victory. >> i'm glad a lot of people in the line were wearing masks. thank you. news continues. i'm going to hand it over to chris. >> thank you very much. i am chris cuomo and welcome to prime time. we learned today that trump's teenage son had covid, good news. they say he was asymptomatic and is now negative. but here is why i bring it up. how can trump keep holding potential super spreader events that will sicken other folks and maybe their kids after what his own family has been through? i can relate to very little when it comes to trump's motivations. we may have grown up in the same place, but we are very different people. but this i can relate to. i got my wife and son sick just like he did. but with me, it crushed me. it left me ashamed and super sensitive to keeping people safe. now, with trump not only does he not really talk about either of

them that much, but he's parading around like superman and saying he understands covid better now. well, if he does, why is he only doing things that will make it worse for others? not only did he fail to keep his own family safe, like i did, but it's what you do after you make that mistake. it kills me that the shame and the fear of what might have happened, the way it plagues me to this day, and yet he doesn't seem to give a damn. that's why i'm floored that after what he has lived he's insisting on making more people sick. listen to him. >> barron trump, you know, he had -- he had the coronavirus 19, the china virus. he had it for such a short period of time. i don't think he knew he had it because they're young and their immune systems are strong and they fight it off.

99.9%. and barron is beautiful and he's free, free. get the kids back to school. we got to get the kids back to school. >> none of this makes sense to me as a father. i got to be honest. he doesn't think his kid knew that he had it. yeah, he did. wouldn't you know? weren't you talking to him about it? weren't you in constant contact the way i was and every other parent because you're scared to death even when they're asymptomatic. god forbid what will happen. where does this nonthat lance come from? and they have to go back to school. no kidding. everybody has been saying that for months. and every time you have said it, i have asked you the same damn question, and i know you have heard it and i know people have come to you to talk about letting them do more and you say no. how? how do they get back to school in i got three kids with three different schedules, and my

family is lucky. i got money. i can pay. i can have people help us. i request have tutors. they don't even have internet in some of these places. where is the better testing strategy. where is the protection for the people who need it? where are the better ideas? instead he's at his third maskless masquerade of the week. in iowa, the positivity rate is 30% there, up from last week. this is what we want? did you see this sign over here, this way to the trump covid super spreader event. it's mocking, but it is also the truth, directly across from tonight's maga rally in des moines. and, you know, people still going. why? well, a big reason is they believe that covid is nothing to fear because he keeps saying it. >> you can't live your life in

fear, and i'm not really scared of this virus. there is all kinds of other viruses out there that could jeopardize your health as well so can't stop living. >> it's a 99.9% survival rate, and i am going to continue to live my life. trump getting the virus shows that we are all human and anyone can get the virus. and you can be cautious and you can get the virus. >> if i'm going to get sick and die, i guess it's my turn. but i trust god and i'm not scared. >> but if you don't put yourself at risk, you might not die. >> i put myself at risk every time i go to the grocery store, i go to work, i do anything. i'm not going to stop living. >> if you would just tell them to wear masks, they would do it. it can't hurt them. it can't hurt you.

can you really care this little about anyone else? you know what they're saying doesn't make sense. you know that their confidence in it is so largely founded on you having said it first. look, to the reasonable out there, just look what the lack of leadership is doing to us, to all of us. just look at a map. just show them a map. there is no green. there is no covid good zones. you see the green, 10% to 50%? i know i say it every night. i know it's repetitive. how can i stop getting this message out when the pandemic is getting worse and worse than the spread of the virus is our inaction. can you not notice that our federal government is bringing nothing new to the task? no better ideas? ignoring it is not a plan. no state is trending in the right direction. there is a sea of red on that

map. 36 states with covid exploding. that is on you, mr. president. where is your wall mentality to keep us well? where are the better ideas? where are the better ideas for testing and tracing? hey, look, if you want to mimic this idea about herd immunity and selective protection, then let's have the discussion. bring us the ideas. how would you change things so that you can be safer so our kids can go to school. right now they can't. because for every barron, for every mario, my son who gets sick but they're okay, there is a teacher. there is somebody pushing a broom, there is someone making lunch, there is someone driving a bus, and they're not those kids. and they're not as blessed and as lucky as these kids with the infrastructure around them to make everything okay. and not all kids get lucky.

