those concerns especially high in michigan. remember, the plot to kill the state's governor gretchen whitmer. thanks for joining us here today. if you are up early on sunday morning, we will be up at 8:00 a.m. eastern as well. have a good day. >> hi there. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. the virus is now winning. that is a blunt warning from the governor of new mexico where new cases of covid-19 have surged 50% from a week ago. new mexico is one of 32 states showing an upward trend in infections. just three are on the decline while 15 are holding steady. the u.s. topped 60,000 new cases in a single day. this is actually the first time that's happened since mid-august. nine states are reporting their highest single day of new infections, while seven posted record hospitalizations.

nationwide there were just other 37,000 hospitalizations. and when it comes to shortening those hospital stays or preventing deaths from the virus, the only drug given emergency use authorization for treating covid-19 is now showing disappointing signs. according to a new study from the world health organization, remdesivir did not help patients live longer or get out of the hospital sooner. despite all of this, president trump continues to paint a rosy outlook for the nation while he is spreading misinformation about the use of masks. >> as far as the mask is concerned, i'm good with masks. i tell people to wear masks. but just the other day they came out with a statement that 85% of the people that wear masks catch it. >> they didn't say that. i know that study. >> that's what i heard and that's what i say. what we have done has been amazing, and we have done an amazing job, and it's rounding the corner, and we have the

vaccines coming and we have the therapies coming. >> doctor is joining us now to discuss this, a primary care physician who specializes in public health. dr. matthew, these are words coming from the president that matter, especially in the middle of a pandemic. yet, he continues to downplay the threat while the numbers point to a difficult winter. can you get a sense of how you are seeing the months ahead of us here? >> we are not where we need to be. in fact, i am disappointed that we are talking about how the cases are rising. listen, what happens is the cases can go in this type of a fashion and then all of a sudden in a week it can go up linearly. and we're seeing already 60,000 cases. this is the cold and flu season. and next what happens is hospitalizations. we're already seeing hospitalization rates go up in a lot of cities and states where it's really cold. in georgia, for example, which is not considered to really be a state that that's cold when it

comes to temperatures, we're at 89% already of hospital capacity. and after hospitalizations, unfortunately, follows deaths. so we are not doing well at all. in fact, we're doing much worse. >> the former governor of new jersey, chris cristie, who is a close ally of the president's is now out of intensive care after he contracted the coronavirus apparently in connection to either his participation in debate prep or his attendance at that white house ceremony that honored amy coney barrett. let's listen to what christy said happened afterward. >> well, i know that there was no contact tracing done with me, george. my contact tracing was done by my local county board of health. they called me while i was in the hospital to contact trace and make sure they had all that information. >> i mean, what happens if you just don't contact trace a super spreader event? can you explain why this is so

essential? >> we have been talking about contact tracing for such a long time, eight, nine months in the united states. contact tracing is key because that's the only way that you can backtrack from the time that somebody develops symptoms or tested positive and contact everybody or at least as many people as you can that they have been in contact with. and so to give you an example with that rose garden party that happened in the white house, that was an ideal opportunity to show how effective contact tracing can be because the white house has the capabilities. they have the money to do it and they have the convenience to have done it correctly. so it's disappointing that mr. christy did not get a call from the white house. if you skip a family, member, one person can infect three people, and each one of those people can infect 60,000 people in a matter of weeks. so you can imagine how exponentially this can get out of hand. >> it's huge.

