good evening, the president is doing it again. he's campaigning in pennsylvania tonight. he's letting us know he and his vice president are going to spend the next three weeks breaking every rule and guidelines about what to do during a pandemic. and in breaking the rules and guideline, day in and day out as thousands of americans die, to do that, they're taking advantage of what's best enough. the capacity to adapt to new circumstances. this is not churchill tapping into it. this is the president who likes to compare him stofl churchill, conditioning americans to accept a daily assault by him and the president on public health by hosting super spreader events if places right now that are seeing surges at coronavirus cases, if you look at the photos, the

people are not wearing masks, except those people standing behind the president because they are on camera. the positivity rate is between 8% or 9%. in short, it's a bad place for a large concentrated gathering of non-masked people. 9% of whom on average of the people in that room are infected with the deadly virus or for this president, the new normal that he would like for us to accept. the president goes to iowa tomorrow where the percentage of test coming back positive in the 15% range for days. on saturday he'll be at wisconsin where the positive rate is at 20%. wisconsin reports more than 3200 new cases in worst day of the pandemic yet. yes, this is where the president will be holding a gathering over the weekend.

the alleged leader of the coronavirus task force today. >> could we just take a moment? can we give a round of applause to the doctors and nurses and first responders and all struggling with loss in the midst of this pandemic. you are heroes, all. [ applause ] >> i promise all of you we are going to keep making sure our doctors and nurses have all the resources they need and we'll keep protecting the vulnerable and saving lives. while joe biden is talking about shutting down our economy. under president trump, we are opening up america again. >> do you think he practices that in front of a mirror? it does not come naturally. and i got say, applauding

doctors and nurses while simultaneously doing the opposite of what doctors and nurses recommend by the cdc guidelines. that takes something. the vice president by the way only put on a mask deplaning air force two. and the staffers and one secret service members. and that is a president who likes to aw shucks call the government against the coronavirus. the president continues taking shots with someone who's taking it seriously and does know what they are talking about, dr. anthony fauci. from the president's tweet. tony's pitching arm is far more accurate than his prognostications. we saved 2 million lives. first, the 2 million lives is

what would have happened if he did nothing. and that is not really a great measure of success. is that a yardstick we are using? he did nothing? what is his message to the families of 215,000 americans who have died? it is what it is. sorry your family members is dead? at least it wasn't 2 million? the real death toll is climbing. the university of washington institute and health mettics, covid will kill more than 321,000 american lives by the end of this year. that same model projects 45,000 fewer deaths if mask wearing would go up to 95%. if 95% of the people in the country would wear a mask. if that man and all the people in that gathering would wear a mask and will do it everyday. 95% of us would do it. we can save more than 40,000 lives. why not do that?

you can save 40,000 lives. why is that not a national priority? why is that something we should believe to do? why isn't that man who had the benefit of live life saving medication that most people don't get, why would that man use this opportunity to send that message? in the next time, however long he's in office, he can save tens of thousands of lives by putting on a mask and encouraging all those folks who listen to him closely. that is how the president can save lives. that's how he can save lives by normalizing mask wearing. not mass gathering in the middle of the pandemic. by inspiring people making shared sacrifices and not parading before them in an ego trip. as david gergen says last night

from one insanity to the next. kaitlan collins. obviously he wants to rally his bases as much as possible. it seems like a lot of this is about his ego, making him feel better in front of crowds. he's putting his supporters at risk and he's continuing this recklessness. >> that is certainly part of it, anderson. the president wants to project strength. the problem with running this campaign as he has the last several months that he's the strong energetic candidate and his opponent joe biden is weak. foo feeble to take office. the president is the one who's taken by helicopter to the hospital just a few days ago. that obviously messed with that message and stepped on it. that's what we heard from sources. the president was worried about when he was in the hospital and that's why he wanted to leave so quickly and earlier than his advisers recommended. that's why you see him holding all these rallies.

