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controversial proposal to build herd immunity. cnn learning senior administration officials have been discussing a petition called the great berington declaration. this was written by a group of unorthodox scientists that calls for ending lockdowns and allowing the coronavirus to spread freely among young healthy people. they write "we know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity. ie, the point at which the rate

of new infections is stable and this can be assisted by, but is not dependent upon, a vaccine. so how does this group believe they will reach herd immunity if not from a vaccine? just to state the obvious here, through infection. they write, those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. schools and universities should be open. extracurricular activities such as sports should resume. restaurants and other businesses should open. arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. now, look, we've all had these conversations at home. resuming life as normal sounds great. we all want that and want it tomorrow. but we want life when it actually resumes to be normal. the devil is in the details, because these doctors are saying their idea, this crucial point is not dependent on a vaccine. they're depending on tens of

millions of americans to get infected. the president himself has touted this idea, letting it rip. >> it would go away without the vaccine, george. but it's going to go away a lot faster -- >> it would go away without the vaccine? >> sure, with time. >> and many deaths. >> and you'll develop a herd mentality. it will be herd developed, and that's going to happen. that will all happen. >> trusted medical experts today one after another slam thing idea of achieving herd immunity without a vaccine. 14 public health organizations in a statement said it's not based in science. 80 researchers just wrote an open letter in the medical journal which they write this approach to controlling coronavirus is "a dangerous fallacy, unsupported by the scientific evidence." and according to the infectious diseases society of america, "promoting the concept of herd

immunity as framed in a recently circulated document as an answer to the covid-19 pandemic is inappropriate, irresponsible, and ill-informed." and there's this -- >> if everyone contracted it, even with the relatively high percentage of people who are without symptoms, a lot of people are going to die. >> allowing a dangerous virus that we don't fully understand to run free is simply uneducated. letting the virus circulate unchecked, therefore means allowing unnecessary infections, suffering, and death. >> herd immunity is another word for mass murder. that is exactly what it is. >> all right. so they're saying what we've all learned. this whole idea of separating society out, most people have had this conversation, could we do it? this idea that you could do it

and only infect healthy young people, doesn't work. here's a powerful analogy. society is like an omelet. people with underlying conditions are mixed in everywhere. a lot of people don't each know who they are. you can't unscramble the only het enough to prevent millions of unnecessary deaths. even if you are still okay with that, keep this in mind, the economy will close back down when that happens and death climbs in those populations. it will. you can't get the economy back. jim acosta is "outfront" at the president's rally tonight in des moines where they approached and saw that big bill board. you have been talking to the president's supporters there. i saw one mask there. what are they telling you? >> reporter: erin, the president, as you've been explaining, is super spreading his way to election day, and this crowd in des moines, iowa, is by and large not wearing masks, not practicing social distancing. we talked to some trump supporters on the way in, and they told us they're not

worried, they don't think they're going to get sick. here's some of what they had to say. any health concerns with covid going around and being at a large event, what do you think about that, sir? >> well, i care about people. i don't want to give it to them if there's a chance you might be carrying it around myself. but i'm not worried. i figure the sooner we all get it, the sooner we'll be done with it. >> reporter: and there are some covid contradictions going on at this event. the governor of iowa, who is at this rally earlier this evening, has already issued a proclamation saying people should avoid large crowds and do social distancing. that is not happening at this event that she is attending right now. the white house coronavirus task force has also advised the state of iowa to avoid having large crowd type events like the president is having here this evening.

oh so t so the president and the governor are flouting recommendations coming from the governor of the state, and the white house coronavirus task force. it is just stunning and reckless. erin? >> jim, thank you very much. i want to go now first to kaitlan collins at the white house. the white house showing a lot of interest in this herd immunity plan that i was just laying out. >> reporter: yeah, and the idea that they've been receptive to this idea goes against what people on the task force, leaders on the task force, like dr. anthony fauci vshgs been saying for months. this is not an idea that is realistic here in the united states, unless you want to get to it by going through all these tos of preventable deaths and severe illness. this idea of herd immunity is basically pushed by these scientists and embraced by the white house is it would spread among a healthier, younger population, and protecting the more vulnerable populations. what we have heard from so many