how can you say to send them to school when you know it's not safe? and, look, i read the same research that you get talked to about. i know that kids are in better shape. but everyone around them, they live in a community, not a silo. you're barely making better something to give lip service to. why don't you do something that isn't just making it worse? it may be not just the best way to lead, but it may be your only way to win. and obviously that's all you care about. it has to be, because you're willing to lure people into these lured maga madness masquerad masquerades, but i guess the fact that you are doing these rallies, the fact that you do them at all knowing what you know from your own family and from all the research and the experts who tell you you are

doing the wrong thing, i guess you holding these rallies kind of gives me my answer, that making a positive difference, surrendering the me to the we, it is not what you are about. you are about a war of attrition. you are about scorched earth. you are about everything and everyone else loses so you can win. anybody who voices opposition, every institution, every truth, all of it, you will tear it down if you think it elevates you in your own mind. sure, i'm a liar, but they all lie. sure, i'm bad, but he's bad, too. you can't trust anybody, so you might as well trust me. sad. maybe sick. but it may also be successful. at least in your mind. how else can i explain to this audience that you decided to spit on our navy seal heroes who took out bin laden?

a lunatic responsible for 9/11, the only closure so many in this nation got. for what? to prove to your base that you alone can be trusted. you pass around this b.s. from a conspiracy group that the fbi labels a potential domestic terror threat, a group that claims that you are going to save us from some kabal of satan worshipping cannibals? i guess that's enough for you. they can't be all bad. this group claims bin laden is still alive. our government used a body double. and then you retweet that insanity, that insult to all the men, all the women, all the treasure, all the blood to find that fiend and take him out, to salvage the dignity of this country and the strong message that if you messed with us, you lose. you spit on that? tonight we have one of the seal

team heroes. he's going to remind us of what heroism is. he's going to remind us of the reality because he lived it. he took the shots, and they landed. and he knows who he took down no matter what trump has to say about it. retired navy seal rob o'neill is here. and, look, he's no biden supporter, and i don't care. i'm happy for him to support the president. my problem is why doesn't the president support him? i told him yesterday trumpery is not a joke. it is a word in the dictionary that means worthless nonsense. look it up. it derives from a word meaning to deceive. you cannot make it up. this is the truth. and the only remedy to this kind of deception is reality. let's get after it. we're going to talk pandemic and it's into and conflating with the politics of the moment.

you know the math better than i. you give us guidance on how to understand it. how big a problem is a lack of new and adaptive strategies to deal with the continuing spread of the virus? >> so, chris, thank you for having me on. we have two sets of problems. the federal government has largely given up. they have decided that this feels like there is nothing useful coming out of the white house at this point on the pandemic, and every state is on its own. and the problem is a lot of states are getting tired, and they're not implementing the kind of plans that they need to. so i am getting more and more worried that we are heading into a fall and winter without a national plan and without the level of sort of state result. now, some states are doing it. new york is right up there as a state that's very focussed. but too many states are letting their guard down. >> even if they're on their

game, okay, and again i'm happy to get the call from my brother after this, they've got problems in zip codes in new york. he does not have the data the cdc has. he does not have the pocket the federal government has to be throwing testing into different communities. it's up. i get it. but it's not always the right kind of testing. and there seems to have been no increase in our intelligence despite the months of additional experience. how should i understand that? >> look, no doubt about it. even the best states, and i do think governor cuomo and the state of new york right now is a model for how we should be doing this. but our country wasn't designed for 50 different pandemic responses. it was designed with a single federal response, with states being a central part of that. so i agree. like at the end of the day, states cannot do this alone. this is why we're at 215,000

deaths. if a federal government is going to be absent, let's help states do as good of a job as they can. >> axe, the operative theory has to be that the president believes this strategy is working for hip. look at the size of the rallies. look at the numbers of the states that matter. people are resonating with the idea that, yeah, f covid. look, he beat it. these lefties, these mushy heads in the media, they're afraid of all this stuff. live through it, baby. can that win him the election? >> no, i don't think so. i think he's responding to being in a big hole by digging deeper here, chris. and this is really a microcosm of what we have seen throughout this whole ordeal from the very beginning. he thinks that he can impose his version of events, his version of the truth, his version of fact on this virus, just as he has imposed his version of the truth and facts on every problem that he's encountered in his