trying to make up for lost time. a lot have not changed when it comes to mask wearing and social distancing. i was looking at other camera in this venue, a lot of people are not wearing masks and they're not social distancing. but instead he's using it through the lens of how he does other things like himself to project his own stamina and his own strength which is a major topic he's used the last two nights. >> they are still covering up when his last negative test was before he started showing symptoms of covid, before he tested positive. they're still refusing just to answer a basic question that they must have records of and the fact that they continue to

cover up, it is hard to have it any other conclusion other than the president had been lying and was not tested with vice president biden and they want to cover up the recklessness. what's the logic of being able to release the president's negative test but they can't release when a negative test results two weeks ago. the logic of wanting to protect the president's medical history as some officials cited does not make sense when you are picking and choosing which negative test results you are releasing. that's why people have raised so many questions about it. they're happy to release the news that is good news about the president's health, but they won't release the full news and the complete picture. >> maybe that's being audited by the irs as well. our next guest knows better than most watching coronavirus cases rise. governor cuomo, we are glad that

the governor can join us, he just written a book "american crisis." thanks so much for being with us. as you are looking at this picture and few people wearing masks. no social distancing other than the people behind him. you have borders with pennsylvania. this could impact new york. when you see these images, what dow think as somebody who's in a leadership position? >> anderson, you think this is incredible. i am in disbelief, i can't believe this is the president of the united states. the only problem is, this is a reoccurring nightmare. we have seen this the past seven months. your previous commentary. yes, the president does not tell the truth, point a. point b, he does not tell the truth about covid. point c, he's been in denial from day one, he's been reckless with his own behavior and with the behavior of the country and

he made this covid pandemic worse. so yes, it is outrageous, we have seen outrageous since this began. really we have seen this for four years, right? >> i guess i am just stupid or naive, i don't understand how knowing you can save 40,000 american lives in the next five months by most of us wearing masks, that's something a leader can rally us to do. look, you have been pushing masks from the get-go, i don't understand why this is not a national priority. i don't know. i am naive, i guess. it is sad to me. >> no, no, anderson, you are right. the disconnect is you are logical and you are responsible. you are talking about a person in the administration that's not

logical and not responsible. new york was the first state to do a mandatory mask law and a president was on the other side. one of the main problems i had one of the main problems i had all through this is i am putting forth best practices and good health advice and the president has been arguing against everything every step of the way. and this nation is so polarized that this back and forth with the president and frankly his irresponsibility on the issue, majority of his base believed it and followed it. that has actually aided and abetted this virus. what's tricky with this virus is it takes one. it just takes one person in a crowd or one person in a bar to infect dozens. when you have the president spreading this message of

irresponsibility and the impact of one or two people actually listening to him, you have this reoccurring viral transmission which is where we are now. >> let's talk about new york. how confident are you of where new york is right now and moving into the fall and winter which we have all been warned about and scared about? >> yeah, look, you can't be confident in the situation, right? you have the president of the united states running the exact wrong message. i had covid, i am fine. everybody can get covid, everybody will be fine. sure, everybody gets on a helicopter and goes to walter reed. has millions of dollars in doctors and experimental treatment. 200,000 people did not have that service and they're dead. he's running around the country with irresponsible behavior. you will see the viral transmission tick up.

in the fall, people go inside, school, et cetera. i feel that we are doing everything we can in new york and we are as prepared as you can be. we have one of the most lowest infection rates in the united states right now. actually one of the lowest infection rates on the globe. we are highly sophisticated in spotting of flare ups or mini clusters. our immune system is highly attuned in new york. the new normal is you are going to constantly have these flare ups. the trick is going to be, do you have the ability to sense that flare up and get there quickly. is your immune system if you will in the body politics, sophisticated enough where you can detect it and etcetera and then you can deploy resources there before it starts the

flame. >> how do you do that? positivity across the state, 1 4671 4%. positivity rate in the red zone area of 3.7 to 4.13%. how do you go to those clusters. what do you do there? >> yeah. now, this is interesting because what we call a red zone is about 4% or 5% infection rate, right? that's lower than many states infection rate but relative to new york, we consider it a flare-up. how do we find it? hospitalization data, testing data and we do more testing than any states in the united states. we get the grandular data, we can get it down to the block

level now anderson. i can look at your block and find out who was sick. when we see a small mini cluster, we call them micro cluster. we send in the testing resources and we do a targeted restriction closed down for that area. that's the new normal going forward. the analogy to the human body works. the human body gets attack by the viruses dozens every week, the immune system can respond. can a state's immune system responds quickly enough to those flare ups? that's the challenge. in new york, we are very serious with data and we are serious with testing contact tracing and etcetera, we deploy quickly. if you don't snuff it out, you don't camp it out, it would be a flame. >> your book about leadership and during this crisis.