scientists is they believe this would cause a new amount of deaths that would be unnecessary. so you heard from dr. anthony fauci, we heard from other experts who says this amounts to mass murder. but we heard from the infectious disease society of america, who said this would be ill informed for anyone to pursue this position. they say right now they believe only about 10% of the american population has gotten this. that means 90% is still susceptible to getting coronavirus. so you're seeing how many people have died, if it's only 10% that has gotten it. as sanjay gupta said, 70% of people would have to get covid-19 to get herd immunity achieved. so you can do the death count on that. >> looking at over a million. i want to go now to dr. ian lipkin from columbia university, obviously you yourself have recovered from coronavirus and

you were quite sick, doctor. let me just ask you, this overall idea, i just want to put it out there. this is an idea a lot of people watching have seriously entertained, because there is this hope that if you just separate out a certain group of people, we can protect them around everybody else can go back. i don't want to pretend people haven't had this conversation, because they have. but when you look at it, it doesn't work that way. why? >> well, as your other speakers have said, this is ill-informed and also unethical. it's predicated on the notion, first of all, that infection results and protective immunity, we don't understand immunity in this disease at all. so some people will recover, many people, we have some examples now where people become reinfected. let's accept for the moment that you can achieve immunity once you've been infected. there's still problems. the notion that only older

people are susceptible is simply not true. if you look at the number of people who are between the -- less than 65 years of age, we've lost at least 40,000 of them so far in the u.s. alone. so that's not a small number. >> no. >> in addition, some of those younger people have lingering symptoms for months. some 20% of them. cognitive difficulties, crippling fatigue, other sorts of problems. further more, if you think in terms of what is required to achieve herd immunity, we're talking between 60% and 80% of the population. so we have a population of 330 million. let's say we're just talking about the adults. 75%. that's 250 million people. to get 70% of those people infected would require that 175 million people become infected.

and of those, 100 million would probably have disease. the most conservative estimates that we have for case fatality is around 2.5%. that means we could lose over 2 million people. and we could have over 35 million with severe consequences. so the whole kons sent concept g to get there without a vaccine is obscene. >> so when you hear that, scott atlas, the president's neuroradiologist is now advising on coronavirus. he's been on this show opposed to any sort of mask requirements and embracing this idea. what do you think when you hear this coming out of the white house? >> well, this reflects the problems that we've had with leadership on a wide range of fronts. but we have very good people who are on the task force to whom

our leaders should be listening. fauci is one, birx is another, and redfield has had excellent things to say. we all right now need to hunker down, wear our masks, engage in physical distancing until such time we have both a vaccine and drugs that we know are easily taken and are effective. that's some time in the future. but it's not the end -- you know, it's not an implausible situation if we engage in protecting ourselves and one another, we'll get there. so i think we will see the first vaccines for people who are on the frontlines before the end of the year. shortly thereafter, those people who are very vulnerable to get the vaccine by summer or fall of next year. we will all have an opportunity to have the vaccine. so the other thing we need to focus on is getting people to be willing to take the vaccine. which is another thrust of our

work. >> all right. >> but this declaration is, you know, it's unfounded. >> all right. dr. lipkin, i appreciate your time. thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you. bye-bye. next, people across the country waiting for hours to vote early. we're live in texas with the voters. >> the man himself is turning a lot of red voting people into blue for this election. plus, i'll speak to two political newcomers taking on two of the most powerful republicans in the nation. jaime harrison and amy mcgrath about her fight to unseat mitch mcconnell. and why did an investigation into trump's campaign finances shut down an entire floor at a federal courthouse? our exclusive report.

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breaking news. a record breaking number of voters in counties across the u.s. and if texas. more than 14 million ballots already cast across the united states. and people have been waiting in line, right, weeks before election day up to ten hours in some places to vote early. ed lavandera is "outfront" in richardson, texas, a suburb of

dallas. when you see lines like the ones we see in the pictures, you're talking to people whochlt are these voters and what are they telling you? >> reporter: what it tells you is that there's a great deal of enthusiasm and probably not a lot of undecided voters left out there. we've spoken with dozens of voters over the last couple of days on the first few days of early voting. there's a great deal of intensity as to what they see. obviously, we're here in richardson, texas, a great deal of focus on these types of suburbs in dallas and houston. these are the areas where political operatives will be watching very closely as the votes unfold. these are the areas of texas where it's believed that president trump has alienated reliably republican voters. these are areas of texas that have been republican for decades, and what you see is, at least from a republican standpoint, is alarming number of people switching over. this is a sample of the voters we spoke with today.

