's not with you now. so when the president says "i feel better than i did 20 years ago," what do you say to him? >> the thing that we're seeing playing out, erin, is what i talked about also at the dnc, that there are two americas in this country -- donald trump's america and the america my dad died in. had my dad had the opportunity to have the type of care that abundance of caution, he may still be here with us today. but instead my dad and so many other people were told and are being told to go home and come back when you can't breathe. >> a completely different level of care. that is very clear obviously from what we've seen in terms of the treatment, the going home, the drugs as well. you right now i know are self-quarantining, right? because as you mentioned you spoke at the dnc. you were at the front row of the presidential debate on tuesday.

others who were there are not doing that. nine people tested positive at that rose garden event. right? where amy coney barrett was having her supreme court announcement. you can just look here at what we actually saw, where they sat. that's nine and counting. >> mm-hmm. >> vice president pence of course has been tested now every day since then. has still tested negative. what do you say to those who have been there who are not self-quarantining, those who were at the debate where you were who are not self-quarantining as you are? >> it is fundamental that we use simple things to keep each other safe. i've since been tested and i also have tested negative. but the idea that that can be a false negative keeps me in my quarantine until i am 14 days on the other side because i care

about human life and i couldn't imagine potentially putting somebody's life in jeopardy just so that i can go about my day to day. and it's a small sacrifice one has to make in order to uphold the sanctity of life. >> kristen, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. i appreciate you coming back on. so what the president just did by taking off his mask of course should -- well, it did surprise me. i'm going to be honest. it actually truly did. i sort of gasped for a moment. but in the context of how he's behaved, right? it is consistent. and it's also consistent with the cover-up. right? we don't -- they're not saying when he got the last negative test. the "wall street journal" is reporting that the president asked one of his own advisers not to disclose results of their own positive test. actually asked his adviser not to do so. the president himself reportedly saying, "don't tell anyone."

"outfront" now, olivia troye. she served as vice president pence's lead staffer on the coronavirus task force. she has now endorsed joe biden. so olivia, you've got the president doing what he just did with the mask. so let me just ask you because you've been in those rooms, you've been in the room with him and the vice president. was there anything about that that surprised you or is that what you actually expected him to do? >> i have to say that i was somehow, even after two years of having worked in this white house, i was still shocked. it was deplorable what he just did. as the leader of the free world showing, exhibiting that behavior, the rest of the world must just be -- i mean, this is just despicable. i can't even -- i guess i'm rarely at a loss for words, but

i could not believe that he did that. i mean, he is entering the people's house. he continues to use the house that we all unfortunately elected him to. right? this is who he's representing. and this is just -- it's embarrassing as an american. it's embarrassing as a national security professional to watch this firsthand play out. it's just horrifying. >> so when we hear the "wall street journal" reporting one of the president's advisers had a positive test, the president specifically said don't tell anyone. "the new york times" is reporting there were two people who worked in the residence of the white house who tested positive, they were told to use discretion in discussing their positive results. hope hicks obviously, we did not find out that she was positive from the white house. it was jennifer jacobs from bloomberg who found out and told the world, thus starting the domino effect which resulted in the president disclosing he had gone to a meeting with donors.

right? in a closed room knowing that. and his own positive -- his own positive test. is there any question that there's a cover-up? >> i don't have a single doubt in my mind that that article is not accurate or any of this is false. this is what it's like to work in the white house. they instill this culture of fear and they purposely go out of their way to manipulate whatever narrative there is. and they expect you to lie. i am not at all surprised the president would ask his assistant to do that. i honestly feel horrible for his aide. i know him. and i just can't imagine what it must be like to go home when you're sick and wrestle with that on a personal level morally and be like okay, i'm loyal to this person, i work for him, i continue to support him, but at

what cost? >> so i want to ask you because you've been there and you've seen this and now we see what's happening, which is you have respected medical doctors who they are confident he can get the care in the white house, that's one thing. but they can't physically restrain him from taking off the mask. right? but how is it that he's maskless in a picture at walter reed, that when he got on marine one to go there on the day he was so incredibly sick he's wearing a cloth mask, not even an n95, when others on the helicopter are, he's shedding virus, that he whips off his mask now. i mean, are people telling him in incredibly strident terms that he's wrong, or are they not telling him? >> he's been told several times that he needs to wear a mask. he has been told by the highest levels of the cabinet. he has been advised. it is very clear in no uncertain terms, you need to wear a mask. and in this situation i

guarantee you every single doctor -- >> told him. >> -- has said sir, you need to wear a mask. >> and he did what he did. and we've got some more reporting here that we're working on in just a moment about exactly what really just happened on that balcony. it's stunning. olivia, thank you very much. i appreciate your coming back on. thanks for your time. and next, a spokesperson for vice president mike pence mocking senator kamala harris after learning there will be a plexiglas divider between the two at their upcoming debate. s , to save you up to 60%. these are all great. and when you get a big deal... ♪ ...you feel like a big deal. ♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal.