great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. the white house has refused to answer questions about when the president last tested negative for coronavirus before he tested positive. at issue is did he actually get tested before that first presidential debate? at last night's presidential town hall, here is what he claimed. >> before the debate, which i thought it was a very good debate and i felt fantastically. i had no problems before. >> did you test the day of the debate? >> i don't know. i don't even remember. >> did you take a test on the day of the debate i guess is the bottom line. >> probably did. >> you don't know if you took a test the day of the debate? >> probabossible i did. possibly i didn't. >> the president has claimed he has one of the greatest memories of all time. perhaps you recall that. and his doctors would know when he tested. they would know if he was tested leading up to the debate. >> did you take a test, though, on the day of the debate. >> if you ask the doctor,

they'll give you a perfect answer. >> only if you think the perfect answer is not an answer because reporters have pressed the doctors. they have pressed the president's physician on this, and his answer was far from perfect. >> do you remember when he had his last negative test? >> i don't want to go backwards. >> when was his last negative test and what was his viral load? >> everyone wants that. >> again, hippa precludes me from going into too much depth. >> he won't say. as for next week's debate, joe biden says he will demand that president trump take a covid test and receive negative results before he will share a stage with the president. with me now is david chalian. let's talk about these town halls, david. it was full. it was full of disinformation that nbc's savannah guthrie had

to repeatedly interrupt. >> well, there is no doubt about that. it was disinformation about coronavirus, of course, saying we have rounded the corner. you just went through the numbers, brianna. that clearly is not the case. but also this sort of touting the qanon conspiracy theory that the president did where he said that he understood that they like to fight pedophilia but that he really doesn't know what it's about. well, that doesn't really make sense either. he went on to say, you see there, that he did indeed owe money to somebody the way that "the new york times" reported it after digging into his tax returns. and he also, when pressed on health care, offered again no plan to replace obamacare. though, he has promised that for four years now as a presidential candidate and as president. he has not offered a specific plan, and he didn't last night either. >> okay. let's talk now about the other town hall.

vice president biden's town hall. it was a lot different. it was a mellower scene over there on abc, but he still got some tough questions. how were his answers, though? >> he did. it was a totally different universe. you are absolutely right about that. on vaccines, he had suggested making vaccines mandatory, that he would look at a way for a national standard on that if that was possible. he did make some news and say that he was going to answer the question he's been dodging for weeks now about whether or not he supports the idea of court packing on the supreme court, changing the number of seats from 9 to a greater number to add more presumably democratic-friendly justices to the court. he now says he's going to answer that question before the election because voters deserve to hear an answer. though i will note, we have already had between 10% and 15% of the overall expected elect electorate cast their ballots. he said he's going to answer that question he's been dodging.

he talked about scenarios of what it would mean for the country if indeed he lost the election. and he was pressed on his authorship of the 1994 crime bill, criminal justice, race in america. he was pressed on some of those topics in a way that he had to grapple with the audience before him. but you're right, it was much more substantive, policy focussed and the former vice president stayed long after the town hall was off the air on abc to take every participant's question there in the audience. >> very interesting. there is a big question as the u.s. is getting deeper into this crisis. where is the white house coronavirus task force? we're going to take a look at that. plus, disturbing new reporting that the president was warned. rudy gull ydy giuliani was beind by russian agents. alexander vindman flagging the phone call that ultimately led

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we're still very much in the middle of a pandemic, so where is the white house coronavirus task force? gone are the briefings. despite nearly 220,000 people in this country losing their lives, despite the fall wave surging in the country right now when the first one never really subsided. when the president is delivering disinformation and lies about the virus, the president, the boss of those on the task force. and it is not just briefings that have gone away. behind the scenes, dr. fauci says they're hardly meeting at all. >> we were meeting, you know, some time seven days a week. then it won't down to five. we're down to about, i would say, a consistent one day a

week. >> this makes no sense that they have basically disappeared from the conversation because more than 800 americans died yesterday alone, and the u.s. just topped 60,000 cases in a single day for the first time since august. and when it comes to the individual members of the task force, they have either disappeared from public view or they have been sidelined from the white house. you will remember looking at this picture from march that vice president pence used to lead some of the briefings. so where is he? while defending the trump administration's response during the vp debate, he took shots at the obama administration's handling of the swine flu which killed 12,000 americans. but he dodged questions about how 20 times the people have died on his watch. dr. birx is on the road talking to some local media outlets, but she hasn't been in the briefing room since july. cnn reported last month that she

