social media again takes center stage as americans head to the polls. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. in 2016, many cried foul when social media was accused of moving too slowly to allow the campaign spread of misinformation. and now it's four years later and platforms are being criticized for moving too swiftly. republicans are loudly protesting after facebook and twitter limited or blocked the distribution of an unsubstantiated new york post article about joe biden.

cnn has not determined the authenticity of the emails and investigation by senate republicans and it in september without uncovering any evidence that joe biden abused his powers or changed u.s. policy because of his son's business ties with ukrainian energy company burisma. >> nobody in the fbi or anybody has issued public statements about whether or not this is linked to a disinformation campaign. we don't know if the emails centered the story are authentic or fake. within three hours of the new york post publishing wednesday facebook said it would slow its distribution so it would appear less frequently in users' newsfeeds and twitter went further to block those. among those block said white house secretary kayleigh mcenany after she posted the story. by wednesday night, jack dorsey criticized his own company's

decision. and on thursday, the new york post article would allow similar information to be shared alongside a label to provide context. that same day, the chair of the federal communications commission got into the act. he said he would soon clarify the law. here were his words, social med mediaia companies have a right to free speech but they do not have a right to a special immunity denied to other media outlets such as newspapers or broadcasters. second 230 of the communications decency act, 26 words that provided internet platforms with a liability shield that enabled the internet to thrive. here are those 26 words. no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another

information content provider. meanwhi meanwhile, president trump is calling facebook and twitter a monster and threatening to go after them, repeal section 230. here's what he said on thursday. >> and a big tech persists with coordination with the mainstream media, we must immediately strip them of their section 230 protection. okay. it's very simple. and we all believe in freedom of the press, but don't forget, big tech got something years ago that let them become big tech. they got total protection. we're going to take away their second 230 unless they shape up. >> in my view, this controversy raises issues that transcend the current election. and for the president, maybe this is a case of be careful what you wish for. this suggests that trump's issue with facebook and twitter is their alleged censorship. but if his dream of a world without 230 actually came true, it might have far greater

degrees of content restriction, focused on content that might subject platforms to legal liability. and i can think of one figure hoom those platforms might immediately consider restricting in a world without 230 as a liability shield. with 17 days to go before the final day of voting circle october 28 on your calendar. on that day, the heads of facebook, twitter and google are all scheduled to testify before the senate commerce committee. this hour, i want to know what you think. go to my website at smerconish.com and answer this week's survey question. should facebook and twitter be shielded from liability for the way they police their platforms? so, how might this impact the final days of the campaign? joining me now to discuss is scott gallogalloway. he's a professor of marketing at the nyu stern school of business. professor galloway, why now? >> good to be with you, michael.

simply put, the polls showing a biden/harris administration is becoming more and more likely. it looks as if there's going to be a new sheriff in town. and today, we've had somewhat of an unholy alliance between the administration and these platforms that if you continue to let us weaponize these platforms to spread misinformation we will regulate or break you up. and there is a justified fear among big tech that alliance is about to break apart. so they seem to be finding religion around assuring that their platforms aren't weaponized to the staple extent they've been weaponized in the past. >> you know silicon valley so well, does silicon valley lean red, or blue? >> no, it leans green. deciding we don't want to be ash sist arbiters of the truth.

it send its to be conspiracy theories that are nor novel, if you will, more exciting or inflammatory. and when they get spread, any engagement, regardless of the damage it does, results in engagement which results in more clicks. which results in more nissan ads which results in more shareholder values. these algorithms that aren't biased towards any political leaning, they're biased against clicks. and especially when it's especially false or especially provocative. >> you heard my opening commentary where i'm wondering aloud if conservatives have it backward. the 230 is actually their best friend. what does a post-230 world look like, relative to the content on the internet? >> yeah, you're exactly right. the trump administration sort of has it half right. and that is these companies should be subject to the same scrutiny as cnn or "the new york

times" or msnbc. the question is if they just remove 230 or don't update it or replace it, it's likely that the removal of that shield will make these platforms much more skittish and have absolutely no idea how to respond to some of the content that the president puts out as some people could interpret as motivating or insigciting violence. and could take as a count down. so this feels like a punishment that he's trying to levy that he doesn't understand. it would likely heard turt the right than the far left if 230 were to go away. >> take it from me, my personal experience is when i meet people in the real town square, they're pleasant, even if they're disagreeing with me. but via facebook, twitter, it's an awfully nasty world.