>> i work in the environment group. families can't even come and see their children with covid because they're sick. >> we're voting for peace and tranquility again. the man himself is turning this -- turning a lot of red voting people into blue for this election. >> i voted for republican all my life. i don't think -- i think there's more republicans that are moving to the other side this election. >> do you mind if i ask you who you're voting for? >> trump. >> why are you voting for president trump? >> i feel like whatever he said he had to do, i think he's completed the majority of it. >> reporter: and erin, we'll be frank here, there's still -- the republicans and democrats, anyone talking honestly about the situation here in texas will tell you it is still a long shot for joe biden to win this state. but jill biden has spent the day

here yesterday campaigning in el paso, dallas. money is being spent here in the state. this is something that texas voters are simply not used to in a presidential election year. i think one thing to look at very closely, the number of newly registered voters in this state has jumped by about 2 million in just the last four years. so the big question is, how are those voters going to turn out? president trump only beat hillary clinton by 800,000 votes in this state four years ago. >> thank you very much, ed. i want to bring in gloria borger now, and national political reporter for "the new york times." so 14 million votes cast so far. if you're in texas, your voter registrations are more than double. trump's margin of victory last time around. not saying that texas is in play, but these are important numbers to pay attention to, and you see democrats as the primary casters of these early ballots

on the map right now. you can see this in the battleground states. what do you read into that? there's this out there that okay, democrats are going to vote early, but the trump voters are going to flood on election day. is that fair to expect? >> i think some of these numbers are worth voting. some of them you have to wait longer to really know what they mean. we expect democrats to lean more into voting early and by mail, in certain states, and it's not a surprise we're seeing that level of enthusiasm. we expect the kind of republican, the base of trump to do more in person voting on election day. but the point about democrat enthusiasm, we have seen since 2016 a wave, an overwhelming amount of evidence that says that democrats have been newly engaged by the trump era. that was evident the day after the inauguration with the women's march. it was evident in the midterm

elections that saw the house flip. and it's been evident in the down ballot races since. so i think that's going to continue. the problem for president trump that sometimes we forget this, is the margins of his victory in 2016, was minuscule in these states. it was not an overwhelming rejection of the democratic party. and that's something he has to overcome. >> gloria, tonight in that context, the republican governor of massachusetts put out a statement saying he will not rote for president trump. now, look, he's a moderate, he's in a very liberal state, we know that he didn't vote for trump or clinton in 2016. so i give all that context to say it's not a surprise, but for him to come out and say this explicitly, is it -- is it a sign of a problem for the president in terms of his ability to broaden his support? >> sure. it's a sign of exhaustion by

rank and file republicans and repulsion at donald trump. you have republicans, john kasich, cindy mccain, colin powell, the list goes on and on, rank and file republicans, some of whom have endorsed joe biden in a full-throated way. some of whom just said i'm not going to vote for donald trump. but what you're seeing is a republican party struggling to kind of find itself. and define itself other than by donald trump. and the way these people can do this is to tell the american public, look, we are not defined by donald trump. we're exhausted by him. and we want to turn the page on this very quickly. it's easier for these people to do this, than it is for a republican senator who might be up for re-election in a state like iowa, for example, who believes like joni ernst that she needs donald trump to win

re-election. we will see how that goes for her. but people are coming out in droves saying we have had enough. >> and it's i guess, in some cases i'm sure based upon convictions, and in others they want to be on the record before when they expect will be a biden win, so they want to get out ahead of that. instead of the debate tomorrow night, we're going to see biden and trump holding houn tall ii. we've never seen anything like this. the first debate was obviously a mess, right? and we learned nothing and it was unpleasant. but i separated the two candidates, when trump decided he wasn't going to do this debate. is this going to be better that we'll have a more informed conversation because they're each on their own? >> i think there's a possibility. i don't think you can get less informed than the first debate. we have nowhere to go but up. but i think when we look at tomorrow, those town halls allow voters to ask candidates

questions directly. we've seen biden participate in these. i think that gives folks an opportunity to at least hear from them in advance of what we do think will be another debate coming soon. let's remember, these have not often times served the president well, because he invites his own controversy in these things. he may not be going directly at biden, but he's sure to get questions on topics he likes to stay away from. so many of his interviews were with friendly interviewers and folks who were spoon-feeding him layup questions for so long. when he gets out of that bubble, we've seen him struggle. next, i'm going to talk to two rising democrats taking on two of the biggest names in the republican party, including amy mcgrath trying to oust mitch mcconnell. what did she think about mitch mcconnell laughing off stimulus relief in their debate? >> the senate went on vacation. i mean, you just don't do that. plus, a cnn exclusive.