was frustrated with her role, that she was distressed with the direction of the task force. then robert redfield, his agency now marched by political intervention from the white house, from the president. and we haven't seen much of him since this. >> we have clear scientific evidence they work and they are our best defense. i might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take the covid vaccine. >> now, the president hours later, because that did not fit with his narrative, would say that redfield was wrong in that assessment. jerome adams, the surgeon general rarely gives briefings. last we heard from him was during a trip to hawaii when he took pictures at a park that had been closed. alex azar, the secretary of health and human services, we

saw him at that apparent super spreader event at the white house not wearing a mask. and the fda commissioner also rarely gives briefings, the president has accused his agency of playing politics by rebuking trump's push for a rush on vaccines. of course there is dr. anthony fauci targeted by both the president and his campaign even as they use his words to indicate that fauci thinks the president's coronavirus response has been good. >> i think it's really unfortunate and really disappointing they did that. it is so clear that i'm not a political person and i have never either directly or indirectly endorsed a political candidate. and to take it completely out of context statement and put it in, which is obviously a political campaign ad i thought was really very disappointing. >> now, fauci also said the white house determines which media outlets he is allowed to talk to. they are limiting his profile as he tries to warn people of a

deadly virus about which information is constantly changing as doctors learn more about it. not pictured in that march photo, ben carson, the hudd secretary, also a doctor. he has rarely made public comments about the virus. the ones who are out in public often include larry kudlow who has said things like this over the course of the pandemic. >> we have contained this. we have contained this. i won't say airtight, but pretty close to airtight. there is no second wave coming. it's just, you know, hot spots. they send in cdc teams. we've got the testing procedures. we've got the diagnostics. we've got the ppe, so i really think it's a pretty good situation. >> no, lawrence, it's not a pretty good situation, and it wasn't back in june when he said that. the president's disinformation squad also has a remember with a white coat, dr. scott atlas, a

radiologist, not an epidemiologist who has pushed herd immunity in the past, despite denying so. >> it's not just a lie. it's an overt lie. it is a disgusting lie. >> you will develop like a herd mentality. you look at scott atlas. you look at some of the other doctors from stanford. look at some of the other doctors. they think maybe we could have done that from the beginning. >> the white house coronavirus task force is missing in action. the white house clearly thinks that if they weren't out there talking about the virus maybe it will look like the virus isn't so much of a thing anymore. but while they can hide these officials from the media spotlight, they can't hide bodies. people are dying. this is far from over and americans need information that they can trust from their government. just in, there are ratings for last night's town halls with the president and joe biden. plus, my exclusive interview with alexander vindman's wife

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just in, the ratings from last night's dueling town halls,

who did most persons tune in to watch? was it president trump or former vice president joe biden? here with the numbers is the anchor of "reliable sources." okay. we knew this was shaping up to be a ratings battle. so the winner is who? >> yeah. these numbers are just in from the neilsen company. they are surprised. everybody in tv business assumed donald trump would win. but, in fact, the biden town hall just on one channel, abc, averaged about 14 million viewers last night. the trump town hall was on three different channels. so we'll break down the numbers on the screen there. trump on nbc had 10.6 million viewers. he was also on msnbc, add a couple million viewers to that. and he was on cnbc. so he was on three different channels. but all combined, trump totalled 13 million viewers across those three different channels. notely biden prevailing in this

head to head ratings matchup, a matchup that trump seemed to want, right? because there was this expectation that today trump will be able to brag about being the ratings champion, beating biden when in fact it is the biden campaign that came out ahead. >> that is fascinating. all right. brian, thank you so much for that. in july of 2018, an army lieutenant kernel stationed at the white house was listening to a phone call with ukraine. that army officer is alexander vindman who has a purple heart, a ranger tab and that post on the president's national security council. vindman flagged trump's phone call to a white house lawyer. and to hear his wife tell the story, vindman believed that flagging the phone call would lead to a course correction in

