kaitlan, the white house press secretary says logistically pulling off a rally tomorrow could be tough, even though the president's doctor has cleared it. do you even think this will happen? >> reporter: it doesn't seem he'll be on the radio this weekend, per se. he's urges aides to start scheduling events, but it may be closer to monday before we see the president on the road. he may do something here in washington this weekend. to you clear. 'ready to be back in we have not heard from the doctor since

monday, so reporters have not been able to ask questions of the doctor. also comes as the president is even conceding things were not as rosy as he initially portrayed them, which is just a week ago that he was taken to the hospital. he told rush limbaugh he's done with it, talking about how he was before he took this aggressive treatment. he was talking about the dough-morbidities as well. he was talking -- no medical professionals have said this is the reason the president is back at the white house and not still in the hospital. we don't know exactly what it is, because we haven't heard from those doctors. of course, brianna, this is like the third time in this pandemic that this president has touted an unproven treatment,

describing it as a cure. he did the same thing with hydroxychloroquine, this is something that the president tonight, but there's still a lot of unknowns about this antibody cocktail. that's why it doesn't even have emergency use thauthorization, d was given to the president on something called compassionate use. >> and i want to talk about the stimulus talks, the at the present time blew you have the talks earlier this week. he signed off on a counteroffer to present to speaker pelosi. this is during this interview, the president said he want to go higher, so it's not clear what

that means. of course, we know senate republicans do not want to go on a massive bill. and now he's saying he wants more in a bigger bill. so it's the president has the wild car, and the two sides are far away from the specifics. >> kaitlan, thank you so much. i want to bring in dr. chris pernell. she also lost her father to the virus.

as you continue to talk about the risks of this do you agree, and at this point in time considering it is not approval, it's certainly not widely available, does that matter right now? we can't rely on the president to give us public health guidance or recommendations, because over and over he's proven to be a threat to public health. that's not a political interpretation. that is a professional and medical interpretation. it is thoroughly important we have both preventive tools and therapeutics. that's what we're currently talking about because of the this experimental monoclonal antibody cocktail the president received, but we can't lose sight of the fact we need a vaccine. the fact that the president is shifts what is a priority is

because he doesn't understand the public health implications or science. we need to rely on though in public health with expertise with insights to deliver. >> the health and human department says they're expected antibody doses by the end of the year. does that seems realistic? >> i want to know the science, the results of the clinical trials, let the public health community have and to that information then we can think about moving beyond that i don't think we should prognosticate before the full science has been declared, and the public health community has seen it. >> the president's doctor has said he's cleared to return to

the trail tomorrow. i want to ask you this. what's become very clear is the president seems to be the one very much calling the shots when it comes to his treat. of course you have not treated the president, but i wonder what you think of that recommendations when you this i about where he is, when you think about the indicator about how severe his coronavirus infection has been for him, when you think about his age and risk factors, do you think he should be going out on the campaign trail? >> this is an emphatic trail. we have led to believe, because there hasn't been transparency around the president's condition, but we're led to believe by the cocktail of medications he received that the president likely had a severe case of coronavirus. if the president had a severe case of coronavirus, it is not recommended that those patients come out of isolation before 20 days, not even just ten days. according to what we know, the president started to display symptoms last friday, do the

simple math, that's just not realistically possible. i don't know what advice the president is being given, but that's not what we consider standard in the public health community. >> the president's team has consistently refused to answer when he had his last negative test. they're not saying when he had his negative test. i want you to listen to this exchange between hallie jackson and the deputy white house press secretary. >> when was the president's last negative test? >> we don't have that. >> you don't know? or you don't want to say? >> so we don't have that -- i don't personally know. >> what does that mean? have you asked? i think wednesday you said you would look into that. >> hallie, the president doesn't check all of his hipaa rights at the door when he becomes president. >> so it's a privacy thing, the reason why you're not saying the last negative test?

hipaa? >> that is one reason. >> why not be transparent about that very specific piece of information. >> so, hallie, i stated we'll have further updates from the doctors. we've had updates every single day. we've had numerous updates per day. >> nobody's answered this question, have they? >> i'm not sure why you're focused on that question. >> because it's information -- >> it doesn't add public health value. >> did the president comply with the cleveland clinic requirements to be tested 48 hours -- >> you're going backwards. >> did the president comply with that, yes or no? >> hallie, we are looking at how the president can get out there without transmitting the virus. >> can you explain why it is so important to have that information about his last negative test? >> brianna, we need to piece together what i call this public health puzzle. we need to know when the

president was last negative and when the president first started to display symptoms. we don't know either of those things with any left of certainly. we didn't le don't know when he last had a negative test, which would be helpful, and it would also be helpful to know, because a person can be infectious up to 48 hours before they test positive. this beginning to say, was the president out and about in public? was the president exposed to others in the white house or his administration when he was already infectious? we can't say any of that with any level of uncertainty. furthermore, we can't say with any level of certainty whether or not the president is safe and recovered enough to be back out rallying, back out even in washington, d.c. i repeat, it's recommended for those who have mild disease to at least be isolated for at least ten dates. we think the president has severe disease.