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tonight, republican senator lindsey graham losing the money war. graham announcing he raised $28 in the third quarter for a senate race. that sounds huge, but it is less than half of his democratic opponent, jaime harrison's record breaking $57 million haul. this comes as republicans grow worried about president trump's effect on down ballot races. tonight, we have two candidates joining us who are taking on two

of the most powerful republicans in the senate. jaime harrison is running against lindsey graham in south carolina. and amy mcgrath, who is challenging mitch mcconnell in kentucky. so senator graham's campaign announced today that he's raised less than half of how much you have brought in. and the race is a toss-up according to the political report. so right now, today, how do you feel about your odds? >> well, erin, i feel really good. the momentum is on our side. the energy is on our side. people are ready to send lindsey graham home because he's forgotten about south carolina. you know, the urgency that he has had to shepherd through the supreme court nomination, i wish he would have had that same urgency to get a covid relief bill here in south carolina. we've had 3500 people in this state to die, including my aunt.

750,000 lost their jobs, and many are losing their homes or being evicted from their homes. many small businesses are going under. and i really wish lindsey could focus just a little bit of that energy and focus on the people here in south carolina. but because he has forgotten that, it's the people of south carolina that sit in washington, d.c. that will remind him on november 3rd and send him home. >> you mentioned the coronavirus pandemic, which has been important in your race. you brought a plexiglass divider to your debate last month with senator lindsey graham, which came days after president trump tested positive. you were supposed to debate again friday, but he refused to take a coronavirus test and there was no debate. why do you think this is? that he's doing this? >> erin, your guess is as good as mine. i just don't understand why he won't take this issue seriously. he didn't take it seriously from the start. he started off saying success

here is if 50,000 people die. and then, you know, 75,000. and he kept moving the goal line around. and then, this is the same guy, erin, again, i told you 750,000 people in a state of 5 million have lost their jobs. lindsey graham, over our dead bodies, will reallow a federal extension of the unemployment benefit. the most you get here in south carolina on unemployment is $327 a week. so if you're a family of four and you are the only person who has a job in your family, how do you take care of your family and pay your rent and pay your car payment and all these other things with $320 a week? this is a buy two is just simply out of touch. >> let me ask you about something that happened today at the amy coney barrett hearing. senator lindsey graham referenced segregation during the hearings, calling it "the good old days. "here he is. let me play it for you.

>> one of the reasons that you can say with confidence that you think brown versus board of education is super precedent is that you're not aware of any effort to go back to the good old days of segregation by legislative body, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> now, graham told cnn he made that comment with "deep sarcasm." what do you think when you heard it? >> well, erin, maybe lindsey was being sarcastic. i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. it just shows how out of touch he really is. because you take these comments with the comments that he just said a few days ago, which he said that black people in south carolina, you know, if they're not conservative, they can't go anywhe anywhere. they things just don't make sense. this is also the same guy who said he would campaign and he actually did, with a woman who said, jokingly, she wanted to be on the front row of a lynching.

you represent a state of 30% of the state are african-americans. 40% of black folks in this country came through the port of charleston because of slavery. you would think you would have a sensitivity to the type of language that you are going to use. but it just shows that lindsey graham represents what i call the old south. we're talking about building a new south, one that is bold, inclusive and diverse, where all of our voices are valued. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time. jaime harrison challenging senator lindsey graham. now i want to go to amy mcgrath, running against the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell in kentucky. amy, the polls where you are generally have showed you behind. but there has not been polling since president trump's positive coronavirus test, hospitalization, or the death of the supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. have you seen a turn? >> well, i have. and i think what you saw two nights ago in the debate is you have a senator who came back