the president's interactions with ukraine. i sat down with rachel vindman, retired lieutenant colonel's wife for her first interview of what her and her husband have been through. and we began with a night in september of 2018 which was, it appeared, a regular night in the vindman household. >> take us back to the moment that you realized your husband was embroiled in something very big. >> i had been reading and he got in bed and he was like, so, there is a whistleblower complaint that's gone to congress. and i was like, oh, yeah, i think i heard something about it but i haven't had a chance to read about it. and he said, well it was about a phone call to president zelinsky. i said, you heard the phone

call. was it okay? he stopped there and dropped off and asked me to check on his personal liability insurance the next day. then he promptly fell asleep. and i stayed awake all night. >> did you have a real sense of how big this could be? >> no, not a real sense of how big it would be. no, i don't think anyone did. well, maybe some people, but not me. you know, i didn't have the ability to put it in context. the following week there was more information that came out. the more the president talked about it, the more i thought there was probably something to it. and then when the whistleblower complaint was made public. so i guess my concern was that even if he wasn't involved that he would somehow be a fall guy or something. you know, i just was concerned about him being any part of it. >> because what's clear at this point is that the whistleblower complaint is about a phone call. >> right. >> that your husband was

listening to. >> absolutely. >> were you nervous reading the complaint? >> yeah, absolutely. >> were you nervous? >> maybe a little. but doesn't really get nervous or ruffled. i know he was ready to e so it and to read it with the rest of america, but if i would say there is one moment in all of this it was maybe reading that complaint that -- you know, i could tell he was serious. he's not someone who takes things seriously that don't deserve to be taken seriously, and i felt that. >> the most damning testimony in the impeachment inquiry is expected to happen today. an active duty military officer currently working inside the white house. his name is lieutenant kecolone alexander vindman. >> was there a question whether he would comply with the subpoena? >> never. he would answer that subpoena. >> you helped him write his personal statement. what was the objective to you in

that statement that really introduced him to the country? >> i wanted to talk about his service, about what brought him here. i'm not sure why we talked about, you know, that he was sitting there as an immigrant. i knew probably on his own he would never introduce himself. we literally went word for word and considered every word that he would say and even still i don't think we anticipated the impact that it would have. there were a few things that people didn't realize. he heard the phone call. but he was the first person to testify who had heard the phone call, and that was something that a lot of people latched on to, that we underestimated the impact that that would have. and i also think the personal story was compelling, that he was an immigrant, that he had an interesting context for it. >> and that he was in the military. >> yeah. >> and that he was a decorated

military officer. >> yes. we had friends who deployed many, many times, bronze stars, purple hearts, silver stars. these are pretty regular in our crowd in our friends and peers. so everyone was talking about it. but, again, to us it's not so remarkable. >> it's regular to you. >> uh-huh. >> but it affords your husband some protection. >> yeah, absolutely. >> as his patriotism might be questioned. >> right, right. i don't think we ever anticipated his patriotism would be questioned. it was, you know -- actually, i never expected that. it was the most gut wrenching feeling. i never expected it. so it was just a sucker punch to see someone accuse him of being a traitor. >> ukrainian officials sought advice from him about how to

deal with mr. giuliani. though, they typically communicated in english. now wait a second. here we have a u.s. national security official who is advising ukraine while working inside the white house apparently against the president's interests and usually they spoke in english. isn't that kind of an interesting angle on this story? >> i find that astounding. and, you know, some people might call that espionage. >> later some apologized but not to the audience i thought he should apologize to. it was just incredibly hurtful. there were other moments later, but that one i guess the first always kind of hurts the most, and, you know, our family has made tremendous sacrifices so alex could serve. and i would do it again because, you know, we're -- i'm very

proud to be a military spouse. and i'm proud that he wants to serve his country, the country that gave him, you know, freedom from authoritarianism. it didn't come without personal sacrifice for both of us. so to see that questioned, i never expected it. and it was tremendously hurtful. >> we were all standing up watching him. it was just hard to sit down. i was just so proud, so, so proud. impossible to say. my friends who are lovely, you know, kept telling me they were proud of me, but i couldn't imagine being more proud of who he was. i was proud because we knew what had been said about him. we knew the accusations. we knew the price, that there was going to be a price if we didn't even know it was going to be paid. we didn't know what it was going to be, but it didn't matter because it was just about doing. >> you said that the military