life. but the fact is the virus is the virus. it is unimpressed by his effort to spin. and now people are paying a tremendous price for it. you know, it was striking to hear all these people as they have night after night say i'm not afraid. i don't care. god will take care of me. but they're not just speaking about themselves here. they are -- they become a threat to others who may not want to make that same decision and don't know that they're exposing themselves, that these people are exposing themselves to this virus. but, no, i think that he looks at those crowds and he does think they're a reflection of enthusiasm. but if you look at the data, he is digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole, and it seems like he is spiraling into a mad finale here that's going to end badly for him. sadly, it will end badly for many americans, too, who are impacted by this virus. >> where i live in new york, you

know, somebody has a sweet 16 party, 40 people get sick. now they're getting fined. but the confidence to do something like that will have some connection to the dialogue in this country. and then a study comes out that we're dying more and not just of covid. what do you make of this story? why are we dying more across the board? >> yeah. so two things, chris. i mean, first on the issue of that sweet 16 party that you mentioned, there is this sort of narrative settling in that if you have a gathering at your house, if you have a party at your house, if you know everybody that's coming to visit, it's safe. it's not. it's not. that's where we're seeing a lot of spread happening across america, is those house gatherings and parties. so people have to be far more fairf f careful than we've been. we're seeing more and more data that the covid deaths we have

counted is surely an underestimate, that there are a lot of people who died in the last six months who almost surely died of covid. the excess mortality we're seeing in our population is really striking and says that we have underestimated how bad this has been. >> this is the same b.s. we dealt with in puerto rico. i got to go right now. they were like, oh, only a handful of people died. yeah, until you start taking into consideration who couldn't get to the hospital, who couldn't get the medicine, whose medicine went bad, who couldn't go to dialysis. like those deaths don't count. we just never learn. but we're in an election. so the people get to decide what path is going to make sense. you're the best. thank you for being with me, fellas. barron trump, the president's youngest child, his son tested positive as well. now he is fine, they say. melania trump says she's encouraging everyone to live

their healthiest life. how can she even say that with what her husband is doing? i don't care about, oh, well, she has to do her own thing. if you can't get your husband to do what you are telling everybody else to do, why would they listen to you? now, is this really about her? no. it's about him. and i want to bring in his niece. not only is she a pedigreed psychologist, but she knows the guy, and she knows the people who made him. and i want her to help us understand how his head can arrive at where he has all of us right now. mary trump next. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.

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i told you at the top of the show president trump's youngest son 14-year-old barron trump also got coronavirus, we are told. the first lady wrote in an essay, luckily he's a strong teenager and exhibited no symptoms. one way i was glad the three of us went through this at the same

time so we could take care of each other and spend time together. he has since tested negative. thank god for the kid. that's got to be a relief to his mother. now let's be clear, though. the president wasn't with them. he was in the hospital getting experimental treatment and care that almost no one else can get. trump's wife goes on. i was very fortunate as my diagnosis came with minimal symptoms, though they hit me all at once and it seemed to be a roller coaster of symptoms after. it was an unfamiliar feeling for me to be the patient instead of a person trying to encourage our nation to stay healthy and safe. two things. one, god willing it says that way. a lot of people has cases like that and wind up getting symptoms. mrs. trump, keep an eye on yourself. keep a close contact with the doctor. stay in touch with them so you can somewhat track what's happening. there are aren't a lot of good

answers yet to make it better. the second problem is what she said doesn't add up. she wants to encourage other people to be healthy. start with your husband, okay? start at home with the be better. all right? these maskless displays, these super spreader events, that's how you god sick. that's how your kid got sick and that's how your husband is making other people sick. and if you are going to speak up, then you have got to speak out. and you should start with him. and there is no indication that that happens. he's holding these masked rallies, and you know it's wrong. so why does she say it? but more importantly why does he do it? i want to bring in someone personally where his mind takes him and his motivations. his niece, mary trump. just as much as the niece, she is a highly trained psychologist, and that's a nice combination to have in understanding everybody's