they get beer muscles because you don't really know who they are. if 230 goes away and takes on more of a regulatory notion, won't they want to know who the speakers are? >> actually, they don't. if twitter would have a blue check on the accounts like they have on you and i accounts, they would be decrease by 50% to 80%. you're right, anonymity is a huge problem here. i would argue, if we went on your and my twitter feeds we would find accounts that are trying to create arguments and purposely trying to undermine, for example, if we say something critical about russia, that we can reverse engineer to an individual. we're in an age that interpretation of a message is dependent upon who is communicating that message. and on these platforms, you really don't know. so, when you get hundreds of

messages about anti-vacs, and ho and who is behind it could be a problem. >> final question, i'm at home, watching cnn and i'm hearing questions about the impact on the campaign. but beyond the campaign, what does it mean to me as an internet user? >> well, you deserve better, if you're willing to stand eight hours in line to vote then the platforms that have tens of billions of cash flow should hold themselves to higher standards. whereas, if somebody is paying for an ad that's going to compress your vote or confuse you about poll times, they have an obligation to employ a fraction of resources and scrutiny to make sure the content you're receiving is legitimate content. and that freedom of speech is not freedom of reach. that there's a conversation

around these issues that's warranted when it gets more oxygen because it's incendiary, we have a problem. these platforms are tearing at our society. as a voter, a citizen, a parent, bottom line, you deserve better. and it looks like there's going to be a new sheriff in town. we'll see, there's likely going to be overdue changes. the reckoning is overdue. >> i'm surprised to see you saying if i'm reading you correctly that they have the ability to monitor the speech. to me, it's a fire hose of information. a quick response. >> be clear, we're not talking about the realm of possible. facebook and twitter can figure it out with billions of cash flow. they can absolutely solve this problem. they throw their arms up and claim it's impossible. that is a lie. >> professor galloway, thank you as always. >> thank you. >> what are your thoughts? tweet me at smerconish. go to my facebook page.

i'll read responses. what do we have? i'm not a trump fan at all but when twitter locked out the white house press secretary for posting a published story that was censorship, plain and simple. joe abrams, i don't want to be recompetitive, i think what conservatives wish more might not actually be the panacea that they envision. it stands to reason, if you get rid of 230, if you get rid of 230, what they're saying, they open themselves up to liability. think about it logically. if you start treating the platforms not like a phone line. we don't hold sprint or at&t responsible for the speech that crosses their line, instead, right, we think of them as a newspaper going forward. then there's editorial control that they'll need to scriexhibid perhaps even more speech. make sure you're answering this week's survey question, should facebook and twitter be shielded

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is america in a crisis of ageing leadership? we ground airline pilots at age 65, but our leaders piloting the country are one, even two decades older. we have minimum age requirements for our representatives. you've got to be 25 to run for congress. 30 to run for the senate. 35 to be president. but from then on, the sky's the limit. whoever wins on the final day of voting, america will have its oldest president at inauguration ever. donald trump will be 74. joe biden, 78. our oldest previous president was ronald reagan who when he left office was 77. and some thought had cognitive

issues. this year, several of biden's top rivals would also have been the oldest presidents at inauguration. bernie sanders just turned 79. mike bloomberg, 78. elizabeth warren, a relatively youthful 71. and it's not just the executive branch. the age age in congress is near an all-time high. when the 116th congress took office in january 2019. the average is 57.6 years. of senators, 62.9 years. now we can add 21 months to those figures the oldest serving congressman, alaska's don young is 87 years old. trying for a 25th term. look at the house leadership, speaker pelosi, 81. majority leader hoyer, 81, jim clyburn, 80.

chair of services maxime water, 82. rare of the judiciary jerry nadler, 73, outgoing chair of foreign affairs, elliott angle who lust, 73. and richard neal only 71. on the senate side, 28. 28 of the 100 senators over 70. majority leader mitch mcconnell running in the polls, 78. president pro tem joe grassley, 87. as is dianne feinstein. richard shelby, 86. armed services committee share, jim imhoff, 85. chair of nutrition and forestry, pat roberts, 84. departing chair of health education labor and pensions lamar alexander is 80. as is ranking committee member