can deal with vindman any way they want. >> he is over with the military. >> do you think he needs to face discipline? >> that will be up to the military. we'll see. >> the most powerful man in the world is, you know, a very vailed like we'll see about your spouse and, you know, your life, it's -- it -- it's really intimidating. >> what did that signal to you when you heard the president say that? >> that he was scared. >> that the president was scared? >> yes, that he was scared of how this -- not only the entire impeachment hearing but that he would do anything to discredit alex whatever it took. because alex had heard the phone call, he was the main person to discredit. we received some not so nice things in the mail. we could see things online of people supporting him, and it -- it -- it buoyed us. >> as a family, you will forever be defined by this.

how has that been? >> i think we're still processing that. i don't think that that's something that we're going to be able to put into context for a very long time. what i'm most concerned about is our daughter, who is nine and a half. she knows that her father did a good thing by telling the truth and, you know, we're pretty honest with her about that. she also is not immune to knowing there are people who don't like him. she does understand, but of course on a nine and a half year-old level. hopefully in time she'll see the whole thing. >> next, what the future holds both for her family and for the country if president trump is re-elected. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. emptiness. a hopeless struggle. the lows of bipolar depression can disrupt your life and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce

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retired lieutenant colonel alexander vindman in 2018 after almost two decades as an army officer, he had been hand selected for a prestigious and demanding bill at the white house, handling the ukraine portfolio on the president's foreign policy apparatus at the national security council. that assignment would end his decorated military career.

when the atlantic published the story that the president had called service membered killed in war, quote, suckers and losers and wondered aloud, quote, what's in it for them when he pondered military service, the vindman's read it. president trump has denied the story, but rachel vindman who had watched all sand der's military career derailed by a president who claims to love the military says she has no doubt it is true. >> i felt sorry for him, but he can't understand the beauty of service to others, of serving something more than himself. it is the privilege of my lifetime to be married to a military service member. i will always be proud to be an american, and i will always be proud to have been able to serve beside him. obviously, we have friends who -- whose husbands have made

the ultimate sacrifice and to not understand why someone would do that, i feel sorry for him that he can't understand that. >> how do you see president trump's role in what happened to your husband and your family? >> he just continually put alex's name out there. he seemed to be a little bit obsessed with it. he would, you know, continually remark on vindman. and i think by constantly saying his name, by telegraphing it to his supporters, that he put -- he continued to put us in danger by continuing to say our name. i think he also, you know, ended alex's military career by, whether he directly asked that alex not be promoted, that's probably not the case, but his enablers and the people around him knew that he would never find it acceptable if alex were permitted to be promoted and

have a normal career. so with or without the president asking for it, they decided to deliver it to him, which is something exactly that happens in an authoritarian government. we are choosing to be a country that celebrates white nationalists, that we are a country that celebrates division and is okay with it. and i don't think that's who the united states is. i don't think that's what the people want. and i think we're seeing that. four more years is, you know, kind of full authoritarianism, i think that's what we're going to see, not authoritarianism-like. i think it is people giving up their rights. i'm not sure why, but giving up their rights and freedoms. >> you guys have had hard times. you had a child who did not survive passed a week. and i was wondering if you would talk a little bit about that. >> my daughter was born at th24

weeks. a week later she passed away and we hadn't been able to hold her because she was such a micro pree mee. alex held her because i had carried her, so he held her as she took her last breaths and then alex after that, the huge burden, alex had to carry me for two years until i could be a normal person again. that was the hardest thing any couple will go through, to lose a child. that's why through all this i know who he is because i know what he's been through and what has made him who he is. during this time also, i lost both my parents in a very short time after losing our daughter sara. and he would never stop what he was doing to be with me to help me. i like, i guess that's normal.