you have got criticisms of people dying at nursing home. given what we now know, is that something you wish you could go back and do it over again? >> that was seized on political opponents. they're doing it with all the democratic states or democratic governors. it was totally nonconsequential. people at nursing homes die. this virus preyed on the sick, and the nursing homes were the feeding ground. when we first met the virus in washington, it was a nursing home. you look at any states, many people in nursing homes passed away because they are the most vulnerable population. here in new york we are number

46 out of 50 states in terms of nursing home deaths. we had it worst by anyone. we were ambushed by this virus because the government keeps on calling it the chinese virus, meanwhile it came from europe. we are number 46 out of 50 in terms of percentage of deaths. we have tracked what happened in nursing homes and infections went from the working staff when it is community spread back before anyone realized anything. when the federal government was telling us there was no such thing as asymptomatic spread. now you had to have symptoms to spread it. that was wrong also. nursing home staff brought it in and that was the result.

>> we are going to take a quick break. i want to talk about the book and the lessons you learn during this crisis and the politics on donald trump who new yorkers knew for years before he came down that escalator. later, we'll have more, day one questioning for the supreme court's pick, and the grilling she got from amy klobachar. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ "hmm's and ahh's" heard in-call. ♪ "hmm's and ahh's" did yocould be signs that syour digestive systemwn

isn't working at its best? taking metamucil every day can help. metamucil supports your daily digestive health using a special plant-based fiber called psyllium. psyllium works by forming a gel in your digestive system to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down. metamucil's gelling action also helps to lower cholesterol and slows sugar absorption to promote healthy blood sugar levels. so, start feeling lighter and more energetic... by taking metamucil every day. keeping your oysters busihas you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo

now you can trade stocks and etfs... introducing...stocks by the slice from fidelity for any amount you choose... instead of buying by the share. and fidelity allows you to trade fractional shares of stocks and etf's for as little as one dollar. that's more choice and more flexibility than you'll find at schwab all with no commissions,

no account fees and no minimums. stocks by the slice from fidelity. get your slice today. before we talk about tax-s-audrey's expecting... new? -twins! ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan.

as we're looking at the president's live gathering in pennsylvania tonight, we are talking with the governor of new york, andrew cuomo, author of the new book "american crisis." governor cuomo, the president is claiming he's immune to the disease saying he received a cure for covid. that kind of messaging while is not true resonates with people more now because he had the illness. do you worry about people believing that that there is a cure that he's immune that everybody will be? >> yes, it is not true what he's saying anderson. but, we worry about this information? sure, we do. we are living with this virus and our responses are one of the worst on the globe because of

his disinformation. it has been consistent from day one, right? the virus is going to go away by easter or if it is a miracle. this was a democratic hoax and he gets the virus, the regeneron was a cure. it was not a cure. so, it is all disinformation except some people believe it. the way the virus works, the people who believe it and won't wear a mask and don't do social distancing, they keep spreading it. that's why this country loses more people per day to covid than any other industrial nations on the globe because he spreads disinformation and political polarization has now spread public health disinformation. >> what have you learn about leadership in all this? you look at the president, look, he didn't want to panic people back in the daily news

conferences that you would hold which i found very honest and raw and you said what you knew and what you didn't know -- for a lot of new yorkers, oh, we are all part of this and we are in this together. >> yeah, i think that's right. intuitively i knew going in that credibility has to be earned. institutions have lost credibility. it's not enough to say i'm the governor, i'm from the media, i'm from this network. people discount that now. credibility is more personal than anything else. you have to earn it and prove it. this was a unique moment in time. it still is. people are scared.