patrick leahy. i could go on and on, but i think you get the picture. it's an unique phenomenon. the typical eu leader has actually gotten younger. think of france's emmanuel macron only 42. austria's sebastian kerrs, 34. canadian prime minister justin trudeau, 48. north korea's leader kim jong-un believed to be 36. and new zealand's prime minister jacinda ardern who just won an election in a landslide, 40. most countries have only minimum age requirements on the books from as young as 18 and as old as 45. as adam taylor has pointed you out in "the washington post" the few limits there can be strategically ignorechina's xi

jinping now 67, widely expected to flout beijing's retirement age to continue for a third term or outright appeal it. and happened in turkmenistan and uganda by legal means. all must retire at 70 and in the philippines, government employees have a mandatory retirement age of 65. but neither applies to presidents. brazil's president before bolsonaro, michel teamer was five until he held office. rodrigo duterte is 75. malaysia had a 92-year-old who stepped down in february. zimbabwe's prime minister robert mugabe was 93 when ousted from office. could that happen? 1967's age discrimination and employment act protected those

40 and over from age, based on discrimination, but only until you reach the age of 70. in 1986, the 70-year-old limit was removed. and, of course, as for the supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg recently passed on the bench at age 87, stephen breyer, on the bench is 82. no other western democracy allows its most powerful judges to serve to advanced age. in fact, thr32 states in the und states have mandatory retirement ages for judges from 70 to 90. and there are definitely old drivers on the road that need a renewal license test. do we need to set a sunset year? joining me is daniel bettermast. he co-authored an article, america has become a

gerotocrasy. i never heard that word before. what accounts for that, professor? >> hi, thanks for having me, i think the two major reasons are, number one, the elected officials reflect the largest voting bloc and that's, of course, the baby boomers and to a lesser degree the sagging generation. and now the incumbency are probably one of two major technical issues and i would add into that the fact in united states we don't culture, we talk about old age and what the role of people in politics should be as they get older. i think it's difficult, perhaps, to have a blanket maximum age law. because sometimes that would restrict people who maybe should be running. and i think that's important. but i do think we need to talk more seriously what it says about the culture and american politics that so much of our government who, for example, won't be around to deal with

effects of climate change. many of whom are also wealthy and don't suffer inequality. it's something that we need to discuss. >> i am sure post-show i will hear from my mother who, by the way, insists she is 65. and i'm not going to second guess her. and her argument would be probably, wait a minute, you get all of this wisdom, the age and experience factor. is that enough of a justification? >> i will also probably hear from my mother as well. i think that -- i think this is in fact important. i think there is an element of politics, people who are in the system, know the system well, people who have important decisions to make, i think that's absolutely right. i think the issue comes when obviously it's a structural concern when there are younger people locked out of positions particularly in the democratic

party. i think when there's a lot class of developmegerontocrats and to it and why young people are locked out of these leadership positions. >> well, is it a function of older voters, an older voting demographic, voting for their own? >> i think it must be partially a function of that. clearly, voters, and this is understandable want to elect people who not only look like them but understand their concerns fully. understand what they're going through. who want to help them but the problem is young people have been locked out to such a significant degree that we have a structure that's incredibly top heavy. almost like the late soviet union, where you had three leaders guy rather quickly because they were so old and younger than the people you mentioned. >> professor, thank you for your

expertise. >> thank you very much. >> let's see what you're saying via my social media. age limits? isn't that discrimination. i thing term limits would be let's. should television have a -- whoa, that is below the belt. come on now, i agree with you, bugs daddeo, i happen to believe that term limits would be a great year. 12 years, for new blood in the congress and senate. you know what the flip sides is, people watching this will say, bugs, michael, we have term limits, four years for the president, two years for congress, six years for the senate. if you don't like it, vote somebody out. i happen to agree with you. i think that's a step in the right direction. go to the website and answer the survey question this is interesting. we'll find out at the end. hour. should facebook and twitter be shielded from the liability for the way they police their