family. mary, it is good to have you once again. thanks, chris. it is great to be here. >> so the normal mind says, listen, if i want to lead these people, i can't be not telling them to do the right things and then having them do the wrong things just because i want to feel good about myself. he comes to a different conclusion, even after having covid because? >> first of all, we can't apply logic or rational thought to anything donald does. that's not going to get us any answers. secondly, when i learned that he was ill, i was worried that he would get a mild case and/or recover quickly, not because i thought he needed to be sicker but because i think it would

have been better if he hadn't gotten sick at all because this way, this worst case scenario would allow him to emerge triumphant against this virus because he's such a tough guy. and he would then go on to tell other people they don't need to be worry about it. they don't need to be afraid of it. interestingly, melania kind of echoed this in saying that luckily barron is a strong teenager. first of all, i am relieved that my cousin is okay. but let's be honest, he was put into a dangerous situation by his parents who have not been taking adequate precautions. and secondly, children are dying from this very deadly virus. so the only thing i can say really about how donald is handling this is in order for him to course correct when he realized that his initial way of

dealing with it wasn't working would have been to admit that he was wrong. so he needed to double down by seeing it wasn't that big a deal and it was just going to go away. and he see the results of that and it's pretty devastating. >> is it odd he didn't mention his son didn't have it. ordinarily parents worry more about their kids. it's not like he's been that private about his personal life. is there anything to that than you? >> yeah. unfortunately in my family and this started with my grandfather, illness of any kind, whether it was a physical ailment or an addiction, was seen as weakness. and being weak certainly in terms of, as my grandfather understood it, was unacceptable. so donald doesn't want to be associated with covid at all, even if it's somebody else having it. so there is no way that he would admit willingly that anybody in his family had it, and i

continue to believe if he had been asymptomatic we wouldn't know he had tested for it either. >> it was interesting how he said barron trump had the coronavirus. he didn't know what to call it. instead of "my son." i thought that was weird. you know, i gave it to my wife and my son, and i would have gladly put an ice pick through my eye to have spared them either of thiit. i'm the weak link in my family, but it changed me forever in terms of how i felt about myself in that moment, and i can't conceive of ever putting people at risk the way this president is doing so nonchalantly after what he learned from his own wife, that natural kind of shame reflection take hold and be like, i got to learn this. you know, i can't risk this after what just happened with me

and my own. >> because he doesn't have that reflection. he would deny it as long as he could and as you mentioned he was lucky enough to have at his disposal world class medical care and experimental drugs that are not available to practically anybody else on the planet. so, you know, the idea that he would shame or that he would learn from the experience is, you know, it's not going to happen. and that's why we continue to be in the situation we're in because partially for donald it's kind of a pow r plaer play. he's getting all of these people to show up to these rallies, these super spreader events, and that makes him feel powerful. it makes him feel invincible that he's out there on the stump again after having been ill.

and, you know, putting people at risk doesn't matter to him if -- i think you said this earlier, the crowds are still showing up because he thinks that's the metric that matters in terms of the election. as for the people who are showing up, you know, some of them maybe are just taking a risk because they're irresponsible. but, you know, a lot of these people -- >> they believe him. >> right. >> they believe it's okay because he's saying it's okay. they parrot his own words. we had a woman last night say, look, if he told me to wear the mask, i would. i don't know how he lives with that. if he was willing to do something that he knows is dangerous for these people's health, there is no way he believes that everybody will handle it the way he did, he knows better than that because he's on tape saying that people get sick and people die. so he knows. what does that tell us about

what he is willing to do in the second three weeks? >> i think that tells us everything we need to know. but i will add one caveat. covid-19 is a very tricky deadly disease about which we don't know that much still. so there is no way to know if he's over it, right? we don't know what the course of his illness may continue to be. but that aside, he'll do anything. if he feels that it will help him out in the election to continue putting people at risk, continue to downplay the virus, continue in person to get people infected, he is going to do that. and my advice would be for people to stay away from him whenever possible. don't listen to him. listen to your doctors. listen to actual epidemiological experts and, you know, just keep your heads down because it is going to get really, really bad