why? because of the medications he received. if he has severe disease, he should be isolated for 20 days. president trump is a threat to public health. he undermines public health institutions, and he undermines public health guidance. that is dangerous in a pandemic. we must do whatever we can to restore the public's trust in those public health guidelines. >> dr. chris pernell, it's wonderful to see you. thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you. the president's ace tax on the governor of michigan, hours after a threat to kidnap her were thwarted. hurricanes delta has strong winds and we'll have a live report from the coastal areas in the direct path. and when you get a big deal... ...you feel like a big deal. ♪

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right now we are keeping an eye on the gulf coast as parts of louisiana are bracing for yet another powerful storm sitting offshore. this is hurricane delta, set to make landfall later tonight with wind gusts potentially as high as 100 miles per hour. this is headed for some areas already hit hard by hurricane laura just weeks ago. our ryan young is in lake arthur, louisiana. this is a state still reeling from laura, and now they have hurricane delta to contend with. how are they getting ready for this? >> reporter: absolutely. you can hear the wind intensifies in this area behind me. some of the houses have started to board up.

yesterday as we were driving in, we saw hours and hours in terms of waiting, people i trying to get up the interstate. the evacuation order was ordered. some people said they've made it through the last three storms, they plan to sit out and wait. public health officials said once the storm starts they won't be out trying to save folks. especially -- they are upset, because obviously they have lost business because of covid, and now the storm is back to back to back. where we're standing will be some of the heaviest winds and rains over the next 72 hours. when you step out further, you get some of the gusts.

when you think about the storm coming in the next few hours, you're talking about wind gusts above 100 miles an hour. that's what so many are worried about in the area. the homes have been battered by the winds, so it's something we'll be watching over the next few hours. he goes on about black voters in america. and house speaker nancy pelosi introduces a bill that would give congress some power in determining whether the president can be removed from office. here how president trump is responding.

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them. stand back and stand by. hate groups heard the president's words not as a rebuke, but as a rallying cry, as a call to action when our leaders speak, their words matter. >> trump's response -- attack. he tweeted governor whitmer has done a terrible job. she locked down her state for everyone except her husband's boating activities. whitmer hit back this morning on abc. >> a decent human being would pick up the phone and say, are you okay? how is your family doing? that's what a decent human being does. that's what joe biden does. i think that tells you everything you need to know about the two characters who are vying to lead our country the next four years. >> 13 men have been arrested. they now face charges, including these six right here who face

federal charges. it's a scheme that authorities say was to overthrow state governments that the suspects believe are violating the u.s. constitution. the host of cnn tonight don lemon is joining us now. you look at this, they're all white men, this was domestic. we do that white supremacy and domestic terrorism is the greatest threat to the country right now, according to the director of the fbi. and the president is making law and order a centerpiece of his election appeal. when the suspects are muslim or black, this administration treats them differently. this president takes to twitter, and he takes to the podium and demonizes people who are muslim and black. he tries to paint all muslim people as terrorists. he tries to blame all the black

people protesting as violent protesters and rioters. we know that's not the same thing. he seems to, when it is a black person or muslim person he wants to dimonize, but when it's a white person, there are very fine people on both sides. or in this instance he doesn't talk about them. he deflects and talks about antif/ant antifa or other groups. very high at the top, and he barely even talks about them. >> i can't imagine any other administration, republican or democrat, handling it like this. i do want to ask you about something that happened moments ago. the president was talking about race with rush limbaugh, and this is what he said about black lives matter. >> okay. >> the first time i ever heard of black lives matter, i said

that's such a terrible term, because it's such a racist term. it's a term that sows division between blacks, whites and everybody else. for blacks, but they were very angry. it's a marxist organization. >> a very angry term for blacks. i'm glad he is black-splaining for black people. the president is obviously delusional. we have known that for decades, even before he became president. he is playing a president on television now. he is pretending, as he pretended in "the apreprentiapp" this president doesn't understand america, let alone black america. he is desperate right now, throwing things against the