here to kentucky and all he had was excuses for his failure to get a coronavirus relief bill passed. and this is, you know, what kentuckians care about. we have here in kentucky a million kentuckians that have filed for unemployment in the last six months. we have 300,000 kentuckians without health care. we have a senator who, you know, in the debate when i challenged him on his failed leadership, you know, because he's not just a member of the senate, he's the leader of the senate who can't get it done in the middle of a national crisis. you know, he started to laugh. and i think that it's just -- it shows you that he has been there in washington too long. he's a part of the problem so much that he doesn't even know what the problem is any more. everything is about politics for him. >> let me play that moment. you know, you mentioned the debate. you're talking about the stimulus bill, and here is his

response when you were speaking about why isn't there a stimulus bill, here's what happened. >> the house passed a bill in may, and the -- the -- the senate went on vacation. i mean, you -- [ laughter ] -- just don't do that. you negotiate. senator, sit a national crisis. you knew that the coronavirus wasn't going to end at the end of july. we knew this. i just think that you've got -- and here's the thing, if you want to call yourself a leader, you've got to get things done. >> so he did laugh and continued to laugh as you were speaking. what was your feeling as to why he did that? >> well, i mean, i think he's just -- it's like he's laughing at kentucky. our problems here are real. and he's incapable of seeing them, because, you know, if you take a step back, you would not be ramming through a supreme

court justice right now. you would be negotiating for aid. he didn't see the urgency to negotiate for aid, more aid, back in the spring. and all summer long, it didn't do anything on this, and here we are today with, you know, so many kentuckians that need help. and i think what it shows in the debate is when you put us side by side, you see somebody and my fellow kentuckians can see he's not somebody that is listening to them and not somebody who is working for them. >> amy, thank you very much. i do want to make it clear to all of you, we have invited lindsey graham and mitch mcconnell to join us. i hope nell athey will and talk their races. both have so far declined. but they're welcome on "outfront" any time. next, a cnn exclusive. a secret investigation into trump's finances that lasts three years. and coronavirus kilts his father and seven other family members. now it's taken away his

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until this year, deciding not to pursue charges. evan perez is "outfront." evan, let's go through what we know and don't know. this is not something that we had any idea about until today, right? >> reporter: that's right, erin. this investigation was conducted with the utmost secrecy, given the sensitivity. it started soon after president trump won the presidency in 2016, continued until this summer, and has never been described publicly. we spoke to more than a dozen sources familiar with the effort, in addition to what we learned in newly reveesed court documents and hints from public records, the sources told cnn that fbi investigators first became interested in the case after intelligence, including from an informant, suggested that trump's last-minute $10 million injection into his campaign less than two weeks before the 2016 election could have been backed by money that came overseas through an egyptian state owned bank. it's not clear that investigators ever had concrete evidence of a relevant bank

transfer, but multiple sources said that there was sufficient information that justifies seeking a subpoena in court, and to keep the investigation open, even after the mueller investigation ended. this investigation of a potential campaign finance law violation began with the fbi and the u.s. attorney in washington before special counsel mueller took it on, that was largely conducted by mueller's team of investigators. when mueller was done, the investigation continued. it was handed back to the u.s. attorney here in washington who soon afterwards told the court that it was still a robust probe, but they never felt that they got all of the records that they needed from the egyptian bank. it was just this summer that the case was closed with no charges filed. now, among the chief questions that prosecutors sought to answer but never did was whether donald trump was supported by or indebted to a foreign power. special counsel robert mueller had no comment from the story,

but we got a comment from jason miller who said "president trump has never received money from egypt." >> pretty incredible, when you say the chief questions is whether donald trump was supported or indebted to a foreign power. it is stunning that there is such a question and we still do not have the answer to it. one way that answer could be obtained is getting more of the financial statements of this president. was there never discussion among this investigation of getting subpoenaing the president's own financial records? >> well, multiple sources, erin, tell us last year prosecutors in washington proposed pushing for the president's financial records. the decision went to then u.s. attorney, after weeks of poring over the records, rejected the subpoena request, deciding there wasn't enough evidence to meet the standard for the subpoena. interestingly, she did not close the case. as for the justice department,