if things continue to trend as badly as they are for him right now. >> mary trump, thanks for the memories. appreciate your insight into what's going on. i mean, i honestly don't know what to say anymore. you know, i mean, i know where you come from. i know your family. we grew up around some of the same people. you've got a great reputation. it is just family is crazy enough until you have to then see it lived out on a national stage like this. so thank you for your insights. i'm sure there are other conversations you would rather have. >> thank you so much, chris. you too. >> i mean, seriously, what kind of mess are we in? and in terms of what they're willing to do, well, we know what he did to his niece, right, his own family. now we will turn to an estranged friend of the first lady. it is one thing you have a falling out between friends. okay? the friend is volunteering to help a friend, things get sideways. that happens.

but now trump is having the department of justice sue that friend. the author of melania trump tell-all, federal suit. why? because they say you were supposed to keep quiet and now that you didn't it's a national concern. she's planning to fight back. how? why? next.

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but despite the rising pain and anguish made worse during the pandemic, insurance companies still refused to cover mental health and addiction treatment.

until now. senator scott wiener went to work - taking them on. passing a law requiring the insurance industry to cover mental health and addiction treatment. now more than ever, californians need mental health coverage. i won't let up until the stigma of mental health and addiction is finally over. as the president puts on a show of strength, we have yet to see first lady mel yan yeah trump back in the public eye. we wish her well. it's been two weeks now since the two of them tested positive. and apparently their son barron trump as well. she put on an essay on her experience with covid and told us that her son, barron,

teenager, had it as well. somebody who used to know very well is stephanie winston wolcoff, former senior aid to the first lady, author of "melania and me." welcome back to "prime time". >> thank you for having me, chris. >> you're a parent. i'm a parent. i would expect to hear about your kids long before you no matter what was going on with you. that's how most of us work. how am i supposed to understand that i didn't hear anything about their son being sick until now? >> well, i'm -- you know, i'm glad that they're feeling better, obviously. i have to say, the way that you handled your experience and that you shared with all of us i think helped everyone understand how catastrophic this is, and it touches all lives. melania's first instinct is to always keep a distance and to

keep that steel wool barrier around her. i think this was an opportunity for her to show that empathetic side, to connect to the american people, to share her experience because no one has been able to connect in any way with her or donald, and this was a missed opportunity of our reality. so, again, as much as they have incredible health care, unlike the rest of us, you know, there is over 215,000 people dead because of this. and unfortunately they did not learn a thing from this. >> now, she says in this essay, hey, you know, i'm glad we could take care of one another. that's an important message right now. i'm not used to being the patient. i'm used to telling people you have to be healthy and take care of one another. how does she separate the power of that message and the need for it with the fact that her husband is a constant counter balance? why does she think that she has

the position to tell the people the right way to be when she can't get her husband to do it the right way. in fact, he is actively doing it the wrong way? >> because she doesn't do it the right way either. she can do a psa and wear a mask and tell you that everyone should wear a mask, but the next day she's visiting a school without a mask on. they're hypocritical. it doesn't make any sense. >> so the way she said in that tape, who cares about the christmas blank, you could fill in the blank with who cares about the covid blank? >> you know what, chris, i think it's a juxtaposition, right? we are supposed to look at the two of them and feel that melania is the softer side of donald. the reality is she's not. she's just like donald. and it is unfortunate because we are in the middle of a crisis where we do need the voice of a first lady to come out and to help, you know, children and women and, again, as mary was saying, mental health issues are of utmost importance.