but he's always my partner and my cheerleader, and i knew that whatever we went through with this wouldn't hold a candle to that -- those tough times. and i also always knew that he would do the right thing. that's, you know, something that we also want in our leaders. you know, leadership with values. >> there is one call no military spouse ever wants to get. for me that call came in october 2004 when i heard a voice telling me alex had been injured by a roadside bomb. >> the last time you saw me was here. dad, do not worry. i will be fine for telling the truth. >> the first time i threat threatened was just after alex's testimony. >> i'm not going to focus or comment on a former junior employee. >> well, i'm not happy with him. >> the most powerful man in the

world came after our family. but what happened to us can happen to anyone. we received thousands of letters of support. america is so much better than donald trump. but he can cause this nation so much more with four more years. >> this is america. this is the country i have served and defended. here right matters. >> i'm sure a lot of people are wondering why i am speaking out now and why i have suppochosen a visible role. he's not excited about it. but to me if i voice, even if it's a small voice, i think everyone should do their part for the selection, and this feels like something i can do. and that's why. i know it's opening myself up to exposure, probably to criticism, but that's okay because we're going to be okay. but as a country, i think everyone owes it in these last three weeks to do everything

they can to make sure their voice is heard. i don't even care if you are on the other side. just don't be come place sent. i mean, get out there and make it all matter and make it count. i mean, this is a democracy, and we have such a privilege. so many people in the world, they either can't vote or they vote and their voice -- their votes never count, but we have that privilege here. and i think everyone should get out and use whatever voice they have and make it matter. >> i'm not worried about the future because alex's father came here in his 40s. he didn't speak english. he had $450 and three little boys and a mother-in-law who didn't like him very much, and he learned english and was able to get a job and, you know, provide for his family. and that's still the united states that i live in. that opportunity still exists. and i'm not worried about our future because i know no matter what we'll make it work.

>> retired lieutenant colonel vindman is currently pursuing a doctorate degree as they are adjusting to their new life outside the military. next breaking news. u.s. officials are investigating whether e-mails surfacing are tied to a russian misinformation campaign against the bidens, and this involved rudy giuliani. plus, singer christopher cross said covid paralyzed him. and why a qanon supporter reveals why he stopped believing. look, this isn't my first rodeo

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i am brianna keilar. the u.s. has now surpassed 8 million cases of the coronavirus. more than 60,000 new cases in a single day, as multiple states post record highs for single-day infections. with almost two thirds of the country reporting double-digit increases, dr. fauci says americans still have a chance to bring things under control. >> you can't enter into the cool months of the fall and the cold months of the winter with a high community infection baseline and looking at the map and seeing the heat map, how it lights up with test positivity that is in more than 30-plus states is going in the wrong direction. it's still not too late to vigorously apply good public

health measures, and again, i emphasize, without necessarily shutting down the country. let's listen in now to president trump. [ chanting ] >> thank you very much. please, we're going to be talking to our great senior citizens, that's what i'm here for today. we love our senior citizens. i'm honored to be here in ft. myers to reaffirm my solid pledge to american seniors. it's so important to me. i happen to be a senior. i will protect you. i will defend you, and i will fight for you with every ounce of energy and conviction that i have. you devoted your life to this country, and i am devoting my life to you. my administration is working every day to give our amazing senior citizens the care,

support and respect that you deserve, and you understand that. we've worked together for a long time. as president, i'm deeply aware that america's 54 million seniors have borne the heaviest burden of the china virus. many older americans have endured months of isolation, missing weddings, births, church, family reunions, you know it all too well. my heart breaks for every grieving family that's lost a precious loved one. i feel their anguish and i mourn their loss, i feel their pain. i know the terrible pain they have gone through when you lose someone, and it's nothing to describe what you have to bear. there's nothing to describe it. in times of challenge, we turn to our fellow americans for a shoulder to lean on, and we turn to god forea