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many presidential cycle as i can recall, i get telephone calls on my sirius xm radio program from all across the country from listeners who share observations about candidate yard signs that they see in their neighborhood. and this year is no exception. >> going to go trump but i think it's turning a little. before the signs were 20-1, but starting to see the biden signs pop up here and there. >> i was up in western pennsylvania and i did not see one biden sign until the very last day i was there. i thought it was kind of fun to make it a game to see if i could find a biden sign. i finally found one. now down here in florida, especially along the waterways there are trump flotillas and signs all on the boats. >> i've long wondered whether yard signs moved the needle, are they effective advertising? and are they indicative of broad support a candidate enjoys in a particular area or just the

passion of an individual homeowner? in other words, do they simply reflect voter enthusiasm. before the debate, 90% of trump voters were enthusiastic about casting their ballot impaired to 79% of biden voters. after the debate, voter enthusiasm rose for both b but more so for biden. now 86% are more excited to vote for biden. how do they play? it turns out the issue has been study. in analysis published in 2016, researchers looked at the effects of lawn signs the on four different states and on local levels. joining me is one of the authors of that study. alexander coppic anal assistant professor at yale. professor what did you conclude? >> you start off in the section saying whether you see a lot of

signs not telling you about who's going to win in that area. it's probably correlated with that vote. if you see -- in my neighborhood, we see a laud of biden/harris signs, new haven, connecticut is likely to go pfo biden. but the real question is do they change any minds. we did a randomized experiment. we did that four places. we picked random precincts and we put about 40 or 50 lawn signs in those places. we didn't do it in any precincts in a particular election. then after the election, we looked at vote share, we compared the vote share where we put the signs versus where we didn't, we saw on average the place where we put signs were 1.7 percentage points higher. so it works a very small but detectable amount. >> so, do the lessons apply to high-profile racists -- put back on the screen, from the study,

the example that the professor and his colleagues used. i'm wondering if this -- you know, there you are. you've got mcauliffe, you've got sheehan and eichelberger and shin. but when you talk about the president, they have 100% name i.d., all four of them, trump, pence and kamala harris and joe biden do they apply to the big national race and local race? >> we don't know yet. we should do this experiment over and over again to find the answer to your question. if we compared what we knew from advertising on lawn signs, we would say we knew on average, ads on lower level elections have bigger effect. you mentioned the name recognition through which lawn signs might affect outcomes it could also be through a social

channel. you find out what your neighbors think which might change what you think. that's the one difference. yes, they have perfect name recognition, perhaps you don't know who likes who just yet. >> i live in the philadelphia suburbs, where i am and around me, it's a sea of biden/harris. i hope i'm going to fishing later today. and where i'm going fishing, it will be all trump signs. and yes, the polling data suggests that's a reflection of those two geographic pockets. so, i'm hearing from you that they can be effective. and they do have some predictive value. you get the final comment. >> so, please don't use lawn signs to predict elections. you would be laughed out of may silver's salon, if you used them that way. however, they are probably more correlated. you could do better with last year's vote share. >> thank you, professor. >> thank you. still to come, the pandemic has tripled depression and

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many of us know from experience that adulting is hard. amid a pandemic it's even harder. the cdc says anxiety among u.s. adults tripled compared to the last two years. and depression quad durupled. but how did teenagers adapt? many of them pulled from school from friends, and teaching online. to better understand how it affects teens a study funded by the weekly institution surveyed 1500 of them between may and july. and the results were surprising,

and in a good way. the percentage of teenagers experiencing depression is actually lower in 2020. 27% of teens in 2018 were depression, as opposed to 17% in 2020 during quarantined school sessions. and 20% during quarantine summer. joining me now to discuss is one of the authors of that study, jean twangy. he's a professor at san diego state university and the author of a book why kids are growing up more tolerant and less happy and completely prepared for adulthood. and what that means for the rest of us. doctor, people need to understand your prior work. give us the short version of what you found in "igen"? >> yeah, in "igen" i took a

careful look at how teens are now compared to ten years ago or 20 years ago. one thing we found you really see increase in depression and unhappiness, 2012 is when it started to shoot upward. more than likely, that's because teens started seeing their friends less in person. and started spending a lot more time on social media. and in front of a screen and also spent less time sleeping. that's really linked to depression and mental health. so that might have been one of the problems as well in that increase since 2012. >> so, i would have applied the lessons of igen to the pandemic and thought things have taken a worse turn for teens, but i would have been wrong. how so? >> yeah, i was wrong, too. i was very surprised to find that teens were actually doing all right. even slightly better in terms of depression.