the first lady can say a lot, but it is the actions that speak louder than words. and right now there are none except donald dancing in the middle of a crowd making a fool of himself and the rest of the country when people around him are dying. >> now, not to get ahead of the audience, you have to read stephanie's book and you will understand why she's on tv right now. i know stephanie. it is not somebody that is looked at as a disloyal friend, unless she's been thrown under the bus. and if you read the book, you'll understand that's exactly what put her in the position. you would never see her on tv talking about everybody else. i promise you that. now not only is it about who did who wrong, you have the department of justice saying that your decision to write the book betrayed secrecy in a way that creates a national interest for the department of justice to sue you. what do you make of that? >> look, the department of justice has turned into the

trump's own police force, unfortunately. i expected nothing less from them. i didn't expect for them to waste taxpayers' money coming after me in regards to my personal relationship with melania over 15 years. i think that they opened up pandora's box in reference to this contract, and so there is a lot still to be discovered. but it's just -- it's so unfortunate that this is, again, law and order -- again, according to donald trump, which is actually a racist term is something that he should not be doing right now. >> why aren't you concerned about legal exposure? you did sign documents when you decided to volunteer and help out and be an adviser. why do you feel that you didn't breach any contract? >> so here's the thing. when i worked starting november 8th for melania and the president's inauguration committee, i signed an nda for the committee. i didn't seen it with melania.

and in that time period, a lot of what is in the book is what's exposed. now, in addition to that, the things that i did talk about, i worked with the first amendment lawyer and a prepublishing lawyer very carefully to make sure that i wasn't breaking any of any confidentiality agreements, which ended, by the way, chris, when my contract was terminated when i was severed from the white house. so in addition to that, the lawsuit has so many claims in it that are false, that were recovered by the nda. so we'll see what happens. >> we'll be watching it. >> but i'm coming full speed ahead. >> i hear you, and as i promised from the beginning, when i start a story, i don't stop covering it until it's over. you will have opportunities here to discuss it every step along the way. you deserve that because certainly the trumps will have a big platform to make their own case. thank you so much. be well. >> thank you. >> all right. now, this is heavy, okay?

this is not joking around. this is not left and right. this is reasonable. this is all of us. okay? we know what bin laden meant to this country. we know how much pain there was, how much fear and how much hurt. and we know how hard it was to get him and how many men and women put their lives on the line and bled for that. imagine being a part of that raid, putting your life on the rain, seeing your brothers do the same and then seeing the president decides to circulate a conspiracy theory that you're b.s., that the raid was a hoax, it was a body double. retired navy seal rob o'neill, hero by any definition, is here. he knows the reality, and he knows that we know the reality. but i want to talk to him about what this means to him and the men who put their lives on the line and are right now for us and our freedom next. renew active. only from unitedhealthcare.

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the commander in chief is attacking the heroism of the men and women he leads. this garbage he decided to retweet is not me showing you. why? because the facts are not in doubt. osama bin laden was killed may 1st, 2011 by u.s. special forces in an early morning raid in pakistan. one person who shows firsthand is someone who was there, former navy seal rob o'neill. senior chief, welcome to "prime time." thank you for your service. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> please understand, sir, i do not have you here to question the events of that night or the planning that led up to it. but let the american people know the sacrifice that that mission should have gone sideways easy and almost did. what is the reality about what the men who protect us made sure happen that night?

>> well, the first thing i want to say is that every man that was on that mission to include the pilots are all alive. we all went in there. he all kissed our kids good-bye expecting death. right now to see these conspiracy theories thrown around due to politics, it is an insult to real people who -- because they bring in an event that part of our brothers that were shot down in august. but despite doing this stuff on the internet and making such light of something like this, you are turning the graves of some of the best heroes i have ever personally worked with. it is just a shame that we have gotten there because of politics. >> is it okay that you have >> is it okay you have to take one for the president to help him make the case that you really can't trust anything these days you can just trust me. even that seal team stuff with

bin laden who knows if that happened? >> the thing is he can go over to the cia any time where there is a file cabinet with a picture of bin laden's head and my hands are in the picture. we took a bunch of pictures of him not only in his own bedroom but also jalalabad the first place we stopped when we crossed the border and realized we were going to live and took him to bagram so the three letter agencies people smarter than me could do all the dna tests. that is what took so long to confirm it that night. president obama was waiting for the confirmation of how many people were left in the house. for people to say that we flew on the way back we realized the dna was wrong and flew him into the mountains or speaking of conspiracies my favorite is someone decided hillary clinton sent missiles through qatar to shoot us down and keep us quiet. if there was a conspiracy with a body double they'd have shut us down as we were flying out.