okay. this is the breaking news i said we were going to tell you what happened on that balcony. okay? so we are getting in new video

and it is important. i want to show it to you. so this is president trump coming back out. so he took his mask off and he went in and there were people around him. he with no mask. they with masks. then he came back out. okay? he came back out. he came back out with no mask. they had masks on. he's still not wearing his mask. surrounded by people. and he did so because he wanted to reshoot the video of himself with the flags to make sure that he liked the shots. kaitlan collins is out front. kaitlan, so just explain to me what happened here. i sort of did it. but please do it again and lay out the timing as you understand it. >> the first video is remarkable. seeing the president come up those stairs and then take his mask off as he saluted marine one. but erin, we saw him go inside and not put that mask back on. and now we're learning a little bit more about what he's doing. you see as the president is going inside those doors and then he comes back out, still without a mask on, apparently to reshoot his entrance into the

white house because my colleague alan malloy looked at this closely and you can see an official photographer and a camera crew standing inside the white house shooting the president. and it's about four people within close proximity of the president who of course like we said is not wearing a mask despite just returning from the hospital after being diagnosed with coronavirus. and this is part of this staged entrance that the president is making where he wants to be back at the white house and be able to use this, apparently you can guess maybe in a campaign video or something of that nature to show his supporters his return. but let me repeat that. he is not wearing a mask as he is walking into the white house where other people are shooting this and redoing his entrance to make sure they can capture it in the way that the president wants them to. >> okay. kaitlan, thank you. so i want to go now to senator chris coons. he's been advising joe biden, long-time friend of joe biden. and i just want to be clear. senator, you were at the debate. you have been tested for

coronavirus. to, you know, see if you had it. you have tested negative. so i want to ask you now, now the story's changed a little bit. right? he goes up, takes his mask off. he goes in with people. he's unmasked. he then wants to reshoot it. so they all stay around him while he keeps his mask off to reshoot it so he likes how it looks. your reaction? >> erin, i can't believe that i'm still capable of being surprised at this is a reminder that we elected a reality tv star who does not take seriously the health and the risk he put others through. the cdc just renewed their guidance that covid-19 can be airborne particularly in door spaces. after tweeting out that he learned a lot about covid-19 in his brief stay at walter reed he demonstrated first he cares

about appearances than substance and he does not take seriously of the health and safety of folks at the white house. nearly 20 people infected in recent days. last, he shows he's not the leader that we need to bring us through this pandemic. just when he went to walter reed, 10,000 americans have been in fe infected and this coming week, 5,000 americans will die. president trump is not setting a good example of how to respond during this pandemic. >> he did just staged the whole thing of the helicopter arrival. he wanted to stage and do redos as if this is a reality tv, as if it is fiction, entertainment. i guess let's call it that. it is entertainment. those who are there, that's their jobs.

they were put in a position of health risk. >> it reminds me of how he chose to go out a ride around town to waver wave at his sporters. his example is misleading the americans. you just had someone who lost her father. president trump has led thousands of his supporters in large rallies unmasked and not socially distance and not following public health guidelines and he mocked joe biden on the debate on tuesday for wearing a mask for avoiding large public events. a part of why i am supporting for joe biden because he listens

to our health and he cares about our people. >> i am putting aside the fact that the president didn't disclose the information. 72 hours is too many hours. we learned a whole lot of things. now i was talking this weekend, the obvious thing is put a complexi plexiglass up. what's your response to that, the vice president's own team is still mocking basic safety. >> not everybody learned the

lesson of the debate this past week that you and i learn. we need to be vigilant and determined to keep people safe. even the president of the united states surrounded by world class healthcare and being tested everyday can get covid-19, that means we need to be more vigilant. for the vice president to mock my colleague, kamala harris for this, for lindsey graham, without a clear path towards doing so safely, it is just a reminder of the ways and which this pandemic, our republican leadership and the president and vice president has not been committed. >> senator, thank you very much, i appreciate your time and the president's doctors dodging questions about the president's health, not answering important questions. why? frustrated that clothes come out of the dryer wrinkled? next time try bounce wrinkle guard dryer sheets. the world's first mega sheet with 3x more wrinkle relaxers. look at the difference of these two shirts... the wrinkle guard shirt has less wrinkles and static,

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oxygen? >> he's not on oxygen right now. >> reporter: from the start of the battle, sedr. sean conley h been giving vague treatments. turns out the president had gotten extra oxygen. his explanation? >> the president and his course of illness has had, didn't want to give any information that may stir the course of illness in another direction. >> reporter: conley went to notch dam anot notre dame and studied in the

navy. >> he has a lot of energy, a lot of energy and a lot of stamina. >> reporter: conley told lies about his health. a claim widely suspicious considering the extremely unusual nature of the unplanned visit. trump says he consulted his doctor and began taking hydroxychloroqui hydroxychloroquine, despite saying the drug could be dangerous. >> reporter: now conley appears to be just what the president ordered. >> the president has phenomenal patience during his stay here. when ever asked a question where his medical expertise could collide with the president's opinion, every time, erin, the

doctor dodges. >> well, tom foreman, thank you very much. thank you all of you for joining us. breaking news coverage with anderson. >> reporter: the president of the united states returns to the white house a little more than an hour ago. three days since he was taken to the hospital and four days since he learned of his illness. we don't know how serious his condition was or is. he was in fefected with covid-1. he then turned around and without his mask walked inside, back into a white house that's now seen more covid infections than the last couple of days than the entire country of new zealand had. the president was trying to project strengths but he proves disregard of anyone