that's what this is about. it is about the emotion and not the information first. it is about the emotion first. you have to show the same vulnerability that they were feeling. i went first frankly. i communicated 100% genuine, authentic, my emotional truth and my personal truth. i was feeling everything other people were feeling with my daughters and family and my mother. i was afraid and i didn't know where we were. i felt like we were living in a science-fiction movie. i trusted the people. i gave them the information, i never sugar-coated anything. i didn't believe what trump says. well, i didn't want to panic the people. you are not a babysitter. you are a representative, people deserve the truth and the facts. and by the way,

they're responsible people and smart. that's what new yorkers did. you do it in a way that empowers people and unifies people. our states have so many divisions, upstates and down state, democrat, republican, sexual orientation, religions. we were united in a way that i never felt it. it was inspiring to me and it gave me energy and that's what keeps me going. that's what the book is about. when you give them information and you trust them, they respond in kind. i believe that. that's the hope that keeps me going with all this president and the white house and all this politics. people are good and smart, i am trying to go right to the people and give them the information because i believe they'll act responsively.

when they get the information that they believe unfiltered. >> i know it is impossible to say. when do you think the next time in new york city anybody can walk into a restaurant eat inside and not having to wear a mask, just have a normal night out in a restaurant with other people? >> it would have to be, you have to develop a vaccine. people would have to believe it's a vaccine. you have to administer the 20 million people. it would be months and months or a year at least, at least. i believe before you get to that full normal if you will. >> you mentioned your daughters. you write about you tried to make a $10 bet with your daughter that president trump will lose the election and claim voter fraud, and the court will ruled against him.

your daughter did not take the bet. you put even money on that today. are you still sure of that today? >> look, do i see a scenario when trump loses an election? yes. will hoe accept loss? no. do i believe bill barr is his political tool? yes. do they think they can bring a case on voter fraud which they have been talking about for weeks, anderson, right? you always know where they are going if you listen to them. they been building this voter fraud case, they go to the supreme court like bush v. gore, i think they think they will win it at the supreme court. that's their hope and that's why

they want the confirmation now . i think they're planning to win at the supreme court and my optimistic self says the supreme court is going to think of the supreme court first and their integrity and they're not going to want to look like a political shield but that's what the wager is about. >> governor andrew cuomo, i appreciate your time. "american crisis: leadership lessons and covid-19 pandemic." just came out. thanks governor. >> thank you, anderson. amy klobachar will talk about what amy coney barrett would and more often would not answer.

the senate wrapped their two supreme court hearing for amy coney barrett. republicans are hoping for a quick confirmation with democrats today. short time ago kamala harris is not the same.

it's our sharpest ever, and while some other companies would charge more for something new, we don't. because why be like everyone else? harry's. not the same. bebeautiful. butike when i started cobra kai, the lack of control over my business made me a little intense. but now i practice a different philosophy. quickbooks helps me get paid, manage cash flow, and run payroll. and now i'm back on top... with koala kai. hey! more mercy. save over 30 hours a month with intuit quickbooks. the easy way to a happier business.

with priceline, you can get up to 60% off amazing hotels. and when you get a big deal... ...you feel like a big deal. ♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. lookentertainmentour experience: xfinity x1.

it's the easiest way to watch live tv and all your favorite streaming apps. plus, x1 also includes peacock premium at no extra cost. this baby is the total package. it streams exclusive originals, the full peacock movie library, complete collections of iconic tv shows, and more. yup, the best really did get better. magnificent. xfinity x1 just got even better, with peacock premium included at no additional cost. no strings attached.

the senate wrapped their two supreme court hearing for amy coney barrett. republicans are hoping for a quick confirmation with democrats today. short time ago kamala harris spoke about amy coney barrett's impact on the affordable care act also known as obamacare. >> republicans are scrambling to confirm this nominee as fast as possible because they need one more trump's judge on the bench before november 10th to win and strike down the entire affordable care act. this is not hyperbole. this is not a hypothetical. this is happening.

>> our next guest is amy klobachar questioning. >> judge barrett, is it illegal to intimidate voters at the polls? >> i can't characterize the facts and the hypothetical situations and i can't apply the law. >> okay, i make it easier. anyone who intimidates, threatens or attempts to interfering of the right of other person to vote. this is the law that's been in the book for decades. do you think a reasonable person would feel intimidated by the president of arms of civilian groups at the groups of the polls. >> senator klobachar, i am not saying if it is illegal opinion for me. a reasonable person standard as you know is just an opinion as a citizen. it is not something appropriate for me to comment on.