none of the guys that were killed were on the bin laden aid. just the way it spins politically and for twitter of all places, i mean, i personally like to use twitter for entertainment a lot. this is not the time for it. >> by the way, what you put out was funny. obama bin johnson, it was funny. and you get to joke about it. absolutely. you are a hero. you put yourself out there. you did something a lot of people thought would never get done especially the way they were hiding him. but the president knows the truth. this isn't about going over the cia. it is about a campaign where he wants people to feel confident that the only confidence they can have is in him and everything else they think they know they should doubt even if it means making you guys look bad. that is what he did, chief. left right, that's reasonable. >> you know, a lot of people reached out to me today and said i hope you're doing okay.

i said this is actually comical because if you have the truth you're going to be fine. i never lied about this mission once. i started getting texts from the guys on the bin laden mission going holy crap i didn't know we were dead. what did you do in there? i talked to a number of guys that were on the ground that night. with turning this political, this is a mission brought up before by the president that there are other people more important than bin laden. 95% of the people couldn't pick out, of our people couldn't pick them out of a lineup. show anyone in the world a picture of osama bin laden and they know who he is. if any time to release the photos, it's now. >> the truth isn't in dispute. you're no biden fan. you believe this president has done good things and that is your right. i'd never keep you off the show because of any political thing you have. you are always you're welcome here because you are a hero but do you want the president to

know this is not something to play with, leave you guys and the deeds you do for this country and its democracy out of the politics? >> i appreciate you saying that. thank you. i'll come back any time. it is one thing for alacko to be a conspiracy theorist but to be retweeted by the highest ranking person in the country. again, maybe i'm a biden fan maybe i'm a trump fan but i tell everyone i am an american. this is a worldwide thing. we had people we lost in the twin towers alone from more than 80 countries. we had people on flight 93, the first americans to fight al qaeda and they took a vote and there are a lot more american than just our ideology here. >> chief rob o'neill, the president often watches and he is almost always told about what is on the show. i hope he hears and knows some things have to be kept clean and

what you guys do for us in keeping us free and going after people who want to take our freedom has to be appreciated and it is certainly appreciated here and always will be. sir, thank you for your service. >> thank you for having me. appreciate it. >> god bless and be well. all right. nothing sacred. when nothing is sacred, things get scary fast. okay? a trump doj investigation just yielded nothing. okay. that's good, right? no. it's bad. why? because what they were investigating was set up on a false premise that you heard this president and his attorney general say over and over as if it were true and that they were going to root it out. well, aren't you owed an explanation now that the investigation came out the opposite way? you are. and i'll give it to you, next.

when "the washington post" reports that bill barr's big investigation into the unmasking of michael flynn turned up nothing, it matters. why? because of how we got here. this president sold hard that obamagate was going to shake you

to the core. >> well, the unmasking is a massive thing. >> you see that the obama administration and perhaps longer than that was doing all of this unmasking. >> the unmasking and the spying. and to me that's the big story right now. >> of course it's the big story. >> a very, very big story. >> of course it's the big story because it's not abouton it's about you making everybody else look as bad as you are and plenty of republic-can'ts are ready to invest in the same. >> the unmasking of american citizens. i am concerned about that. >> there is additional unmasking and that is of most concern to me. >> what the committee should be concerned about is the unmasking that took place at the end of the obama administration. >> yeah, yeah. now what? the lap dogs at state tv also willingly devoted hours to it. this president threw the full

weight of the department of justice into a search for anything that proves the obama administration was out to get him. do you know how easy it is to find something? this unmasking probe is just the latest, barr's much hyped durham report doesn't have anything they plan on sharing before the election. i wonder why? i don't wonder at all. nothing unlawful. that is the truth. with andrew mccabe and others. why don't they tell you? because they don't like the truth. i like the fact that you give me a chance to tell you every night. thank you. god bless you and your families. now it's time for the big show. cnn tonight with d. lemon right now. >> the unmasking. can you believe it's a scandal, unmasking? >> yes i do believe there was spying. >> the deep state. there was spying. >> remember they said to me spying. they don't like the word. no, spying. yeah. spying. where's