here ask whis what a senior jus department official said, the case was first looked at by the special counsel investigators who failed to bring a case. then looked at by the u.s. attorney's office and career prosecutors in the national security section who also were unable to bring a case. based on the recommendations of both the fbi and those career prosecutors, the acting u.s. attorney formally closed the case. >> so evan, the special counsel's office was known for keeping these things very secret. you remember this whole floor, everything was secret. there were never any leaks about this, even after the case closed. why do you think that was? >> reporter: well, the egyptian investigation was never actually mentioned overtly in the mueller report. it's listed among 11 cases that mueller transferred to other prosecutors when the investigation ended. but the entry was on this was redacted. the only public indication was this secretive court proceedings

over a subpoena that mueller's team issued to an unnamed foreign company for records. mueller's team had the court lock down an entire floor of the federal courthouse, allowing attorneys to enter and exit without being seen. neither the company or the details of what prosecutors were after was ever publicly disclosed. but cnn is told that it was a fight with the state-owned egyptian bank. by the way, a spokesman for the egyptian president did not comment for this story. >> we should be clear, state-owned egyptian bank goes straight to the egyptian president. this investigation continued under bill barr's office. did prosecutors explain why it did go under barr? >> we know that they told the court that the investigation was continuing robustly. they said even very much alive issue. we know about the consideration of the subpoena, but that's

about it. the case was closed without investigators really getting an answer to their ultimate question, which was, was donald trump supported by or indebted to a foreign power? >> all right. evan, thank you very much. that crucial question, i mean, we know right now from "the new york times" reporting, $400 million in debt due the next few years by donald trump, to whom we don't know. norm eisen, special counsel for the democrats joins me now. norm, let me just -- all of this you just heard from evan, three-year investigation still unable to answer the most crucial question, was president trump supported by or indebted to a foreign power. we don't know the answer to that after all this? >> erin, it's shocking. you know, you would think after four years there would not be any new revelations to alarm us. but here's another one. because these questions of

foreign money have swirled around donald trump from the beginning of his administration, and they continue to come out with payments from the philippines, india, turkey, millions of dollars revealed by "the new york times." and now this allegation. this is the worst of the trump scandals, because it features questions, and they are just questions. but it features questions about foreign influence, national security, and illegal campaign cash. and what effect that might have had. and the darkness. it is yet another disturbing and unanswered set of questions. >> it certainly is. i still find it amazing, whatever the real answer is here, that the u.s. intelligence services themselves never knew who that money was owed to, such that we understand at this time. you obviously were the ethics czar under president obama and so you know this story well. for years, president trump has

claimed the obama administration was conspiring against him and spying on him, and outing key trump officials, including the former national security adviser michael flynn, that so-called unmasking would backfire on president obama and joe biden. here's just some of what he has said. >> there's a big thing going on right now, which is spying, and it's -- you can call it anything you want. the unmasking, and the spying. to me, that's the big story. they used the intelligence agencies of our country to try and steal an election. this was at the highest level of treason, and obama and biden got caught spying on my campaign. >> according to "the washington post," the investigation ordered by the attorney general bill bar into this issue, the outing of flynn and others has wrapped up and found no wrong doing and

there will be no charges. your reaction? that's a story department under bill barr and these trump u.s. attorneys pursued those. here i have and yes you have the toxic trump lies, and 20,000 lies. you have trump's attacks on his enemies using all his power. the rules of law survived. apparently, mr. bash, the u.s. attorney appointed to investigate this. he had strong trump ties.

you have one that shows the challenges of the rule of law and one that shows the rule of law. the american people are about to make a decision which work in that road will they go down. >> thank you very much, as we leave here the reporting of tonight the president saying if you would reappoint barr if he's reelected. i am not happy of a man who's been more loyal than anyone but he does not like stories like that. the personal toll of the pandemic. the virus killed this man's father and seven of his family members and now it has taken his livelihood. little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression

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no one can watch that and not be moved. thank you very much for joining us, "360" begins now. as you look at the president's third night on his super spreader tour. think about this. the minnesota department of health reports it now traces 16 cases of covid to the president's trip there last month. it is clear that the president does not care of the virus spreading at his rallies. the question tonight has the president decided to go for so-called immunity. the idea simply put is let as many healthy people to catch the virus. it is not as new idea. he once said he rejects it. he seems to let many of his