>> joining me now is senator klobachar. i appreciate you being here. i'm wondering what you made of the judge's answer. she talked about integrity. >> i was pretty shocked. this is not a court opinion. this is a law on the books. i was just making a point that's very relevant because as you know a contractor from outside of my state was trying to recruit outsiders former special forces, that's what they asked for to come in and stand at the poll places in minnesota. by the way, that's illegal, i want to make it clear on your show even though she would not it is illegal under minnesota law. you can have one bern person in polling place. you can't intimidate people.

there are all kinds of rules. that's why i asked it and i was shocked as well as the fact that she has a previous opinion she wrote a dissent in which she really down played voting rights to me and talking to them as civic rights as opposed to individual rights. we are losing a seat, of ruth bader ginsburg here. i don't want someone that does not share justice ruth bader ginsburg's profound commitment to rights. she talked about how congress should have the reins. she talked about it in that case how you should not be throwing out the protection for the voting rights act. as i asked the judge today, they got thrown out because of the majority and now over 20 states having enacted laws that suppressed votes. ruth bader ginsburg was right. judge amy coney barrett would not agree she was right.

>> is it fair to assume she would go to donald trump and she will have a lifetime appointment. she would not be beholden to him for job security. those who say give her the benefit of the doubt. >> let's look at what he has said. he wants nine justices on the court after the election. he made it clear. he went as far to say that they could count the ballot. that was a recent statement he made. it is clear what he's thinking. he sent out every sign. i think she could recuse herself and we asked herself today and she would not commit doing that if there is any kind of an election case that runs before the court. unlike michigan judges who had done that. when a case came before their court, they had been on the trump list of potential u.s. supreme court and they recuse themselves. >> we heard from senator harris

before of the challenges of the supreme court to affordable care act. judge barrett says she's quote "not hostile to the aca." how do you square her answers on that? >> well, when i said today finally because she won't commit to where she is on it. i said in northern minnesota, growing up there and my mom would take me on these walks and we would look deer tracks and we would follow those and it is a mystery where they go. i don't think it is a mystery. what we have to do is follow her track. when you follow the track of her record, what do you see? she criticized justice robert for upholding the affordable care act. she was poignant in her criticism. nen another case, she said that

scalia had the stronger of the two arguments. i don't think it's hard to see. scalia is her mentor. you can follow those tracks very, very clearly and they point you in the polar opposite of what ruth bader ginsburg stood for her whole life. >> there is not a path where the judge did not get confirmed, is that correct? >> that's a different path, anderson. i made that point yesterday in my opening that we don't have clever procedural tricks with the way the rules are. i don't think you will see incredible cross-examination that's going to change the trajectory of this judge. one thing can change is the american people. people who have had it, thinking we should be working on a relief

covid packet instead of sitting in that hearing room. this is what you should be doing right now. the people should choose the president and the president should choose the justice and get a covid package relief done. i think many of them have and where this judge is coming from, if anything it should want to make them want to vote. not gist the presidential race but the senate race. >> senator klobachar, we appreciate your time. >> thank you, anderson. a kidnapping focusing on michigan's governor. the rbi announced a second governor was a target. details when we return. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪

(announcer) once-weekly ozempic® is helping many people with type 2 diabetes like emily lower their blood sugar. a majority of adults who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. here's your a1c. oh! my a1c is under 7! (announcer) and you may lose weight. adults who took ozempic® lost on average up to 12 pounds. i lost almost 12 pounds!

oh! (announcer) for those also with known heart disease, ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as heart attack, stroke, or death. it lowers the risk. oh! and i only have to take it once a week. oh! ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ (announcer) ozempic® is not for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not share needles or pens. don't reuse needles. do not take ozempic® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to ozempic®. stop taking ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, itching, rash, or trouble breathing. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your doctor if you have diabetic retinopathy or vision changes. taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase low blood sugar risk. common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, and constipation. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. once-weekly ozempic® is helping me reach my blood sugar goal. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪

you may pay as little as $25 for a 1-month or 3-month prescription. ask your health care provider today about once-weekly ozempic®. proposition 16 takes on discrimination. some women make as little as 42% of what a man makes. voting yes on prop 16