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>> the climate is changing. the issue is, what is the cause, and what do we do about it? president trump has made it clear we're going to continue to listen to the science. >> it's not clear. it's not clear at all, and it's not true. for instance, climate change, which exists and is a problem according to science. >> so obama is talking about all of this with the global warming and -- a lot of it is a hoax. it's a money-making industry, okay? a lot of it. >> more evidence, according to an extensive database of attacks on science compiled by the nonprofit union of concerned scientists, the trump administration that is reversed or revoked nearly 70 obama-era initiatives. they have stott studying on farm pollution, how truck pollution affects kids and how some toxic chemicals affect american workers who use them. the president pulled the u.s.

out of the paris climate agreement to combat global warming. he's eviscerated the endangered species act. you likely remember when he rebuffed his government meteorologist by drawing on their map with a sharp wreck to extend a hurricane forecast zone into alabama, because he said it would be effective. card to axios, he once inquired about dropping nuclear weapons on hurricanes, and on the topic of water-saves showers and toilets -- >> people are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times, as opposed to once. they end up using more water, so epa is working at that strongly, at my suggestion. >> if his quixotic approach

is -- >> okay, let's rip it down, build a new one. we're not going to have windows anymore. environmental. so, you know, they loved wind, too, the big wind mills. i always say, the greatest graveyard in the world for birds, just walk under a windmill. i will see more dead birds than you will ever imagine, including eagles. you know, in california they put you in jail if you shoot a bald eagle, right? you go to jail, right? these wind mills are knocking them out of the sky all day long. it's unbelievable. yet they want wind. it's very hard to store the electricity from wind, so if you go home and you want to watch television because president trump is on and you want to watch one of his very brilliant state of the union addresses, if the wind isn't blowing, the husband look at the wife and says, darling, you can't watch

tonight, the wind is not blowing. >> that claim aside, according to the fish and wildlife service, cats remain the biggest threat. willed mills are farther down the list behind coal, oil and power line. who could see this one? >> is there a way we can disinfect it, like that? by injection inside or almost a cleaninging? >> he's promoted unproven drugs, trump political appointees, non-scientists, edited or slow-rolled reports, they altered guidelines. they pushed the cdc to make the school reopening guidelines less scientist to fit the false rhetoric on why it's safe for kids to all go back to school,

and whis rush on a vaccine is clearly because of the politics and not science. mind you, this list we have gone through is far from exhaustive. when it comes to trump's represent table scientific advisers, he dismisses and undermines them. >> dr. redfield confirmed it looked like it was november, decent the first doses could be able to be distributed, bud tt n the general vaccine may not be available until next summer, early fall. >> i think he made a mistake. it's just incorrect information. dr. fauci is a bit of an alarmist. >> a bit of an alarmist? >> he said, this will pass. he was wrong. >> sometimes trump lines to play scientist on television, pretending he's better qualified to opine. here's what he said back in

march. >> every one of these doctors said, how do you know so much? maybe i have a natural ability. >> he also played scientist on the ground in california in the midst of record-setting wildfires. >> it will start getting cooler. >> i wish -- >> you just watch. >> i wish science agreed with you. >> well, i don't think science knows, actually. >> well, science knows all right. that's literally the whole point of science. next, notre dame's president under fire for not wearing a mask at the white house. he's not tested positive. i'll speak to a student who started a petition calling for him to resign. but if you get home and your "ooh" is more of a "hmm..." you have 100 days to change your mind. that's the visionworks difference. visionworks. see the difference.

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some notre dame students are demanding the president of the school resign. father john jenkins tested positive for the coronavirus after appearing at the likely super-spreader event at the white house for the supreme court nominee amy coney barrett. at least a dozens of the attendees tested positive after this ceremony and other events indoors. father jenkins was seen there without a mask. there was no social distancing. he has apologized for his behavior. he says he regrets his error of judgment in not wearing a mask. he called his positive diagnosis a good reminder for me and perhaps for all about how

vigilant we need to be. ashton weber is one of the students who drafted the petition. you wrote in the school newspaper "the observer" said his diagnosis strengthened your belief that he should resign. rye did it strengthen your belief? is. >> i think it strengthens my belief he needs to resign. even in his apology he wrote, you know, you just mentioned that he wrote this serves as a call to all of us to be vigilant. the truth is students have been very vigilant. we saw a massive spike, but following the spike i've seen so many people following the rules and precautions that you're university has set in place and jenkins himself has asked you us to follow. so for him to go to the white house and completely disregard those guidelines, i don't think

it's fair for him to continue to serve. >> part of the case you make is this isn't the first time he's ignored prevention measures. tell us about that. >> yeah. that's correct. before you even came to campus, i think it was august 6th, jenksen was pictured posing with over 20 students in a large cluster. they were wearing masks, but still before we had even arrived on campus. he had sent us an e-mail earlier that week, so no not even be on campus and see him bending the rules, was scary for us students. >> so you have these restrictions, you have these recommendations, there is a ban on unnecessary travel. you guys are being advised against it, yet he went to washington. on the flip side of this,