during the pandemic, compared to a demographically similar sample from 2018. and we compared the two from the same surveys i used in "igen." i think there's a number of factors here, so, first, unlike adults, teens weren't quite as impacted by the economic obstructions. they weren't the ones losing jobs or worried about paying the rent. their parents were. but their parents in that age group were more likely to be more stable in their job situation as compared to younger people. the big element is teens were not having to get up at the crack of dawn to go to school. they stayed at home. they did online school. and they finally got to get the sleep that they need, based on their natural biological rhythm which usually pushes them to stay up later. >> dr. twenge, i know the data

suggests that families that eat together tend to have a healthier environment for child rearing not because of what's in the mashed potatoes but because it's indicative of a support network. what did you find relative, and we'll put this on the screen as well, to family time? >> that was another key thing. you know there was this silver lining in the spring and summer with a lot of stay-at-home orders. a lot of parents were working from home. teens weren't going to school. they weren't running around, going to activities. the pace of life slowed down, and we spent face-to-face time with our families. for teens, it's siblings, their parents. and the majority of teens in the survey said that they're family became closer during the pandemic. they said it was more likely for them to have dinner with their family. to go on walks and do other outdoor activities. that's, of course, very good for mental health. so that was a big piece of the

puzzle as well. >> so, less depression. more sleep. more time with family. and how about on the subject for which you are best known connectivity. i'll put it up on the screen while you explain. >> yeah. so, you know, this was another place where there was a little bit of a surprise. you'd think, during stay-at-home orders teenagers would immediately flock to instagram and other social media. actually, they spent a little less time on social media in spring and summer of 2020, compared to 2018. now, they did increase their use of tv and videos and more distracting things. but they're also texting a little less. they also, though, did skype and zoom and facesometime witime wi friends more. so they made smart choices in terms of electronic

communication with friends. they focused more of those realtime interactions like you do on facetime or zoom. and less time scrolling through social media in a passive way. and the majority of the teens told us they thought that helped them feel connected with their friends. and, remember, it's kind of a dress rehearsal for this their whole lives. they're already used to not spending time with their friends face-to-face. that was kind of already baked into the mental health statistics, so that's one piece as well. >> to quote the who, the kids are already, we hope. >> dr. twenge, thank you as always. >> thanks very much. >> dr. twenge's book, by the way is tremendous "igen." still to come, the final results of the question, have you voted yet at smerconish.com?

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responded to the survey question at smerconish.com this week. should facebook and twitter be shielded from liability for the way they police their platforms? hit me with the result. what do we got? interesting. wow, close to 20,000 votes cast and 74% say they should not be shielded. they are shielded today, right? they are shielded by section 230 and 74% of you say that shield

should be removed. i must say i'm quite surprised. catherine, what did we have in terms of social media? smerconish, the more you talk about the "new york post" article, the more you give it oxygen. it was most likely russian disinformation. stop being an unwitting idiot. jay hawk liberal, i think you missed the point of this week's program. the point of the program was not about the post and it was not about hunter biden, because this subject transcends this campaign. it's about the future of the internet. and what i painstakingly sought to do at the outset of the program was to explain that when the internet was created, a 26-word protection was given to the platforms that shielded them from liability in a way that doesn't extend to, say, cnn or a newspaper. and here is the president making this an idealogical issue. republicans say we've got to get rid of section 230.

my experience as a trial lawyer and having read in on this subject, tells me to tell them, be careful what you wish for. because if 230 goes away, then there will be more enforcement, i think, of speech codes by twitter, by facebook, and who will be impacted by that, perhaps, controversial speakers like donald trump. so that was the lesson today. in terms of giving that story oxygen, i give that story oxygen on radio only to dispute it. if you're a radio listener of mine, you would know that i've spoken of the story in detail. i don't think it does joe biden any favor to ignore it. i think george stephanopoulos should have asked him about it in the town hall. i also think that the origin of the story, at least to me, sounds like bullshit. who takes a laptop with their most personal information, drops it off and never comes back for it? that doesn't pass my smell test. but i would rather apply

critical thinking to stories like this, air it out. and i don't know what the facts are. the facts have not yet been generated by sources that i think we can all trust. so that's my personal view. probably told you more than you wanted to know on that subject. but today's lesson was all about how our future might look a heck of a lot different if 230 goes away and all of a sudden now we are treating media platforms more like we're treating a newspaper or a television outlet than we are a telephone line. we don't hold, you know, bell or sprint responsible for the speech, but we do hold other media outlets responsible. where should the internet fall? that's the issue. i'll see you next thursday as part of debate night coverage. wd ting customers can get our best smartphone deal. it's historic. that is historic. which means... i'm making history, right? yea, i don't know if i'd exactly sa-

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