helps us fix that. it's supported by leaders like kamala harris and opposed by those who have always opposed equality. we either fall from grace or we rise. together. proposition 16 provides equal opportunities, levelling the playing field for all of us. vote yes on prop 16. today an fbi agent testified during a preliminary hearing. some of the men also discussed a plot against a second democratic governor. details now from cnn. >> reporter: michigan's governor wasib wasn't the only sitting governor

with a target on his her back. virginia's governor northam was also eyed by the 13 men. charged in a domestic plot charged by the fbi. >> we continue work under a cloud of intimidation and i will continue to serve virginia. >> reporter: the new detail were revealed during a bond hearing. three of the six men were denied release. the others were charged at the state level. in an early june meeting the group discussed possible targets including taking out a sitting governor, governors of michigan and virginia over shutdown orders due to the coronavirus. an informant who attended that meeting flogged the potential violence to the fbi. whitmer and northam both democrats and criticized particularly by the president. who said this. >> i might, be careful. i'll will be. we're going after virginia with your crazy governor.

they want to take your second amendment away, right? >> reporter: trump singled out the two states in tweets. liberate virginia and liberate michigan. >> when language is used to liberate virginia, people, they find meaning in those words and thus these things happen. and it is regrettable. >> reporter: the white house said in a statement that the president condemns white supremacists and passing the blame on the governors. it is not clear if the group's plan were inspired by the president's tweets. they did carry out the kidnapping by election day. in another option the agent tested wanted to take her out on a boat and leave her out in the middle of michigan and disable her engine. >> i knew this job could be hard but i never could have imagined anything like this. >> reporter: a federal complaint

showing the men, some recruited from wolverine watchmen connected to rallies and on social media. together they planned and practiced and conducted the surveillance in hoping of executing the kidnapping. brynn gingras, cnn new york. >> let's get perspective with elizabeth newman. and also with us, former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin. elizabeth, are you surprised of the kidnap also including governor northam. what the scope the suspects was interested in? >> yeah, i am not surprised. i am sure we'll find more

tidbits that draw similar connections. i don't think that what we are dealing with, we have a group of people that were antigovernment. the pandemic increased their antagonism towards the government. when you add somebody like the president putting more rhetoric on their to liberate michigan and liberate virginia. and i approach dwlat he just thinks that he's using political rhetoric. groups like these, they view that as a call to arms. so the caution for all leadership is to realize we are in a very tense situation within our country, the pandemic makes it tense and the election period makes it tense. every leader has the responsibility to be cautious and how it is interpreted by a threat actor. >> is it weird that the attorney general had not publicly

commented on this case? it involves two sitting governors and it seems like a big deal for the justice department in the fbi. >> we live in a country where it >> fortunately we live in a country where it's rare that governors get kidnapped. and you would think it would be something that the attorney general would want to call attention to. but what we've seen with attorney general barr is he only wants to call attention to donald trump's enemies. he's happy to talk about antifa and the violence in portland and in seattle. and those should be prosecuted. but this threat seems much bigger. and it's also, you know, worth mentioning that, you know, the attorney general's silence is revealing in another way. today we learned in the "washington post" that one of his big investigations of so-called unmasking of people that supposedly that the obama administration unmasked people

who were in intelligence intercepts and that was a big scandal, they're not even going to do a report because the whole thing turned out to be so bogus. that's what the attorney general is interested in, not the actual threat of these militia groups. >> all the unmasking stuff, which has been talked about on, you know, fox on and on and on and on, it all amounts to nothing. >> john bash, the u.s. attorney who was in charge of that investigation left the justice department this week without filing a report. the whole thing went away. we have the president of the united states calling for barack obama and joe biden to be indicted and prosecuted for their role in this, and it's nothing. it's absolutely nothing. >> elizabeth, you know, for the second time in less than a week, the white house placed the blame on the governors involved, accusing them of outlandish allegations, for saying the president's rhetoric is at least

partly to blame. does that echo your experience in this white house? >> absolutely not, anderson. i thought their -- even their most recent statement saying they condemn white supremacy tells me they're not paying attention. it's possible they held white supremacist views, but these are antigovernment extremists and who associate with militia movements. they had qanon and good boys adherence. even the case five days later, more interested in keeping blame on two governors who were subject to the kidnapping plot. it kind of boggles the mind how much they're not interested in doing their jobs and just se seemingly answering the mail so that they can get back to running a re-election campaign. >> yeah. >> and it's not -- you know, this is not new. if you listen to their rhetoric,