proponents attending this event would say this is a huge deal for a catholic university to be a part of what is likely going to be another catholic supreme court justice. what do you say to that? >> yeah. i think i wrote this in the op-ed as well, but i understand that maybe he felt the need to attend that event. i don't know that i can speak to whether or not it qualifies as necessary or unnecessary travel. i'm not entirely sure what guidelines the university set to quantify necessary versus unnecessary. either way, he has asked us, the student body to participate in every event and participate with the utmost precaution, so to see him attending an event, whether or not it was necessary, he wasn't taking the most precautions possible, so he's not following his own rules. he also wasn't being as safe as possible, so it's disappointing to see him there, and to be just not wearing a mask, walking

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president trump's increasingly erratic behavior is raising questions about his judgment as he battles covid-19 from the white house. now house speaker nancy pelosi is putting her weight behind legislation to create a commission of medical professionals that could judge whether a president is fit for

office. here's what she had to say about the timing of this announcement. >> this is not about president trump. he will face the judgment of the voters. but he shows a need for us to create to pave the way for future presidents. fareed zakaria is the host of "how the people see america." what do you think about the premise of it? >> i'm of mixed mind, brianna, because on the one hand it feels overly partisan and it feels like part of this battle royale that goes on between trump and pelosi. but she does highlight something which is true of president trump, which is we don't have a

very good system to figure out what happens if the president gets ill, what happens if the president is incapacitated, what happens if the president is even more ill than that. we have a process if, god forbid, the president were to die. but short of that there isn't a good process, and maybe there needs to be a slightly more institutionalized process, but i do think it's going to be read, unfortunately, as an entirely partisan issue. >> you do have this special coming up that is looking at the u.s. from a global perspective, which is so important right now. i want to just take a look with a preview. ♪ >> the queen was holding a reception for nato leaders at buckingham palace. the mood grew edgy as everyone waited.

donald trump was late. one group of leaders was enjoying itself, canada's justin trudeau, bore is johnson, emmanuel macron, and the dutch minister. they were caught in a hot moment, making fun of the american president. >> they were essentially laughing at the u.s. president there. that's remarkable. >> the president of the united states, the most powerful country in the world, being mocked by some of its own staunchest allies. >> fareed, it's this moment where it sort of pulls back the curtain on what they're really thinking or their attitude toward the president.

what more should we expect from this special? >> well, you know, that is a symbolic moment, but it's a symbolic moment of great significance, because one of the characteristics of donald trump's foreign policy has been that he has taken a particular ire, he has taken particular umbrage at america's closest allies. it is one thing for an american president who dislikes the world, dislikes america's engagement with it, thinks we should be -- have more of an isolationist mindset than maybe trump does. but he has taken out his wrath mostly at america's traditional allies, the countries that have fought and died in american-led wars for 70 years. the countries he likes are putin's russia, saudi arabia, turkey's erdogan. it's the strong men. he admits to having fallen in love with kim jong-un, probably

one of the most repulsive dictators on the market. trump's world view is very unlike that of any american president for the last 70 years, and i thought it was very important for us to highlight what a great shift in american diplomacy this has been and how it had affected america's image and its relations with the world. >> his world view is so different, and so the world's view of him in america is so different. and i wonder, you know, knowing that, what would a second term -- if he is reelected, what would a second trump term mean for those key relationships between the u.s. and its traditional allies, and as well its enemies? >> i think with the allies, we can say for sure. it would be the beginning of the end of the great american alliance system that has been built over the last 70 years, starting with franklin roosevelt

and dwight eisenhower, because trump doesn't really believe in it. he says this openly, i'm not speculating. trump has wondered whether we should quit nato. he's wondering why we're protecting south korea. he views his relations with allies as some kind of transaction, almost like, you know, a real estate landlord with his tenant. all he's trying to figure out is, are you paying me enough rent? it's a very limited view that doesn't see the broader view to peace and stability in the world, which is the broader america. i think in those terms it's a very consequential election, because those allies will go their own way if it's a second trump term, i think. >> fareed, thank you very much. we're really looking forward to

this special you have coming up on sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. our continued coverage continues now with jake tapper. and welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin today with the politics lead, president trump this afternoon spending nearly two hours -- two hours -- continuing his streak of calling into what we will charitably refer to as friendly media outlets. the president hasn't been seen in person since he returned to the white house monday from walter reed medical center. the president claimed to not be taking any medications. he says he feels, quote, perfect after being infected with coronavirus. though the president did admit he continues to battle a cough. president trump also said he might not have recovered at all from the virus if not for the experimental antibody therapy that he received, one that only nine other people outside clinical trials in the u.s. have been able to get. the president is now touting this treatment