it's timothy mcvay, it is terry nickels, it is the militia movement from the 90s because it's been encouraged by the president of the united states. >> thank you. with the election three weeks from today, florida's votes are critical. they're considered essential to victory. up next, randy k with an update. we're helping change the future of heart failure. understanding how to talk to your doctor about treatment options is key. today, we are redefining how we do things. we find new ways of speaking, so you're never out of touch. it's seeing someone's face that comforts us, no matter where. when those around us know us,

they can show us just how much they care. the first steps of checking in, the smallest moments can end up being everything. there's resources that can inform us, and that spark can make a difference. when we use it to improve things, then that change can last within us. when we understand what's possible, we won't settle for less. the best thing we can be is striving to be at our best. managing heart failure starts now with understanding. call today or go online to understandhf.com for a free hf handbook. call today or go online to understandhf.com and sweetie can coloryou just be... gentle with the pens. okey. okey. i know. gentle..gentle new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database

so you can start hiring right away. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home.

proposition 16 takes on discrimination. some women make as little as 42% of what a man makes. voting yes on prop 16 helps us fix that. it's supported by leaders like kamala harris and opposed by those who have always opposed equality. we either fall from grace or we rise. together. proposition 16 provides equal opportunities, levelling the playing field for all of us. vote yes on prop 16. taking california for a ride. companies like uber, lyft, doordash. breaking state employment laws for years. now these multi-billion-dollar companies wrote deceptive prop 22 to buy themselves a new law. to deny drivers the rights they deserve. no sick leave. no workers' comp. no unemployment benefits. vote no on the deceptive

uber, lyft, doordash prop 22. one ride california doesn't want to take. former vice president biden spent most of the day campaigning in florida. president trump held a rally in the state on friday and he's returning to say the state is important to both sides, which trump won in 2016 with a lot of hope from voters 65 and older. randi kaye is on the ground and has been talking with some of florida's seniors. >> definitely going to vote for joe biden. there's nothing that donald

trump could do at this point in time that would change my mind about that. >> reporter: that's a huge statement coming from this life long republican who voted for donald trump in 2016. but steven is 67, a senior citizen and part of the group considered one of the most vulnerable to covid-19. he's so turned off by trump, he's now a registered independent and biden supporter. he says trump's mismanagement of the pandemic was the final straw, especially his messaging on masks. >> the fact he's not listening to the scientists is a concern, and the fact he's ignoring it and encouraging the opposite is dangerous. he's taking people's lives into his hands. >> reporter: do you believe the president when he says the vaccine is days or weeks away. >> no. whatever comes out of his mouth you don't believe. >> reporter: florida senior david davidson also supported trump in 2016, but not this year even though he's registered republican. >> what is it about the pandemic he didn't handle right in your opinion?

>> starting with the very beginning, not giving me the truth. >> didn't want anybody to panic. >> that's a wonderful thing. however wouldn't it be nice for us to have all the information and then make our decisions. >> reporter: unlike his neighbors, republican john is voting trump just like he did in 2016. at 74, he says it's about personal responsibility, that seniors should know how to protect themselves. >> when you say the president handled the pandemic well, we have 215,000 americans dead, wisconsin opening a field hospital they're seeing such a spike. hospitalizations are up once again. how did he handle that well? >> we deliver health care in this country through state and local government. the federal government has a responsibility to support that. we have to look at how those states have handled their pandemic within their own regions and whether or not they have done a good job -- >> so you're saying it's not the president's fault? >> i'm saying the president is

not the sole responsible person for how the pandemic was hannaled. >> tell that the michelle yeager who's turning 70 this week. she blames trump's lack of action early on for the virus spread and won't vote for him again. she was a registered republican in 2016 when she voted for trump, but she's since switched to independent and is supporting biden. >> had he listened to the cdc and dr. fauci and the leaders who are the science leaders, we might have been able to save many, many lives. but because of him and him being -- having narcissism and being ego driven, he thought it was macho not to wear a mask. >> randi joins me now. i wonder what the voters told you how that compares to voting for senior polls. >> reporter: some voting are tighter than others. national voters 65 and olde